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Nearly 2 Million Non-Citizen Hispanics Illegally Registered To Vote
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AlleyCat
2017-02-19 01:43:51 UTC
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A large number of non-citizen Hispanics, as many as 2 million, were
illegally registered to vote in the U.S., according to a nationwide poll.

The National Hispanic Survey provides additional evidence for use by anti-
voter fraud conservatives and bolsters an analysis by professors at Old
Dominion University who say non-citizens registered and voted in
potentially large numbers.

President Trump has announced he will appoint a task force on voter fraud
headed by Vice President Mike Pence. He says he wants the investigation to
focus on inaccurate voter registration rolls, which are maintained by the
states and the District of Columbia.

"It is a fact and you will not deny it, that there are massive numbers of
non-citizens in this country who are registered to vote," White House
adviser Stephen Miller told ABC News. "That is a scandal. We should stop
the presses."

The little-noticed Hispanic survey was conducted in June 2013 by
McLaughlin and Associates to gauge the opinions of U.S. resident Latinos
on a wide range of issues.

Inside the poll is a page devoted to voter profiles. Of the randomly
selected sample of 800 Hispanics, 56 percent, or 448, said they were non-
citizens, and of those, 13 percent said they were registered to vote. The
448 would presumably be a mix of illegal immigrants and non-citizens who
are in the U.S. legally, such as visa holders or permanent residents.

A 1996 federal law, and other statues, makes it a felony for non-citizens
to register. The poll did not ask if they voted.

But James Agresti, who directs the research nonprofit "Just Facts,"
applied the 13 percent figure to 2013 U.S. Census numbers for non-citizen
Hispanic adults. In 2013, the Census reported that 11.8 million non-
citizen Hispanic adults lived here, which would amount to 1.5 million
illegally registered Latinos.

Accounting for the margin of error based on the sample size of non-
citizens, Mr. Agresti calculated that the number of illegally registered
Hispanics could range from 1.0 million to 2.1 million.

"Contrary to the claims of many media outlets and so-called fact-checkers,
this nationally representative scientific poll confirms that a sizable
number of non-citizens in the U.S. are registered to vote," Mr. Agresti
said.

Another 8.3 million non-Hispanic non-citizen adults were living in the
U.S. in 2013, according to the Census.

As the nation's immigrant population, both legal and illegal, grows, the
question of non-citizens voting illegally has caught the attention of more
grass-roots conservative groups. Aliens tend to vote Democratic and have
the ability to sway a close election.

The focus intensified in 2014 when two professors at Old Dominion
University and one at George Mason University collaborated to produce
perhaps the first data-driven analysis of non-citizen voting, relying on
the biennial Cooperative Congressional Election Study (CCES),
headquartered at Harvard University, with polling by YouGov.

Relying on the CCES responses to citizenship questions, ODU team estimated
that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in the 2008 election. They
presented a range as low as 38,000 and as high at 2.8 million.

The CCES authors at Harvard, Amherst and YouGov reacted with outrage. They
said the small number of respondents among a sample of 38,000 people made
the answers meaningless. They picked at their numbers, declared them
unreliable and concluded that zero noncitizens voted.

Their rebuttal prompted the liberal media to proclaim the ODU study
"debunked" even though those professors stick by their work and have filed
counter-rebuttals.

The 2013 Hispanic Survey tends to confirm the ODU work and chief defender,
professor Jesse Richman. The Hispanic Survey's 13 percent registration
rate is right in line with what the CCES data indicates in multiple
elections.

Mr. Agresti said the ODU paper found that in 2008, 2010 and 2012 between
14.5 percent and 15.6 percent of self-declared non-citizen adults were
registered to vote.

In other words, the CCES and National Hispanic Survey, done with different
sample sizes, align.

Still, the liberal media declares the ODU work "debunked."

McLaughlin and Associates conducted the Hispanic poll for John Jordan, a
winery owner and Republican activist. California vineyards rely on Latino
farm workers.

The media's dismissal of voter fraud has not chased the White House from
the issue. Mr. Miller, the senior While House adviser, made the case
Sunday on "ABC's This Week," angering host George Stephanopoulos.

"An issue of voter fraud is something we're going to be looking at very
seriously and very hard," Mr. Miller said. "But the reality is, is that we
know for a fact, you have massive numbers of non-citizens registered to
vote in this country. Nobody disputes that."

He added, "The White House has provided enormous evidence with respect to
voter fraud, with respect to people being registered in more than one
state, dead people voting, non-citizens being registered to vote And as a
country, we should be aghast about the fact that you have people who have
no right to vote in this country, registered to vote, canceling out the
franchise of lawful citizens of this country."

Instead of focusing on the registration issue, an agitated Mr.
Stephanopoulos lashed out at Mr. Trump for claiming there were 3 million
to 5 million illegals voting Nov. 8 and that voters were bused in from
Massachusetts to vote in New Hampshire.

"You have provided zero evidence that the president's claim that he would
have won the general - the popular vote if 3 million to 5 million illegal
immigrants hadn't voted, zero evidence for either one of those claims,"
the host said.

In his Super Bowl interview with Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, Mr. Trump veered
away from the 5 million prediction and instead said he wants his task
force to focus on cleaning up registration.

"It has to do with the registration," he said "And when you look at the
registration and you see dead people that have voted, when you see people
that are registered in two states, that have voted in two states, when you
see other things, when you see illegals, people that are not citizens and
they are on the registration rolls."

"Look, Bill we can be babies, but you take a look at the registration, you
have illegals, you have dead people, you have this, it's really a bad
situation, it's really bad."

When Mr. O'Reilly reminded the president he has not presented data to show
that 3 million illegals voted, Mr. Trump said, "Forget that. Forget all
that. Just take a look at the registration and we're going to do it."
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STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.


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Dänk 42Ø
2017-02-19 08:25:28 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
A large number of non-citizen Hispanics, as many as 2 million, were
illegally registered to vote in the U.S., according to a nationwide poll.
Ever heard of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU)? If you
live in Las Vegas you definitely heard of them. Membership is required
to work in most casinos and related establishments, but citizenship is
not.

Like in Mexico, if you want a job you *HAVE* to join the relative union.
They give you a packet of papers to fill out, mostly in English,
including the voter registration form (pre-marked for Democrat). It
is not actually required to register to vote to join SEIU (unlike
Mexican unions), but they are not aware of that, so they fill out the
form and sign it, not realizing it is a criminal offense.

Most Mexican nationals are aware that they not allowed to vote in U.S
elections, and they don't, even if they were tricked into registering to
vote by SEIU. Now you have to prove that these Mexican nationals
actually voted. AFAIK, SEIU doesn't even require proof of a work permit
to join.

So the unsubstantiated number that 2 million non-citizens were
registered to vote does not mean that any or all of those 2 million
actually voted. Some may have: In Mexico, at least until a few
years ago, unions took attendance at polling stations. This is
highly illegal in the USA, but remember that these are people who
have fled an extremely corrupt country, where such behavior is the
norm. In Mexico, if you don't attend rallies for, and vote for,
the ruling party (PRI), you lose your job.

BTW, why does the number of illegal aliens who supposedly voted in
the 2016 election almost exactly match the number of popular votes
that So-Called President Trump lost by? It's not enough that he won
a comfortable Electoral College vote, his megalomaniacal ego won't
allow him to be satisfied until he's got the non-binding popular
vote as well.
DoD
2017-02-19 08:34:13 UTC
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Post by Dänk 42Ø
Post by AlleyCat
A large number of non-citizen Hispanics, as many as 2 million, were
illegally registered to vote in the U.S., according to a nationwide poll.
Ever heard of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU)?
Weren't they those jack booted thugs that beat up that black guy?
None of the Above
2017-02-20 08:30:09 UTC
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 08:25:28 +0000, Dänk 42Ø
Post by Dänk 42Ø
Post by AlleyCat
A large number of non-citizen Hispanics, as many as 2 million, were
illegally registered to vote in the U.S., according to a nationwide poll.
Ever heard of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU)? If you
live in Las Vegas you definitely heard of them. Membership is required
to work in most casinos and related establishments, but citizenship is
not.
Like in Mexico, if you want a job you *HAVE* to join the relative union.
They give you a packet of papers to fill out, mostly in English,
including the voter registration form (pre-marked for Democrat). It
is not actually required to register to vote to join SEIU (unlike
Mexican unions), but they are not aware of that, so they fill out the
form and sign it, not realizing it is a criminal offense.
Most Mexican nationals are aware that they not allowed to vote in U.S
elections, and they don't, even if they were tricked into registering to
vote by SEIU. Now you have to prove that these Mexican nationals
actually voted. AFAIK, SEIU doesn't even require proof of a work permit
to join.
A good first step would be to lock up the entire SEIU leadership.
PIBB
2017-02-19 21:25:14 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
When Mr. O'Reilly reminded the president he has not presented
data to show that 3 million illegals voted, Mr. Trump said,
"Forget that. Forget all that. Just take a look at the
registration and we're going to do it."
What about Melania Trump working illegally when she first came to the
US? Does that invalidate her green card?
Siri Cruise
2017-02-20 00:06:16 UTC
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Post by PIBB
Post by AlleyCat
When Mr. O'Reilly reminded the president he has not presented
data to show that 3 million illegals voted, Mr. Trump said,
"Forget that. Forget all that. Just take a look at the
registration and we're going to do it."
What about Melania Trump
When she becomes a public advocate on immigration, her past becomes a subject of
criticism.
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:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Free the Amos Yee one.
Yeah, too bad about your so-called life. Ha-ha.
AlleyCat
2017-02-20 01:22:58 UTC
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:25:14 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
Post by AlleyCat
When Mr. O'Reilly reminded the president he has not presented
data to show that 3 million illegals voted, Mr. Trump said,
"Forget that. Forget all that. Just take a look at the
registration and we're going to do it."
What about Melania Trump working illegally when she first came to the
US? Does that invalidate her green card?
SHOULD she be deported? No? Then shut the fuck up and quit being a fucking
child.

Yes? Then so too, should the 12-15 million Mexicans et al, that are here
illegally... riiiiight?

--

STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrat voters.

http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
Siri Cruise
2017-02-20 01:49:22 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:25:14 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
Post by AlleyCat
When Mr. O'Reilly reminded the president he has not presented
data to show that 3 million illegals voted, Mr. Trump said,
"Forget that. Forget all that. Just take a look at the
registration and we're going to do it."
What about Melania Trump working illegally when she first came to the
US? Does that invalidate her green card?
SHOULD she be deported? No? Then shut the fuck up and quit being a fucking
child.
If she lied during naturalisation, her citizenship could be revoked and then she
could be deported.

However until she becomes a public advocate on immigration, she is expected to
be off limits.

I could have gone after Michelle Obama for being a vegan terrorist (will no one
think of the bean sprouts), but not for Pollard's release.
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:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Free the Amos Yee one.
Yeah, too bad about your so-called life. Ha-ha.
M.I.Wakefield
2017-02-20 02:11:12 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
If she lied during naturalisation, her citizenship could be revoked and
then she could be deported.
Based on all of ICE's priorities, Melania's grandchildren will likely have
died of old age before an agent is handed her folder and told to look into
it.
Rudy Canoza
2017-02-20 02:32:24 UTC
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Post by M.I.Wakefield
Post by Siri Cruise
If she lied during naturalisation, her citizenship could be revoked
and then she could be deported.
Based on all of ICE's priorities, Melania's grandchildren will likely
have died of old age before an agent is handed her folder and told to
look into it.
Exactly right. It's not going to happen. It's not *ever* going to happen.
Siri Cruise
2017-02-20 03:02:15 UTC
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Post by M.I.Wakefield
Post by Siri Cruise
If she lied during naturalisation, her citizenship could be revoked and
then she could be deported.
Based on all of ICE's priorities, Melania's grandchildren will likely have
died of old age before an agent is handed her folder and told to look into
it.
It does seem to be reserved for Nazi war criminals.
--
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Free the Amos Yee one.
Yeah, too bad about your so-called life. Ha-ha.
PIBB
2017-02-20 09:06:04 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:25:14 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
Post by AlleyCat
When Mr. O'Reilly reminded the president he has not presented
data to show that 3 million illegals voted, Mr. Trump said,
"Forget that. Forget all that. Just take a look at the
registration and we're going to do it."
What about Melania Trump working illegally when she first came
to the US? Does that invalidate her green card?
SHOULD she be deported? No? Then shut the fuck up and quit being
a fucking child.
Of course Melania should be deported if she has worked in the US
illegally.
Post by AlleyCat
Yes? Then so too, should the 12-15 million Mexicans et al, that
are here illegally... riiiiight?
I believe that Donald is advocating exactly that. He should not
overlook Melania.
AlleyCat
2017-02-20 23:09:22 UTC
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 09:06:04 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
Post by AlleyCat
SHOULD she be deported? No? Then shut the fuck up and quit being
a fucking child.
Of course Melania should be deported if she has worked in the US
illegally.
Then, so too, should the millions of illegals taking money and jobs from
Americans... DEMOCRAT Americans, mostly.

Is Melania a citizen? You can't deport someone for once being "illegal".
Retroactive deportation is not a law. Being in the country while not a
citizen and no green card or visa, is, is.
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrat voters.

http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
PIBB
2017-02-20 23:17:25 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 09:06:04 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
Post by AlleyCat
SHOULD she be deported? No? Then shut the fuck up and quit
being a fucking child.
Of course Melania should be deported if she has worked in the
US illegally.
Then, so too, should the millions of illegals taking money and
jobs from Americans... DEMOCRAT Americans, mostly.
Is Melania a citizen?
It seems Melania was awarded citizenship erroneously based on
false statements on her application.

The first step is to rescind her citizenship.

The second step is to prosecute melania for giving false
information on her citizenship application.

The third step is prosecute Melania for working in the US
illegally.

The fourth step is to deport her.
Post by AlleyCat
You can't deport someone for once being "illegal". Retroactive
deportation is not a law. Being in the country while not a
citizen and no green card or visa, is, is.
AlleyCat
2017-02-20 23:27:15 UTC
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:17:25 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
It seems Melania was awarded citizenship erroneously based on
false statements on her application.
The first step is to rescind her citizenship.
The second step is to prosecute melania for giving false
information on her citizenship application.
The third step is prosecute Melania for working in the US
illegally.
The fourth step is to deport her.
That's so pathetic. You want to deport the wife of the United States'
President, because you're so small, pathetic and petty?

How many BILLIONS of dollars is Melania draining from our coffers? How
many Mexican men has SHE raped? How many has she murdered? What gang is
SHE in?

Gawd, you nerds argue the STUPIDEST things, JUST because you're so butt-
hurt about Trump being President and your idol Diva isn't.

Let it go... how is Donald Trump being President hurting you other than
emotionally? What have you lost? Anything? Get over it.

Gah!
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.


http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
None of the Above
2017-02-21 07:36:20 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:17:25 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
It seems Melania was awarded citizenship erroneously based on
false statements on her application.
The first step is to rescind her citizenship.
The second step is to prosecute melania for giving false
information on her citizenship application.
The third step is prosecute Melania for working in the US
illegally.
The fourth step is to deport her.
That's so pathetic. You want to deport the wife of the United States'
President, because you're so small, pathetic and petty?
How many BILLIONS of dollars is Melania draining from our coffers? How
many Mexican men has SHE raped? How many has she murdered? What gang is
SHE in?
Gawd, you nerds argue the STUPIDEST things, JUST because you're so butt-
hurt about Trump being President and your idol Diva isn't.
Let it go... how is Donald Trump being President hurting you other than
emotionally? What have you lost? Anything? Get over it.
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is above their
pay grade.
PIBB
2017-02-21 10:18:05 UTC
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Post by None of the Above
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:17:25 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
It seems Melania was awarded citizenship erroneously based on
false statements on her application.
The first step is to rescind her citizenship.
The second step is to prosecute melania for giving false
information on her citizenship application.
The third step is prosecute Melania for working in the US
illegally.
The fourth step is to deport her.
That's so pathetic. You want to deport the wife of the United
States' President, because you're so small, pathetic and petty?
How many BILLIONS of dollars is Melania draining from our
coffers? How many Mexican men has SHE raped? How many has she
murdered? What gang is SHE in?
Gawd, you nerds argue the STUPIDEST things, JUST because you're
so butt- hurt about Trump being President and your idol Diva
isn't.
Let it go... how is Donald Trump being President hurting you
other than emotionally? What have you lost? Anything? Get over
it.
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is above
their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the consequences
just like everyone else has to.

Reading the Lord's Prayer in public is too little too late.
AlleyCat
2017-02-21 10:25:35 UTC
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:18:05 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is above
their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the consequences
just like everyone else has to.
She did... she's a legal citizen, stupid.

Now... if you want to split hairs, then ALL illegals should be deported...
you know... the ones you bought their votes from?

--

STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.


http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
PIBB
2017-02-21 14:45:41 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:18:05 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is
above their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the
consequences just like everyone else has to.
She did... she's a legal citizen, stupid.
Melania is a citizen in law but did not get citizenship legally.
Her lies on the application about her history in the US means her
citizenship is open to rescindment.
Post by AlleyCat
Now... if you want to split hairs, then ALL illegals should be
deported... you know... the ones you bought their votes from?
Donals wanted to deport all illegals and said so very clearly. Has
he now gone back on his word? How unusual.
Post by AlleyCat
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with
Mexicans. Mexicans are against abortion, contraception,
pre-marital sex, mainly because they're mostly Catholic... oh,
and they HATE you. Am I leaving anything else out that you just
LOVE about them?
It's fine by me to deport illegal Mexicans
Post by AlleyCat
Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.
DOnald should deport anyone working or residieng in the US illegally.
PaxPerPoten
2017-02-22 02:02:05 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:18:05 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is above
their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the consequences
just like everyone else has to.
She did... she's a legal citizen, stupid.
And if she wasn't, Trump could execute order her that status. So what is
the Beef?
Post by AlleyCat
Now... if you want to split hairs, then ALL illegals should be deported...
you know... the ones you bought their votes from?
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?
Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.
http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
Rudy Canoza
2017-02-22 03:35:56 UTC
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Post by PaxPerPoten
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:18:05 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is above
their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the consequences
just like everyone else has to.
She did... she's a legal citizen, stupid.
And if she wasn't, Trump could execute order her that status.
Bullshit, you fucking shitworm. Congress has plenary power over
citizenship and naturalization. The president has no power whatever to
make anyone a citizen.

You don't know one fucking thing that's right.
None of the Above
2017-02-22 06:26:10 UTC
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Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by PaxPerPoten
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:18:05 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is above
their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the consequences
just like everyone else has to.
She did... she's a legal citizen, stupid.
And if she wasn't, Trump could execute order her that status.
Bullshit, you fucking shitworm. Congress has plenary power over
citizenship and naturalization. The president has no power whatever to
make anyone a citizen.
Two words: Presidential pardon.
Post by Rudy Canoza
You don't know one fucking thing that's right.
Tantrum much?
Rudy Canoza
2017-02-22 07:03:45 UTC
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Post by None of the Above
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by PaxPerPoten
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:18:05 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is above
their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the consequences
just like everyone else has to.
She did... she's a legal citizen, stupid.
And if she wasn't, Trump could execute order her that status.
Bullshit, you fucking shitworm. Congress has plenary power over
citizenship and naturalization. The president has no power whatever to
make anyone a citizen.
Two words: Presidential pardon.
Not the issue. The stupid HIV+ shitworm Poxed PeePee lied and said that
Trumpolini can make someone a citizen through an executive order.
That's a stupid bit of bullshit; he can't.
Post by None of the Above
Post by Rudy Canoza
You don't know one fucking thing that's right.
Tantrum much?
No, I just like kicking Poxed PeePee's flabby dough pimply ass, for
anything. The fucking convicted child molester - don't ask me how I
know, I won't reveal it - really doesn't know one fucking thing about
anything. It's quite obvious you don't, either.
PaxPerPoten
2017-02-23 08:29:09 UTC
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Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by PaxPerPoten
Post by AlleyCat
She did... she's a legal citizen, stupid.
And if she wasn't, Trump could execute order her that status.
Bullshit, you fucking shitworm. Congress has plenary power over
citizenship and naturalization. The president has no power whatever to
make anyone a citizen.
Yep...He does...Ask the many Russians and Germans that were made
Americans by edict.
Post by Rudy Canoza
You don't know one fucking thing that's right.
Well, I do know that you like diddling small animals and children.
I also know that you are a draft dodger sneaking around in our Military
groups. Are you looking for American secrets to sell to our enemies?
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
Rudy Canoza
2017-02-23 15:12:20 UTC
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She did... she's a legal citizen, stupid.
And if she wasn't, Trump could execute order her that status.
Bullshit, you fucking shitworm. Congress has plenary power over
citizenship and naturalization. The president has no power whatever to
make anyone a citizen.
Yep...He does...
Nope - he doesn't.
Post by PaxPerPoten
Ask the many Russians
*Congressional* edict, you fucking dog shit. Congress can make anyone a
citizen they wish. The president has no power to do so - zero.
PIBB
2017-02-22 08:59:26 UTC
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Post by PaxPerPoten
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:18:05 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is
above their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the
consequences just like everyone else has to.
She did... she's a legal citizen, stupid.
And if she wasn't, Trump could execute order her that status. So
what is the Beef?
Trump can not issue an order to make his wife a citizen. Do you
really think the POTUS has all the power of government placed into
one man?

The POTUS can award an honorary citizenship but that is only a title
and has no rights.
Post by PaxPerPoten
Post by AlleyCat
Now... if you want to split hairs, then ALL illegals should be
deported... you know... the ones you bought their votes from?
None of the Above
2017-02-22 06:22:53 UTC
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Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:17:25 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
It seems Melania was awarded citizenship erroneously based on
false statements on her application.
The first step is to rescind her citizenship.
The second step is to prosecute melania for giving false
information on her citizenship application.
The third step is prosecute Melania for working in the US
illegally.
The fourth step is to deport her.
That's so pathetic. You want to deport the wife of the United
States' President, because you're so small, pathetic and petty?
How many BILLIONS of dollars is Melania draining from our
coffers? How many Mexican men has SHE raped? How many has she
murdered? What gang is SHE in?
Gawd, you nerds argue the STUPIDEST things, JUST because you're
so butt- hurt about Trump being President and your idol Diva
isn't.
Let it go... how is Donald Trump being President hurting you
other than emotionally? What have you lost? Anything? Get over
it.
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is above
their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the consequences
just like everyone else has to.
Looks like the entire city government of Seattle is heading for
prison, then.
PIBB
2017-02-22 09:01:10 UTC
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Post by None of the Above
Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:17:25 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
It seems Melania was awarded citizenship erroneously based
on false statements on her application.
The first step is to rescind her citizenship.
The second step is to prosecute melania for giving false
information on her citizenship application.
The third step is prosecute Melania for working in the US
illegally.
The fourth step is to deport her.
That's so pathetic. You want to deport the wife of the United
States' President, because you're so small, pathetic and
petty?
How many BILLIONS of dollars is Melania draining from our
coffers? How many Mexican men has SHE raped? How many has she
murdered? What gang is SHE in?
Gawd, you nerds argue the STUPIDEST things, JUST because
you're so butt- hurt about Trump being President and your idol
Diva isn't.
Let it go... how is Donald Trump being President hurting you
other than emotionally? What have you lost? Anything? Get over
it.
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is above
their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the
consequences just like everyone else has to.
Looks like the entire city government of Seattle is heading for
prison, then.
I think Donald Trump has more skeletons in his cupboard than any
president ever had. The only thing that is preventing Trump
getting thown into jail is the lack of will but that is changing.
tRudy Crayola
2017-02-23 08:34:33 UTC
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Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:17:25 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
It seems Melania was awarded citizenship erroneously based
on false statements on her application.
The first step is to rescind her citizenship.
The second step is to prosecute melania for giving false
information on her citizenship application.
The third step is prosecute Melania for working in the US
illegally.
The fourth step is to deport her.
That's so pathetic. You want to deport the wife of the United
States' President, because you're so small, pathetic and
petty?
How many BILLIONS of dollars is Melania draining from our
coffers? How many Mexican men has SHE raped? How many has she
murdered? What gang is SHE in?
Gawd, you nerds argue the STUPIDEST things, JUST because
you're so butt- hurt about Trump being President and your idol
Diva isn't.
Let it go... how is Donald Trump being President hurting you
other than emotionally? What have you lost? Anything? Get over
it.
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is above
their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the
consequences just like everyone else has to.
Looks like the entire city government of Seattle is heading for
prison, then.
I think Donald Trump has more skeletons in his cupboard than any
president ever had. The only thing that is preventing Trump
getting thown into jail is the lack of will but that is changing.
Looks to me like you are more likely to end up being a Butt Monkey in
Club Fed for hate speech then Trump ever will be. Oh? That is right..You
and Jonathon Ball like that kind of action.
--
Rudy's Nut & Fruit farm- Sacramento
PIBB
2017-02-23 10:21:06 UTC
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Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:17:25 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
It seems Melania was awarded citizenship erroneously based
on false statements on her application.
The first step is to rescind her citizenship.
The second step is to prosecute melania for giving false
information on her citizenship application.
The third step is prosecute Melania for working in the US
illegally.
The fourth step is to deport her.
That's so pathetic. You want to deport the wife of the
United States' President, because you're so small, pathetic
and petty?
How many BILLIONS of dollars is Melania draining from our
coffers? How many Mexican men has SHE raped? How many has
she murdered? What gang is SHE in?
Gawd, you nerds argue the STUPIDEST things, JUST because
you're so butt- hurt about Trump being President and your
idol Diva isn't.
Let it go... how is Donald Trump being President hurting
you other than emotionally? What have you lost? Anything?
Get over it.
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is
above their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the
consequences just like everyone else has to.
Looks like the entire city government of Seattle is heading
for prison, then.
I think Donald Trump has more skeletons in his cupboard than
any president ever had. The only thing that is preventing
Trump getting thown into jail is the lack of will but that is
changing.
Looks to me like you are more likely to end up being a Butt
Monkey in Club Fed for hate speech then Trump ever will be. Oh?
That is right..You and Jonathon Ball like that kind of action.
Are you saying Donald Trump is above the law and that it will
never catch up with him?

Donald has made a career out of of illegal maneuvers. He's
managed to stay one step ahead of being prosecuted because no one
had the stamina to do so. Now that has changed.

Half the country doesn't like him. Those people who are smarter
than DOnald, richer than him and have nothing to hide are likely
to be the ones who go after him.
tRudy Crayola
2017-02-23 08:32:09 UTC
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Post by None of the Above
Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:17:25 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
It seems Melania was awarded citizenship erroneously based on
false statements on her application.
The first step is to rescind her citizenship.
The second step is to prosecute melania for giving false
information on her citizenship application.
The third step is prosecute Melania for working in the US
illegally.
The fourth step is to deport her.
That's so pathetic. You want to deport the wife of the United
States' President, because you're so small, pathetic and petty?
How many BILLIONS of dollars is Melania draining from our
coffers? How many Mexican men has SHE raped? How many has she
murdered? What gang is SHE in?
Gawd, you nerds argue the STUPIDEST things, JUST because you're
so butt- hurt about Trump being President and your idol Diva
isn't.
Let it go... how is Donald Trump being President hurting you
other than emotionally? What have you lost? Anything? Get over
it.
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is above
their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the consequences
just like everyone else has to.
Looks like the entire city government of Seattle is heading for
prison, then.
San Francisco , LA and Jonathon Balls Sacramento too.
--
Rudy's Nut & Fruit farm- Sacramento
PIBB
2017-02-23 10:22:26 UTC
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Post by tRudy Crayola
Post by None of the Above
Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:17:25 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
It seems Melania was awarded citizenship erroneously based
on false statements on her application.
The first step is to rescind her citizenship.
The second step is to prosecute melania for giving false
information on her citizenship application.
The third step is prosecute Melania for working in the US
illegally.
The fourth step is to deport her.
That's so pathetic. You want to deport the wife of the
United States' President, because you're so small, pathetic
and petty?
How many BILLIONS of dollars is Melania draining from our
coffers? How many Mexican men has SHE raped? How many has
she murdered? What gang is SHE in?
Gawd, you nerds argue the STUPIDEST things, JUST because
you're so butt- hurt about Trump being President and your
idol Diva isn't.
Let it go... how is Donald Trump being President hurting you
other than emotionally? What have you lost? Anything? Get
over it.
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is
above their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the
consequences just like everyone else has to.
Looks like the entire city government of Seattle is heading for
prison, then.
San Francisco , LA and Jonathon Balls Sacramento too.
Huh? What does that mean?
Rudy Canoza
2017-02-23 16:54:05 UTC
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Post by PIBB
Post by tRudy Crayola
Post by None of the Above
Post by PIBB
Post by None of the Above
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:17:25 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
It seems Melania was awarded citizenship erroneously based
on false statements on her application.
The first step is to rescind her citizenship.
The second step is to prosecute melania for giving false
information on her citizenship application.
The third step is prosecute Melania for working in the US
illegally.
The fourth step is to deport her.
That's so pathetic. You want to deport the wife of the
United States' President, because you're so small, pathetic
and petty?
How many BILLIONS of dollars is Melania draining from our
coffers? How many Mexican men has SHE raped? How many has
she murdered? What gang is SHE in?
Gawd, you nerds argue the STUPIDEST things, JUST because
you're so butt- hurt about Trump being President and your
idol Diva isn't.
Let it go... how is Donald Trump being President hurting you
other than emotionally? What have you lost? Anything? Get
over it.
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is
above their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the
consequences just like everyone else has to.
Looks like the entire city government of Seattle is heading for
prison, then.
San Francisco , LA and Jonathon Balls Sacramento too.
Huh? What does that mean?
It doesn't mean anything. spammy is an idiot suffering from AIDS
dementia. A couple of months back, I beat him to a bloody pulp in the
parking lot of the Jolly Kone in Bakersfield. I'm surprised he's in a
condition to be able to post; maybe he's using voice-to-text.
PIBB
2017-02-23 16:59:47 UTC
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Post by PIBB
Post by tRudy Crayola
Post by None of the Above
Post by PIBB
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 17:27:15 -0600, AlleyCat
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:17:25 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
It seems Melania was awarded citizenship erroneously
based on false statements on her application.
The first step is to rescind her citizenship.
The second step is to prosecute melania for giving false
information on her citizenship application.
The third step is prosecute Melania for working in the US
illegally.
The fourth step is to deport her.
That's so pathetic. You want to deport the wife of the
United States' President, because you're so small,
pathetic and petty?
How many BILLIONS of dollars is Melania draining from our
coffers? How many Mexican men has SHE raped? How many has
she murdered? What gang is SHE in?
Gawd, you nerds argue the STUPIDEST things, JUST because
you're so butt- hurt about Trump being President and your
idol Diva isn't.
Let it go... how is Donald Trump being President hurting
you other than emotionally? What have you lost? Anything?
Get over it.
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is
above their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the
consequences just like everyone else has to.
Looks like the entire city government of Seattle is heading
for prison, then.
San Francisco , LA and Jonathon Balls Sacramento too.
Huh? What does that mean?
It doesn't mean anything. spammy is an idiot suffering from
AIDS dementia. A couple of months back, I beat him to a bloody
pulp in the parking lot of the Jolly Kone in Bakersfield. I'm
surprised he's in a condition to be able to post; maybe he's
using voice-to-text.
Hmmm. I'm missing something. I see names and places but what do
they signify?
PaxPerPoten
2017-02-24 06:19:49 UTC
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Post by PIBB
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by PIBB
Post by tRudy Crayola
Post by None of the Above
Post by PIBB
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 17:27:15 -0600, AlleyCat
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:17:25 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
It seems Melania was awarded citizenship erroneously
based on false statements on her application.
The first step is to rescind her citizenship.
The second step is to prosecute melania for giving false
information on her citizenship application.
The third step is prosecute Melania for working in the US
illegally.
The fourth step is to deport her.
That's so pathetic. You want to deport the wife of the
United States' President, because you're so small,
pathetic and petty?
How many BILLIONS of dollars is Melania draining from our
coffers? How many Mexican men has SHE raped? How many has
she murdered? What gang is SHE in?
Gawd, you nerds argue the STUPIDEST things, JUST because
you're so butt- hurt about Trump being President and your
idol Diva isn't.
Let it go... how is Donald Trump being President hurting
you other than emotionally? What have you lost? Anything?
Get over it.
They are creatures of pure emotion; 'getting over it' is
above their pay grade.
The law is the law. Melania must obey it or face the
consequences just like everyone else has to.
Looks like the entire city government of Seattle is heading
for prison, then.
San Francisco , LA and Jonathon Balls Sacramento too.
Huh? What does that mean?
It doesn't mean anything. spammy is an idiot suffering from
AIDS dementia. A couple of months back, I beat him to a bloody
pulp in the parking lot of the Jolly Kone in Bakersfield. I'm
surprised he's in a condition to be able to post; maybe he's
using voice-to-text.
Hmmm. I'm missing something. I see names and places but what do
they signify?
All you missed was more Meth fed hallucinations while Jonathon Ball aka
Rudy Canoza was in the Detox center.
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
PIBB
2017-02-21 10:16:59 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:17:25 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
It seems Melania was awarded citizenship erroneously based on
false statements on her application.
The first step is to rescind her citizenship.
The second step is to prosecute melania for giving false
information on her citizenship application.
The third step is prosecute Melania for working in the US
illegally.
The fourth step is to deport her.
That's so pathetic. You want to deport the wife of the United
States' President, because you're so small, pathetic and petty?
No one is above the law. That includes Melania Trump. If she has
broken the law then she should be punished.

The same goes for anybody - even if they are the President as Bill
Clinton found out when he was impeached. The law is the law and
it is bigger than any single person.
Post by AlleyCat
How many BILLIONS of dollars is Melania draining from our
coffers? How many Mexican men has SHE raped? How many has she
murdered? What gang is SHE in?
Melania's beahviour after falsely recieving a green card is not
under discussion. The question is what punishments should be made
because she broke immigration law?

This is not a question of her character or beauty. It is a
question of a wealthy person abiding by the same laws as everyone
else.
Post by AlleyCat
Gawd, you nerds argue the STUPIDEST things, JUST because you're
so butt- hurt about Trump being President and your idol Diva
isn't.
Let it go... how is Donald Trump being President hurting you
other than emotionally? What have you lost? Anything? Get over
it.
For the law to be fair it has to avoid sympathizing with some
criminals just because some people like her. Would you have made
the same comments if Melania was an illegal from Iraq or Mexico
rather than Slovenia?
Tony944
2017-02-20 01:54:52 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
When Mr. O'Reilly reminded the president he has not presented
data to show that 3 million illegals voted, Mr. Trump said,
"Forget that. Forget all that. Just take a look at the
registration and we're going to do it."
What about Melania Trump working illegally when she first came to the
US? Does that invalidate her green card?

Very interesting but do you think comparing Cherry and Orange is the same???
PIBB
2017-02-20 09:07:34 UTC
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Post by PIBB
Post by AlleyCat
When Mr. O'Reilly reminded the president he has not presented
data to show that 3 million illegals voted, Mr. Trump said,
"Forget that. Forget all that. Just take a look at the
registration and we're going to do it."
What about Melania Trump working illegally when she first came
to the US? Does that invalidate her green card?
Very interesting but do you think comparing Cherry and Orange is the same???
You mean Melania is allowed to get away with it because she married
an influenctial American. How deos that change the facts of what she
did?
Tony944
2017-02-20 18:13:23 UTC
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Post by PIBB
Post by AlleyCat
When Mr. O'Reilly reminded the president he has not presented
data to show that 3 million illegals voted, Mr. Trump said,
"Forget that. Forget all that. Just take a look at the
registration and we're going to do it."
What about Melania Trump working illegally when she first came
to the US? Does that invalidate her green card?
Very interesting but do you think comparing Cherry and Orange is the same???
You mean Melania is allowed to get away with it because she married
an influenctial American. How deos that change the facts of what she
did?

Interesting scinario: how can one compare individual out foreign country
compare to thousands people out of another country???
How many "Slovenians" are in this country compare to other nationality?
First-Post
2017-02-20 18:47:06 UTC
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Post by PIBB
Post by AlleyCat
When Mr. O'Reilly reminded the president he has not presented
data to show that 3 million illegals voted, Mr. Trump said,
"Forget that. Forget all that. Just take a look at the
registration and we're going to do it."
What about Melania Trump working illegally when she first came
to the US? Does that invalidate her green card?
Very interesting but do you think comparing Cherry and Orange is the same???
You mean Melania is allowed to get away with it because she married
an influenctial American. How deos that change the facts of what she
did?
Interesting scinario: how can one compare individual out foreign country
compare to thousands people out of another country???
How many "Slovenians" are in this country compare to other nationality?
Mrs. Trump's situation is not that uncommon. At the time in question,
a mere 7 weeks before getting all of the paperwork in order, she was
not married to anyone, not even dating Trump and was no different from
any other immigrant.

The government at the time ruled that there was no malicious or
criminal intent on her part and saw no reason to prosecute her for
anything. And once she became a full fledged US citizen, it put an
end to the issue as you cannot deport a US citizen. Apparently your
idiots are indeed just too damned stupid to understand basic law.

You whiney little bitches that are trying to compare her to some low
life border jumping illegal who has no intention of ever becoming a US
citizen or assimilating are simply pathetic.
You may as well be comparing someone ticketed for running a stop sign
to Ted Bundy and crying that they are equivalent.

Good god you losers are desperate.
PIBB
2017-02-20 19:20:38 UTC
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 10:13:23 -0800, "Tony944"
Post by PIBB
Post by PIBB
Post by AlleyCat
When Mr. O'Reilly reminded the president he has not presented
data to show that 3 million illegals voted, Mr. Trump said,
"Forget that. Forget all that. Just take a look at the
registration and we're going to do it."
What about Melania Trump working illegally when she first came
to the US? Does that invalidate her green card?
Very interesting but do you think comparing Cherry and Orange is the same???
You mean Melania is allowed to get away with it because she
married an influenctial American. How deos that change the
facts of what she did?
Interesting scinario: how can one compare individual out foreign
country compare to thousands people out of another country???
How many "Slovenians" are in this country compare to other
nationality?
Mrs. Trump's situation is not that uncommon. At the time in
question, a mere 7 weeks before getting all of the paperwork in
order, she was not married to anyone, not even dating Trump and
was no different from any other immigrant.
The duration of her period of illegal work is a matter of dispute.
According to Melania herself she never worked illegally, so we can
hardly rely on her version of events as we know them to be
untrue.... "I correctly went through the legal process when
arriving in the USA"

Fox News, which is very
sympathetic to her says she had 10 jobs in that time but the real
number may not be known.
The government at the time ruled that there was no malicious or
criminal intent on her part and saw no reason to prosecute her
for anything.
You may impute that from Melania being awarded a green card but
there is no such assessment as you mention especially as Melania
was flasely claiming not to have worked illegally at all.
And once she became a full fledged US citizen, it put an end to
the issue as you cannot deport a US citizen. Apparently your
idiots are indeed just too damned stupid to understand basic
law.
Your intemperate language does not change the real situation under
the law no matter how strongly you insist on the opposite account.

"Foreigners are not allowed to use a visitor visa to work for
pay in the U.S. for American companies. Doing so would violate
the terms of that visa and could prohibit a foreigner from
later changing his or her immigration status in the U.S. or bar
the foreigner from the United States again without special
permission to come back."
You whiney little bitches that are trying to compare her to some
low life border jumping illegal who has no intention of ever
becoming a US citizen or assimilating are simply pathetic. You
may as well be comparing someone ticketed for running a stop
sign to Ted Bundy and crying that they are equivalent.
Good god you losers are desperate.
The bottoms line is Melanija Knavs came to the US and worked
illegally, she lied about that when she applied for a green card.
This is definitely something worth looking into because it doesn't
involve going as far back as Donald did with Obama's birth
certificate. The law is the law and illegal entry is not covered
by the statute of limitations. Her first steps would be to
release her immigration reocrds
Siri Cruise
2017-02-20 19:07:14 UTC
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Post by PIBB
You mean Melania is allowed to get away with it because she married
an influenctial American. How deos that change the facts of what she
did?
She is a US citizen and cannot be deported. If she did violate a law (except
murder) in the distant past, she can no longer be prosecuted. The only way to
get at her is prove she lied during naturalisation; then her citizenship can be
revoked. But that is rarely done, and not for something as trivial as this. It
takes Nazi war criminals levels of offence to lose naturalised citizenship.
(Native citizenshp can never be revoked.)
Post by PIBB
Interesting scinario: how can one compare individual out foreign country
compare to thousands people out of another country???
How many "Slovenians" are in this country compare to other nationality?
The difference is she went through the steps: visa, visa with work permit,
permanent residence, citizenship. Perhaps she might have been caught doing
something wrong way back when, but it's now too way back when to change her
current status.

It costs money to get a wee child to adulthood. Just consider the cost of
schooling. The investment is expected to pay back with a profit when the adult
pays taxes. To deport people we've invested in just before the pay off is
stupid. The stupidity of racism. I don't see a reason not give those 'dreamers'
a chance at permanent residence. They can naturalise if they want or remain
Mexicans.
--
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Free the Amos Yee one.
Yeah, too bad about your so-called life. Ha-ha.
PIBB
2017-02-20 19:23:21 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by PIBB
You mean Melania is allowed to get away with it because she
married an influenctial American. How deos that change the
facts of what she did?
She is a US citizen
Melania's citizenship is questioned if she lied under oath to
obtain it. If she does not have valid citizenship because it was
issued in error then she can be deported.
Post by Siri Cruise
and cannot be deported. If she did violate a
law (except murder) in the distant past, she can no longer be
prosecuted. The only way to get at her is prove she lied during
naturalisation;
Documents show Melania has been lying and that she actually worked
in at least 10 jobs before getting a green card. QED.
Post by Siri Cruise
then her citizenship can be revoked. But that is
rarely done, and not for something as trivial as this. It takes
Nazi war criminals levels of offence to lose naturalised
citizenship. (Native citizenshp can never be revoked.)
Post by PIBB
Interesting scinario: how can one compare individual out
foreign country compare to thousands people out of another
country??? How many "Slovenians" are in this country compare to
other nationality?
The difference is she went through the steps: visa, visa with
work permit, permanent residence, citizenship. Perhaps she might
have been caught doing something wrong way back when, but it's
now too way back when to change her current status.
It costs money to get a wee child to adulthood. Just consider
the cost of schooling. The investment is expected to pay back
with a profit when the adult pays taxes. To deport people we've
invested in just before the pay off is stupid. The stupidity of
racism. I don't see a reason not give those 'dreamers' a chance
at permanent residence. They can naturalise if they want or
remain Mexicans.
AlleyCat
2017-02-20 23:14:04 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:23:21 GMT, PIBB says...
Post by PIBB
Post by Siri Cruise
She is a US citizen
Melania's citizenship is questioned if she lied under oath to
obtain it. If she does not have valid citizenship because it was
issued in error then she can be deported.
Gawd, you nerds argue the STUPIDEST things, JUST because you're so butt-
hurt about Trump being President and your idol Diva isn't.

Let it go... how is Donald Trump being President hurting you other than
emotionally? What have you lost? Anything? Get over it.

Gah!
Siri Cruise
2017-02-21 01:42:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by PIBB
Post by Siri Cruise
She is a US citizen
Melania's citizenship is questioned if she lied under oath to
obtain it. If she does not have valid citizenship because it was
issued in error then she can be deported.
Assuming she did lie. And assuming the federal government had some motivation to
go after her. The alleged violations are minor, she has been a law abiding tax
paying citizen since, and she didn't flee to the US from to escape prosecution
for crimes against humanity.

Her husband is a hypocritical, racist asswipe on immigration, but he's a
separate person. It's not cricket to attack an innocent party just because you
can't get at your real target.

As far as I know Tiffany and Barron have also not been public advocates.

His other three children are using the presidency to enrich themselves. And they
look like douches. Go after the ones that have made themselves targets like
their daddy.
--
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Free the Amos Yee one.
Yeah, too bad about your so-called life. Ha-ha.
PIBB
2017-02-21 10:25:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by PIBB
Post by Siri Cruise
She is a US citizen
Melania's citizenship is questioned if she lied under oath to
obtain it. If she does not have valid citizenship because it
was issued in error then she can be deported.
Assuming she did lie. And assuming the federal government had
some motivation to go after her. The alleged violations are
minor, she has been a law abiding tax paying citizen since, and
she didn't flee to the US from to escape prosecution for crimes
against humanity.
We do not make these exceptions for illegal Somalis or Mexicans.
We should not make exceptions for illegal Slovenians.
Post by Siri Cruise
Her husband is a hypocritical, racist asswipe on immigration,
but he's a separate person. It's not cricket to attack an
innocent party just because you can't get at your real target.
DOnald didn't have anything to do with Melania's illegal
application for citizenship and has nothing to do with this. This
has only come to be an issue on account of discussions about
illgeal immigrants and applying the rules fairly to each of them
with out favor or prejudice.
Post by Siri Cruise
As far as I know Tiffany and Barron have also not been public
advocates.
His other three children are using the presidency to enrich
themselves. And they look like douches. Go after the ones that
have made themselves targets like their daddy.
The Trump's family moral compass is so badly out of alignment that
it won't be long before one of them enagages in financial
activities which overtly conflicts with the interest of good
government.

I fully expect Donald, who has 4095 lawsuits to his name, to use
clever lawyers to fool the courts. I'm not sure he will be so
lucky this time.
AlleyCat
2017-02-20 23:11:33 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:07:14 -0800, Siri Cruise says...
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by PIBB
You mean Melania is allowed to get away with it because she married
an influenctial American. How deos that change the facts of what she
did?
She is a US citizen and cannot be deported. If she did violate a law (except
murder) in the distant past, she can no longer be prosecuted.
Oops... sorry... didn't read this before responding to an earlier post.

Apologies.
Rudy Canoza
2017-02-20 00:10:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
A large number of non-citizen Hispanics, as many as 2 million, were
illegally registered to vote in the U.S., according to a nationwide poll.
"according to a nationwide poll" - LOL! What bullshit! Public opinion
polls might show that some people *believe* there are many illegally
registered voters, but they do not and *cannot* prove it.
Post by AlleyCat
"It is a fact and you will not deny it, that there are massive numbers of
non-citizens in this country who are registered to vote," White House
adviser Stephen Miller told ABC News. "That is a scandal. We should stop
the presses."
It's not a fact, and we deny that it is. Miller needs to shut his mouth.
Post by AlleyCat
When Mr. O'Reilly reminded the president he has not presented data to show
that 3 million illegals voted, Mr. Trump said, "Forget that. Forget all
that. Just take a look at the registration and we're going to do it."
Trumpolini hasn't shown a *single* illegally registered voter, except
for three of his own staff of shills.
AlleyCat
2017-02-20 23:22:25 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 10:55:24 -0800 (PST), Matt says...
Post by AlleyCat
A large number of non-citizen Hispanics, as many as 2 million, were
illegally registered to vote in the U.S., according to a nationwide poll.
<chuckle>
Now they poll illegal aliens to ask if they voted?
Yes.
That's funny. Fake news, of course
Gawd, you're a fucking idiot.

I guess you missed THIS, huh idiot? It was little-noticed, because the
lamestream media won't report topics like this. Omission is the same as a
lie.


The little-noticed Hispanic survey was conducted in June 2013 by
McLaughlin and Associates to gauge the opinions of U.S. resident Latinos
on a wide range of issues.

Inside the poll is a page devoted to voter profiles. Of the randomly
selected sample of 800 Hispanics, 56 percent, or 448, said they were non-
citizens, and of those, 13 percent said they were registered to vote. The
448 would presumably be a mix of illegal immigrants and non-citizens who
are in the U.S. legally, such as visa holders or permanent residents.

But James Agresti, who directs the research nonprofit "Just Facts,"
applied the 13 percent figure to 2013 U.S. Census numbers for non-citizen
Hispanic adults. In 2013, the Census reported that 11.8 million non-
citizen Hispanic adults lived here, which would amount to 1.5 million
illegally registered Latinos.

Accounting for the margin of error based on the sample size of non-
citizens, Mr. Agresti calculated that the number of illegally registered
Hispanics could range from 1.0 million to 2.1 million.

"Contrary to the claims of many media outlets and so-called fact-checkers,
this nationally representative scientific poll confirms that a sizable
number of non-citizens in the U.S. are registered to vote," Mr. Agresti
said.

Another 8.3 million non-Hispanic non-citizen adults were living in the
U.S. in 2013, according to the Census.

As the nation's immigrant population, both legal and illegal, grows, the
question of non-citizens voting illegally has caught the attention of more
grass-roots conservative groups. Aliens tend to vote Democratic and have
the ability to sway a close election.

The focus intensified in 2014 when two professors at Old Dominion
University and one at George Mason University collaborated to produce
perhaps the first data-driven analysis of non-citizen voting, relying on
the biennial Cooperative Congressional Election Study (CCES),
headquartered at Harvard University, with polling by YouGov.

Relying on the CCES responses to citizenship questions, ODU team estimated
that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in the 2008 election. They
presented a range as low as 38,000 and as high at 2.8 million.

The CCES authors at Harvard, Amherst and YouGov reacted with outrage. They
said the small number of respondents among a sample of 38,000 people made
the answers meaningless. They picked at their numbers, declared them
unreliable and concluded that zero noncitizens voted.

Their rebuttal prompted the liberal media to proclaim the ODU study
"debunked" even though those professors stick by their work and have filed
counter-rebuttals.

The 2013 Hispanic Survey tends to confirm the ODU work and chief defender,
professor Jesse Richman. The Hispanic Survey's 13 percent registration
rate is right in line with what the CCES data indicates in multiple
elections.

Mr. Agresti said the ODU paper found that in 2008, 2010 and 2012 between
14.5 percent and 15.6 percent of self-declared non-citizen adults were
registered to vote.

In other words, the CCES and National Hispanic Survey, done with different
sample sizes, align.

Still, the liberal media declares the ODU work "debunked."

McLaughlin and Associates conducted the Hispanic poll for John Jordan, a
winery owner and Republican activist. California vineyards rely on Latino
farm workers.

The media's dismissal of voter fraud has not chased the White House from
the issue. Mr. Miller, the senior While House adviser, made the case
Sunday on "ABC's This Week," angering host George Stephanopoulos.

"An issue of voter fraud is something we're going to be looking at very
seriously and very hard," Mr. Miller said. "But the reality is, is that we
know for a fact, you have massive numbers of non-citizens registered to
vote in this country. Nobody disputes that."

He added, "The White House has provided enormous evidence with respect to
voter fraud, with respect to people being registered in more than one
state, dead people voting, non-citizens being registered to vote And as a
country, we should be aghast about the fact that you have people who have
no right to vote in this country, registered to vote, canceling out the
franchise of lawful citizens of this country."

Instead of focusing on the registration issue, an agitated Mr.
Stephanopoulos lashed out at Mr. Trump for claiming there were 3 million
to 5 million illegals voting Nov. 8 and that voters were bused in from
Massachusetts to vote in New Hampshire.

"You have provided zero evidence that the president's claim that he would
have won the general - the popular vote if 3 million to 5 million illegal
immigrants hadn't voted, zero evidence for either one of those claims,"
the host said.

In his Super Bowl interview with Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, Mr. Trump veered
away from the 5 million prediction and instead said he wants his task
force to focus on cleaning up registration.

"It has to do with the registration," he said "And when you look at the
registration and you see dead people that have voted, when you see people
that are registered in two states, that have voted in two states, when you
see other things, when you see illegals, people that are not citizens and
they are on the registration rolls."

"Look, Bill we can be babies, but you take a look at the registration, you
have illegals, you have dead people, you have this, it's really a bad
situation, it's really bad."

When Mr. O'Reilly reminded the president he has not presented data to show
that 3 million illegals voted, Mr. Trump said, "Forget that. Forget all
that. Just take a look at the registration and we're going to do it."
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.


http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
AlleyCat
2017-02-21 00:09:19 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 15:31:11 -0800 (PST), Matt says...
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 10:55:24 -0800 (PST), Matt says...
Post by AlleyCat
A large number of non-citizen Hispanics, as many as 2 million, were
illegally registered to vote in the U.S., according to a nationwide poll.
<chuckle>
Now they poll illegal aliens to ask if they registered to vote?
Yes.
Hey, moron? Get help. You are too stupid to breathe.
[chuckle]

That all you have, snowflake?

*****

The little-noticed Hispanic survey was conducted in June 2013 by
McLaughlin and Associates to gauge the opinions of U.S. resident Latinos
on a wide range of issues.

Inside the poll is a page devoted to voter profiles. Of the randomly
selected sample of 800 Hispanics, 56 percent, or 448, said they were non-
citizens, and of those, 13 percent said they were registered to vote. The
448 would presumably be a mix of illegal immigrants and non-citizens who
are in the U.S. legally, such as visa holders or permanent residents.

But James Agresti, who directs the research nonprofit "Just Facts,"
applied the 13 percent figure to 2013 U.S. Census numbers for non-citizen
Hispanic adults. In 2013, the Census reported that 11.8 million non-
citizen Hispanic adults lived here, which would amount to 1.5 million
illegally registered Latinos.

Accounting for the margin of error based on the sample size of non-
citizens, Mr. Agresti calculated that the number of illegally registered
Hispanics could range from 1.0 million to 2.1 million.

"Contrary to the claims of many media outlets and so-called fact-checkers,
this nationally representative scientific poll confirms that a sizable
number of non-citizens in the U.S. are registered to vote," Mr. Agresti
said.

Another 8.3 million non-Hispanic non-citizen adults were living in the
U.S. in 2013, according to the Census.

As the nation's immigrant population, both legal and illegal, grows, the
question of non-citizens voting illegally has caught the attention of more
grass-roots conservative groups. Aliens tend to vote Democratic and have
the ability to sway a close election.

The focus intensified in 2014 when two professors at Old Dominion
University and one at George Mason University collaborated to produce
perhaps the first data-driven analysis of non-citizen voting, relying on
the biennial Cooperative Congressional Election Study (CCES),
headquartered at Harvard University, with polling by YouGov.

Relying on the CCES responses to citizenship questions, ODU team estimated
that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in the 2008 election. They
presented a range as low as 38,000 and as high at 2.8 million.

The CCES authors at Harvard, Amherst and YouGov reacted with outrage. They
said the small number of respondents among a sample of 38,000 people made
the answers meaningless. They picked at their numbers, declared them
unreliable and concluded that zero noncitizens voted.

Their rebuttal prompted the liberal media to proclaim the ODU study
"debunked" even though those professors stick by their work and have filed
counter-rebuttals.

The 2013 Hispanic Survey tends to confirm the ODU work and chief defender,
professor Jesse Richman. The Hispanic Survey's 13 percent registration
rate is right in line with what the CCES data indicates in multiple
elections.

Mr. Agresti said the ODU paper found that in 2008, 2010 and 2012 between
14.5 percent and 15.6 percent of self-declared non-citizen adults were
registered to vote.

In other words, the CCES and National Hispanic Survey, done with different
sample sizes, align.

Still, the liberal media declares the ODU work "debunked."

McLaughlin and Associates conducted the Hispanic poll for John Jordan, a
winery owner and Republican activist. California vineyards rely on Latino
farm workers.

The media's dismissal of voter fraud has not chased the White House from
the issue. Mr. Miller, the senior While House adviser, made the case
Sunday on "ABC's This Week," angering host George Stephanopoulos.

"An issue of voter fraud is something we're going to be looking at very
seriously and very hard," Mr. Miller said. "But the reality is, is that we
know for a fact, you have massive numbers of non-citizens registered to
vote in this country. Nobody disputes that."

He added, "The White House has provided enormous evidence with respect to
voter fraud, with respect to people being registered in more than one
state, dead people voting, non-citizens being registered to vote And as a
country, we should be aghast about the fact that you have people who have
no right to vote in this country, registered to vote, canceling out the
franchise of lawful citizens of this country."

Instead of focusing on the registration issue, an agitated Mr.
Stephanopoulos lashed out at Mr. Trump for claiming there were 3 million
to 5 million illegals voting Nov. 8 and that voters were bused in from
Massachusetts to vote in New Hampshire.

"You have provided zero evidence that the president's claim that he would
have won the general - the popular vote if 3 million to 5 million illegal
immigrants hadn't voted, zero evidence for either one of those claims,"
the host said.

In his Super Bowl interview with Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, Mr. Trump veered
away from the 5 million prediction and instead said he wants his task
force to focus on cleaning up registration.

"It has to do with the registration," he said "And when you look at the
registration and you see dead people that have voted, when you see people
that are registered in two states, that have voted in two states, when you
see other things, when you see illegals, people that are not citizens and
they are on the registration rolls."

"Look, Bill we can be babies, but you take a look at the registration, you
have illegals, you have dead people, you have this, it's really a bad
situation, it's really bad."

When Mr. O'Reilly reminded the president he has not presented data to show
that 3 million illegals voted, Mr. Trump said, "Forget that. Forget all
that. Just take a look at the registration and we're going to do it."
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.


http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
AlleyCat
2017-02-21 03:24:41 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:03:32 -0800 (PST), Matt says...
Post by AlleyCat
Hey, moron? Get help. You are too stupid to breathe.
[chuckle]
That all you have, snowflake?
What we have, little Trumpflake, is that you and your ilk are unhinged.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Uhhh... "unhinged" about WHAT? No ma'am... we're enjoying this to the
hilt. YOU and your ilk, the snowflake cupcake buttercup lieberals, are the
ones who have become unhinged.

Shit, some of you took Hillary losing so hard, you quit Usenet, rather
than face what we're so enjoying, at YOUR expense.
Much like your Russian Mole you worship.
[chuckle]

I worship no one (and didn't vote for Trump in the primaries), but I'd
rather have voted for HIM, than the greedy old, rich, White, sick,
decrepit liar YOU and your fellow snowflakes cried about.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!!

SHE'S the Russian mole... giving OUR Uranium away TO the Russians. You're
like those idiots who want gun control, because they're too embarrassed by
who actually DOES all the killing with guns... DEMOCRATS.

Now, it's your turn to accuse Trump of being a Russian whatever, because
HILLARY is the one who's sucking Russian dick and making money from the
sale of Uranium, and getting Russian contributors to her personal bank
account, hers' and Bill's Foundation.

[chuckle]

Let's get back on topic, shall we, snowflake?

Funny, how you snipped ALL that made you look like the idiot snowflake
that you are.
Post by AlleyCat
Now they poll illegal aliens to ask if they registered to vote?
Yes.
The little-noticed Hispanic survey was conducted in June 2013 by
McLaughlin and Associates to gauge the opinions of U.S. resident Latinos
on a wide range of issues.

Inside the poll is a page devoted to voter profiles. Of the randomly
selected sample of 800 Hispanics, 56 percent, or 448, said they were non-
citizens, and of those, 13 percent said they were registered to vote. The
448 would presumably be a mix of illegal immigrants and non-citizens who
are in the U.S. legally, such as visa holders or permanent residents.

But James Agresti, who directs the research nonprofit "Just Facts,"
applied the 13 percent figure to 2013 U.S. Census numbers for non-citizen
Hispanic adults. In 2013, the Census reported that 11.8 million non-
citizen Hispanic adults lived here, which would amount to 1.5 million
illegally registered Latinos.

Accounting for the margin of error based on the sample size of non-
citizens, Mr. Agresti calculated that the number of illegally registered
Hispanics could range from 1.0 million to 2.1 million.

"Contrary to the claims of many media outlets and so-called fact-checkers,
this nationally representative scientific poll confirms that a sizable
number of non-citizens in the U.S. are registered to vote," Mr. Agresti
said.

Another 8.3 million non-Hispanic non-citizen adults were living in the
U.S. in 2013, according to the Census.

As the nation's immigrant population, both legal and illegal, grows, the
question of non-citizens voting illegally has caught the attention of more
grass-roots conservative groups. Aliens tend to vote Democratic and have
the ability to sway a close election.

The focus intensified in 2014 when two professors at Old Dominion
University and one at George Mason University collaborated to produce
perhaps the first data-driven analysis of non-citizen voting, relying on
the biennial Cooperative Congressional Election Study (CCES),
headquartered at Harvard University, with polling by YouGov.

Relying on the CCES responses to citizenship questions, ODU team estimated
that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in the 2008 election. They
presented a range as low as 38,000 and as high at 2.8 million.

The CCES authors at Harvard, Amherst and YouGov reacted with outrage. They
said the small number of respondents among a sample of 38,000 people made
the answers meaningless. They picked at their numbers, declared them
unreliable and concluded that zero noncitizens voted.

Their rebuttal prompted the liberal media to proclaim the ODU study
"debunked" even though those professors stick by their work and have filed
counter-rebuttals.

The 2013 Hispanic Survey tends to confirm the ODU work and chief defender,
professor Jesse Richman. The Hispanic Survey's 13 percent registration
rate is right in line with what the CCES data indicates in multiple
elections.

Mr. Agresti said the ODU paper found that in 2008, 2010 and 2012 between
14.5 percent and 15.6 percent of self-declared non-citizen adults were
registered to vote.

In other words, the CCES and National Hispanic Survey, done with different
sample sizes, align.

Still, the liberal media declares the ODU work "debunked."

McLaughlin and Associates conducted the Hispanic poll for John Jordan, a
winery owner and Republican activist. California vineyards rely on Latino
farm workers.

The media's dismissal of voter fraud has not chased the White House from
the issue. Mr. Miller, the senior While House adviser, made the case
Sunday on "ABC's This Week," angering host George Stephanopoulos.

"An issue of voter fraud is something we're going to be looking at very
seriously and very hard," Mr. Miller said. "But the reality is, is that we
know for a fact, you have massive numbers of non-citizens registered to
vote in this country. Nobody disputes that."

He added, "The White House has provided enormous evidence with respect to
voter fraud, with respect to people being registered in more than one
state, dead people voting, non-citizens being registered to vote And as a
country, we should be aghast about the fact that you have people who have
no right to vote in this country, registered to vote, canceling out the
franchise of lawful citizens of this country."

Instead of focusing on the registration issue, an agitated Mr.
Stephanopoulos lashed out at Mr. Trump for claiming there were 3 million
to 5 million illegals voting Nov. 8 and that voters were bused in from
Massachusetts to vote in New Hampshire.

"You have provided zero evidence that the president's claim that he would
have won the general - the popular vote if 3 million to 5 million illegal
immigrants hadn't voted, zero evidence for either one of those claims,"
the host said.

In his Super Bowl interview with Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, Mr. Trump veered
away from the 5 million prediction and instead said he wants his task
force to focus on cleaning up registration.

"It has to do with the registration," he said "And when you look at the
registration and you see dead people that have voted, when you see people
that are registered in two states, that have voted in two states, when you
see other things, when you see illegals, people that are not citizens and
they are on the registration rolls."

"Look, Bill we can be babies, but you take a look at the registration, you
have illegals, you have dead people, you have this, it's really a bad
situation, it's really bad."

When Mr. O'Reilly reminded the president he has not presented data to show
that 3 million illegals voted, Mr. Trump said, "Forget that. Forget all
that. Just take a look at the registration and we're going to do it."
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.


http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
AlleyCat
2017-02-21 06:41:56 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:29:53 -0800 (PST), Matt says...
How cute, the Trumpflake can't handle it, so he projects his fear on others. Very telling, very like Steve. Guess you can't get it up anymore?
So obvious, you little conservatives. Sad, really.
Really? Is that all you have... YOUR fears and projections?

Exactly like the snowflake comments, snowflake.

ALL you can do is call us the SAME names and tell us we feel the SAME way
you snowflakes feel.

Wow.

So pathetically weak. No wonder you lost everything. The meek (liberals)
will NOT inherent the Earth.

[chuckle]
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Muslims.
Muslims are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, they kill
homosexuals BY LAW and they treat women as slaves and chattel. Their old
men rape little boys and get away with it... oh, and they HATE you. Am I
leaving anything else out that you just LOVE about them?
Alan Baker
2017-02-21 05:06:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 10:55:24 -0800 (PST), Matt says...
Post by AlleyCat
A large number of non-citizen Hispanics, as many as 2 million, were
illegally registered to vote in the U.S., according to a nationwide poll.
<chuckle>
Now they poll illegal aliens to ask if they voted?
Yes.
That's funny. Fake news, of course
Gawd, you're a fucking idiot.
I guess you missed THIS, huh idiot? It was little-noticed, because the
lamestream media won't report topics like this. Omission is the same as a
lie.
The little-noticed Hispanic survey was conducted in June 2013 by
McLaughlin and Associates to gauge the opinions of U.S. resident Latinos
on a wide range of issues.
Inside the poll is a page devoted to voter profiles. Of the randomly
selected sample of 800 Hispanics, 56 percent, or 448, said they were non-
citizens, and of those, 13 percent said they were registered to vote. The
448 would presumably be a mix of illegal immigrants and non-citizens who
are in the U.S. legally, such as visa holders or permanent residents.
Here's the actual survey:

<http://www.mclaughlinonline.com/lib/sitefiles/National_Hispanic_Presentation_06-21-13_-_FOR_RELEASE.pdf>

Please show where it says that 448 Hispanics surveyed were non-citizens...
AlleyCat
2017-02-21 10:25:56 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 21:06:44 -0800, Alan Baker says...
Post by Alan Baker
<http://www.mclaughlinonline.com/lib/sitefiles/National_Hispanic_Presentation_06-21-13_-_FOR_RELEASE.pdf>
Please show where it says that 448 Hispanics surveyed were non-citizens...
You only looked at the pictures, like a 4 year old, dint ya?

OK... What's 800 x 56%? Uhhh... 448. Right?

Now... look on page 68. Nah, fuck that... EVERYONE open the PDF and look
on page 68. Didn't download the PDF? Well, we have that problem licked
too.

Loading Image...

orrr...

https://www.scribd.com/document/339894438/National-Hispanic-Presentation-
06-21-13-For-RELEASE

*****

Pg. 68 - Voter Profile

Non
Tot. Reg. Reg.


Citizen % % %

Yes 43 86 10

No 56 13 90


Again... what's 800 x 56%? Uhhh... 448. Right? See that 13?

James Agresti, who directs the research nonprofit "Just Facts,"
applied the 13 percent figure to 2013 U.S. Census numbers for non-citizen
Hispanic adults. In 2013, the Census reported that 11.8 million non-
citizen Hispanic adults lived here, which would amount to 1.5 million
illegally registered Latinos.

Accounting for the margin of error based on the sample size of non-
citizens, Mr. Agresti calculated that the number of illegally registered
Hispanics could range from 1.0 million to 2.1 million.

Yup... HILLARY voters. The dregs.
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.


http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
AlleyCat
2017-02-22 00:03:34 UTC
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 21:06:44 -0800, Alan Baker says...
Post by Alan Baker
<http://www.mclaughlinonline.com/lib/sitefiles/National_Hispanic_Presentation_06-21-13_-_FOR_RELEASE.pdf>
Please show where it says that 448 Hispanics surveyed were non-citizens...
You only looked at the pictures, like a 4 year old, dint ya?

OK... What's 800 x 56%? Uhhh... 448. Right?

Now... look on page 68. Nah, fuck that... EVERYONE open the PDF and look
on page 68. Didn't download the PDF? Well, we have that problem licked
too.

http://i.imgur.com/2dBE435.jpg

orrr...

https://www.scribd.com/document/339894438/National-Hispanic-Presentation-
06-21-13-For-RELEASE

*****

Pg. 68 - Voter Profile

Non
Tot. Reg. Reg.


Citizen % % %

Yes 43 86 10

No 56 13 90


Again... what's 800 x 56%? Uhhh... 448. Right? See that 13?

James Agresti, who directs the research nonprofit "Just Facts,"
applied the 13 percent figure to 2013 U.S. Census numbers for non-citizen
Hispanic adults. In 2013, the Census reported that 11.8 million non-
citizen Hispanic adults lived here, which would amount to 1.5 million
illegally registered Latinos.

Accounting for the margin of error based on the sample size of non-
citizens, Mr. Agresti calculated that the number of illegally registered
Hispanics could range from 1.0 million to 2.1 million.

Yup... HILLARY voters. The dregs.
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.


http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
AlleyCat
2017-02-22 02:10:05 UTC
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 21:06:44 -0800, Alan Baker:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0)
Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1

Organization: Datemas.de http://www.news.datemas.de
Post by Alan Baker
<http://www.mclaughlinonline.com/lib/sitefiles/National_Hispanic_Presentation_06-21-13_-_FOR_RELEASE.pdf>
Please show where it says that 448 Hispanics surveyed were non-citizens...
You only looked at the pictures, like a 4 year old, dint ya?

OK... What's 800 x 56%? Uhhh... 448. Right?

Now... look on page 68. Nah, fuck that... EVERYONE open the PDF and look
on page 68. Didn't download the PDF? Well, we have that problem licked
too.

http://i.imgur.com/2dBE435.jpg

orrr...

https://www.scribd.com/document/339894438/National-Hispanic-Presentation-
06-21-13-For-RELEASE

*****

Pg. 68 - Voter Profile

Non
Tot. Reg. Reg.


Citizen % % %

Yes 43 86 10

No 56 13 90


Again... what's 800 x 56%? Uhhh... 448. Right? See that 13?

James Agresti, who directs the research nonprofit "Just Facts,"
applied the 13 percent figure to 2013 U.S. Census numbers for non-citizen
Hispanic adults. In 2013, the Census reported that 11.8 million non-
citizen Hispanic adults lived here, which would amount to 1.5 million
illegally registered Latinos.

Accounting for the margin of error based on the sample size of non-
citizens, Mr. Agresti calculated that the number of illegally registered
Hispanics could range from 1.0 million to 2.1 million.

Yup... HILLARY voters. The dregs.
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.


http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Muslims.
Muslims are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, they kill
homosexuals BY LAW and they treat women as slaves and chattel. Their old
men rape little boys and get away with it... oh, and they HATE you. Am I
leaving anything else out that you just LOVE about them?
Alan Baker
2017-02-22 03:05:47 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0)
Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1
Organization: Datemas.de http://www.news.datemas.de
Post by Alan Baker
<http://www.mclaughlinonline.com/lib/sitefiles/National_Hispanic_Presentation_06-21-13_-_FOR_RELEASE.pdf>
Please show where it says that 448 Hispanics surveyed were non-citizens...
You only looked at the pictures, like a 4 year old, dint ya?
OK... What's 800 x 56%? Uhhh... 448. Right?
Now... look on page 68. Nah, fuck that... EVERYONE open the PDF and look
on page 68. Didn't download the PDF? Well, we have that problem licked
too.
http://i.imgur.com/2dBE435.jpg
orrr...
https://www.scribd.com/document/339894438/National-Hispanic-Presentation-
06-21-13-For-RELEASE
*****
Pg. 68 - Voter Profile
Non
Tot. Reg. Reg.
Citizen % % %
Yes 43 86 10
No 56 13 90
Again... what's 800 x 56%? Uhhh... 448. Right? See that 13?
James Agresti, who directs the research nonprofit "Just Facts,"
applied the 13 percent figure to 2013 U.S. Census numbers for non-citizen
Hispanic adults. In 2013, the Census reported that 11.8 million non-
citizen Hispanic adults lived here, which would amount to 1.5 million
illegally registered Latinos.
Accounting for the margin of error based on the sample size of non-
citizens, Mr. Agresti calculated that the number of illegally registered
Hispanics could range from 1.0 million to 2.1 million.
Yup... HILLARY voters. The dregs.
And clearly some of those didn't understand the question...

...becuase 13 + 90 is 103%
AlleyCat
2017-02-22 05:27:32 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
<http://www.mclaughlinonline.com/lib/sitefiles/National_Hispanic_Presentation_06-21-13_-_FOR_RELEASE.pdf>
Please show where it says that 448 Hispanics surveyed were non-citizens...
You only looked at the pictures, like a 4 year old, dint ya?

OK... What's 800 x 56%? Uhhh... 448. Right?

Now... look on page 68. Nah, fuck that... EVERYONE open the PDF and look
on page 68. Didn't download the PDF? Well, we have that problem licked
too.

http://i.imgur.com/2dBE435.jpg

orrr...

https://www.scribd.com/document/339894438/National-Hispanic-Presentation-
06-21-13-For-RELEASE

*****

Pg. 68 - Voter Profile

Non
Tot. Reg. Reg.


Citizen % % %

Yes 43 86 10

No 56 13 90
Post by Alan Baker
And clearly some of those didn't understand the question...
And clearly, some of "those" (YOU) didn't ASK a question.
Post by Alan Baker
"Please show where it says that 448 Hispanics surveyed were non
-citizens..."
Already shown... PROVEN.
Post by Alan Baker
...becuase 13 + 90 is 103%
OH MY GAWD!! Are You Fucking Shitting Me?? Do you not know how to READ
columned text? The "90" and "10" aren't in the same column, dumbass.

They are in SEPARATE stat columns, idiot.

Citizen percentage - Total - Registered - Non-Registered

Wow.

Out of the 800 Hispanics that are NOT registered to vote, 10% or them ARE
citizens.

Out of the 800 Hispanics that are NOT registered to vote, 90% or them are
NOT citizens.

I can see where you can get confused, after all, you probably STILL don't
get it that all thumbs are fingers, but not all fingers are thumbs...
right?

LOL... you get your ass handed to you, and you pull THIS bullshit? I
should have figured I'd get the typical lying liberal bullshit.

Do you REALLY not see where you fucked up? Of COURSE, you do, but you have
to point to something "else" that isn't even something else to deflect
away from the fact, that you were wrong and got your ass handed to you.

It HAS to be that, or you're fucking stupid. Which is it... stupid OR
wrong?

God, what a fucking joke.

*****

Here... I'll explain it like I would to my children. I know THEY'D get it.

Are you a citizen? (43% said Yes)

Are you a citizen? (56% said No)

OF those that ARE registered to vote:

Is registered to vote a citizen? (Yes - 86%)

Is registered to vote a citizen? (No - 13%)

OF those that are NOT registered to vote:

Is non-registered to vote a citizen? (Yes - 90%)

Is non-registered to vote a citizen? (Yes - 10%)

You see how that works, liberal?

If you want to keep this liberal bullshit feigned (or not), stupidity
going, I suggest you write to McLaughlin & Associates themselves. I have
nothing to prove to you, other than your stupidity.

http://mclaughlinonline.com/contact-us/
AlleyCat
2017-02-22 06:47:48 UTC
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 23:27:32 -0600, AlleyCat says...

I mistyped.

The "90" and "10" ARE in the same column.

The "90" and "13" are NOT in the same column, dumbass.
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.

http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
shitbag nash
2017-02-22 06:59:56 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 23:27:32 -0600, AlleyCat says...
I fucked up.
We know.
AlleyCat
2017-02-22 09:32:18 UTC
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 22:59:56 -0800, shitbag nash says...
Post by shitbag nash
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 23:27:32 -0600, AlleyCat says...
I fucked up.
We know.
No... Alan Shitbag Baker fucked up. I merely put a 10 instead of 13,
because that IS the correct number that goes in the column with 90, douche
bag. But dumbass liberal Baker read it wrong.

If your going to be a shitbag nym-shifter, Rudy, you might as well have a
good article to say I fucked up in.

Your butt buddy Baker fucked up, and he knows it. You liberals can't even
read a fucking columned chart.

It's an up and down chart, doofus Baker, not horizontal.

Since you want to TRY to be relevant by nym-shifting, back you go into the
Bozo Bin.

If'n you don't wanna change newsreaders, you might want to change
everything else, but then again, I have everything else covered. ;-)

Subject contains "Rudy"
Or
From contains "Rudy"
Or
Header contains "Rudy"
Or
Body contains "Rudy"

*****

You're the only one who uses this particular combination of
browser/OS/newsreader/email clients, dumbass.


From: Rudy Canoza <***@philhendrie.con>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0)
Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0
Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com

Body contains "forte"
And
Body contains "gecko"
And
Body contains "WOW64"

I seriously doubt you'll change newsreaders, so see you in two weeks...
one if I'm feeling catty. Mewow. LOL

But you go ahead... your childish insults are readily apparent. I'll know
you just by the smell, shitbag.

[giggle]
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.

http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
AlleyCat
2017-02-23 01:13:03 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
Is non-registered to vote a citizen? (Yes - 90%)
Is non-registered to vote a citizen? (Yes - 10%)
You see how that works, liberal?
Yup.
Good, now call upstairs for mommy (I KNOW she's there), and get her to
give you a cookie... you deserved it.
Want to guess again?
No guess, so, no.

http://mclaughlinonline.com/contact-us/

DO IT, chicken shit.
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.

http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
AlleyCat
2017-02-24 03:14:52 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
Want to guess again?
No guess, so, no.
http://mclaughlinonline.com/contact-us/
DO IT, chicken shit.
Ah, you gave up after the first guess
Uhhh... nope... I emailed McLaughlin. YOU obviously didn't, so you're the
chicken shit I said you were.
because you know what you posted was pure BS
What exactly do you think is bullshit? Did you contact McLaughlin and ask
THEM if it's bullshit? Nope, so it's only your stinking ass OPINION.

Uhhh... I didn't take the poll. The BS, as you call it, is IN the poll. I
showed it to you. What exactly do you have a problem with?

The illegal Mexicans are doing exactly what you want them to do... vote.
Why are you disputing that FACT, when THAT'S what you WANT them to do?
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.

http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
Alan Baker
2017-02-24 03:18:15 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
Post by AlleyCat
Want to guess again?
No guess, so, no.
http://mclaughlinonline.com/contact-us/
DO IT, chicken shit.
Ah, you gave up after the first guess
Uhhh... nope... I emailed McLaughlin. YOU obviously didn't, so you're the
chicken shit I said you were.
Proof?
Post by AlleyCat
because you know what you posted was pure BS
What exactly do you think is bullshit? Did you contact McLaughlin and ask
THEM if it's bullshit? Nope, so it's only your stinking ass OPINION.
Uhhh... I didn't take the poll. The BS, as you call it, is IN the poll. I
showed it to you. What exactly do you have a problem with?
The illegal Mexicans are doing exactly what you want them to do... vote.
Why are you disputing that FACT, when THAT'S what you WANT them to do?
12% of a survey of (what was it?) 800 claimed they were registered to
vote...

We don't know if they are right or mistaken.
AlleyCat
2017-02-23 01:20:03 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
...becuase 13 + 90 is 103%
Which proves, beyond a shadow a doubt, he is US citizen. He *can't* do
basic arithmetic.
Which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, you are a Downs Syndrome baby,
because you AND the dumbass who misspelled "becuase", don't know how to
read a vertical "chart".

"becuase 13 + 90 is 103%"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

90 and 13 aren't in the same column, you inbred sister fucking moron.

Look at it again, Einstein...

The columns (going down) are as follows:

Total Registered Non Registered


http://i.imgur.com/2dBE435.jpg

What idiots.

[chuckle]
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Mexicans.
Mexicans are against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, mainly
because they're mostly Catholic... oh, and they HATE you. Am I leaving
anything else out that you just LOVE about them?

Riiiiight... they're potential Democrap voters.

http://i.imgur.com/VsWANkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5oeqnDw.jpg
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