Discussion:
Democrats Gave America Slavery
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Ron White
2015-06-28 19:42:01 UTC
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That's why all the coloreds vote Republican and Fred Oinka is a racist left
wing Pinko.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2015-06-28 20:59:10 UTC
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On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:42:01 -0400, Ron White <***@ronwhite.net>
wrote:

Nope, Democrats just protected it, like they do now.
bookoflife.org
2015-06-28 21:01:21 UTC
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Post by Ron White
That's why all the coloreds vote Republican and Fred Oinka is a racist left
wing Pinko.
shut up, Geroge washington was liberal he had 250 slaves, he is slave dude, he is racist, grow up.
Gray
2015-06-28 21:39:25 UTC
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Post by Ron White
That's why all the coloreds vote Republican and Fred Oinka is a racist left
wing Pinko.
Apparently you haven't read the news at all over the past a 100 years.

We will never have a truly free society unless guns are permanently banned!
Klaus Schadenfreude
2015-06-28 21:54:24 UTC
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Post by Gray
Post by Ron White
That's why all the coloreds vote Republican and Fred Oinka is a racist left
wing Pinko.
Apparently you haven't read the news at all over the past a 100 years.
We will never have a truly free society unless guns are permanently banned!
Wrong again. Then we'll be truly enslaved.
Gray
2015-07-03 14:56:33 UTC
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On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 14:54:24 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Gray
Post by Ron White
That's why all the coloreds vote Republican and Fred Oinka is a racist left
wing Pinko.
Apparently you haven't read the news at all over the past a 100 years.
We will never have a truly free society unless guns are permanently banned!
Wrong again. Then we'll be truly enslaved.
You're idiotic.

Don't fall for their propaganda. Guns do kill people.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2015-07-03 16:55:28 UTC
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Post by Gray
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 14:54:24 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Gray
Post by Ron White
That's why all the coloreds vote Republican and Fred Oinka is a racist left
wing Pinko.
Apparently you haven't read the news at all over the past a 100 years.
We will never have a truly free society unless guns are permanently banned!
Wrong again. Then we'll be truly enslaved.
You're idiotic.
That's about the level of argument I've come to expect from you.
Post by Gray
Don't fall for their propaganda. Guns do kill people.
What propaganda are you babbling about? You mean this?

"You know that these [assault] weapons can shoot down airplanes, they
can blow up railroads. "
-Gun Expert Rev. Jesse Jackson.

"I've seen the bullets that implode. In Sandy Hook, youngsters were
dismembered. "
-Gun expert Dianne Feinstein

"Well, you know, my shotgun will do better for you than your AR-15,
because you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the
shotgun through the door."
-Gun expert Joe Biden

"I said, 'Jill, if there's ever a problem, just walk out on the
balcony here, walk out and
put that double-barrel shotgun and fire two blasts outside the
house.'"
-Gun expert Joe Biden

"There is no hunter that needs automatic military weapons to enjoy the
culture of going hunting, We're talking about millions of kids dying
-- being shot down by assault weapons."
- Crime Expert Charlie Rangel

"I think a lot of senators did not understand that if Florida gives
someone a concealed-carry permit and they have a criminal record a
mile long, you've got to let them carry in your state." Rand said.
-Kristen Rand
Violence Policy Center
Legislative Director

"I will tell you these are ammunition -- bullets -- so the people who
have those now they are going to shoot them, and so if you ban -- if
you ban them in the future, the number of these high capacity
magazines is going to decrease dramatically over time because the
bullets will have been shot and there won't be any more available,"
she said.
-Firearms Expert Rep. Diana DeGette (D)

"For target shooting, that's okay. Get a license and go to the range.
For defense of the home, that's why we have police departments."
-Former Reagan White House Press Sec. James Brady
speaking on the right to bear arms."

Don't condemn the gangbangers, they've got guns that are trafficked --
that are not enforced, that are straw purchased and they come into
places even that have strong gun laws."
- Crime Expert Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas)

"2nd Amendment must go. Violence has 2 stop."
-Jay Mohr Twitter reaction to Boston marathon
bomb.

"All guns made of metal are engraved with a serial number where 3D
guns do not have a serial number because they are made of plastic."
-Reporter Josh Benson, CBS TV Miama, FL
Governor Swill
2015-07-03 20:32:35 UTC
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Post by Gray
You're idiotic.
Don't fall for their propaganda. Guns do kill people.
Please cite a gun that killed somebody. Anybody. Doesn't matter who.
Just cite an occasion when a gun, on it's own, up and killed somebody.

Swill
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"Democrats are . . . the party that says government can
make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
out of your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
Joe Cooper
2015-07-04 15:39:28 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Please cite a gun that killed somebody. Anybody. Doesn't matter who.
Just cite an occasion when a gun, on it's own, up and killed somebody.
I put my Python on the coffee table and ordered it to kill. Waited all day,
but the SOB just sat there...
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"The sad part of this submission to evil is that leftists are abject
cowards and pack animals; stand up to them en masse, and they’ll scatter
like the capons and clucking hens they are. Instead, legitimate freedom is
being lost." (Selwyn Duke)

"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who didn’t
ask for it." (Derek Hunter)

"Liberals never argue with one another over substance; their only dispute
is how to prevent the public from figuring out what they really believe."
(Ann Coulter)
Scout
2015-07-04 18:48:58 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Governor Swill
Please cite a gun that killed somebody. Anybody. Doesn't matter who.
Just cite an occasion when a gun, on it's own, up and killed somebody.
I put my Python on the coffee table and ordered it to kill. Waited all day,
but the SOB just sat there...
Apparently your Python isn't well regulated, or it would have obeyed the
command......

:-)

.....maybe you should trade it in on one of those guns that can only kill?
RD Sandman
2015-07-04 20:09:20 UTC
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Post by Scout
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Governor Swill
Please cite a gun that killed somebody. Anybody. Doesn't matter
who. Just cite an occasion when a gun, on it's own, up and killed
somebody.
I put my Python on the coffee table and ordered it to kill. Waited all day,
but the SOB just sat there...
Apparently your Python isn't well regulated, or it would have obeyed
the command......
:-)
.....maybe you should trade it in on one of those guns that can only kill?
Hmmm, someone several years ago placed their gun under a monitoring cam.
It was kept on for weeks and that damn gun never moved.
--
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Governor Swill
2015-07-04 22:33:22 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
Post by Scout
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Governor Swill
Please cite a gun that killed somebody. Anybody. Doesn't matter
who. Just cite an occasion when a gun, on it's own, up and killed
somebody.
I guess "Gray" isn't going to respond.
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Scout
Post by Joe Cooper
I put my Python on the coffee table and ordered it to kill. Waited
all day, but the SOB just sat there...
Apparently your Python isn't well regulated, or it would have obeyed
the command......
:-)
.....maybe you should trade it in on one of those guns that can only kill?
Hmmm, someone several years ago placed their gun under a monitoring cam.
It was kept on for weeks and that damn gun never moved.
I've heard of cases where guns from the Civil War were found in
fields, rusted and corroded. You'd think a gun that could kill
somebody would have sense enough to come in out of the rain.

Swill
--
"Democrats are . . . the party that says government can
make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
out of your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
RD Sandman
2015-07-04 22:52:32 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Scout
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Governor Swill
Please cite a gun that killed somebody. Anybody. Doesn't matter
who. Just cite an occasion when a gun, on it's own, up and killed
somebody.
I guess "Gray" isn't going to respond.
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Scout
Post by Joe Cooper
I put my Python on the coffee table and ordered it to kill. Waited
all day, but the SOB just sat there...
Apparently your Python isn't well regulated, or it would have obeyed
the command......
:-)
.....maybe you should trade it in on one of those guns that can only kill?
Hmmm, someone several years ago placed their gun under a monitoring
cam. It was kept on for weeks and that damn gun never moved.
I've heard of cases where guns from the Civil War were found in
fields, rusted and corroded. You'd think a gun that could kill
somebody would have sense enough to come in out of the rain.
Perhaps it was simply lurking....waiting for the person it was to kill,
but they never showed up.
--
Sleep well tonight.......

RD (The Sandman}

In these days and times, there is really only one race on this planet.
It is called "human". It just comes in many colors and sizes.

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Governor Swill
2015-07-05 00:45:33 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Scout
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Governor Swill
Please cite a gun that killed somebody. Anybody. Doesn't matter
who. Just cite an occasion when a gun, on it's own, up and killed
somebody.
I guess "Gray" isn't going to respond.
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Scout
Post by Joe Cooper
I put my Python on the coffee table and ordered it to kill. Waited
all day, but the SOB just sat there...
Apparently your Python isn't well regulated, or it would have obeyed
the command......
:-)
.....maybe you should trade it in on one of those guns that can only kill?
Hmmm, someone several years ago placed their gun under a monitoring
cam. It was kept on for weeks and that damn gun never moved.
I've heard of cases where guns from the Civil War were found in
fields, rusted and corroded. You'd think a gun that could kill
somebody would have sense enough to come in out of the rain.
Perhaps it was simply lurking....waiting for the person it was to kill,
but they never showed up.
Perhaps its theater tickets fell through.

Swill
--
"Democrats are . . . the party that says government can
make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
out of your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
RD Sandman
2015-07-05 17:18:23 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Scout
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Governor Swill
Please cite a gun that killed somebody. Anybody. Doesn't matter
who. Just cite an occasion when a gun, on it's own, up and killed
somebody.
I guess "Gray" isn't going to respond.
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Scout
Post by Joe Cooper
I put my Python on the coffee table and ordered it to kill. Waited
all day, but the SOB just sat there...
Apparently your Python isn't well regulated, or it would have obeyed
the command......
:-)
.....maybe you should trade it in on one of those guns that can
only
Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Scout
kill?
Hmmm, someone several years ago placed their gun under a monitoring
cam. It was kept on for weeks and that damn gun never moved.
I've heard of cases where guns from the Civil War were found in
fields, rusted and corroded. You'd think a gun that could kill
somebody would have sense enough to come in out of the rain.
Perhaps it was simply lurking....waiting for the person it was to kill,
but they never showed up.
Perhaps its theater tickets fell through.
Swill
No, that one made it. I have often wondered, though, if other than that,
did Ms. Lincoln enjoy the play?
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RD (The Sandman}

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It is called "human". It just comes in many colors and sizes.

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Joe Cooper
2015-07-05 17:32:03 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
No, that one made it. I have often wondered, though, if other than
that, did Ms. Lincoln enjoy the play?
That was a popular member of the Sick Jokes Club Library back in the late
50s - thanks for the memory.

"Mrs. Jones, can Johnny come out and play?"

"Children, you know Johnny lost his arms and legs from leprosy."

"We do, Mrs. Jones. We want to use him for 1st base."
--
"The sad part of this submission to evil is that leftists are abject
cowards and pack animals; stand up to them en masse, and they’ll scatter
like the capons and clucking hens they are. Instead, legitimate freedom is
being lost." (Selwyn Duke)

"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who didn’t
ask for it." (Derek Hunter)

"Liberals never argue with one another over substance; their only dispute
is how to prevent the public from figuring out what they really believe."
(Ann Coulter)
RD Sandman
2015-07-05 17:42:49 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
Post by RD Sandman
No, that one made it. I have often wondered, though, if other than
that, did Ms. Lincoln enjoy the play?
That was a popular member of the Sick Jokes Club Library back in the
late 50s - thanks for the memory.
You are welcome.
Post by Joe Cooper
"Mrs. Jones, can Johnny come out and play?"
"Children, you know Johnny lost his arms and legs from leprosy."
"We do, Mrs. Jones. We want to use him for 1st base."
I remember it as third base but why quibble? ;)
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RD (The Sandman}

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It is called "human". It just comes in many colors and sizes.

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FPP
2015-07-05 20:48:35 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by RD Sandman
No, that one made it. I have often wondered, though, if other than
that, did Ms. Lincoln enjoy the play?
That was a popular member of the Sick Jokes Club Library back in the
late 50s - thanks for the memory.
You are welcome.
Post by Joe Cooper
"Mrs. Jones, can Johnny come out and play?"
"Children, you know Johnny lost his arms and legs from leprosy."
"We do, Mrs. Jones. We want to use him for 1st base."
I remember it as third base but why quibble? ;)
So... you're new here.
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Governor Swill
2015-07-06 01:14:44 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by RD Sandman
No, that one made it. I have often wondered, though, if other than
that, did Ms. Lincoln enjoy the play?
That was a popular member of the Sick Jokes Club Library back in the
late 50s - thanks for the memory.
You are welcome.
Post by Joe Cooper
"Mrs. Jones, can Johnny come out and play?"
"Children, you know Johnny lost his arms and legs from leprosy."
"We do, Mrs. Jones. We want to use him for 1st base."
I remember it as third base but why quibble? ;)
So... you're new here.
Sandman has been around for a while.

It's funnier as home plate. That way Johnny gets a great view of the
game.

Swill
--
"Democrats are . . . the party that says government can
make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
out of your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
RD Sandman
2015-07-06 16:52:35 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
On 2015-07-05 17:42:49 +0000, RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by RD Sandman
No, that one made it. I have often wondered, though, if other
than that, did Ms. Lincoln enjoy the play?
That was a popular member of the Sick Jokes Club Library back in
the late 50s - thanks for the memory.
You are welcome.
Post by Joe Cooper
"Mrs. Jones, can Johnny come out and play?"
"Children, you know Johnny lost his arms and legs from leprosy."
"We do, Mrs. Jones. We want to use him for 1st base."
I remember it as third base but why quibble? ;)
So... you're new here.
Sandman has been around for a while.
It's funnier as home plate. That way Johnny gets a great view of the
game.
;)
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RD (The Sandman}

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It is called "human". It just comes in many colors and sizes.

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RD Sandman
2015-07-06 16:52:09 UTC
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On 2015-07-05 17:42:49 +0000, RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by RD Sandman
No, that one made it. I have often wondered, though, if other than
that, did Ms. Lincoln enjoy the play?
That was a popular member of the Sick Jokes Club Library back in the
late 50s - thanks for the memory.
You are welcome.
Post by Joe Cooper
"Mrs. Jones, can Johnny come out and play?"
"Children, you know Johnny lost his arms and legs from leprosy."
"We do, Mrs. Jones. We want to use him for 1st base."
I remember it as third base but why quibble? ;)
So... you're new here.
Only a couple of decades...
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RD (The Sandman}

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It is called "human". It just comes in many colors and sizes.

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FPP
2015-07-06 19:38:35 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
On 2015-07-05 17:42:49 +0000, RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by RD Sandman
No, that one made it. I have often wondered, though, if other than
that, did Ms. Lincoln enjoy the play?
That was a popular member of the Sick Jokes Club Library back in the
late 50s - thanks for the memory.
You are welcome.
Post by Joe Cooper
"Mrs. Jones, can Johnny come out and play?"
"Children, you know Johnny lost his arms and legs from leprosy."
"We do, Mrs. Jones. We want to use him for 1st base."
I remember it as third base but why quibble? ;)
So... you're new here.
Only a couple of decades...
Practically a baby, then... ;-)
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RD Sandman
2015-07-06 20:03:54 UTC
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On 2015-07-06 16:52:09 +0000, RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
On 2015-07-05 17:42:49 +0000, RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by RD Sandman
No, that one made it. I have often wondered, though, if other
than that, did Ms. Lincoln enjoy the play?
That was a popular member of the Sick Jokes Club Library back in
the late 50s - thanks for the memory.
You are welcome.
Post by Joe Cooper
"Mrs. Jones, can Johnny come out and play?"
"Children, you know Johnny lost his arms and legs from leprosy."
"We do, Mrs. Jones. We want to use him for 1st base."
I remember it as third base but why quibble? ;)
So... you're new here.
Only a couple of decades...
Practically a baby, then... ;-)
Just about the time that TPG started.
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RD (The Sandman}

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It is called "human". It just comes in many colors and sizes.

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Governor Swill
2015-07-05 18:31:39 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
I've heard of cases where guns from the Civil War were found in
fields, rusted and corroded. You'd think a gun that could kill
somebody would have sense enough to come in out of the rain.
Perhaps it was simply lurking....waiting for the person it was to kill,
but they never showed up.
Perhaps its theater tickets fell through.
No, that one made it. I have often wondered, though, if other than that,
did Ms. Lincoln enjoy the play?
Right up until that annoying distraction. Lesson learned: Never go
to the theater and sit near a gun. They'll invariably report loudly,
probably during a critical line, so if you want to understand the
play, you'll have to go again tomorrow night.

Swill
--
"Democrats are . . . the party that says government can
make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
out of your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
RD Sandman
2015-07-05 19:09:05 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
I've heard of cases where guns from the Civil War were found in
fields, rusted and corroded. You'd think a gun that could kill
somebody would have sense enough to come in out of the rain.
Perhaps it was simply lurking....waiting for the person it was to
kill, but they never showed up.
Perhaps its theater tickets fell through.
No, that one made it. I have often wondered, though, if other than
that, did Ms. Lincoln enjoy the play?
Right up until that annoying distraction. Lesson learned: Never go
to the theater and sit near a gun.
How would you know? ;)

They'll invariably report loudly,
Post by Governor Swill
probably during a critical line, so if you want to understand the
play, you'll have to go again tomorrow night.
Swill
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RD (The Sandman}

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It is called "human". It just comes in many colors and sizes.

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Governor Swill
2015-07-05 23:25:41 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
I've heard of cases where guns from the Civil War were found in
fields, rusted and corroded. You'd think a gun that could kill
somebody would have sense enough to come in out of the rain.
Perhaps it was simply lurking....waiting for the person it was to
kill, but they never showed up.
Perhaps its theater tickets fell through.
No, that one made it. I have often wondered, though, if other than
that, did Ms. Lincoln enjoy the play?
Right up until that annoying distraction. Lesson learned: Never go
to the theater and sit near a gun.
How would you know? ;)
Um, ah, Mrs Lincoln told me. Yeah! That's it! Mary told me!

Swill
--
"Democrats are . . . the party that says government can
make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
out of your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
RD Sandman
2015-07-06 16:51:05 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
I've heard of cases where guns from the Civil War were found in
fields, rusted and corroded. You'd think a gun that could kill
somebody would have sense enough to come in out of the rain.
Perhaps it was simply lurking....waiting for the person it was to
kill, but they never showed up.
Perhaps its theater tickets fell through.
No, that one made it. I have often wondered, though, if other than
that, did Ms. Lincoln enjoy the play?
Right up until that annoying distraction. Lesson learned: Never go
to the theater and sit near a gun.
How would you know? ;)
Um, ah, Mrs Lincoln told me. Yeah! That's it! Mary told me!
She told me that she enjoyed the play.....it held her in rapt attention.
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Sleep well tonight.......

RD (The Sandman}

In these days and times, there is really only one race on this planet.
It is called "human". It just comes in many colors and sizes.

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FPP
2015-07-05 06:23:32 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Scout
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Governor Swill
Please cite a gun that killed somebody. Anybody. Doesn't matter
who. Just cite an occasion when a gun, on it's own, up and killed
somebody.
I guess "Gray" isn't going to respond.
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Scout
Post by Joe Cooper
I put my Python on the coffee table and ordered it to kill. Waited
all day, but the SOB just sat there...
Apparently your Python isn't well regulated, or it would have obeyed
the command......
:-)
.....maybe you should trade it in on one of those guns that can only kill?
Hmmm, someone several years ago placed their gun under a monitoring
cam. It was kept on for weeks and that damn gun never moved.
I've heard of cases where guns from the Civil War were found in
fields, rusted and corroded. You'd think a gun that could kill
somebody would have sense enough to come in out of the rain.
Perhaps it was simply lurking....waiting for the person it was to kill,
but they never showed up.
Last I checked... a background check was on the buyer... not the bought.

I know that's an awful lot to process while you boys are pissing
yourselves laughing.
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RD Sandman
2015-07-05 17:20:37 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Scout
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Governor Swill
Please cite a gun that killed somebody. Anybody. Doesn't
matter who. Just cite an occasion when a gun, on it's own, up
and killed somebody.
I guess "Gray" isn't going to respond.
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Scout
Post by Joe Cooper
I put my Python on the coffee table and ordered it to kill.
Waited all day, but the SOB just sat there...
Apparently your Python isn't well regulated, or it would have
obeyed the command......
:-)
.....maybe you should trade it in on one of those guns that can only kill?
Hmmm, someone several years ago placed their gun under a monitoring
cam. It was kept on for weeks and that damn gun never moved.
I've heard of cases where guns from the Civil War were found in
fields, rusted and corroded. You'd think a gun that could kill
somebody would have sense enough to come in out of the rain.
Perhaps it was simply lurking....waiting for the person it was to
kill, but they never showed up.
Last I checked... a background check was on the buyer... not the bought.
Huh? What orifice did you pull that from?
I know that's an awful lot to process while you boys are pissing
yourselves laughing.
At your inane attempt at humor......not even a ripple. No, not the wine.
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It is called "human". It just comes in many colors and sizes.

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Governor Swill
2015-07-05 18:39:26 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Gray
You're idiotic.
Don't fall for their propaganda. Guns do kill people.
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Governor Swill
Please cite a gun that killed somebody. Anybody. Doesn't matter
who. Just cite an occasion when a gun, on it's own, up and killed
somebody.
I guess "Gray" isn't going to respond.
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Gray
Post by Joe Cooper
I put my Python on the coffee table and ordered it to kill. Waited
all day, but the SOB just sat there...
Apparently your Python isn't well regulated, or it would have obeyed
the command...... :-)
.....maybe you should trade it in on one of those guns that can only kill?
Hmmm, someone several years ago placed their gun under a monitoring
cam. It was kept on for weeks and that damn gun never moved.
I've heard of cases where guns from the Civil War were found in
fields, rusted and corroded. You'd think a gun that could kill
somebody would have sense enough to come in out of the rain.
Perhaps it was simply lurking....waiting for the person it was to kill,
but they never showed up.
Last I checked... a background check was on the buyer... not the bought.
I know that's an awful lot to process while you boys are pissing
yourselves laughing.
It's ok, Fred. We're laughing at *you*.

Swill
--
"Democrats are . . . the party that says government can
make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
out of your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
FPP
2015-07-05 20:51:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Gray
You're idiotic.
Don't fall for their propaganda. Guns do kill people.
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Governor Swill
Please cite a gun that killed somebody. Anybody. Doesn't matter
who. Just cite an occasion when a gun, on it's own, up and killed
somebody.
I guess "Gray" isn't going to respond.
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Gray
Post by Joe Cooper
I put my Python on the coffee table and ordered it to kill. Waited
all day, but the SOB just sat there...
Apparently your Python isn't well regulated, or it would have obeyed
the command...... :-)
.....maybe you should trade it in on one of those guns that can only kill?
Hmmm, someone several years ago placed their gun under a monitoring
cam. It was kept on for weeks and that damn gun never moved.
I've heard of cases where guns from the Civil War were found in
fields, rusted and corroded. You'd think a gun that could kill
somebody would have sense enough to come in out of the rain.
Perhaps it was simply lurking....waiting for the person it was to kill,
but they never showed up.
Last I checked... a background check was on the buyer... not the bought.
I know that's an awful lot to process while you boys are pissing
yourselves laughing.
It's ok, Fred. We're laughing at *you*.
Swill
So long as I can laugh after the elections, that's fine.

I laughed for 4 years after 2008, and I'm laughing for another 4 years
after 2012.

I suspect I'll be laughing until at least 2021... and YOU guys are the JOKE.
--
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Governor Swill
2015-07-06 01:34:05 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I know that's an awful lot to process while you boys are pissing
yourselves laughing.
It's ok, Fred. We're laughing at *you*.
So long as I can laugh after the elections, that's fine.
I laughed for 4 years after 2008, and I'm laughing for another 4 years
after 2012.
I suspect I'll be laughing until at least 2021... and YOU guys are the JOKE.
Just love how much alike left loons and right loons are - the
assumptions you guys make.

Just so you'll know, Mr Liberal Gun Owner, I've never registered for
either party and haven't voted for a Republican since 1990. Well, ok,
ONCE. I voted for Guiliani in the 2008 GOP primary.

Swill
--
"Democrats are . . . the party that says government can
make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
out of your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
Jeanne Douglas
2015-07-06 01:55:58 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I know that's an awful lot to process while you boys are pissing
yourselves laughing.
It's ok, Fred. We're laughing at *you*.
So long as I can laugh after the elections, that's fine.
I laughed for 4 years after 2008, and I'm laughing for another 4 years
after 2012.
I suspect I'll be laughing until at least 2021... and YOU guys are the JOKE.
Just love how much alike left loons and right loons are - the
assumptions you guys make.
Just so you'll know, Mr Liberal Gun Owner, I've never registered for
either party and haven't voted for a Republican since 1990. Well, ok,
ONCE. I voted for Guiliani in the 2008 GOP primary.
Really?

Why would anybody vote for Mr. "Noun Verb 9-11"?
--
JD

Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider
evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.
FPP
2015-07-06 04:23:16 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I know that's an awful lot to process while you boys are pissing
yourselves laughing.
It's ok, Fred. We're laughing at *you*.
So long as I can laugh after the elections, that's fine.
I laughed for 4 years after 2008, and I'm laughing for another 4 years
after 2012.
I suspect I'll be laughing until at least 2021... and YOU guys are the JOKE.
Just love how much alike left loons and right loons are - the
assumptions you guys make.
Just so you'll know, Mr Liberal Gun Owner, I've never registered for
either party and haven't voted for a Republican since 1990. Well, ok,
ONCE. I voted for Guiliani in the 2008 GOP primary.
Really?
Why would anybody vote for Mr. "Noun Verb 9-11"?
He's got really great teeth...
--
“Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.” ― Oscar Wilde
Governor Swill
2015-07-06 14:01:16 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I know that's an awful lot to process while you boys are pissing
yourselves laughing.
It's ok, Fred. We're laughing at *you*.
So long as I can laugh after the elections, that's fine.
I laughed for 4 years after 2008, and I'm laughing for another 4 years
after 2012.
I suspect I'll be laughing until at least 2021... and YOU guys are the JOKE.
Just love how much alike left loons and right loons are - the
assumptions you guys make.
Just so you'll know, Mr Liberal Gun Owner, I've never registered for
either party and haven't voted for a Republican since 1990. Well, ok,
ONCE. I voted for Guiliani in the 2008 GOP primary.
Really?
Why would anybody vote for Mr. "Noun Verb 9-11"?
On that day, Rudy was at the podium, speaking to America, answering
press questions, providing information, being strong and leading. He
hit all the right emotional notes without being cold or maudlin. He
was doing, what I felt even then, was the President's job.

And where *was* the President?

Hiding.

I vowed that day that if Giuliani (who I knew nothing about) ever ran
for President, I'd vote for him.

In 2008 it was Hillary or Obama in the Dem primary and it didn't
matter which won the nomination - they'd get my vote in the general
because I was so FURIOUS at the GOP for inflicting George Bush on the
nation. Giuliani had already exited the race by then, iirc, but was
still listed on the ballot so a vote for him didn't matter.

So, being an independent in Georgia, when asked which party primary I
wanted to vote in, I chose the Republican one and kept my promise.

Yeah, I've learned a lot about him since then and he's said some
pretty vile stuff, but I still respect and thank him for informing and
comforting America that day.

Swill
--
"Democrats are . . . the party that says government can
make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
out of your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
FPP
2015-07-06 19:37:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I know that's an awful lot to process while you boys are pissing
yourselves laughing.
It's ok, Fred. We're laughing at *you*.
So long as I can laugh after the elections, that's fine.
I laughed for 4 years after 2008, and I'm laughing for another 4 years
after 2012.
I suspect I'll be laughing until at least 2021... and YOU guys are the JOKE.
Just love how much alike left loons and right loons are - the
assumptions you guys make.
Just so you'll know, Mr Liberal Gun Owner, I've never registered for
either party and haven't voted for a Republican since 1990. Well, ok,
ONCE. I voted for Guiliani in the 2008 GOP primary.
Really?
Why would anybody vote for Mr. "Noun Verb 9-11"?
On that day, Rudy was at the podium, speaking to America, answering
press questions, providing information, being strong and leading. He
hit all the right emotional notes without being cold or maudlin. He
was doing, what I felt even then, was the President's job.
And where *was* the President?
Hiding.
I vowed that day that if Giuliani (who I knew nothing about) ever ran
for President, I'd vote for him.
In 2008 it was Hillary or Obama in the Dem primary and it didn't
matter which won the nomination - they'd get my vote in the general
because I was so FURIOUS at the GOP for inflicting George Bush on the
nation. Giuliani had already exited the race by then, iirc, but was
still listed on the ballot so a vote for him didn't matter.
So, being an independent in Georgia, when asked which party primary I
wanted to vote in, I chose the Republican one and kept my promise.
Yeah, I've learned a lot about him since then and he's said some
pretty vile stuff, but I still respect and thank him for informing and
comforting America that day.
Swill
The fact that Rudy was responsible for putting the Terrorism Command
center in the building everybody KNEW was the biggest target in New
York was enough to drop him from my list of eligible candidates.
Post by Governor Swill
The New York Police Department produced a detailed analysis in 1998
opposing plans by the city to locate its emergency command center at
the World Trade Center, but the Giuliani administration overrode those
objections. The command center later collapsed from damage in the Sept.
11 terrorist attack.
“Seven World Trade Center is a poor choice for the site of a crucial
command center for the top leadership of the City of New York,” a panel
of police experts, which was aided by the Secret Service, concluded in
a confidential Police Department memorandum.
The memorandum, which has not been previously disclosed, cited a number
of “significant points of vulnerability.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/26/us/politics/26emergency.html?_r=0
--
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FPP
2015-07-06 04:22:39 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I know that's an awful lot to process while you boys are pissing
yourselves laughing.
It's ok, Fred. We're laughing at *you*.
So long as I can laugh after the elections, that's fine.
I laughed for 4 years after 2008, and I'm laughing for another 4 years
after 2012.
I suspect I'll be laughing until at least 2021... and YOU guys are the JOKE.
Just love how much alike left loons and right loons are - the
assumptions you guys make.
Just so you'll know, Mr Liberal Gun Owner, I've never registered for
either party and haven't voted for a Republican since 1990. Well, ok,
ONCE. I voted for Guiliani in the 2008 GOP primary.
Swill
How does that change anything I said? Your ideas align with a certain
group... whether you think you're a part of it, or not.

Republicans can run away from Trump... but if they keep making excuses
for him, they still own everything he says.
--
It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the
chance? -R Reagan
Governor Swill
2015-07-06 14:24:56 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by Governor Swill
Just so you'll know, Mr Liberal Gun Owner, I've never registered for
either party and haven't voted for a Republican since 1990. Well, ok,
ONCE. I voted for Guiliani in the 2008 GOP primary.
How does that change anything I said? Your ideas align with a certain
group... whether you think you're a part of it, or not.
By your own logic, you're a radical, right wing, gun nut.
Post by FPP
Republicans can run away from Trump... but if they keep making excuses
for him, they still own everything he says.
Exactly! Thank you!

The GOP has a very hard choice to make and so far they've failed to
make it. They can tell their extreme right wing, libertarian, hate
based voters to fuck off, or the party can die.

They tried to hint to their radicals when they picked off the TP
candidates in the 2014 primaries but they're still letting such as
Trump, Santorum and Huckabee put an (R) after their names.

The thing is, BOTH parties are in trouble. Nationally, the largest
political group in the US isn't the GOP or the Dems, it's the non
aligned voter and in a few states, independents are in the majority.

Obviously most of these independents generally vote for the Dems or
GOP just as party members do, but they have the flexibility to do
otherwise and sometimes they do.

What the wing nuts of both parties have yet to learn is, *they* don't
elect squat. The majority of national elections hang on the swing
votes of 5% or less of the voters - those independents right in the
middle - the so called "swing vote".

That tiny slice of middle, the few million voters who actually do the
electing, doesn't appreciate being labeled "socialist" by right wing
idiots any more than it likes being labeled "fascist" by left wing
freaks. It also doesn't appreciate having to sift throw the deluge of
chaff coming from both sides through the media just to find a few
grains of truth to base their candidate preferences on.

And we especially don't like expressing one particular position in one
particular discussion and having partisans like you extrapolate from
that our entire world.

Swill
--
"Democrats are . . . the party that says government can
make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
out of your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
Bill Steele
2015-07-06 16:48:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
Post by Governor Swill
Just so you'll know, Mr Liberal Gun Owner, I've never registered for
either party and haven't voted for a Republican since 1990. Well, ok,
ONCE. I voted for Guiliani in the 2008 GOP primary.
How does that change anything I said? Your ideas align with a certain
group... whether you think you're a part of it, or not.
By your own logic, you're a radical, right wing, gun nut.
Post by FPP
Republicans can run away from Trump... but if they keep making excuses
for him, they still own everything he says.
Exactly! Thank you!
The GOP has a very hard choice to make and so far they've failed to
make it. They can tell their extreme right wing, libertarian, hate
based voters to fuck off, or the party can die.
They tried to hint to their radicals when they picked off the TP
candidates in the 2014 primaries but they're still letting such as
Trump, Santorum and Huckabee put an (R) after their names.
The thing is, BOTH parties are in trouble. Nationally, the largest
political group in the US isn't the GOP or the Dems, it's the non
aligned voter and in a few states, independents are in the majority.
Obviously most of these independents generally vote for the Dems or
GOP just as party members do, but they have the flexibility to do
otherwise and sometimes they do.
What the wing nuts of both parties have yet to learn is,*they* don't
elect squat. The majority of national elections hang on the swing
votes of 5% or less of the voters - those independents right in the
middle - the so called "swing vote".
That tiny slice of middle, the few million voters who actually do the
electing, doesn't appreciate being labeled "socialist" by right wing
idiots any more than it likes being labeled "fascist" by left wing
freaks. It also doesn't appreciate having to sift throw the deluge of
chaff coming from both sides through the media just to find a few
grains of truth to base their candidate preferences on.
And they base their choices on "Do I like this guy? Is he regular
folks?" and forget that when they elect him they also choose his *party*
to run everything from the EPA to the supreme court.
S***@smack.com
2015-07-06 19:47:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill Steele
Post by Governor Swill
That tiny slice of middle, the few million voters who actually do the
electing, doesn't appreciate being labeled "socialist" by right wing
idiots any more than it likes being labeled "fascist" by left wing
freaks. It also doesn't appreciate having to sift throw the deluge of
chaff coming from both sides through the media just to find a few
grains of truth to base their candidate preferences on.
And they base their choices on "Do I like this guy? Is he regular
folks?" and forget that when they elect him they also choose his *party*
to run everything from the EPA to the supreme court.
a) Wingers using the term "socialist" is why they're ridiculed.
"leftist" is not "socialism"--that's an economic term. SOCIAL POLICY
is the correct definition for the policies connected to democrats
(progressive/liberal) and is only "left" because of the function of
the political scale to compare it to the other morons on the right.

b) Rightwingers ARE fascist by every definition---control by an elite,
amassing wealth by that faction, demeaning others, concentration of
power into fewer and fewer hands, manipulation of most everything to
achieve a goal, influenced by symbols and emotionalism, based on their
belief that god is "on their side".
Post by Bill Steele
==========================================================
"These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s
founding fathers.

Ronald Regan introducing the Mujahideen leaders, 1985).
FPP
2015-07-06 19:40:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
Post by Governor Swill
Just so you'll know, Mr Liberal Gun Owner, I've never registered for
either party and haven't voted for a Republican since 1990. Well, ok,
ONCE. I voted for Guiliani in the 2008 GOP primary.
How does that change anything I said? Your ideas align with a certain
group... whether you think you're a part of it, or not.
By your own logic, you're a radical, right wing, gun nut.
Post by FPP
Republicans can run away from Trump... but if they keep making excuses
for him, they still own everything he says.
Exactly! Thank you!
The GOP has a very hard choice to make and so far they've failed to
make it. They can tell their extreme right wing, libertarian, hate
based voters to fuck off, or the party can die.
They tried to hint to their radicals when they picked off the TP
candidates in the 2014 primaries but they're still letting such as
Trump, Santorum and Huckabee put an (R) after their names.
The thing is, BOTH parties are in trouble. Nationally, the largest
political group in the US isn't the GOP or the Dems, it's the non
aligned voter and in a few states, independents are in the majority.
Obviously most of these independents generally vote for the Dems or
GOP just as party members do, but they have the flexibility to do
otherwise and sometimes they do.
What the wing nuts of both parties have yet to learn is, *they* don't
elect squat. The majority of national elections hang on the swing
votes of 5% or less of the voters - those independents right in the
middle - the so called "swing vote".
That tiny slice of middle, the few million voters who actually do the
electing, doesn't appreciate being labeled "socialist" by right wing
idiots any more than it likes being labeled "fascist" by left wing
freaks. It also doesn't appreciate having to sift throw the deluge of
chaff coming from both sides through the media just to find a few
grains of truth to base their candidate preferences on.
And we especially don't like expressing one particular position in one
particular discussion and having partisans like you extrapolate from
that our entire world.
Swill
Well, when people like Ted Cruz say, when asked for comment: "I SALUTE
Donald Trump..." it DOES make it easier.

I continue to marvel at how tone deaf these guys are. Cruz is no
idiot... Don't they WANT to win?
--
"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." -
Will Rogers
RD Sandman
2015-07-06 16:54:03 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I know that's an awful lot to process while you boys are pissing
yourselves laughing.
It's ok, Fred. We're laughing at *you*.
So long as I can laugh after the elections, that's fine.
I laughed for 4 years after 2008, and I'm laughing for another 4 years
after 2012.
I suspect I'll be laughing until at least 2021... and YOU guys are the JOKE.
Just love how much alike left loons and right loons are - the
assumptions you guys make.
Just so you'll know, Mr Liberal Gun Owner, I've never registered for
either party and haven't voted for a Republican since 1990. Well, ok,
ONCE. I voted for Guiliani in the 2008 GOP primary.
And I was a Democrat until Johnson and Nam.
--
Sleep well tonight.......

RD (The Sandman}

In these days and times, there is really only one race on this planet.
It is called "human". It just comes in many colors and sizes.

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S***@smack.com
2015-07-06 19:35:21 UTC
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On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 11:54:03 -0500, RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
Just so you'll know, Mr Liberal Gun Owner, I've never registered for
either party and haven't voted for a Republican since 1990. Well, ok,
ONCE. I voted for Guiliani in the 2008 GOP primary.
And I was a Democrat until Johnson and Nam.
You mean carrying on the Doctrines that began (or shortly before) in
the Eisenhower administration?
Post by RD Sandman
==========================================================
"These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s
founding fathers.

Ronald Regan introducing the Mujahideen leaders, 1985).
Joe Cooper
2015-07-05 17:29:25 UTC
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Post by Scout
Post by Joe Cooper
I put my Python on the coffee table and ordered it to kill. Waited all day,
but the SOB just sat there...
Apparently your Python isn't well regulated, or it would have obeyed
the command......
:-)
.....maybe you should trade it in on one of those guns that can only kill?
I can't find one. I have three Pythons (2 1/2, 4 and 6" barrels) and two
rifles (M1A and a Winchester 30-30 with an octagon barrel that's heavy in
the field, but extremely accurate and reliable)... I've ordered all of
them to go out and kill, but the obstinate bastards flat refuse.

I've even tried ORDERING the M1A, in my best DI voice, but to no avail.

Maybe I'll pick up a Barrett and see if it will work...
--
"The sad part of this submission to evil is that leftists are abject
cowards and pack animals; stand up to them en masse, and they’ll scatter
like the capons and clucking hens they are. Instead, legitimate freedom
is being lost." (Selwyn Duke)

"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who
didn’t ask for it." (Derek Hunter)

"Liberals never argue with one another over substance; their only dispute
is how to prevent the public from figuring out what they really
believe." (Ann Coulter)
FPP
2015-07-05 20:53:24 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Scout
Post by Joe Cooper
I put my Python on the coffee table and ordered it to kill. Waited all day,
but the SOB just sat there...
Apparently your Python isn't well regulated, or it would have obeyed
the command......
:-)
.....maybe you should trade it in on one of those guns that can only kill?
I can't find one. I have three Pythons (2 1/2, 4 and 6" barrels) and two
rifles (M1A and a Winchester 30-30 with an octagon barrel that's heavy in
the field, but extremely accurate and reliable)... I've ordered all of
them to go out and kill, but the obstinate bastards flat refuse.
I've even tried ORDERING the M1A, in my best DI voice, but to no avail.
Maybe I'll pick up a Barrett and see if it will work...
Try looking directly down the barrel... and cycle a few rounds
through. I've heard that works wonders for a stuffed head.
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FPP
2015-07-03 22:18:36 UTC
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Post by Gray
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 14:54:24 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Gray
Post by Ron White
That's why all the coloreds vote Republican and Fred Oinka is a racist left
wing Pinko.
Apparently you haven't read the news at all over the past a 100 years.
We will never have a truly free society unless guns are permanently banned!
Wrong again. Then we'll be truly enslaved.
You're idiotic.
Don't fall for their propaganda. Guns do kill people.
Naah... guns don't kill people... people kill people.

That's why PEOPLE should have to go through full background checks.

That's why the laws should target (pun intended) people who are buying
the guns.

If you're not a criminal, or criminally insane... you should be able to
buy what you want.
--
“Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who
are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.” ―Twain
Governor Swill
2015-07-03 23:28:40 UTC
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Post by FPP
Naah... guns don't kill people... people kill people.
That's why PEOPLE should have to go through full background checks.
That's why the laws should target (pun intended) people who are buying
the guns.
If you're not a criminal, or criminally insane... you should be able to
buy what you want.
And I'm all for that. Invaders beware! Americans are armed to the
teeth and with no national or even state registries, you'll never be
able to find them all.

Swill
--
"Democrats are . . . the party that says government can
make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
out of your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
S***@smack.com
2015-07-04 00:01:40 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 19:28:40 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
If you're not a criminal, or criminally insane... you should be able to
buy what you want.
And I'm all for that. Invaders beware! Americans are armed to the
teeth and with no national or even state registries, you'll never be
able to find them all.
By smell, most likely.
Post by Governor Swill
==========================================================
"These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s
founding fathers.

Ronald Regan introducing the Mujahideen leaders, 1985).
S***@smack.com
2015-07-04 00:01:14 UTC
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Post by FPP
If you're not a criminal, or criminally insane... you should be able to
buy what you want.
Wow---all conservative gunloons are nuts?
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"These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s
founding fathers.

Ronald Regan introducing the Mujahideen leaders, 1985).
FPP
2015-07-04 06:38:43 UTC
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Post by FPP
If you're not a criminal, or criminally insane... you should be able to
buy what you want.
Wow---all conservative gunloons are nuts?
Post by FPP
==========================================================
"These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s
founding fathers.
Ronald Regan introducing the Mujahideen leaders, 1985).
Well, I've never been either, so I wouldn't know.

I don't think ALL Conservatives gunloons are nuts... but I'm not sure
that all gunloon nuts aren't Conservative.
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benj
2015-07-04 07:28:53 UTC
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Post by FPP
If you're not a criminal, or criminally insane... you should be able to
buy what you want.
Wow---all conservative gunloons are nuts?
Post by FPP
==========================================================
"These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s
founding fathers.
Ronald Regan introducing the Mujahideen leaders, 1985).
Well, I've never been either, so I wouldn't know.
I don't think ALL Conservatives gunloons are nuts... but I'm not sure
that all gunloon nuts aren't Conservative.
Well I'm pretty sure all leftist liberals are nuts, although I'm sure
not all nutjobs are liberals. But Libs have an excellent representation
among the fantasy crowd.
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2015-07-04 10:40:12 UTC
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Post by FPP
If you're not a criminal, or criminally insane... you should be able to
buy what you want.
Wow---all conservative gunloons are nuts?
Post by FPP
==========================================================
"These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s
founding fathers.
Ronald Regan introducing the Mujahideen leaders, 1985).
Well, I've never been either, so I wouldn't know.
I don't think ALL Conservatives gunloons are nuts... but I'm not sure
that all gunloon nuts aren't Conservative.
Well I'm pretty sure all leftist liberals are nuts, although I'm sure
not all nutjobs are liberals. But Libs have an excellent representation
among the fantasy crowd.
You mean unlike Conservatives?

You have Donald Trump sitting at #2 in the polls...

Talk about Fantasyland!
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Joan in GB-W
2015-07-04 19:36:09 UTC
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Post by FPP
If you're not a criminal, or criminally insane... you should be able to
buy what you want.
Wow---all conservative gunloons are nuts?
Post by FPP
==========================================================
"These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s
founding fathers.
Ronald Regan introducing the Mujahideen leaders, 1985).
Well, I've never been either, so I wouldn't know.
I don't think ALL Conservatives gunloons are nuts... but I'm not sure
that all gunloon nuts aren't Conservative.
Well I'm pretty sure all leftist liberals are nuts, although I'm sure not
all nutjobs are liberals. But Libs have an excellent representation among
the fantasy crowd.
You mean unlike Conservatives?

You have Donald Trump sitting at #2 in the polls...

Talk about Fantasyland!
--
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========================================================

And you have the Republicans in Wisconsin voting in the middle of the night
to dismantle the state's open record laws. No other state in the country
has similar legislation.
One Party System
2015-07-05 17:37:41 UTC
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Post by FPP
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Post by FPP
If you're not a criminal, or criminally insane... you should be able to
buy what you want.
Wow---all conservative gunloons are nuts?
Post by FPP
==========================================================
"These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s
founding fathers.
Ronald Regan introducing the Mujahideen leaders, 1985).
Well, I've never been either, so I wouldn't know.
I don't think ALL Conservatives gunloons are nuts... but I'm not sure
that all gunloon nuts aren't Conservative.
Well I'm pretty sure all leftist liberals are nuts, although I'm sure not
all nutjobs are liberals. But Libs have an excellent representation among
the fantasy crowd.
You mean unlike Conservatives?
You have Donald Trump sitting at #2 in the polls...
Talk about Fantasyland!
Yeah. Sanders versus Trump. How ya think that will go?
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Governor Swill
2015-07-05 18:41:46 UTC
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Yeah. Sanders versus Trump. How ya think that will go?
Despite Sanders having formerly run as Mayor as a Socialist. I think
he'd still manage to win.

That said, it doesn't matter. Neither party would want anything to do
with either one of them - they'd be too busy trying to cover
themselves for their next election - and as a result, neither would be
an effective President.

Swill
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out of your lawn.
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talishi
2015-07-04 14:28:29 UTC
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Post by FPP
I don't think ALL Conservatives gunloons are nuts... but I'm not sure
that all gunloon nuts aren't Conservative.
And we've got the first American to die of measles in twelve years
because anti-vaxxers (Michele Bachmann, Rand Paul) are assholes.
Governor Swill
2015-07-04 16:45:55 UTC
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Post by FPP
I don't think ALL Conservatives gunloons are nuts... but I'm not sure
that all gunloon nuts aren't Conservative.
I am. But then, you said, "gunloons" which is not the same as "gun
owners" or "gun enthusiasts" so maybe we just have a confusion in
definitions here.

Swill
--
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make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
out of your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
FPP
2015-07-05 06:31:00 UTC
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Post by FPP
I don't think ALL Conservatives gunloons are nuts... but I'm not sure
that all gunloon nuts aren't Conservative.
I am. But then, you said, "gunloons" which is not the same as "gun
owners" or "gun enthusiasts" so maybe we just have a confusion in
definitions here.
Swill
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one. My
oldest son is another.
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44 Black
Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just took it of
the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my new Klipshs'.)

We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with passing a
background check and waiting 5 days.

Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why I
dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
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FPP
2015-07-05 06:55:51 UTC
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Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44 Black
Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just took it of
the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my new Klipshs'.)
Just put it back... the plaque reads "1858 Remington"... gotta' be accurate.
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RD Sandman
2015-07-05 17:28:47 UTC
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Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44
Black Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just
took it of the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my
new Klipshs'.)
Just put it back... the plaque reads "1858 Remington"... gotta' be accurate.
I found a Remington Model 1875 single action near Deadwood when I was in
the service and visited that area in the late 50s. It was rusty but
restorable. Unfortunately, I sold it......for $50. Damn........
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2015-07-05 20:55:25 UTC
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Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44
Black Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just
took it of the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my
new Klipshs'.)
Just put it back... the plaque reads "1858 Remington"... gotta' be accurate.
I found a Remington Model 1875 single action near Deadwood when I was in
the service and visited that area in the late 50s. It was rusty but
restorable. Unfortunately, I sold it......for $50. Damn........
My father sold a Colt Peacemaker that belonged to my uncle when he was
overseas serving.

He nearly was strangled to death when he gleefully announced that he's
sold my uncle's "old gun" for a whole hundred bucks!
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Jeanne Douglas
2015-07-06 01:51:53 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44
Black Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just
took it of the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my
new Klipshs'.)
Just put it back... the plaque reads "1858 Remington"... gotta' be accurate.
I found a Remington Model 1875 single action near Deadwood when I was in
the service and visited that area in the late 50s. It was rusty but
restorable. Unfortunately, I sold it......for $50. Damn........
My father sold a Colt Peacemaker that belonged to my uncle when he was
overseas serving.
He nearly was strangled to death when he gleefully announced that he's
sold my uncle's "old gun" for a whole hundred bucks!
Oooops!!
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evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.
RD Sandman
2015-07-06 16:58:34 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
Post by FPP
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44
Black Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just
took it of the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging
my new Klipshs'.)
Just put it back... the plaque reads "1858 Remington"... gotta' be accurate.
I found a Remington Model 1875 single action near Deadwood when I was
in the service and visited that area in the late 50s. It was rusty
but restorable. Unfortunately, I sold it......for $50. Damn........
My father sold a Colt Peacemaker that belonged to my uncle when he was
overseas serving.
I currently have a Colt SAA in .44 SPL. It appears to be a 3rd gen. It
goes well with my United Sporting Arms Sheriff's Model in .44 Mag and my
Ruger three screw Blackhawk in .44 Spl.
He nearly was strangled to death when he gleefully announced that he's
sold my uncle's "old gun" for a whole hundred bucks!
Hmmmm, I paid $150 for the SAA. The guy needed money. Oh, well.......
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2015-07-05 17:22:21 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I don't think ALL Conservatives gunloons are nuts... but I'm not
sure that all gunloon nuts aren't Conservative.
I am. But then, you said, "gunloons" which is not the same as "gun
owners" or "gun enthusiasts" so maybe we just have a confusion in
definitions here.
Swill
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one. My
oldest son is another.
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44
Black Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just took
it of the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my new
Klipshs'.)
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with passing a
background check and waiting 5 days.
I have had several background checks but have never waited more than a
few minutes to walk out with the gun I just bought.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why I
dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
They failed to send you a renewal......tsk tsk.
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Governor Swill
2015-07-05 18:46:42 UTC
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Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one. My
oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally and
had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44 Black
Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just took it of
the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my new Klipshs'.)
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with passing a
background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why I
dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and see
no reason why anybody should.

That said, the Sandy Hook shooter broke into his mom's guns, killed
her and then went to the school.

The Columbine killers bought weapons over the Internet.

Swill
--
"Democrats are . . . the party that says government can
make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
out of your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
FPP
2015-07-05 20:57:25 UTC
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Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one. My
oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally and
had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44 Black
Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just took it of
the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my new Klipshs'.)
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with passing a
background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why I
dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and see
no reason why anybody should.
That said, the Sandy Hook shooter broke into his mom's guns, killed
her and then went to the school.
The Columbine killers bought weapons over the Internet.
Swill
We'll never know how many deaths were prevented by things like
background checks and waiting periods.

The same as we'll never know how many people didn't get killed by
following ANY laws.
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out. -Dawkins
Governor Swill
2015-07-06 01:36:03 UTC
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Post by FPP
We'll never know how many deaths were prevented by things like
background checks and waiting periods.
Thus my willingness to support waiting periods. At the very least in
turns a crime of passion into premeditation which carries a longer
sentence.

Swill
--
"Democrats are . . . the party that says government can
make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
out of your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
Scout
2015-07-06 02:44:20 UTC
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Post by FPP
We'll never know how many deaths were prevented by things like
background checks and waiting periods.
Thus my willingness to support waiting periods. At the very least in
turns a crime of passion into premeditation which carries a longer
sentence.
Really?

So tell me, how many innocent people are you willing to allow to be murdered
because you would deny them the best means of self defense?

Oh and going out to buy a gun to murder someone, with or without waiting
periods, is NOT a crime of passion, but premeditation in all cases.

So what have you gained? It's already premeditation, and a waiting period
isn't going to stop them or alter their objective to kill.....it simply
insures that victims who know of or suspect the threat exists will be unable
to act to get the means of defense they desperately need.

We have the recent example of Carol Bowne who tried for months to get the
firearm that might have saved her life.....only to be stabbed to death in
her own driveway. Restraining orders, the police, they didn't stop it. They
couldn't stop it. She may have been able to, but the waiting period
prevented it.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419400/deadly-consequences-draconian-gun-laws-charles-c-w-cooke

So tell me, how many people are you willing to allow to die in the vain hope
that somehow a waiting period will prevent the murderer from being able to
kill?
FPP
2015-07-06 04:25:55 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
We'll never know how many deaths were prevented by things like
background checks and waiting periods.
Thus my willingness to support waiting periods. At the very least in
turns a crime of passion into premeditation which carries a longer
sentence.
Really?
So tell me, how many innocent people are you willing to allow to be
murdered because you would deny them the best means of self defense?
Oh and going out to buy a gun to murder someone, with or without
waiting periods, is NOT a crime of passion, but premeditation in all
cases.
So what have you gained? It's already premeditation, and a waiting
period isn't going to stop them or alter their objective to kill.....it
simply insures that victims who know of or suspect the threat exists
will be unable to act to get the means of defense they desperately need.
We have the recent example of Carol Bowne who tried for months to get
the firearm that might have saved her life.....only to be stabbed to
death in her own driveway. Restraining orders, the police, they didn't
stop it. They couldn't stop it. She may have been able to, but the
waiting period prevented it.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419400/deadly-consequences-draconian-gun-laws-charles-c-w-cooke
So
Post by Jeanne Douglas
tell me, how many people are you willing to allow to die in the vain
hope that somehow a waiting period will prevent the murderer from being
able to kill?
Nobody is denying anybody anything.

That's like saying how many 12 year olds are denied having a job
because they can'd drive.

What state has a months long waiting period?
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else. -M Mead
Governor Swill
2015-07-06 15:17:15 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
We'll never know how many deaths were prevented by things like
background checks and waiting periods.
Thus my willingness to support waiting periods. At the very least in
turns a crime of passion into premeditation which carries a longer
sentence.
Really?
It's really annoying when somebody responds but cuts the group list so
the poster they've replied to doesn't have the chance to respond back.

It's an old trick some posters use to make themselves look good. "See,
he didn't respond to me. He's given up on the discussion. I WIN!"
Post by FPP
Post by Jeanne Douglas
So tell me, how many innocent people are you willing to allow to be
murdered because you would deny them the best means of self defense?
And how many innocent people are you willing to see murdered because
they ran down to Kmart, bought a gun and went back to their argument
and shot somebody?

This is what waiting periods are designed to do - reduce the incidence
of murders of passion - provide a cooling off period.

You have many times pointed out that the vast majority of gun deaths
are homicides (and you would be wrong - check with Sandman) committed
by friends and family members, yet you would remove the one tool we
have for exerting some control over such crimes.

I also have to wonder what goes on in the mind of a man who thinks
weapons should be easier to get than alcohol or pain medication.
Post by FPP
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Oh and going out to buy a gun to murder someone, with or without
waiting periods, is NOT a crime of passion, but premeditation in all
cases.
Bullshit, worse, you know it's bullshit. That's why there are,
generally, three degrees of murder recognized by law. First degree
which requires proof of premeditation, second degree which is a "crime
of passion" - temporary insanity pleas are also found here - and
third degree, usually considered 'manslaughter' where death was due to
negligence or culpable accident.
Post by FPP
Post by Jeanne Douglas
So what have you gained? It's already premeditation, and a waiting
period isn't going to stop them or alter their objective to kill.....it
simply insures that victims who know of or suspect the threat exists
will be unable to act to get the means of defense they desperately need.
I can ignore this paragraph since it's based on faulty premises.
Post by FPP
Post by Jeanne Douglas
We have the recent example of Carol Bowne who tried for months to get
the firearm that might have saved her life.....only to be stabbed to
death in her own driveway. Restraining orders, the police, they didn't
stop it. They couldn't stop it. She may have been able to, but the
waiting period prevented it.
<http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419400/deadly-consequences-draconian-gun-laws-charles-c-w-cooke>
"Defending his tardiness, the local police chief explained that the
application process usually takes more than two months, and that when
Browne died, his team was still waiting for her fingerprints to be
processed. Perhaps so. But this should serve as no acceptable excuse.
By state law, New Jersey is required to get back to permit petitioners
within 30 days. It didn't."

Which is ridiculous. The police chief ought to be charged with
manslaughter and this case should spark acceleration of changing the
New Jersey law. It won't but it should.

Of course, you wouldn't know that was my position had Fred not
restored the newsgroups so I could see the post you hid. Planning to
hide this one too? I post from alt.politics.republicans and
alt.politics.democrats. When you trim, leave those in so you can't
unjustly claim I failed to respond. Your readers can check the
headers, or just click "reply" to see of those groups are still listed
in your reply.
Post by FPP
So
Post by Jeanne Douglas
tell me, how many people are you willing to allow to die in the vain
hope that somehow a waiting period will prevent the murderer from being
able to kill?
I don't think a 5 or 7 day waiting period is unreasonable. That
lying, murdering, sack of shit police chief in New Jersey knows full
well he can get fingerprint results back from the FBI in less time
than it takes to eat a donut. And we all know that technology now
allows for instant background checks.
Post by FPP
Nobody is denying anybody anything.
That's like saying how many 12 year olds are denied having a job
because they can'd drive.
What state has a months long waiting period?
New Jersey, apparently.

"Defending his tardiness, the local police chief explained that the
application process usually takes more than two months, and that when
Browne died, his team was still waiting for her fingerprints to be
processed. Perhaps so. But this should serve as no acceptable excuse.
By state law, New Jersey is required to get back to permit petitioners
within 30 days. It didn't."

Note: "get back to permit petitioners within 30 days," means the
*first step* in getting a New Jersey permit takes a month. And, "the
application process usually takes more than two months."

Swill
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make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
out of your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
FPP
2015-07-06 19:47:28 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
We'll never know how many deaths were prevented by things like
background checks and waiting periods.
Thus my willingness to support waiting periods. At the very least in
turns a crime of passion into premeditation which carries a longer
sentence.
Really?
It's really annoying when somebody responds but cuts the group list so
the poster they've replied to doesn't have the chance to respond back.
It's an old trick some posters use to make themselves look good. "See,
he didn't respond to me. He's given up on the discussion. I WIN!"
Post by FPP
Post by Jeanne Douglas
So tell me, how many innocent people are you willing to allow to be
murdered because you would deny them the best means of self defense?
And how many innocent people are you willing to see murdered because
they ran down to Kmart, bought a gun and went back to their argument
and shot somebody?
This is what waiting periods are designed to do - reduce the incidence
of murders of passion - provide a cooling off period.
You have many times pointed out that the vast majority of gun deaths
are homicides (and you would be wrong - check with Sandman) committed
by friends and family members, yet you would remove the one tool we
have for exerting some control over such crimes.
I also have to wonder what goes on in the mind of a man who thinks
weapons should be easier to get than alcohol or pain medication.
Post by FPP
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Oh and going out to buy a gun to murder someone, with or without
waiting periods, is NOT a crime of passion, but premeditation in all
cases.
Bullshit, worse, you know it's bullshit. That's why there are,
generally, three degrees of murder recognized by law. First degree
which requires proof of premeditation, second degree which is a "crime
of passion" - temporary insanity pleas are also found here - and
third degree, usually considered 'manslaughter' where death was due to
negligence or culpable accident.
Post by FPP
Post by Jeanne Douglas
So what have you gained? It's already premeditation, and a waiting
period isn't going to stop them or alter their objective to kill.....it
simply insures that victims who know of or suspect the threat exists
will be unable to act to get the means of defense they desperately need.
I can ignore this paragraph since it's based on faulty premises.
Post by FPP
Post by Jeanne Douglas
We have the recent example of Carol Bowne who tried for months to get
the firearm that might have saved her life.....only to be stabbed to
death in her own driveway. Restraining orders, the police, they didn't
stop it. They couldn't stop it. She may have been able to, but the
waiting period prevented it.
<http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419400/deadly-consequences-draconian-gun-laws-charles-c-w-cooke>
"Defending
Post by Governor Swill
his tardiness, the local police chief explained that the
application process usually takes more than two months, and that when
Browne died, his team was still waiting for her fingerprints to be
processed. Perhaps so. But this should serve as no acceptable excuse.
By state law, New Jersey is required to get back to permit petitioners
within 30 days. It didn't."
Which is ridiculous. The police chief ought to be charged with
manslaughter and this case should spark acceleration of changing the
New Jersey law. It won't but it should.
Of course, you wouldn't know that was my position had Fred not
restored the newsgroups so I could see the post you hid. Planning to
hide this one too? I post from alt.politics.republicans and
alt.politics.democrats. When you trim, leave those in so you can't
unjustly claim I failed to respond. Your readers can check the
headers, or just click "reply" to see of those groups are still listed
in your reply.
Post by FPP
So
Post by Jeanne Douglas
tell me, how many people are you willing to allow to die in the vain
hope that somehow a waiting period will prevent the murderer from being
able to kill?
I don't think a 5 or 7 day waiting period is unreasonable. That
lying, murdering, sack of shit police chief in New Jersey knows full
well he can get fingerprint results back from the FBI in less time
than it takes to eat a donut. And we all know that technology now
allows for instant background checks.
Post by FPP
Nobody is denying anybody anything.
That's like saying how many 12 year olds are denied having a job
because they can'd drive.
What state has a months long waiting period?
New Jersey, apparently.
"Defending his tardiness, the local police chief explained that the
application process usually takes more than two months, and that when
Browne died, his team was still waiting for her fingerprints to be
processed. Perhaps so. But this should serve as no acceptable excuse.
By state law, New Jersey is required to get back to permit petitioners
within 30 days. It didn't."
Note: "get back to permit petitioners within 30 days," means the
*first step* in getting a New Jersey permit takes a month. And, "the
application process usually takes more than two months."
Swill
As far as Jersey is concerned... making people wait to obtain a permit
to even start the buying process is plain stupid.

Too bad they don't have a pro-gun Governor who could take care of this.
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RD Sandman
2015-07-06 16:37:51 UTC
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Post by FPP
On 2015-07-06 02:44:20 +0000, "Scout"
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
We'll never know how many deaths were prevented by things like
background checks and waiting periods.
Thus my willingness to support waiting periods. At the very least
in turns a crime of passion into premeditation which carries a
longer sentence.
Really?
So tell me, how many innocent people are you willing to allow to be
murdered because you would deny them the best means of self defense?
Oh and going out to buy a gun to murder someone, with or without
waiting periods, is NOT a crime of passion, but premeditation in all
cases.
So what have you gained? It's already premeditation, and a waiting
period isn't going to stop them or alter their objective to
kill.....it simply insures that victims who know of or suspect the
threat exists will be unable to act to get the means of defense they
desperately need.
We have the recent example of Carol Bowne who tried for months to get
the firearm that might have saved her life.....only to be stabbed to
death in her own driveway. Restraining orders, the police, they
didn't stop it. They couldn't stop it. She may have been able to, but
the waiting period prevented it.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419400/deadly-consequences-draco
nian-gun-laws-charles-c-w-cooke
So
Post by Jeanne Douglas
tell me, how many people are you willing to allow to die in the vain
hope that somehow a waiting period will prevent the murderer from
being able to kill?
Nobody is denying anybody anything.
Obviously, you don't know Carol Brown's story.

http://tinyurl.com/nqlsznm
Post by FPP
That's like saying how many 12 year olds are denied having a job
because they can'd drive.
What state has a months long waiting period?
She was in New Jersey and it was a permit to own a gun.
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2015-07-06 16:31:54 UTC
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On 2015-07-05 18:46:42 +0000, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one. My
oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally and
had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44
Black Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just
took it of the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my
new Klipshs'.)
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with passing
a background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why I
dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and
see no reason why anybody should.
That said, the Sandy Hook shooter broke into his mom's guns, killed
her and then went to the school.
The Columbine killers bought weapons over the Internet.
Swill
We'll never know how many deaths were prevented by things like
background checks and waiting periods.
Apparently not very many. During the years 2006 - 2010, there were
34,303,069 applications for a firearms purchase. There were 470,583
denials (1.37%). Of those denials, 377,283 were referred to ATF field
divisions for further investigation. 818 of those were referred for
federal prosecution. Of the 818, there were only 209 guilty pleas or
verdicts or 0.044% of the denials (209/470,583).
The same as we'll never know how many people didn't get killed by
following ANY laws.
Negatives are very difficult to prove. ;)
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2015-07-06 19:32:30 UTC
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On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 11:31:54 -0500, RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
Post by FPP
The same as we'll never know how many people didn't get killed by
following ANY laws.
Negatives are very difficult to prove. ;)
So---are you saying you agree that the thousands of unproven
allegations, insinuations, innuendo, conjecture, rumors, theories,
stories and lies that your party (or facimile thereof) began to use as
facts/truth after the defeat of the "raygun revolution" are merely
"negatives" and cannot be associated with good policy?
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FPP
2015-07-06 19:53:55 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
On 2015-07-05 18:46:42 +0000, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one. My
oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally and
had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44
Black Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just
took it of the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my
new Klipshs'.)
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with passing
a background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why I
dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and
see no reason why anybody should.
That said, the Sandy Hook shooter broke into his mom's guns, killed
her and then went to the school.
The Columbine killers bought weapons over the Internet.
Swill
We'll never know how many deaths were prevented by things like
background checks and waiting periods.
Apparently not very many. During the years 2006 - 2010, there were
34,303,069 applications for a firearms purchase. There were 470,583
denials (1.37%). Of those denials, 377,283 were referred to ATF field
divisions for further investigation. 818 of those were referred for
federal prosecution. Of the 818, there were only 209 guilty pleas or
verdicts or 0.044% of the denials (209/470,583).
The same as we'll never know how many people didn't get killed by
following ANY laws.
Negatives are very difficult to prove. ;)
37,000 people who needed further investigation, and 818 people who
shouldn't have a gun. By law.

Well, everybody is up in arms (pun intended) over one death... but are
ignoring 818 potential deaths that were avoided by having the checks.

The fact that 209 were confirmed ineligible speaks volumes as to the
effectiveness of checks.

I think preventing 818 Dylan Roofs' or even only 209 Jared Loughners'
would be reason enough to justify background checks.

Especially since ONE Carol Brown is enough to send people apoplectic.
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RD Sandman
2015-07-06 20:11:17 UTC
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On 2015-07-06 16:31:54 +0000, RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
On 2015-07-05 18:46:42 +0000, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one.
My oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally
and had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44
Black Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just
took it of the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging
my new Klipshs'.)
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with
passing a background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why
I dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and
see no reason why anybody should.
That said, the Sandy Hook shooter broke into his mom's guns, killed
her and then went to the school.
The Columbine killers bought weapons over the Internet.
Swill
We'll never know how many deaths were prevented by things like
background checks and waiting periods.
Apparently not very many. During the years 2006 - 2010, there were
34,303,069 applications for a firearms purchase. There were 470,583
denials (1.37%). Of those denials, 377,283 were referred to ATF
field divisions for further investigation. 818 of those were
referred for federal prosecution. Of the 818, there were only 209
guilty pleas or verdicts or 0.044% of the denials (209/470,583).
The same as we'll never know how many people didn't get killed by
following ANY laws.
Negatives are very difficult to prove. ;)
37,000 people who needed further investigation, and 818 people who
shouldn't have a gun. By law.
Not necessarily. You would have to see the actual disposition of the
case to know the true number.
Well, everybody is up in arms (pun intended) over one death... but are
ignoring 818 potential deaths that were avoided by having the checks.
Possibly.
The fact that 209 were confirmed ineligible speaks volumes as to the
effectiveness of checks.
Out of over 34 million.....that is a poor percentage but, yes, even the
loss of one innocent life is a tragedy. And we lose well over 100,000
per year through medical errors in hospitals and under doctor's care.
I think preventing 818 Dylan Roofs' or even only 209 Jared Loughners'
would be reason enough to justify background checks.
Except Dylan Roof and Jared Loughner both passed their checks. As did
Holmes in Aurora, Cho in Virginia Tech, Hasan and Lopez at Ft Hood,
Alexis at the Washington Naval Yard.....
Especially since ONE Carol Brown is enough to send people apoplectic.
In Carol Brown's case, her boy toy was under a restraining order and was
a known criminal. I see two faults there. Her, for hooking up with this
dude and the state for dilly-dallying around.
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FPP
2015-07-06 20:27:05 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
On 2015-07-06 16:31:54 +0000, RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
On 2015-07-05 18:46:42 +0000, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one.
My oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally
and had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44
Black Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just
took it of the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging
my new Klipshs'.)
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with
passing a background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why
I dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and
see no reason why anybody should.
That said, the Sandy Hook shooter broke into his mom's guns, killed
her and then went to the school.
The Columbine killers bought weapons over the Internet.
Swill
We'll never know how many deaths were prevented by things like
background checks and waiting periods.
Apparently not very many. During the years 2006 - 2010, there were
34,303,069 applications for a firearms purchase. There were 470,583
denials (1.37%). Of those denials, 377,283 were referred to ATF
field divisions for further investigation. 818 of those were
referred for federal prosecution. Of the 818, there were only 209
guilty pleas or verdicts or 0.044% of the denials (209/470,583).
The same as we'll never know how many people didn't get killed by
following ANY laws.
Negatives are very difficult to prove. ;)
37,000 people who needed further investigation, and 818 people who
shouldn't have a gun. By law.
Not necessarily. You would have to see the actual disposition of the
case to know the true number.
Well, everybody is up in arms (pun intended) over one death... but are
ignoring 818 potential deaths that were avoided by having the checks.
Possibly.
The fact that 209 were confirmed ineligible speaks volumes as to the
effectiveness of checks.
Out of over 34 million.....that is a poor percentage but, yes, even the
loss of one innocent life is a tragedy. And we lose well over 100,000
per year through medical errors in hospitals and under doctor's care.
I think preventing 818 Dylan Roofs' or even only 209 Jared Loughners'
would be reason enough to justify background checks.
Except Dylan Roof and Jared Loughner both passed their checks. As did
Holmes in Aurora, Cho in Virginia Tech, Hasan and Lopez at Ft Hood,
Alexis at the Washington Naval Yard.....
Especially since ONE Carol Brown is enough to send people apoplectic.
In Carol Brown's case, her boy toy was under a restraining order and was
a known criminal. I see two faults there. Her, for hooking up with this
dude and the state for dilly-dallying around.
I bought my first gun after a mother and her 2 young daughters were
murdered in their home by an unknown assailant. (He's still in prison,
even though he was only given about 4 years to serve back in the early
80's.)

I was working nights, and my wife was at home, pregnant with our first child.

We both took the required courses an got a gun about a week later. Not
for anything... but I would have obtained one illegally if we'd had to
wait a month.
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Jeanne Douglas
2015-07-06 01:54:21 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one. My
oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally and
had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44 Black
Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just took it of
the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my new Klipshs'.)
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with passing a
background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why I
dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and see
no reason why anybody should.
That's why 90% of the American people wanted that. The cowardice of
those in Congress who went with what the NRA wanted instead of what the
people wanted will live in ignominy (was gonna say infamy but that term
is already taken for another tragedy; thank gawd for the wonderfulness
of the English language).
Post by Governor Swill
That said, the Sandy Hook shooter broke into his mom's guns, killed
her and then went to the school.
The Columbine killers bought weapons over the Internet.
Which is COMPLETELY insane.
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Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider
evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.
Scout
2015-07-06 02:52:43 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one. My
oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally and
had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44 Black
Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just took it of
the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my new Klipshs'.)
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with passing a
background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why I
dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and see
no reason why anybody should.
That's why 90% of the American people wanted that. The cowardice of
those in Congress who went with what the NRA wanted instead of what the
people wanted will live in ignominy (was gonna say infamy but that term
is already taken for another tragedy; thank gawd for the wonderfulness
of the English language).
Bonnie Elmasri
On March 5, 1991 Bonnie Elmasri called a firearms instructor, worried that
her husband-who was subject to a restraining order to stay away from her-had
been threatening her and her children. When she asked the instructor about
getting a handgun, the instructor explained that Wisconsin has a 48-hour
waiting period. Ms. Elmasri and her two children were murdered by her
husband twenty-four hours later.

Care to tell her that there is no reason why she should have been able to
buy the gun that could have saved her and her children's lives?

Then we have the recent case in NJ, after waiting for months to get the
permit.....she was stabbed to death on her driveway. Yea, I'm sure there was
absolutely NO reason why she should have been able to buy a gun without
having to wait for months......
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
That said, the Sandy Hook shooter broke into his mom's guns, killed
her and then went to the school.
The Columbine killers bought weapons over the Internet.
Which is COMPLETELY insane.
It certainly is, since it's nothing but a lie.

Even the VPC says they bought the guns directly from the sellers.
FPP
2015-07-06 04:29:09 UTC
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On 2015-07-06 02:52:43 +0000, "Scout"
Post by Scout
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one. My
oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally and
had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44 Black
Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just took it of
the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my new Klipshs'.)
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with passing a
background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why I
dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and see
no reason why anybody should.
That's why 90% of the American people wanted that. The cowardice of
those in Congress who went with what the NRA wanted instead of what the
people wanted will live in ignominy (was gonna say infamy but that term
is already taken for another tragedy; thank gawd for the wonderfulness
of the English language).
Bonnie Elmasri
On March 5, 1991 Bonnie Elmasri called a firearms instructor, worried
that her husband-who was subject to a restraining order to stay away
from her-had been threatening her and her children. When she asked the
instructor about getting a handgun, the instructor explained that
Wisconsin has a 48-hour waiting period. Ms. Elmasri and her two
children were murdered by her husband twenty-four hours later.
Care to tell her that there is no reason why she should have been able
to buy the gun that could have saved her and her children's lives?
Because the guy who decides that he wants to kill his neighbor for
playing the stereo too loud needs the time to cool down.

Because the mentally ill guy whose cat told him to kill the mailman
shouldn't get a gun at all.
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2015-07-06 15:21:26 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by Scout
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one. My
oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally and
had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44 Black
Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just took it of
the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my new Klipshs'.)
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with passing a
background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why I
dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and see
no reason why anybody should.
That's why 90% of the American people wanted that. The cowardice of
those in Congress who went with what the NRA wanted instead of what the
people wanted will live in ignominy (was gonna say infamy but that term
is already taken for another tragedy; thank gawd for the wonderfulness
of the English language).
Bonnie Elmasri
On March 5, 1991 Bonnie Elmasri called a firearms instructor, worried
that her husband-who was subject to a restraining order to stay away
from her-had been threatening her and her children. When she asked the
instructor about getting a handgun, the instructor explained that
Wisconsin has a 48-hour waiting period. Ms. Elmasri and her two
children were murdered by her husband twenty-four hours later.
I wonder if his instructor told him about that call? Seems
coincidental at the very least that he killed her before she could get
a gun and just after she started to ask (a presumably qualified
person) about it.
Post by FPP
Post by Scout
Care to tell her that there is no reason why she should have been able
to buy the gun that could have saved her and her children's lives?
Because the guy who decides that he wants to kill his neighbor for
playing the stereo too loud needs the time to cool down.
Because the mentally ill guy whose cat told him to kill the mailman
shouldn't get a gun at all.
Well put. Probably won't do much for the suicide rate though.

Swill
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FPP
2015-07-06 19:56:13 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
Post by Scout
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one. My
oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally and
had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44 Black
Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just took it of
the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my new Klipshs'.)
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with passing a
background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why I
dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and see
no reason why anybody should.
That's why 90% of the American people wanted that. The cowardice of
those in Congress who went with what the NRA wanted instead of what the
people wanted will live in ignominy (was gonna say infamy but that term
is already taken for another tragedy; thank gawd for the wonderfulness
of the English language).
Bonnie Elmasri
On March 5, 1991 Bonnie Elmasri called a firearms instructor, worried
that her husband-who was subject to a restraining order to stay away
from her-had been threatening her and her children. When she asked the
instructor about getting a handgun, the instructor explained that
Wisconsin has a 48-hour waiting period. Ms. Elmasri and her two
children were murdered by her husband twenty-four hours later.
I wonder if his instructor told him about that call? Seems
coincidental at the very least that he killed her before she could get
a gun and just after she started to ask (a presumably qualified
person) about it.
Post by FPP
Post by Scout
Care to tell her that there is no reason why she should have been able
to buy the gun that could have saved her and her children's lives?
Because the guy who decides that he wants to kill his neighbor for
playing the stereo too loud needs the time to cool down.
Because the mentally ill guy whose cat told him to kill the mailman
shouldn't get a gun at all.
Well put. Probably won't do much for the suicide rate though.
Swill
At least suicide doesn't put MY family at risk.

People who truly want to kill themselves will always find a way. It's
not hard... you can do it with a car and a garage. Or a bottle of
Tylenol.
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Conservatives hate socialism and they only believe in some elements of it.
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2015-07-06 20:02:08 UTC
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On 2015-07-06 15:21:26 +0000, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
Post by Scout
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one.
My oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally
and had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington
.44 Black Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece.
(Just took it of the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was
hanging my new Klipshs'.) We shoot all the time... and we've
never had a problem with passing a background check and waiting
5 days. Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles...
It's why I dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period
and see no reason why anybody should.
That's why 90% of the American people wanted that. The cowardice
of those in Congress who went with what the NRA wanted instead of
what the people wanted will live in ignominy (was gonna say infamy
but that term is already taken for another tragedy; thank gawd for
the wonderfulness of the English language).
Bonnie Elmasri
On March 5, 1991 Bonnie Elmasri called a firearms instructor,
worried that her husband-who was subject to a restraining order to
stay away from her-had been threatening her and her children. When
she asked the instructor about getting a handgun, the instructor
explained that Wisconsin has a 48-hour waiting period. Ms. Elmasri
and her two children were murdered by her husband twenty-four hours
later.
I wonder if his instructor told him about that call? Seems
coincidental at the very least that he killed her before she could
get a gun and just after she started to ask (a presumably qualified
person) about it.
Post by FPP
Post by Scout
Care to tell her that there is no reason why she should have been
able to buy the gun that could have saved her and her children's
lives?
Because the guy who decides that he wants to kill his neighbor for
playing the stereo too loud needs the time to cool down.
Because the mentally ill guy whose cat told him to kill the mailman
shouldn't get a gun at all.
Well put. Probably won't do much for the suicide rate though.
Swill
At least suicide doesn't put MY family at risk.
Unless it is one of your family that wants to check (it) out.
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2015-07-06 20:27:55 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
On 2015-07-06 15:21:26 +0000, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
Post by Scout
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one.
My oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally
and had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington
.44 Black Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece.
(Just took it of the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was
hanging my new Klipshs'.) We shoot all the time... and we've
never had a problem with passing a background check and waiting
5 days. Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles...
It's why I dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period
and see no reason why anybody should.
That's why 90% of the American people wanted that. The cowardice
of those in Congress who went with what the NRA wanted instead of
what the people wanted will live in ignominy (was gonna say infamy
but that term is already taken for another tragedy; thank gawd for
the wonderfulness of the English language).
Bonnie Elmasri
On March 5, 1991 Bonnie Elmasri called a firearms instructor,
worried that her husband-who was subject to a restraining order to
stay away from her-had been threatening her and her children. When
she asked the instructor about getting a handgun, the instructor
explained that Wisconsin has a 48-hour waiting period. Ms. Elmasri
and her two children were murdered by her husband twenty-four hours
later.
I wonder if his instructor told him about that call? Seems
coincidental at the very least that he killed her before she could
get a gun and just after she started to ask (a presumably qualified
person) about it.
Post by FPP
Post by Scout
Care to tell her that there is no reason why she should have been
able to buy the gun that could have saved her and her children's
lives?
Because the guy who decides that he wants to kill his neighbor for
playing the stereo too loud needs the time to cool down.
Because the mentally ill guy whose cat told him to kill the mailman
shouldn't get a gun at all.
Well put. Probably won't do much for the suicide rate though.
Swill
At least suicide doesn't put MY family at risk.
Unless it is one of your family that wants to check (it) out.
Well, if they did... I'd kill 'em for it. :-)
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RD Sandman
2015-07-06 16:49:23 UTC
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Post by FPP
On 2015-07-06 02:52:43 +0000, "Scout"
Post by Scout
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one.
My oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally
and had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44
Black Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just
took it of the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging
my new Klipshs'.)
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with
passing a background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why
I dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and
see no reason why anybody should.
That's why 90% of the American people wanted that. The cowardice of
those in Congress who went with what the NRA wanted instead of what
the people wanted will live in ignominy (was gonna say infamy but
that term is already taken for another tragedy; thank gawd for the
wonderfulness of the English language).
Bonnie Elmasri
On March 5, 1991 Bonnie Elmasri called a firearms instructor, worried
that her husband-who was subject to a restraining order to stay away
from her-had been threatening her and her children. When she asked
the instructor about getting a handgun, the instructor explained that
Wisconsin has a 48-hour waiting period. Ms. Elmasri and her two
children were murdered by her husband twenty-four hours later.
Care to tell her that there is no reason why she should have been
able to buy the gun that could have saved her and her children's
lives?
Because the guy who decides that he wants to kill his neighbor for
playing the stereo too loud needs the time to cool down.
And just how often does that occur? Keep in mind that all stated do not
have waiting periods so there should be some data out there.
Post by FPP
Because the mentally ill guy whose cat told him to kill the mailman
shouldn't get a gun at all.
I have had cats for years and none of them ever told me to go out and
kill anyone. Of course, neither did my neighbor's dog or my Rice
Krispies. Yours?
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2015-07-06 19:33:43 UTC
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On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 11:49:23 -0500, RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
Post by FPP
Because the mentally ill guy whose cat told him to kill the mailman
shouldn't get a gun at all.
I have had cats for years and none of them ever told me to go out and
kill anyone. Of course, neither did my neighbor's dog or my Rice
Krispies. Yours?
THen you should be able to explain WHY the 2nd amendment was demanded
by "states" before they'd ratify the constitution.

(and had nothing to do with the present "interpretation of today)
Post by RD Sandman
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"These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s
founding fathers.

Ronald Regan introducing the Mujahideen leaders, 1985).
FPP
2015-07-06 20:02:37 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
Post by FPP
Because the guy who decides that he wants to kill his neighbor for
playing the stereo too loud needs the time to cool down.
And just how often does that occur? Keep in mind that all stated do not
have waiting periods so there should be some data out there.
Post by FPP
Because the mentally ill guy whose cat told him to kill the mailman
shouldn't get a gun at all.
I have had cats for years and none of them ever told me to go out and
kill anyone. Of course, neither did my neighbor's dog or my Rice
Krispies. Yours?
We just had a conviction where a shooter killed a black teen because he
was playing the stereo too loud at a convenience store.
It was in all the papers...
Post by RD Sandman
Florida man gets life in prison for killing teen over loud music.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/florida-man-life-prison-killing-teen-loud-music-article-1.1978021

And,

as for your second statement - well... you just don't know cats well enough.
Post by RD Sandman
Ryan Reynolds’ cat tells him to kill people in the first trailer for The Voices
http://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/ryan-reynolds-cat-tells-kill-people-first-trailer-voices/
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2015-07-06 20:14:41 UTC
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On 2015-07-06 16:49:23 +0000, RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
Post by FPP
Because the guy who decides that he wants to kill his neighbor for
playing the stereo too loud needs the time to cool down.
And just how often does that occur? Keep in mind that all stated do
not have waiting periods so there should be some data out there.
Post by FPP
Because the mentally ill guy whose cat told him to kill the mailman
shouldn't get a gun at all.
I have had cats for years and none of them ever told me to go out and
kill anyone. Of course, neither did my neighbor's dog or my Rice
Krispies. Yours?
We just had a conviction where a shooter killed a black teen because
he was playing the stereo too loud at a convenience store.
It was in all the papers...
Not mine, here. However, what is your point? Should we address all guns
and ban them or imprison all black teens who play their stereo too loud?
Post by RD Sandman
Florida man gets life in prison for killing teen over loud music.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/florida-man-life-prison-killing-t
een-loud-music-article-1.1978021
And,
as for your second statement - well... you just don't know cats well enough.
I think I do. Mine are all affectionate and don't eat the neighbor's
canaries.
Post by RD Sandman
Ryan Reynolds’ cat tells him to kill people in the first trailer
for The Voices
http://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/ryan-reynolds-cat-tells-kill-people
-first-trailer-voices/
Interesting.....I don't hear voices......do you?
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FPP
2015-07-06 20:34:04 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
On 2015-07-06 16:49:23 +0000, RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
Post by FPP
Because the guy who decides that he wants to kill his neighbor for
playing the stereo too loud needs the time to cool down.
And just how often does that occur? Keep in mind that all stated do
not have waiting periods so there should be some data out there.
Post by FPP
Because the mentally ill guy whose cat told him to kill the mailman
shouldn't get a gun at all.
I have had cats for years and none of them ever told me to go out and
kill anyone. Of course, neither did my neighbor's dog or my Rice
Krispies. Yours?
We just had a conviction where a shooter killed a black teen because
he was playing the stereo too loud at a convenience store.
It was in all the papers...
Not mine, here. However, what is your point? Should we address all guns
and ban them or imprison all black teens who play their stereo too loud?
Post by RD Sandman
Florida man gets life in prison for killing teen over loud music.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/florida-man-life-prison-killing-t
een-loud-music-article-1.1978021
And,
as for your second statement - well... you just don't know cats well enough.
I think I do. Mine are all affectionate and don't eat the neighbor's
canaries.
Post by RD Sandman
Ryan Reynolds’ cat tells him to kill people in the first trailer for The Voices
http://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/ryan-reynolds-cat-tells-kill-people
-first-trailer-voices/
Interesting.....I don't hear voices......do you?
All the time. Unless you're deaf, they're everywhere.

And your cats have you trained well...
Post by RD Sandman
“Owners of dogs will have noticed that, if you provide them with food
and water and shelter and affection, they will think YOU are God."
"Whereas owners of cats are compelled to realize that, if you provide
them with food and water and shelter and affection, they draw the
conclusion that THEY are gods.” - Christopher Hitchens
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RD Sandman
2015-07-06 16:45:32 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one. My
oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally and
had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44
Black Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just
took it of the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my
new Klipshs'.)
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with passing
a background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why I
dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and
see no reason why anybody should.
That's why 90% of the American people wanted that. The cowardice of
those in Congress who went with what the NRA wanted instead of what
the people wanted will live in ignominy (was gonna say infamy but that
term is already taken for another tragedy; thank gawd for the
wonderfulness of the English language).
Those waiting (or cooling off) periods usually do not apply if the
purchaser has a CCW or is in either the military or law enforcement.
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Governor Swill
That said, the Sandy Hook shooter broke into his mom's guns, killed
her and then went to the school.
The Columbine killers bought weapons over the Internet.
Which is COMPLETELY insane.
That "factoid" is incorrect. I stated how they got their guns in another
post, but, again, one of them (I don't remember offhand if it was Klebold
or Harris) was old enough to purchase the longarm (18) and the handgun
was strawpurchased by one's girl acquaintance. She was given immunity on
the straw purchase charge in exchange for her testimony. At least that
is how I remember it. I'm old so correct me if I am wrong.
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2015-07-06 16:19:36 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one. My
oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally and
had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44 Black
Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just took it of
the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my new
Klipshs'.)
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with passing a
background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why I
dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and see
no reason why anybody should.
That said, the Sandy Hook shooter broke into his mom's guns, killed
her and then went to the school.
The Columbine killers bought weapons over the Internet.
Nope. One of them was old enough to purchase the rifle (18) and the
handgun was straw purchased by someone who passed the background check.
The charges against her were dropped in exchange for her testimony.

You are on the correct trail, however, as the guns used at Washington
Naval Yard (Alexis), Ft. Hood (twice - Hasan and Lopez), Aurora (Holmes),
Virginia Tech (Cho) and Tucson (Loughner) were all purchased after a
background check was passed by the shooter.
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2015-07-06 16:48:43 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one. My
oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally and
had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44 Black
Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just took it of
the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging my new
Klipshs'.)
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with passing a
background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why I
dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and see
no reason why anybody should.
That said, the Sandy Hook shooter broke into his mom's guns, killed
her and then went to the school.
The Columbine killers bought weapons over the Internet.
Nope. One of them was old enough to purchase the rifle (18) and the
handgun was straw purchased by someone who passed the background check.
The charges against her were dropped in exchange for her testimony.
You are on the correct trail, however, as the guns used at Washington
Naval Yard (Alexis), Ft. Hood (twice - Hasan and Lopez), Aurora (Holmes),
Virginia Tech (Cho) and Tucson (Loughner) were all purchased after a
background check was passed by the shooter.
Which is one reason why I would argue for mandatory training. Of
course, a trained shooter is likely to be more efficient at causing mass
fatalities, but on the other hand, I would expect instructors and staff
at gun clubs and ranges to spot disgruntled postal workers before they
can go forth and do their bit for global population control.

For comparison: before 9/11, flight instructors would not have been on
the lookout for suicidal terrorists because it was unthinkable,
unprecedented. By contrast, spree killers are a well known phenomenon,
and a firearms instructor should reasonably be aware of such a
possibility among his trainees.
RD Sandman
2015-07-06 18:23:14 UTC
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Post by Alex W.
Post by FPP
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
I have no problems with lawful responsible gun owners. I'm one.
My oldest son is another.
Just as a reminder, think back about the mass shootings, serial
killings and highly publicized shootings and murders of the past
several years. How many of those shooters had their guns legally
and had clean criminal records?
Post by FPP
Between us, we own 6 firearms, not counting my 1854 Remington .44
Black Powder pistol. That's more of a conversation piece. (Just
took it of the wall tonight, as a matter of fact... I was hanging
my new
Klipshs'.)
Post by Governor Swill
Post by FPP
We shoot all the time... and we've never had a problem with
passing a background check and waiting 5 days.
Two things that amount to TYRANNY is gun-nut circles... It's why I
dropped my NRA membership YEARS ago.
Agreed on that point. I have no objection to a waiting period and
see no reason why anybody should.
That said, the Sandy Hook shooter broke into his mom's guns, killed
her and then went to the school.
The Columbine killers bought weapons over the Internet.
Nope. One of them was old enough to purchase the rifle (18) and the
handgun was straw purchased by someone who passed the background
check. The charges against her were dropped in exchange for her
testimony.
You are on the correct trail, however, as the guns used at Washington
Naval Yard (Alexis), Ft. Hood (twice - Hasan and Lopez), Aurora
(Holmes), Virginia Tech (Cho) and Tucson (Loughner) were all
purchased after a background check was passed by the shooter.
Which is one reason why I would argue for mandatory training.
I have no problem with that. I am ex-military (Air Force, couple of
hitches, but, yes, we did shoot). I was a member of an Air Force pistol
team when I was overseas, and have been a hunter for several decades.
However, I believe that firearms and hunting safety should be taught in
the schools like Drivers Ed.

We had classes like that when I was a kid and my high school also had an
intramural rifle team that competed with other high schools with .22
rifles. Even if you have no guns in your home, your kids should be
taught how to be safe around firearms. You never know where guns may
turn up.

Of
Post by Alex W.
course, a trained shooter is likely to be more efficient at causing
mass fatalities, but on the other hand, I would expect instructors and
staff at gun clubs and ranges to spot disgruntled postal workers
before they can go forth and do their bit for global population
control.
Some probably would spot some troubled kids.
Post by Alex W.
For comparison: before 9/11, flight instructors would not have been on
the lookout for suicidal terrorists because it was unthinkable,
unprecedented. By contrast, spree killers are a well known
phenomenon, and a firearms instructor should reasonably be aware of
such a possibility among his trainees.
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2015-07-06 19:30:02 UTC
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On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 11:19:36 -0500, RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
The Columbine killers bought weapons over the Internet.
Nope. One of them was old enough to purchase the rifle (18) and the
handgun was straw purchased by someone who passed the background check.
The charges against her were dropped in exchange for her testimony.
Which has what to do with the fact that:

a) the 2nd amendment never had anything to do with personal guns

b) the foundation conservatism is rooted in "literal" interpretation
of the constitution.

c) and if that's not enough---even a dumb asshole like you should
suspect that 300,000,000 guns floating around with idiots like you
associate with, is reason enough to call you a moron.
Post by RD Sandman
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On Wed, 02 May 2012 05:36:07 -0400, NoBody <***@nowhere.com> wrote:



The question to YOU is:

"what percentage of the National Debt is Republican responsibility"
RD Sandman
2015-07-06 19:35:47 UTC
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Post by s***@wellcom.net
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 11:19:36 -0500, RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
Post by Governor Swill
The Columbine killers bought weapons over the Internet.
Nope. One of them was old enough to purchase the rifle (18) and the
handgun was straw purchased by someone who passed the background check.
The charges against her were dropped in exchange for her testimony.
a) the 2nd amendment never had anything to do with personal guns
Actually, yes, it did, Gary. That is why it reads "..the right of the
people..." not the rioght of those who are in the militias.
Post by s***@wellcom.net
b) the foundation conservatism is rooted in "literal" interpretation
of the constitution.
So?
Post by s***@wellcom.net
c) and if that's not enough---even a dumb asshole like you should
suspect that 300,000,000 guns floating around with idiots like you
associate with, is reason enough to call you a moron.
And here you are....attempting to socialize with me at every opportunty.
What do you think that says about you?
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2015-07-04 14:11:21 UTC
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Post by Ron White
That's why all the coloreds vote Republican and Fred Oinka is a racist left
wing Pinko.
Who captured those Native African Black people and sold them to the
slave traders? I don't see how the slave ships could have been docked
and the crew then went ashore and captured those people as slaves.
Surely the local Black tribes captured them then sold them to the
slave traders.
Governor Swill
2015-07-04 16:48:55 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Post by Ron White
That's why all the coloreds vote Republican and Fred Oinka is a racist left
wing Pinko.
Who captured those Native African Black people and sold them to the
slave traders? I don't see how the slave ships could have been docked
and the crew then went ashore and captured those people as slaves.
Surely the local Black tribes captured them then sold them to the
slave traders.
That's it exactly. Slavery is an old, time honored tradition. Europe
was probably the first major region to stop using it. It has since
spread pretty much around the world, although there are still isolated
pockets, usually connected to the sex trade.

Swill
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make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed
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Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work,
and then they get elected and prove it." - P.J. O'Rourke
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2015-07-05 06:21:29 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Post by Ron White
That's why all the coloreds vote Republican and Fred Oinka is a racist left
wing Pinko.
Who captured those Native African Black people and sold them to the
slave traders? I don't see how the slave ships could have been docked
and the crew then went ashore and captured those people as slaves.
Surely the local Black tribes captured them then sold them to the
slave traders.
And, like clockwork, here come the apologists...
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worse every time Congress meets." - Will Rogers
Bill Steele
2015-07-06 17:05:33 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Post by Ron White
That's why all the coloreds vote Republican and Fred Oinka is a racist left
wing Pinko.
Who captured those Native African Black people and sold them to the
slave traders? I don't see how the slave ships could have been docked
and the crew then went ashore and captured those people as slaves.
Surely the local Black tribes captured them then sold them to the
slave traders.
There was already a slave trase into North African nations and parts of
Europe. The people doing the shipping saw an opportunity to expand
their market to the west. Maybe they had just developed a capability to
sail across the Atlantic.
Ruut66
2015-07-06 16:03:49 UTC
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Post by Ron White
That's why all the coloreds vote Republican and Fred Oinka is a racist left
wing Pinko.
You actually were asleep during second grade history class? Try the British
French Spanish and Dutch who brought slavery to colonial North America.

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