Return of the $3 Gallon? U.S Gas Prices Are Falling Fast

[Governor Swill]

Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.

Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

Return of the $3 Gallon? U.S Gas Prices Are Falling Fast

<http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-17/u-dot-s-dot-gas-price-falling-fast-time-for-the-return-of-the-3-gallon>

This all starts with the price of oil, which makes up 66 percent of
the cost of a gallon of regular gasoline. International crude prices
have fallen 16 percent since the end of June, and U.S. prices have
dropped more than 11 percent. Different parts of the country use
different sources of oil to make gasoline. Most imported blends of
light, sweet crude no longer come into the U.S. Gulf Coast, by far the
biggest refinery base in the U.S.

Refiners are also getting ready to switch to the winter blend of
gasoline, which is cheaper to produce but fetches lower prices. Over
the last three years, the price of gasoline from September to November
has fallen by an average of more than 30¢ a gallon. If that trend
continues in 2014, it could put prices in some parts of the country
below $3.

Unexpected events could always shake the oil marked. With the U.S. and
its allies planning to step up attacks on ISIS this fall, oil prices
could certainly spike by the end of the year. As long as U.S.
production keeps rising, however, it should help keep prices in check.

[unknown]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 21:32:10 -0500, Governor Swill

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.
Return of the $3 Gallon? U.S Gas Prices Are Falling Fast
<http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-17/u-dot-s-dot-gas-price-falling-fast-time-for-the-return-of-the-3-gallon>
This all starts with the price of oil, which makes up 66 percent of
the cost of a gallon of regular gasoline. International crude prices
have fallen 16 percent since the end of June, and U.S. prices have
dropped more than 11 percent. Different parts of the country use
different sources of oil to make gasoline. Most imported blends of
light, sweet crude no longer come into the U.S. Gulf Coast, by far the
biggest refinery base in the U.S.
Refiners are also getting ready to switch to the winter blend of
gasoline, which is cheaper to produce but fetches lower prices. Over
the last three years, the price of gasoline from September to November
has fallen by an average of more than 30¢ a gallon. If that trend
continues in 2014, it could put prices in some parts of the country
below $3.
Unexpected events could always shake the oil marked. With the U.S. and
its allies planning to step up attacks on ISIS this fall, oil prices
could certainly spike by the end of the year. As long as U.S.
production keeps rising, however, it should help keep prices in check.

Unfortunately lower gas prices are not necessarily a good thing. That
means demand is down. That means economies are shrinking.

[Governor Swill]

Post by unknown

Post by Governor Swill
Unexpected events could always shake the oil marked. With the U.S. and
its allies planning to step up attacks on ISIS this fall, oil prices
could certainly spike by the end of the year. As long as U.S.
production keeps rising, however, it should help keep prices in check.

Unfortunately lower gas prices are not necessarily a good thing. That
means demand is down. That means economies are shrinking.

You really should have read the paragraph right above your reply
before saying that.

While it's true that the global economy is weak, demand isn't down,
it's just not growing as fast. The US is by far the biggest consumer
of oil, and demand here is certainly not down. Already sales of gas
guzzlers is starting to climb.

The bigger issue affecting global oil prices is North American
production. The Saudis don't seem interested in cutting production so
either they need the cash badly enough to keep pushing or some behind
the scenes political work is going on so they're helping beat up on
Russia.

US-EU sanctions are helping China. Putin's bargaining position has
gotten so weak that they were able to beat him down well below his
asking price for his gas. And since they've locked those deals in,
he's obligated to provide that gas at that price in those quantities
even if energy goes through the roof a few years down the line.

Swill

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
You really should have read the paragraph right above
We can't act to cut Chinese
imports (e.g., impose tariffs) as they could dump our debt in
retaliation.

Wrong.

We can and have done so already:

http://www.dunntireblog.com/import-tariffs-impact-tire-pricing

Tariff on Chinese Tires

Chinese tiresIn 2009, the Obama Administration implemented a steep
tariff on imports of Chinese-made tires. The tire tariff was structured
with a 35 percent duty the first year, 30 percent the second and 25
percent the third. This is in addition to the 4% base tariff. The
intent of this regulation was to protect American jobs and save the tire
manufacturing industry in the US. According to Market Watch “U.S.
imports of Chinese tires rose from 14.6 million in 2004 to 46 million in
2008, accounting for about one-sixth of the U.S. market. Four U.S. tire
plants have closed in the past two years (2007-2008) and more than 5,000
workers have lost their jobs.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/business/global/us-sets-tariffs-on-chinese-solar-panels.html?_r=0

The Commerce Department issued its final ruling Wednesday in a
long-simmering trade dispute with China, imposing tariffs ranging from
about 24 to nearly 36 percent on most solar panels imported from the
country.

============================================================================


Once again Swillerator is caught in another LIE!!!!

You fucking vermin.

=============================================================================

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
You really should have read the paragraph
We can't act to cut Chinese
imports (e.g., impose tariffs) as they could dump our debt in
retaliation.

Wrong.

We can and have done so already:

http://www.dunntireblog.com/import-tariffs-impact-tire-pricing

Tariff on Chinese Tires

Chinese tiresIn 2009, the Obama Administration implemented a steep
tariff on imports of Chinese-made tires. The tire tariff was structured
with a 35 percent duty the first year, 30 percent the second and 25
percent the third. This is in addition to the 4% base tariff. The
intent of this regulation was to protect American jobs and save the tire
manufacturing industry in the US. According to Market Watch “U.S.
imports of Chinese tires rose from 14.6 million in 2004 to 46 million in
2008, accounting for about one-sixth of the U.S. market. Four U.S. tire
plants have closed in the past two years (2007-2008) and more than 5,000
workers have lost their jobs.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/business/global/us-sets-tariffs-on-chinese-solar-panels.html?_r=0

The Commerce Department issued its final ruling Wednesday in a
long-simmering trade dispute with China, imposing tariffs ranging from
about 24 to nearly 36 percent on most solar panels imported from the
country.

============================================================================


Once again Swillerator is caught in another LIE!!!!

You fucking vermin.

=============================================================================

[Eddie Haskell]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by unknown

Post by Governor Swill
Unexpected events could always shake the oil marked. With the U.S. and
its allies planning to step up attacks on ISIS this fall, oil prices
could certainly spike by the end of the year. As long as U.S.
production keeps rising, however, it should help keep prices in check.

Unfortunately lower gas prices are not necessarily a good thing. That
means demand is down. That means economies are shrinking.

You really should have read the paragraph right above your reply
before saying that.
While it's true that the global economy is weak, demand isn't down,
it's just not growing as fast. The US is by far the biggest consumer
of oil, and demand here is certainly not down. Already sales of gas
guzzlers is starting to climb.
The bigger issue affecting global oil prices is North American
production.

Thanks to the private sector and IN SPITE of Obama, you lying fuck.

http://youtu.be/t4Tmi_fpUHs

"We have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in
Europe."

-Energy secretary Chu

-Eddie Haskell

[Dänk 42Ø]

Post by unknown
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 21:32:10 -0500, Governor Swill

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

Republicans should be holding congressional hearings to investigate what
appears manipulation of the free market.

Post by unknown

Post by Governor Swill
Unexpected events could always shake the oil marked. With the U.S. and
its allies planning to step up attacks on ISIS this fall, oil prices
could certainly spike by the end of the year. As long as U.S.
production keeps rising, however, it should help keep prices in check.

Unfortunately lower gas prices are not necessarily a good thing. That
means demand is down. That means economies are shrinking.

I had suspected that the price had been tampered with to ensure cheap
gasoline on election day, then it would go back up. But the Saudis are
flooding the market with cheap oil in an attempt to damage the Iranian
and Russian economies, something they can afford but the others can't.
But that oil still must refined, and you may be correct about a
shrinking economy since American refineries appear to have excess
capacity at the moment.

[Governor Swill]

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 10:25:55 +0000, Dänk 42Ø

Post by Dänk 42Ø

Post by unknown
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 21:32:10 -0500, Governor Swill

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

Republicans should be holding congressional hearings to investigate what
appears manipulation of the free market.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. When a Republican is in
office and gas prices go down, it's due to his intelligent and far
seeing energy policy. When the same thing happens with a Dem in
office it's "market manipulation" The only manipulation going on is
the explosion in shale drilling and Canada's expanding bitumen
production.

Post by Dänk 42Ø

Post by unknown

Post by Governor Swill
Unexpected events could always shake the oil marked. With the U.S. and
its allies planning to step up attacks on ISIS this fall, oil prices
could certainly spike by the end of the year. As long as U.S.
production keeps rising, however, it should help keep prices in check.

Unfortunately lower gas prices are not necessarily a good thing. That
means demand is down. That means economies are shrinking.

I had suspected that the price had been tampered with to ensure cheap
gasoline on election day, then it would go back up. But the Saudis are
flooding the market with cheap oil in an attempt to damage the Iranian
and Russian economies, something they can afford but the others can't.
But that oil still must refined, and you may be correct about a
shrinking economy since American refineries appear to have excess
capacity at the moment.

There's a difference between shrinking economies and slowed growth
rates. The US economy is far from shrinking and the growth is
acceleration. China is still seeing high growth but the rates have
slowed from near 10% to less than 8%. That's still a lot of growth
but it's been dropping. Same is true worldwide. The only major
economies in recession right now are Japan and possibly Russia.
Everybody else is just growing much slower than usual.

American refineries have excess capacity because Americans are using
less gas. They've spent the last few years buying more efficient cars
and being more efficient in how they use them.

But now gas is going down due to oil and refined product gluts, gas
guzzling truck and SUV sales are on the rise again.

<http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/04/business/automakers-report-us-sales-for-october-2014.html?_r=0>
"Falling gas prices accelerated American car buyers’ increasing love
affair with trucks and sport utility vehicles last month. And a big
beneficiary was Chrysler, whose Jeep and Ram pickup brands continued
their surge, leading the automaker to double-digit sales gains even as
its crosstown rivals General Motors and Ford Motor fell flat."

See also:
<http://online.wsj.com/articles/jeep-and-ram-power-strong-monthly-sales-for-chrysler-1412166358>

Swill

[Eddie Haskell]

Post by Governor Swill
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 10:25:55 +0000, Dänk 42Ø

Post by Dänk 42Ø

Post by unknown
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 21:32:10 -0500, Governor Swill

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

Republicans should be holding congressional hearings to investigate what
appears manipulation of the free market.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. When a Republican is in
office and gas prices go down, it's due to his intelligent and far
seeing energy policy. When the same thing happens with a Dem in
office it's "market manipulation"

THIS administration LIED and manipulated the unemployment figures before his
election, you stupid shit. (you don't even know that) Stupid. He
unilaterally made and deleted laws in order to fool people before his
election. He used the IRS to go after political opponents before his
election.

There is NO comparison. This load of shit you keep peddling that somehow
they are both guilty of the same crimes is preposterous and a lie.

The corrupt MSM keeps republicans in line and lets democrats get away with
murder.

So fuck off, you offensive "above the fray" lying Obama Gruber sucking
dumbass.

"Nothing has invigorated my spirit more than Obama's inauguration but his
election. The House Republicans' refusal to support the relief bill will
backfire on them in two years. Mark my words, by 2010, the GOP will find
itself so completely minimized by the American electorate that they might as
well stay home as attend Congress."

-Governor Swill, Jan 09

"Indeed, our infrastructure is in much need of repair and
modernization. That said, it's going to be difficult to do if the GOP
continues to block every attempt to invest in it."

-Governor Swill, 10/30/14.

-Eddie Haskell

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
But now gas is going down due to oil
We can't act to cut Chinese
imports (e.g., impose tariffs) as they could dump our debt in
retaliation.

Wrong.

We can and have done so already:

http://www.dunntireblog.com/import-tariffs-impact-tire-pricing

Tariff on Chinese Tires

Chinese tiresIn 2009, the Obama Administration implemented a steep
tariff on imports of Chinese-made tires. The tire tariff was structured
with a 35 percent duty the first year, 30 percent the second and 25
percent the third. This is in addition to the 4% base tariff. The
intent of this regulation was to protect American jobs and save the tire
manufacturing industry in the US. According to Market Watch “U.S.
imports of Chinese tires rose from 14.6 million in 2004 to 46 million in
2008, accounting for about one-sixth of the U.S. market. Four U.S. tire
plants have closed in the past two years (2007-2008) and more than 5,000
workers have lost their jobs.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/business/global/us-sets-tariffs-on-chinese-solar-panels.html?_r=0

The Commerce Department issued its final ruling Wednesday in a
long-simmering trade dispute with China, imposing tariffs ranging from
about 24 to nearly 36 percent on most solar panels imported from the
country.

============================================================================


Once again Swillerator is caught in another LIE!!!!

You fucking vermin.

=============================================================================

[crawling king snake]

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 19:02:23 -0700, crawling king snake

Inbred Peckerwoods Love Fuking their Fist over Kiddie Pornography
43 Stark County man sentenced for child pornography
http://fox8.com/2013/04/22/official-men-traveled-to-have-sex-with-children/
http://www.cantonrep.com/article/20140424/NEWS/140429495/10285/NEWS
A former Hartville resident has been sentenced to 14 years in
federal prison for having child pornography and sexual involvement
with minors, according to a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s office
in Cleveland.
Mark. A. Steffee, 43, was arrested on March 27, 2013, in the Parma
area after police said he solicited a 14-year-old girl to make adult
movies. Police say he went to Parma to pick up the girl, but was met
instead by police and agents with the Ohio Internet Crimes Against
Children Task Force.
Investigators later discovered child pornography on his computer
and, according to court records, Steffee later disclosed having a
sexual relationship with a 14-year-old girl in 2005.
Steffee was sentenced Wednesday in U.S. District Court in
Cleveland. He pleaded guilty in February to federal charges of having
child pornography and coercion or enticement of a female
Steffee had kept his behavior hidden from his family for years,
accepted responsibility for his actions and underwent intensive
counseling to better understand his problem, his attorney said in
pre-sentencing court filings.

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ***@netfront.net ---

[crawling king snake]

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:22:17 -0600, crawling king snake

Inbred Peckerwoods Love Fuking their Fist over Kiddie Pornography
43 Stark County man sentenced for child pornography
http://fox8.com/2013/04/22/official-men-traveled-to-have-sex-with-children/
http://www.cantonrep.com/article/20140424/NEWS/140429495/10285/NEWS
A former Hartville resident has been sentenced to 14 years in
federal prison for having child pornography and sexual involvement
with minors, according to a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s office
in Cleveland.
Mark. A. Steffee, 43, was arrested on March 27, 2013, in the Parma
area after police said he solicited a 14-year-old girl to make adult
movies. Police say he went to Parma to pick up the girl, but was met
instead by police and agents with the Ohio Internet Crimes Against
Children Task Force.
Investigators later discovered child pornography on his computer
and, according to court records, Steffee later disclosed having a
sexual relationship with a 14-year-old girl in 2005.
Steffee was sentenced Wednesday in U.S. District Court in
Cleveland. He pleaded guilty in February to federal charges of having
child pornography and coercion or enticement of a female
Steffee had kept his behavior hidden from his family for years,
accepted responsibility for his actions and underwent intensive
counseling to better understand his problem, his attorney said in
pre-sentencing court filings.

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ***@netfront.net ---

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
American refineries have excess capacity

Another Swill LIE!

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pnp_cap1_dcu_nus_a.htm

Number and Capacity of Petroleum Refineries

2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014

Total Number of Operable Refineries

150 148 148 144 143 142

Operating

141 137 137 134 139 139

Idle

9 11 11 10 4 3

http://www.processingmagazine.com/articles/126920-us-refiners-boost-capacity-of-existing-facilities

Although the United States has not built a large refinery for decades,
existing processing facilities are constantly expanding their capacity
in a bid to utilize the constantly increasing fuel production.
Construction of major facilities is partly impossible because of tight
environmental regulations, so refiners are either building small, highly
specialized plants, or are looking for ways to adapt their existing
refineries to higher output rates and production lines, the Wall Street
Journal reported this week.

According to data gathered by the news service and consultancy IHS, U.S.
refineries are projected to add capacity of more than 400,000 barrels of
oil per day to operational facilities through 2018. This is roughly the
capacity that a major new refinery would have, according to the news
source. Capacity expansion is on the agenda for a number of large
companies, including Valero Energy and Marathon Petroleum Corporation.

[bookoflife.org]

Post by Dänk 42Ø

Post by unknown
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 21:32:10 -0500, Governor Swill

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

Republicans should be holding congressional hearings to investigate what
appears manipulation of the free market.

u mean repubs investigate their own crimes? Why that has never happened. Why do u think now would be any different?

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

Post by unknown
Unfortunately lower gas prices are not necessarily a good thing. That
means demand is down. That means economies are shrinking.

As usual, Dudu's grasp of economics is based on his made-up
information and lies.


http://klaus.webege.com/dudu/dudu.htm
Deep Dudu's LAND OF A THOUSAND LIES

Now Over EIGHT HUNDRED FIFTY

(That's 849 for Dudu)

Lies, Falsehoods,
Fabrications, Distortions,
and Deceptions!
Since July, 2011

[Y***@Jurgis.net]

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 04:54:31 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude

Post by Klaus Schadenfreude

Post by unknown
Unfortunately lower gas prices are not necessarily a good thing. That
means demand is down. That means economies are shrinking.

As usual, Dudu's grasp of economics is based on his made-up
information and lies.

But YOU know all there is to know about "modern carriers"----right
dumbass?

http://www.popsci.com/blog-network/shipshape/several-reasons-why-aircraft-carriers-are-super-dangerous

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 04:54:31 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude

Post by Klaus Schadenfreude

Post by unknown
Unfortunately lower gas prices are not necessarily a good thing. That
means demand is down. That means economies are shrinking.

As usual, Dudu's grasp of economics is based on his made-up
information and lies.

But YOU know all there is to know about "modern carriers"----right
dumbass?

I do.

Why don't you ask Dudu about his claim that "aircraft carriers don't
pitch and roll any more?

LOL

You shouldn't pick on your fellow leftist like that, Gary.

Bad form.

[Vandar]

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

[Just Wondering]

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

[Vandar]

Post by Just Wondering

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

[Kirby Grant]

Post by Vandar

Post by Just Wondering

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

However, in both cases your opinion is totally irrelevant. You have no
justification for thinking that the price should be lower and there is
nobody with the power to make those prices lower. Prices are driven by the
market. There is no such thing as an absolute value for anything. No one has
the right to have prices set according to their own misguided opinions of
what something is worth. If you think gas is too expensive, then stop buying
gas. If you think the price of milk is too high then stop buying milk.
Nobody forces you to purchase either product and it is possible to live
without either one. But save your breath before you start ranting at farmers
for the price of milk being higher than what you think it is worth and if
you even think that the companies that produce gas are interested in your
opinion you are out of touch with reality.

[Vandar]

Post by Kirby Grant

Post by Vandar

Post by Just Wondering

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

However, in both cases your opinion is totally irrelevant.

Not to me, it isn't.
Yours is, however.

Post by Kirby Grant
You have no
justification for thinking that the price should be lower and there is
nobody with the power to make those prices lower. Prices are driven by the
market. There is no such thing as an absolute value for anything. No one has
the right to have prices set according to their own misguided opinions of
what something is worth. If you think gas is too expensive, then stop buying
gas. If you think the price of milk is too high then stop buying milk.
Nobody forces you to purchase either product and it is possible to live
without either one. But save your breath before you start ranting at farmers
for the price of milk being higher than what you think it is worth and if
you even think that the companies that produce gas are interested in your
opinion you are out of touch with reality.

Nothing you just typed has any relevance to the discussion. I've said
nothing about farmers or petroleum companies.
I didn't say the prices were too expensive. I said they are obscene. I
can still afford those products when I need them.
And if you think *anyone* is interested in your opinion, you are further
out of touch with reality than previously thought.

[Eddie Haskell]

Post by Vandar

Post by Kirby Grant

Post by Vandar

Post by Just Wondering

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

However, in both cases your opinion is totally irrelevant.

Not to me, it isn't.
Yours is, however.

Post by Kirby Grant
You have no
justification for thinking that the price should be lower and there is
nobody with the power to make those prices lower. Prices are driven by the
market. There is no such thing as an absolute value for anything. No one has
the right to have prices set according to their own misguided opinions of
what something is worth. If you think gas is too expensive, then stop buying
gas. If you think the price of milk is too high then stop buying milk.
Nobody forces you to purchase either product and it is possible to live
without either one. But save your breath before you start ranting at farmers
for the price of milk being higher than what you think it is worth and if
you even think that the companies that produce gas are interested in your
opinion you are out of touch with reality.

Nothing you just typed has any relevance to the discussion. I've said
nothing about farmers or petroleum companies.
I didn't say the prices were too expensive. I said they are obscene. I can
still afford those products when I need them.
And if you think *anyone* is interested in your opinion, you are further
out of touch with reality than previously thought.

You're wasting your time. Grant is a brain dead DNC shilling vegetable.

"A fetus is not alive until it takes its first breath."

-Kirby Grant, Tuesday, February 21,
2012 1:14 PM

"If tobacco caused cancer then everyone who has ever smoked tobacco would
have developed cancer "

-Kirby Grant, Friday, April 20, 2012 12:58 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"Using a dictionary to claim that dictionaries define words is disengenous."

-Kirby Grant, Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:10 AM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"Every Republican president in this century was placed in office through
voter fraud."

-Kirby Grant, Saturday, April 14, 2012 9:33 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"I voted for the person who became president. Therefore it was the correct
vote."

-Kirby Grant, Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:01 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"Although it is more polite to just say "menally challenged" these days."

-Kirby Grant, Sunday, March 11, 2012 6:37 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"All churches are racist hate churches""

-Kirby Grant, Friday, March 09, 2012 12:33 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

Eddie Haskell: At any rate, you obviously believe that he [Hussein] was born
in the US.

Kirby Grant: I don't believe that at all. I know that he was born in Hawaii.

-Monday, December 12, 2011 3:31 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"I don't believe things. I operate without beliefs."

-Kirby Grant, Monday, December 12, 2011 2:50 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"Beliefs are not based on facts or experience."

-Kirby Grant, Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:46 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"Believe what you want. Beliefs are for fools and pathetic snots like
yourself."

-Kirby Grant, Thursday, June 09, 2011 11:26 AM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"I am perfectly capable of living without beliefs. "

-Kirby Grant, Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:41 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"I told you a long time ago I do not "believe" things. That is something
that weak-minded people do. "

-Kirby Grant, Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:41 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"The original message was about Sarah "I can see Russia from my front door"
Palin."

-Kirby Grant, Thursday, August 04, 2011 4:34 PM

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110608094524AAnEDin

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"Only fringe loonies listen."

-Kirby Grant, Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:55 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"I voted for President Obama because he was the most qualified individual
who ran for president in 2008. "

-Kirby Grant, Friday, July 22, 2011 3:13 PM

"That's ridiculous. Of course he received congressional approval. He issued
an executive order."

-Kirby Grant, Sunday, May 22, 2011 7:31 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"I don't have any beliefs at all, except that I believe I'll have another
diet coke since I'm thirsty. Beliefs are for those who don't have
knowledge."

-Kirby Grant, Thursday, June 09, 2011 1:47 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

In fact, Dubya wasn't actually a natural born citizen - his mother gave
birth to him via C-section. Which means he was not born naturally.

-Kirby Grant, Sunday, May 22, 2011 7:17 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"About the only thing noteworthy about 9/11 is that NYC got a hole in the
ground that has been far more profitable for the city than the buildings
that used to exist on that spot. Generally it can be said that they are
fairly satisfied with the overall results over the past decade. They
couldn't have done better unless they had planned it
themselves."

-Kirby Grant, Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:06 AM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"How is it possible that you are just one person and yet you have more
ignorance 'then' a thousand men?"

-Kirby Grant, Friday, June 03, 2011 10:47 AM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"Of course I have a brand in this fire because I had been married to an
immoral slut who I didn't realize was banging half the guys in town whenever
I was away on a business trip and that was often several times a month."

-Kirby Grant, Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:57 AM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"As a matter of fact, yes. I am a historian. Not that you would have ever
read my materials - which were written under a different identity."

-Kirby Grant,Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:53 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"Given the latest announcement by the WHO regarding cell phone usage and
brain cancer, I'm betting Republicans won't be smart enough to decrease
their cell phone usage."

-Kirby Grant, Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:02 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"Being BORN on either the north American or South American continent or the
Latin America in between the north american and south american continent
more or less conveys the status of being an American."

-Kirby Grant, Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:11 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"You see, we have plenty of confusion on the Democratic side as well, but we
know better 'then' to start having splinter groups. "

-Kirby Grant, Monday, July 18, 2011 1:29 PM

"Again with the vast ignorance. I was wrong - you have more ignorance 'then'
ten thousand other men."

-Kirby Grant, Friday, June 03, 2011 10:52 AM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"I know better 'then' to address a letter to the president."

-Kirby Grant, Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:28 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"People who have never served have no right at all to comment on how
military operations are performed."

-Kirby Grant, Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:27 PM

Haskell: The democrats oppose school choice on behalf of the NEA because
they don't want the competition.

Grant: The National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) doesn't do any of what you
just claimed.

-Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:42 PM

"Liberals have been winning in this country for well over 200 years"

-Kirby Grant, Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:38 PM

"Classical liberalism is the philosophy committed to the ideal of limited
government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and liberty of
individuals including freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and
free markets"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism

"For starters, liberal and liberalism are two different ideas."

-Kirby Grant, Wednesday, December 28, 2011 11:23 AM

Eddie Haskell: Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Kirby Grant: Like all other stupid conservatives, you live in sound bite
hell. Your first sentence is not true and has never been true. It only
exists as a sound bite because it sounds clever. But is is totally outside
proof.

-Kirby Grant, Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:38 PM

"Classical liberalism simply does not apply any longer. It is part of the
myths that float around in that infantile mind you possess. It describe
something that exist some time in the past, but which has been superceded by
post-modernism."

-Kirby Grant, Monday, December 19, 2011 8:09 AM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

"Beware of anyone who writes about "postmodernism". "

-Kirby Grant, Monday, July 09, 2012 3:56 PM

http://youtu.be/_Rav9ijyyZk

-Eddie Haskell

[Governor Swill]

Post by Vandar

Post by Kirby Grant

Post by Vandar
A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

However, in both cases your opinion is totally irrelevant.

Not to me, it isn't.
Yours is, however.

It's entirely relevant. It's a factual reply on topic. If you don't
believe it, go to your local gas station and supermarket, tell them
what you think is a fair price for their goods and see if they go for
it. Go ahead, we'll wait.

Post by Vandar

Post by Kirby Grant
You have no
justification for thinking that the price should be lower and there is
nobody with the power to make those prices lower. Prices are driven by the
market. There is no such thing as an absolute value for anything. No one has
the right to have prices set according to their own misguided opinions of
what something is worth. If you think gas is too expensive, then stop buying
gas. If you think the price of milk is too high then stop buying milk.
Nobody forces you to purchase either product and it is possible to live
without either one. But save your breath before you start ranting at farmers
for the price of milk being higher than what you think it is worth and if
you even think that the companies that produce gas are interested in your
opinion you are out of touch with reality.

Nothing you just typed has any relevance to the discussion. I've said
nothing about farmers or petroleum companies.

What an ass! So, who provides your milk and gas? Seamstresses?
Landscapers? Homeless bums?

Post by Vandar
I didn't say the prices were too expensive. I said they are obscene.

*laughs and points* Translation: *wrigglewriggle*

So what do you mean by "obscene"? That they aren't expensive?

Post by Vandar
I
can still afford those products when I need them.
And if you think *anyone* is interested in your opinion, you are further
out of touch with reality than previously thought.

No more or less interested than anybody would be in yours.

Swill

[Eddie Haskell]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Vandar

Post by Kirby Grant

Post by Vandar
A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

However, in both cases your opinion is totally irrelevant.

Not to me, it isn't.
Yours is, however.

It's entirely relevant. It's a factual reply on topic. If you don't
believe it, go to your local gas station and supermarket, tell them
what you think is a fair price for their goods and see if they go for
it. Go ahead, we'll wait.

Post by Vandar

Post by Kirby Grant
You have no
justification for thinking that the price should be lower and there is
nobody with the power to make those prices lower. Prices are driven by the
market. There is no such thing as an absolute value for anything. No one has
the right to have prices set according to their own misguided opinions of
what something is worth. If you think gas is too expensive, then stop buying
gas. If you think the price of milk is too high then stop buying milk.
Nobody forces you to purchase either product and it is possible to live
without either one. But save your breath before you start ranting at farmers
for the price of milk being higher than what you think it is worth and if
you even think that the companies that produce gas are interested in your
opinion you are out of touch with reality.

Nothing you just typed has any relevance to the discussion. I've said
nothing about farmers or petroleum companies.

What an ass! So, who provides your milk and gas? Seamstresses?
Landscapers? Homeless bums?

Post by Vandar
I didn't say the prices were too expensive. I said they are obscene.

*laughs and points* Translation: *wrigglewriggle*
So what do you mean by "obscene"? That they aren't expensive?

Post by Vandar
I
can still afford those products when I need them.
And if you think *anyone* is interested in your opinion, you are further
out of touch with reality than previously thought.

No more or less interested than anybody would be in yours.
Swill
--
To leftists, centrists are conservative Republicans.
To rightists, centrists are liberal Democrats.
Actually, they're somewhere in between - that's why they're called "centrists".

[Eddie Haskell]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Vandar

Post by Kirby Grant

Post by Vandar
A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

However, in both cases your opinion is totally irrelevant.

Not to me, it isn't.
Yours is, however.

It's entirely relevant. It's a factual reply on topic.

Here's Swill factual topics:

"Nothing has invigorated my spirit more than Obama's inauguration but his
election. The House Republicans' refusal to support the relief bill will
backfire on them in two years. Mark my words, by 2010, the GOP will find
itself so completely minimized by the American electorate that they might as
well stay home as attend Congress."

-Governor Swill, Jan 09

"Indeed, our infrastructure is in much need of repair and
modernization. That said, it's going to be difficult to do if the GOP
continues to block every attempt to invest in it."

-Governor Swill, 10/30/14.

Verdict: LYING STUPID FUCK.

-Eddie Haskell

[Governor Swill]

Post by Eddie Haskell
"Nothing has invigorated my spirit more than Obama's inauguration but his
election. The House Republicans' refusal to support the relief bill will
backfire on them in two years. Mark my words, by 2010, the GOP will find
itself so completely minimized by the American electorate that they might as
well stay home as attend Congress."
-Governor Swill, Jan 09

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That doesn't make me a liar, Edith, it makes me
not clairvoyant. Anyway, that statement stands. The Republicans did
support the relief bill (800+ Obama stimulus).

It was Obamacare that turned the tide for them in November 2010 and my
comment above was from before Obamacare was introduced. In fact, my
comment above was from before Obama was President.

Post by Eddie Haskell
"Indeed, our infrastructure is in much need of repair and
modernization. That said, it's going to be difficult to do if the GOP
continues to block every attempt to invest in it."
-Governor Swill, 10/30/14.

Absolutely true. If the GOP, which is about to go in power doesn't
support infrastructure upgrades, it's going to be very difficult to
upgrade the infrastructure, is it not?

Post by Eddie Haskell
Verdict: LYING STUPID FUCK.
-Eddie Haskell

Verdict: Desperate liberal wannabe and child molester.

Swill

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That doesn't make me a liar, Edith,

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
It was Obamacare that turned the tide

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[Vandar]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Vandar

Post by Kirby Grant

Post by Vandar
A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

However, in both cases your opinion is totally irrelevant.

Not to me, it isn't.
Yours is, however.

It's entirely relevant. It's a factual reply on topic. If you don't
believe it, go to your local gas station and supermarket, tell them
what you think is a fair price for their goods and see if they go for
it. Go ahead, we'll wait.

Post by Vandar

Post by Kirby Grant
You have no
justification for thinking that the price should be lower and there is
nobody with the power to make those prices lower. Prices are driven by the
market. There is no such thing as an absolute value for anything. No one has
the right to have prices set according to their own misguided opinions of
what something is worth. If you think gas is too expensive, then stop buying
gas. If you think the price of milk is too high then stop buying milk.
Nobody forces you to purchase either product and it is possible to live
without either one. But save your breath before you start ranting at farmers
for the price of milk being higher than what you think it is worth and if
you even think that the companies that produce gas are interested in your
opinion you are out of touch with reality.

Nothing you just typed has any relevance to the discussion. I've said
nothing about farmers or petroleum companies.

What an ass! So, who provides your milk and gas? Seamstresses?
Landscapers? Homeless bums?

Depends on where I go. A large part of the gas price is state tax.
The federal tax on a gallon is about $0.18. NY's state tax on a gallon
(highest in the nation) is about $0.50.
But now you've got me thinking those homeless bums could be to blame.

Farmers don't set milk prices.

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Vandar
I didn't say the prices were too expensive. I said they are obscene.

*laughs and points* Translation: *wrigglewriggle*
So what do you mean by "obscene"? That they aren't expensive?

They aren't "too" expensive, meaning unaffordable. But they are higher
than they should be. 68 cents in tax on a gallon of gas is absurd.

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Vandar
I
can still afford those products when I need them.
And if you think *anyone* is interested in your opinion, you are further
out of touch with reality than previously thought.

No more or less interested than anybody would be in yours.

Yet here you are.

[Governor Swill]

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Vandar
Nothing you just typed has any relevance to the discussion. I've said
nothing about farmers or petroleum companies.

What an ass! So, who provides your milk and gas? Seamstresses?
Landscapers? Homeless bums?

Depends on where I go. A large part of the gas price is state tax.
The federal tax on a gallon is about $0.18. NY's state tax on a gallon
(highest in the nation) is about $0.50.

Federal tax is 18 cents a gallon so subtract that from these figures.
It's almost 80 cents in California.
<http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/states-with-highest-gasoline-excise-taxes-2.aspx>
New York ranks second at 68 cents per gallon.
<http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/states-with-highest-gasoline-excise-taxes-3.aspx>
This site shows New York ahead of California by less than two cents.
http://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas-overview/industry-economics/fuel-taxes/gasoline-tax
This page agrees with the previous one.
http://taxfoundation.org/article/state-gasoline-tax-rates-2009-2013
Exxon Mobil has this map with different numbers from any of the above
but references the above API map. I guess you can't trust an oil
company or Wikipedia.
http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.com/2014/02/07/this-gasoline-tax-map-explains-a-lot/

Post by Vandar
But now you've got me thinking those homeless bums could be to blame.
Farmers don't set milk prices.

Yet they produce that milk and sell it at market rates upon which
dairy processors base their wholesale rates. The market sets it's own
specific retail rate but all of it goes back to what the farmer has to
get to make his milk profitable.

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Vandar
I didn't say the prices were too expensive. I said they are obscene.

*laughs and points* Translation: *wrigglewriggle*
So what do you mean by "obscene"? That they aren't expensive?

They aren't "too" expensive, meaning unaffordable. But they are higher
than they should be. 68 cents in tax on a gallon of gas is absurd.

Affordable means whether or not there's room in your budget for the
purchase. If you can buy milk, that means you can "afford" it. It
may be expensive, it may be very expensive, the price may in fact be
"obscene" which I would define as "unaffordable".

Anyway, $4 gal milk isn't expensive to me but it isn't cheap either.
that's about 3 to 4 times the price per ounce of soda drinks.

$10 milk would be very expensive, perhaps obscene. But $4 milk is
cheap. Cheaper than it was 35 years ago (inflation adjusted).

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Vandar
I
can still afford those products when I need them.
And if you think *anyone* is interested in your opinion, you are further
out of touch with reality than previously thought.

No more or less interested than anybody would be in yours.

Yet here you are.

And so are you. But I'm not the one pretending disinterest in others'
opinions.

Swill

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
Anyway, $4 gal milk isn't expensive to me

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
so subtract that from these figures.
It's almost 80 cents in California.

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
It's entirely relevant. I
We can't act to cut Chinese
imports (e.g., impose tariffs) as they could dump our debt in
retaliation.

Wrong.

We can and have done so already:

http://www.dunntireblog.com/import-tariffs-impact-tire-pricing

Tariff on Chinese Tires

Chinese tiresIn 2009, the Obama Administration implemented a steep
tariff on imports of Chinese-made tires. The tire tariff was structured
with a 35 percent duty the first year, 30 percent the second and 25
percent the third. This is in addition to the 4% base tariff. The
intent of this regulation was to protect American jobs and save the tire
manufacturing industry in the US. According to Market Watch “U.S.
imports of Chinese tires rose from 14.6 million in 2004 to 46 million in
2008, accounting for about one-sixth of the U.S. market. Four U.S. tire
plants have closed in the past two years (2007-2008) and more than 5,000
workers have lost their jobs.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/business/global/us-sets-tariffs-on-chinese-solar-panels.html?_r=0

The Commerce Department issued its final ruling Wednesday in a
long-simmering trade dispute with China, imposing tariffs ranging from
about 24 to nearly 36 percent on most solar panels imported from the
country.

============================================================================


Once again Swillerator is caught in another LIE!!!!

You fucking vermin.

=============================================================================

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
If you don't
believe it, go to your local gas station and supermarket,

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[Eddie Haskell]

Post by Kirby Grant

Post by Vandar

Post by Just Wondering

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

However, in both cases your opinion is totally irrelevant. You have no
justification for thinking that the price should be lower and there is
nobody with the power to make those prices lower. Prices are driven by the
market. There is no such thing as an absolute value for anything. No one has
the right to have prices set according to their own misguided opinions

And yet you voted for a nigger who thinks he does, you stupid FUCK.

Goddamn you people are so fucking stupid it's unbelievable.

http://youtu.be/t4Tmi_fpUHs

"We have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in
Europe."

-Energy secretary Chu

-Eddie Haskell

[crawling king snake]

Post by Kirby Grant
you are out of touch with reality.

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6/23/2012 12:29 PM

alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.elections,
alt.politics.media, seattle.politics

***@yahoo.com

<6WnFr.443151$***@news.usenetserver.com>

So tell me. What do you plan to do for all eternity in hell? You've
obviously created a situation where I have to make arrangements for that to
happen, so you better start figuring it out pretty quickly.
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[Y***@Jurgis.net]

Post by Vandar

Post by Just Wondering
So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

Gee---guess which economic and political strata that aids the
most---and guess which political party made it possible?

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Post by Y***@Jurgis.net

Post by Vandar

Post by Just Wondering
So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

Gee---guess which economic and political strata that aids the
most-

The political class Washington and pointy head Liberal elites are
getting more wealthy. Gruber was paid $6,000,000.00 to fudge numbers and
help the ObamaCare lie.

You Liberal-Socialists are destroying the middle class.

Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
--and guess which political party made it possible?

Democrats




Why would gas go down and milk go up? When energy to produce and
transport an item like milk is cheaper, when the cost of that item
should drop. Why didn't MILK become cheaper?

Could it be regulation, and growth of the Government and EPA and lawyers.

[Eddie Haskell]

"BeamMeUpScotty"

Post by BeamMeUpScotty

Post by Y***@Jurgis.net

Post by Vandar

Post by Just Wondering
So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

Gee---guess which economic and political strata that aids the
most-

The political class Washington and pointy head Liberal elites are
getting more wealthy. Gruber was paid $6,000,000.00 to fudge numbers and
help the ObamaCare lie.
You Liberal-Socialists are destroying the middle class.

He doesn't give a fuck.

Post by BeamMeUpScotty

Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
--and guess which political party made it possible?

Democrats
Why would gas go down and milk go up? When energy to produce and
transport an item like milk is cheaper, when the cost of that item
should drop. Why didn't MILK become cheaper?
Could it be regulation, and growth of the Government and EPA and lawyers.

He doesn't give a fuck about that either.

He's nothing but a DNC shilling piece of shit cultist and facts don't make a
damn whatsoever.

They're ALL like that. That's why I stopped trying to reason with them a
long time ago.

The only answer is war.

Just look at what the nigger is about to do tonight while they cheer.

-Eddie Haskell

[Eddie Haskell]

Post by Y***@Jurgis.net

Post by Vandar

Post by Just Wondering
So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

Gee---guess which economic and political strata that aids the
most---and guess which political party made it possible?

Go fuck yourself, nigger. The private sector and the right are bringing down
the price of gas in spite of your lying nigger, you lying nigger.

http://youtu.be/t4Tmi_fpUHs

"We have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in
Europe."

-Energy secratary Chu

-Eddie Haskell

[Governor Swill]

Post by Y***@Jurgis.net

Post by Vandar

Post by Just Wondering
So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

Gee---guess which economic and political strata that aids the
most---and guess which political party made it possible?

Um . . . Um . . . I'll take "Wisconsin and ExxonMobil for a hundred,
Alex!"

Swill

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
Um . . . Um . . . I'll take "Wisconsin and ExxonMobil

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[benj]

Post by Vandar

Post by Just Wondering

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

Don't get too happy with low gas prices. They are just to put the
squeeze on Putin. Later they'll go back to putting the squeeze on YOU!
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[Governor Swill]

Post by benj

Post by Vandar
A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

Don't get too happy with low gas prices. They are just to put the
squeeze on Putin.

I think that's just a plus.

The two main factors on falling oil are fracking and bitumen sands.
Both have been ongoing for quite a while. The other is slowed demand
in the wake of the 2007 recession.

I don't think anybody thought back when Putin invaded Georgia, "Hey,
let's wreck the economy and at the same time start drilling for oil
again so we can beat Putin's ass the next time he invades some place!"

Swill

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
I think that's just a plus.

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
I think that's just a plus.

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[Governor Swill]

Post by Vandar

Post by Just Wondering

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

It's about right with inflation. The inflation factor since 1980 is
3X. Good bread was more than a dollar a loaf back then and gas was
about dollar a gallon.

Swill

[Vandar]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Vandar

Post by Just Wondering

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

It's about right with inflation. The inflation factor since 1980 is
3X. Good bread was more than a dollar a loaf back then and gas was
about dollar a gallon.

1980 isn't that good of a benchmark, due to the Iranian Revolution and
start of the Iran/Iraq war. Prices spiked quickly just prior to then.
I get name brand bread here (white) for $1.99 at the supermarket.

[Eddie Haskell]

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Vandar

Post by Just Wondering

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

It's about right with inflation. The inflation factor since 1980 is
3X. Good bread was more than a dollar a loaf back then and gas was
about dollar a gallon.

1980 isn't that good of a benchmark,

That's the whole point.

-Eddie Haskell

Post by Vandar
due to the Iranian Revolution and start of the Iran/Iraq war. Prices
spiked quickly just prior to then.
I get name brand bread here (white) for $1.99 at the supermarket.

[Just Wondering]

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Vandar
A gallon of milk around here is about a buck more than a gallon of gas.
Both prices are obscene.

It's about right with inflation. The inflation factor since 1980 is
3X. Good bread was more than a dollar a loaf back then and gas was
about dollar a gallon.

1980 isn't that good of a benchmark, due to the Iranian Revolution and
start of the Iran/Iraq war. Prices spiked quickly just prior to then.
I get name brand bread here (white) for $1.99 at the supermarket.

Not that bad, really. 1979 11.3, 1980 13.5, 1981 10.3 then it settled
down into relatively stable single digits.
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-inflation-rates/
In 1973 just before the embargo I was working at an Exxon and our
regular was 39.9 which works out to $2.14. The reason I recall the
price is because it was the cheapest major gas price around. Was
owned by a Cuban emigree family.
http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=.40&year1=1973&year2=2014

And in 1962 gas was 19.9 cents, the gas station attendant would clean
your windshield and check your oil and tires for free, and you'd get a
free glass or ice scraper with every tankful. But your car needed a
major tuneup every 10,000 miles, and if it lasted 100,000 miles it was a
miracle. None of which has much to do with the way things are now. So
what's your point.

Of course oil is a lot costlier to get these days. Punching a hole in
Oklahoma prairie and watching a gusher blow is a lot cheaper than
horizontal drilling through shale to frack it.
Couldn't find the build price but the Deepwater Horizon is insured for
over half a billion, is leased for half a million a day and costs
another half million a day to operate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon
All things considered, gas prices aren't horrible but yeah, I sure
miss $2 gas!

[Governor Swill]

On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 00:55:02 -0700, Just Wondering

Post by Just Wondering

In 1973 just before the embargo I was working at an Exxon and our
regular was 39.9 which works out to $2.14. The reason I recall the
price is because it was the cheapest major gas price around. Was
owned by a Cuban emigree family.
http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=.40&year1=1973&year2=2014

And in 1962 gas was 19.9 cents, the gas station attendant would clean
your windshield and check your oil and tires for free, and you'd get a
free glass or ice scraper with every tankful.

Don't remember it that cheap. In my hometown the cheapest I remember
is the mid twenties but on 1962 I would have been 7 or 8 so probably
wasn't paying that much attention.

My mom built a set of bone china including serving dishes from gas
bought at a local Chevron in 1970.

Post by Just Wondering
But your car needed a
major tuneup every 10,000 miles, and if it lasted 100,000 miles it was a
miracle. None of which has much to do with the way things are now. So
what's your point.

Point was that gas hasn't really gone up much more than inflation over
time especially when you consider how much more it costs to get out of
the ground these days which bit you snipped.

Oh! Here it is!

"Of course oil is a lot costlier to get these days. Punching a hole
in Oklahoma prairie and watching a gusher blow is a lot cheaper than
horizontal drilling through shale to frack it.

"Couldn't find the build price but the Deepwater Horizon is insured
for over half a billion, is leased for half a million a day and costs
another half million a day to operate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon

"All things considered, gas prices aren't horrible but yeah, I sure
miss $2 gas!"

For that matter, I miss 20 cent gas. LOL!

Swill

[crawling king snake]

Not that bad, really.

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[crawling king snake]

All things considered, gas prices aren't horrible

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[crawling king snake]

Post by David Hartung
gas was
about dollar a gallon.
We can't act to cut Chinese
imports (e.g., impose tariffs) as they could dump our debt in
retaliation.

Wrong.

We can and have done so already:

http://www.dunntireblog.com/import-tariffs-impact-tire-pricing

Tariff on Chinese Tires

Chinese tiresIn 2009, the Obama Administration implemented a steep
tariff on imports of Chinese-made tires. The tire tariff was structured
with a 35 percent duty the first year, 30 percent the second and 25
percent the third. This is in addition to the 4% base tariff. The
intent of this regulation was to protect American jobs and save the tire
manufacturing industry in the US. According to Market Watch “U.S.
imports of Chinese tires rose from 14.6 million in 2004 to 46 million in
2008, accounting for about one-sixth of the U.S. market. Four U.S. tire
plants have closed in the past two years (2007-2008) and more than 5,000
workers have lost their jobs.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/business/global/us-sets-tariffs-on-chinese-solar-panels.html?_r=0

The Commerce Department issued its final ruling Wednesday in a
long-simmering trade dispute with China, imposing tariffs ranging from
about 24 to nearly 36 percent on most solar panels imported from the
country.

============================================================================


Once again Swillerator is caught in another LIE!!!!

You fucking vermin.

=============================================================================

[crawling king snake]

Post by David Hartung
gas was
about dollar a gallon.

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by David Hartung
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[Governor Swill]

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:44:31 -0700, Just Wondering

Post by Just Wondering

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

Actually milk is harder to produce and handle because it's perishable.

That said, I can get store brand whole gallons for under $4. The
local premium brand, Mayfield, runs 5 to 6 depending on the store.

The price of bread continues to shock me. Better brands and specialty
whole grains like Arnold's can be over $3 but most run about 2.50 -
2.90. Store brands are usually under $2 but they all taste like
nothing and are full of air and dry and stale even on delivery day.

I don't buy white bread so I couldn't tell you what it costs.

Swill

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
I don't buy white bread so I couldn't tell you what it costs.
We can't act to cut Chinese
imports (e.g., impose tariffs) as they could dump our debt in
retaliation.

Wrong.

We can and have done so already:

http://www.dunntireblog.com/import-tariffs-impact-tire-pricing

Tariff on Chinese Tires

Chinese tiresIn 2009, the Obama Administration implemented a steep
tariff on imports of Chinese-made tires. The tire tariff was structured
with a 35 percent duty the first year, 30 percent the second and 25
percent the third. This is in addition to the 4% base tariff. The
intent of this regulation was to protect American jobs and save the tire
manufacturing industry in the US. According to Market Watch “U.S.
imports of Chinese tires rose from 14.6 million in 2004 to 46 million in
2008, accounting for about one-sixth of the U.S. market. Four U.S. tire
plants have closed in the past two years (2007-2008) and more than 5,000
workers have lost their jobs.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/business/global/us-sets-tariffs-on-chinese-solar-panels.html?_r=0

The Commerce Department issued its final ruling Wednesday in a
long-simmering trade dispute with China, imposing tariffs ranging from
about 24 to nearly 36 percent on most solar panels imported from the
country.

============================================================================


Once again Swillerator is caught in another LIE!!!!

You fucking vermin.

=============================================================================

[crawling king snake]

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 19:02:00 -0700, crawling king snake

Inbred Peckerwoods Love Fuking their Fist over Kiddie Pornography
43 Stark County man sentenced for child pornography
http://fox8.com/2013/04/22/official-men-traveled-to-have-sex-with-children/
http://www.cantonrep.com/article/20140424/NEWS/140429495/10285/NEWS
A former Hartville resident has been sentenced to 14 years in
federal prison for having child pornography and sexual involvement
with minors, according to a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s office
in Cleveland.
Mark. A. Steffee, 43, was arrested on March 27, 2013, in the Parma
area after police said he solicited a 14-year-old girl to make adult
movies. Police say he went to Parma to pick up the girl, but was met
instead by police and agents with the Ohio Internet Crimes Against
Children Task Force.
Investigators later discovered child pornography on his computer
and, according to court records, Steffee later disclosed having a
sexual relationship with a 14-year-old girl in 2005.
Steffee was sentenced Wednesday in U.S. District Court in
Cleveland. He pleaded guilty in February to federal charges of having
child pornography and coercion or enticement of a female
Steffee had kept his behavior hidden from his family for years,
accepted responsibility for his actions and underwent intensive
counseling to better understand his problem, his attorney said in
pre-sentencing court filings.

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[Just Wondering]

Post by Governor Swill
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:44:31 -0700, Just Wondering

Post by Just Wondering

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

Actually milk is harder to produce and handle because it's perishable.

Being perishable doesn't make it harder to produce. It just means you
need to use it before it goes sour. With modern refrigeration,
pasteurization, etc. milk can stay good for much longer than it did half
a century ago. Producing milk couldn't be easier. Every female mammal
has the necessary equipment. Get a cow, let it calve, put alfalfa in
one end, and collect the milk from the spigots. No exploring, drilling,
or billion dollar refineries are needed. There are little family
dairies scattered all across the nation. Even you could start up a
dairy if you really wanted to. You can't say that about oil companies.

Post by Governor Swill
That said, I can get store brand whole gallons for under $4. The
local premium brand, Mayfield, runs 5 to 6 depending on the store.
The price of bread continues to shock me. Better brands and specialty
whole grains like Arnold's can be over $3 but most run about 2.50 -
2.90. Store brands are usually under $2 but they all taste like
nothing and are full of air and dry and stale even on delivery day.
I don't buy white bread so I couldn't tell you what it costs.
Swill

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Post by Just Wondering

Post by Governor Swill
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:44:31 -0700, Just Wondering

Post by Just Wondering

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

Actually milk is harder to produce and handle because it's perishable.

Being perishable doesn't make it harder to produce. It just means you
need to use it before it goes sour. With modern refrigeration,
pasteurization, etc. milk can stay good for much longer than it did half
a century ago. Producing milk couldn't be easier. Every female mammal
has the necessary equipment. Get a cow, let it calve, put alfalfa in
one end, and collect the milk from the spigots. No exploring, drilling,
or billion dollar refineries are needed. There are little family
dairies scattered all across the nation. Even you could start up a
dairy if you really wanted to. You can't say that about oil companies.

Post by Governor Swill
That said, I can get store brand whole gallons for under $4. The
local premium brand, Mayfield, runs 5 to 6 depending on the store.
The price of bread continues to shock me. Better brands and specialty
whole grains like Arnold's can be over $3 but most run about 2.50 -
2.90. Store brands are usually under $2 but they all taste like
nothing and are full of air and dry and stale even on delivery day.
I don't buy white bread so I couldn't tell you what it costs.
Swill

It costs enough for me to know there's inflation.

Along with Chickens and aluminum foil....

The cost of real living are rising. Even if Obama and his lying ilk say
it's NOT.

[Governor Swill]

On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 01:05:05 -0700, Just Wondering

Post by Just Wondering

Post by Governor Swill
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:44:31 -0700, Just Wondering

Post by Just Wondering
So, how are MILK prices in your neck of the woods? It's more than gas
here, even though it's easier to produce.

Actually milk is harder to produce and handle because it's perishable.

Being perishable doesn't make it harder to produce.

Of course perishability makes it harder to produce, or trickier
anyway. Wait, by "produce" I mean "get to market". Is that what you
mean or are you talking "get out of the udder"?

That said, I've rethought the supply chain and realize that milk does
require much less tech to produce. Oil is definitely a higher level
of technology. That said, perishability introduces a supply chain
kink oil doesn't have. You don't see Exxon throwing away crude
because it's two weeks old.

Post by Just Wondering
It just means you
need to use it before it goes sour. With modern refrigeration,
pasteurization, etc. milk can stay good for much longer than it did half
a century ago. Producing milk couldn't be easier. Every female mammal
has the necessary equipment.

Let me know when you start putting mother's milk in your coffee. :)

Post by Just Wondering
Get a cow, let it calve, put alfalfa in
one end, and collect the milk from the spigots. No exploring, drilling,
or billion dollar refineries are needed. There are little family
dairies scattered all across the nation. Even you could start up a
dairy if you really wanted to. You can't say that about oil companies.

Sure. I'll just step out in my backyard and start raising cows.

Either business requires capitalization.

The scarcity of easy to drill oil may well have made it enough more
difficult to get at and refining tech complex enough that I should
change my opinion about it.

Swill

[Governor Swill]

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.

Exactly, and yet partisans continue to do just that. If a Rep is in
office and gas goes down, rightists claim it's because of his energy
policy. When a Dem is in, it's because some mysterious force is
manipulating gas prices for electoral reasons.

Leftists behave the same way in reverse.

Post by Vandar
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

Not compared to the over $4 a gallon it reached here in Georgia in the
summer of 2008. And btw, when gas prices collapsed that fall, it was
common to hear folks saying BushCo Inc. was manipulating gas prices
down trying to elect McCain/Palin. The fact of the matter was the
economic collapse had become widespread enough to damage consumer
confidence and cut demand.

Marathon was 2.64 this morning.

Swill

[Vandar]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Vandar

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

$2.74 here.
I neither blame nor credit the POTUS for gas prices, ever.

Exactly, and yet partisans continue to do just that. If a Rep is in
office and gas goes down, rightists claim it's because of his energy
policy. When a Dem is in, it's because some mysterious force is
manipulating gas prices for electoral reasons.
Leftists behave the same way in reverse.

Post by Vandar
But if I did, I would never thank anyone for $2.74/gal. That's extremely
high.

Not compared to the over $4 a gallon it reached here in Georgia in the
summer of 2008. And btw, when gas prices collapsed that fall, it was
common to hear folks saying BushCo Inc. was manipulating gas prices
down trying to elect McCain/Palin. The fact of the matter was the
economic collapse had become widespread enough to damage consumer
confidence and cut demand.
Marathon was 2.64 this morning.

I remember when prices spiked 6-7 years ago. I told people that they
will pump prices to $4 and then everyone will think it's a great bargain
when it gets to $3, when it should be about $1.50.

I live in NY, but I don't buy gas here. It's hovering around $3 at the
local pumps. I head across the border to NJ and get it for $2.74.
If I didn't live at the PA/NJ border, I would've left NY years ago.

[Governor Swill]

Post by Vandar
I remember when prices spiked 6-7 years ago. I told people that they
will pump prices to $4 and then everyone will think it's a great bargain
when it gets to $3, when it should be about $1.50.

Shouldn't be 1.50. Cost too much to get out of the ground. Fifty
years ago Texans were still conventional drilling and standing back to
keep the gusher from blasting their head off. The easy oil is all
gone pretty much everywhere except Russia. That's their advantage.
Their inefficient and low tech development systems have left them
underutilizing their reserves. My god! They own half of Asia and
half the arctic! There are vast quantities of easy to pump oil in
eastern Siberia they've already found but can't get out of the ground.
No infrastructure. No power grid, rail or pipelines, not even
highways.

Post by Vandar
I live in NY, but I don't buy gas here. It's hovering around $3 at the
local pumps. I head across the border to NJ and get it for $2.74.
If I didn't live at the PA/NJ border, I would've left NY years ago.

Chattanoogans used to cross the border into Ga for the same reason.
But over the past decade, the tax difference has reversed and now it's
cheaper there than here. When I make a trip to TN, I always top off
before crossing the state line.

Swill

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
I always top off
before crossing the state line.

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
Shouldn't be 1.50. Cost too much

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
Marathon was 2.64 this morning.
We can't act to cut Chinese
imports (e.g., impose tariffs) as they could dump our debt in
retaliation.

Wrong.

We can and have done so already:

http://www.dunntireblog.com/import-tariffs-impact-tire-pricing

Tariff on Chinese Tires

Chinese tiresIn 2009, the Obama Administration implemented a steep
tariff on imports of Chinese-made tires. The tire tariff was structured
with a 35 percent duty the first year, 30 percent the second and 25
percent the third. This is in addition to the 4% base tariff. The
intent of this regulation was to protect American jobs and save the tire
manufacturing industry in the US. According to Market Watch “U.S.
imports of Chinese tires rose from 14.6 million in 2004 to 46 million in
2008, accounting for about one-sixth of the U.S. market. Four U.S. tire
plants have closed in the past two years (2007-2008) and more than 5,000
workers have lost their jobs.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/business/global/us-sets-tariffs-on-chinese-solar-panels.html?_r=0

The Commerce Department issued its final ruling Wednesday in a
long-simmering trade dispute with China, imposing tariffs ranging from
about 24 to nearly 36 percent on most solar panels imported from the
country.

============================================================================


Once again Swillerator is caught in another LIE!!!!

You fucking vermin.

=============================================================================

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
Leftists behave the same way in reverse.

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[bookoflife.org]

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.

saudis lowered oil because obie allowss fracking here, and I support Obie 100% on his energy issues. He is doing a superb job and FU retardians.

[David Hartung]

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.
Return of the $3 Gallon? U.S Gas Prices Are Falling Fast
<http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-17/u-dot-s-dot-gas-price-falling-fast-time-for-the-return-of-the-3-gallon>
This all starts with the price of oil, which makes up 66 percent of
the cost of a gallon of regular gasoline. International crude prices
have fallen 16 percent since the end of June, and U.S. prices have
dropped more than 11 percent. Different parts of the country use
different sources of oil to make gasoline. Most imported blends of
light, sweet crude no longer come into the U.S. Gulf Coast, by far the
biggest refinery base in the U.S.
Refiners are also getting ready to switch to the winter blend of
gasoline, which is cheaper to produce but fetches lower prices. Over
the last three years, the price of gasoline from September to November
has fallen by an average of more than 30¢ a gallon. If that trend
continues in 2014, it could put prices in some parts of the country
below $3.
Unexpected events could always shake the oil marked. With the U.S. and
its allies planning to step up attacks on ISIS this fall, oil prices
could certainly spike by the end of the year. As long as U.S.
production keeps rising, however, it should help keep prices in check.

Yesterday, gas was available where I Live at $2.60/gallon.

[Kirby Grant]

Post by David Hartung

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.
Return of the $3 Gallon? U.S Gas Prices Are Falling Fast
<http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-17/u-dot-s-dot-gas-price-falling-fast-time-for-the-return-of-the-3-gallon>
This all starts with the price of oil, which makes up 66 percent of
the cost of a gallon of regular gasoline. International crude prices
have fallen 16 percent since the end of June, and U.S. prices have
dropped more than 11 percent. Different parts of the country use
different sources of oil to make gasoline. Most imported blends of
light, sweet crude no longer come into the U.S. Gulf Coast, by far the
biggest refinery base in the U.S.
Refiners are also getting ready to switch to the winter blend of
gasoline, which is cheaper to produce but fetches lower prices. Over
the last three years, the price of gasoline from September to November
has fallen by an average of more than 30¢ a gallon. If that trend
continues in 2014, it could put prices in some parts of the country
below $3.
Unexpected events could always shake the oil marked. With the U.S. and
its allies planning to step up attacks on ISIS this fall, oil prices
could certainly spike by the end of the year. As long as U.S.
production keeps rising, however, it should help keep prices in check.

Yesterday, gas was available where I Live at $2.60/gallon.

I have gas that I offer for free, although generally I have to eat a lot of
cabbage and beans before it is produced in significant amounts.

[Governor Swill]

Post by Kirby Grant
I have gas that I offer for free, although generally I have to eat a lot of
cabbage and beans before it is produced in significant amounts.

You can stop delivering it here anytime. :)

Swill

[Governor Swill]

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 22:39:09 -0500, Governor Swill

Inbred Peckerwoods Love Fuking their Fist over Kiddie Pornography
43 Stark County man sentenced for child pornography
http://fox8.com/2013/04/22/official-men-traveled-to-have-sex-with-children/
http://www.cantonrep.com/article/20140424/NEWS/140429495/10285/NEWS
A former Hartville resident has been sentenced to 14 years in
federal prison for having child pornography and sexual involvement
with minors, according to a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s office
in Cleveland.
Mark. A. Steffee, 43, was arrested on March 27, 2013, in the Parma
area after police said he solicited a 14-year-old girl to make adult
movies. Police say he went to Parma to pick up the girl, but was met
instead by police and agents with the Ohio Internet Crimes Against
Children Task Force.
Investigators later discovered child pornography on his computer
and, according to court records, Steffee later disclosed having a
sexual relationship with a 14-year-old girl in 2005.
Steffee was sentenced Wednesday in U.S. District Court in
Cleveland. He pleaded guilty in February to federal charges of having
child pornography and coercion or enticement of a female
Steffee had kept his behavior hidden from his family for years,
accepted responsibility for his actions and underwent intensive
counseling to better understand his problem, his attorney said in
pre-sentencing court filings.

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[crawling king snake]

You can stop delivering it here anytime.:)

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
You can stop delivering it here anytime.

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[crawling king snake]

Post by Kirby Grant
I have gas that I offer for free,

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

KStahl's death threat:

6/23/2012 12:29 PM

alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.elections,
alt.politics.media, seattle.politics

***@yahoo.com

<6WnFr.443151$***@news.usenetserver.com>

So tell me. What do you plan to do for all eternity in hell? You've
obviously created a situation where I have to make arrangements for that to
happen, so you better start figuring it out pretty quickly.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Matt]

Post by David Hartung

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.
Return of the $3 Gallon? U.S Gas Prices Are Falling Fast
<http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-17/u-dot-s-dot-gas-

price

Post by David Hartung

Post by Governor Swill
-falling-fast-time-for-the-return-of-the-3-gallon>
This all starts with the price of oil, which makes up 66 percent of
the cost of a gallon of regular gasoline. International crude prices
have fallen 16 percent since the end of June, and U.S. prices have
dropped more than 11 percent. Different parts of the country use
different sources of oil to make gasoline. Most imported blends of
light, sweet crude no longer come into the U.S. Gulf Coast, by far
the biggest refinery base in the U.S.
Refiners are also getting ready to switch to the winter blend of
gasoline, which is cheaper to produce but fetches lower prices. Over
the last three years, the price of gasoline from September to
November has fallen by an average of more than 30¢ a gallon. If that
trend continues in 2014, it could put prices in some parts of the
country below $3.
Unexpected events could always shake the oil marked. With the U.S.
and its allies planning to step up attacks on ISIS this fall, oil
prices could certainly spike by the end of the year. As long as U.S.
production keeps rising, however, it should help keep prices in check.

Yesterday, gas was available where I Live at $2.60/gallon.

Wow, nice. I saw it at 2.72 here and thought that was really low.
Of course, I was in California last week and prices had dropped down to
around 3.10, which is awfully low considering the taxes.

Matt

[First-Post]

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:11:49 -0600, David Hartung

Post by David Hartung

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.
Return of the $3 Gallon? U.S Gas Prices Are Falling Fast
<http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-17/u-dot-s-dot-gas-price-falling-fast-time-for-the-return-of-the-3-gallon>
This all starts with the price of oil, which makes up 66 percent of
the cost of a gallon of regular gasoline. International crude prices
have fallen 16 percent since the end of June, and U.S. prices have
dropped more than 11 percent. Different parts of the country use
different sources of oil to make gasoline. Most imported blends of
light, sweet crude no longer come into the U.S. Gulf Coast, by far the
biggest refinery base in the U.S.
Refiners are also getting ready to switch to the winter blend of
gasoline, which is cheaper to produce but fetches lower prices. Over
the last three years, the price of gasoline from September to November
has fallen by an average of more than 30¢ a gallon. If that trend
continues in 2014, it could put prices in some parts of the country
below $3.
Unexpected events could always shake the oil marked. With the U.S. and
its allies planning to step up attacks on ISIS this fall, oil prices
could certainly spike by the end of the year. As long as U.S.
production keeps rising, however, it should help keep prices in check.

Yesterday, gas was available where I Live at $2.60/gallon.

Filled up down at Batesville yesterday at the Shell station at I-55
and HWY 6 for $2.44 a gallon. The BP across the street from it had
the same price as well as Love's Truck Stop at exit 242.

Currently at the Marathon station up the road from my office gas is at
$2.53 a gallon
In some areas of town it is as low as $2.39
http://www.memphisgasprices.com/



Showing what lying idiots the left is for going on ten years now:

http://democratshallofshame.net/

[David Hartung]

Post by First-Post
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:11:49 -0600, David Hartung

Post by David Hartung

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.
Return of the $3 Gallon? U.S Gas Prices Are Falling Fast
<http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-17/u-dot-s-dot-gas-price-falling-fast-time-for-the-return-of-the-3-gallon>
This all starts with the price of oil, which makes up 66 percent of
the cost of a gallon of regular gasoline. International crude prices
have fallen 16 percent since the end of June, and U.S. prices have
dropped more than 11 percent. Different parts of the country use
different sources of oil to make gasoline. Most imported blends of
light, sweet crude no longer come into the U.S. Gulf Coast, by far the
biggest refinery base in the U.S.
Refiners are also getting ready to switch to the winter blend of
gasoline, which is cheaper to produce but fetches lower prices. Over
the last three years, the price of gasoline from September to November
has fallen by an average of more than 30¢ a gallon. If that trend
continues in 2014, it could put prices in some parts of the country
below $3.
Unexpected events could always shake the oil marked. With the U.S. and
its allies planning to step up attacks on ISIS this fall, oil prices
could certainly spike by the end of the year. As long as U.S.
production keeps rising, however, it should help keep prices in check.

Yesterday, gas was available where I Live at $2.60/gallon.

Filled up down at Batesville yesterday at the Shell station at I-55
and HWY 6 for $2.44 a gallon. The BP across the street from it had
the same price as well as Love's Truck Stop at exit 242.
Currently at the Marathon station up the road from my office gas is at
$2.53 a gallon
In some areas of town it is as low as $2.39
http://www.memphisgasprices.com/

Wonder how low it will get.

I have noticed that gas in the Southaven area runs about 8-10 cents a
gallon less than in Starkville.

[First-Post]

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 13:57:42 -0600, David Hartung

Post by David Hartung

Post by First-Post
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:11:49 -0600, David Hartung

Post by David Hartung

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.
Return of the $3 Gallon? U.S Gas Prices Are Falling Fast
<http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-17/u-dot-s-dot-gas-price-falling-fast-time-for-the-return-of-the-3-gallon>
This all starts with the price of oil, which makes up 66 percent of
the cost of a gallon of regular gasoline. International crude prices
have fallen 16 percent since the end of June, and U.S. prices have
dropped more than 11 percent. Different parts of the country use
different sources of oil to make gasoline. Most imported blends of
light, sweet crude no longer come into the U.S. Gulf Coast, by far the
biggest refinery base in the U.S.
Refiners are also getting ready to switch to the winter blend of
gasoline, which is cheaper to produce but fetches lower prices. Over
the last three years, the price of gasoline from September to November
has fallen by an average of more than 30¢ a gallon. If that trend
continues in 2014, it could put prices in some parts of the country
below $3.
Unexpected events could always shake the oil marked. With the U.S. and
its allies planning to step up attacks on ISIS this fall, oil prices
could certainly spike by the end of the year. As long as U.S.
production keeps rising, however, it should help keep prices in check.

Yesterday, gas was available where I Live at $2.60/gallon.

Filled up down at Batesville yesterday at the Shell station at I-55
and HWY 6 for $2.44 a gallon. The BP across the street from it had
the same price as well as Love's Truck Stop at exit 242.
Currently at the Marathon station up the road from my office gas is at
$2.53 a gallon
In some areas of town it is as low as $2.39
http://www.memphisgasprices.com/

Wonder how low it will get.
I have noticed that gas in the Southaven area runs about 8-10 cents a
gallon less than in Starkville.

What's wierd is it is cheaper in Batesville than up here where the
refinery is. For years it's averaged around a dime more down there
but the trend has flipped recently.
It dropped 4 cents at the Marathon today. Just filled up again for
$2.49 this afternoon.

[David Hartung]

Post by First-Post
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 13:57:42 -0600, David Hartung

Post by David Hartung

Post by First-Post
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:11:49 -0600, David Hartung

Post by David Hartung

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.
Return of the $3 Gallon? U.S Gas Prices Are Falling Fast
<http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-17/u-dot-s-dot-gas-price-falling-fast-time-for-the-return-of-the-3-gallon>
This all starts with the price of oil, which makes up 66 percent of
the cost of a gallon of regular gasoline. International crude prices
have fallen 16 percent since the end of June, and U.S. prices have
dropped more than 11 percent. Different parts of the country use
different sources of oil to make gasoline. Most imported blends of
light, sweet crude no longer come into the U.S. Gulf Coast, by far the
biggest refinery base in the U.S.
Refiners are also getting ready to switch to the winter blend of
gasoline, which is cheaper to produce but fetches lower prices. Over
the last three years, the price of gasoline from September to November
has fallen by an average of more than 30¢ a gallon. If that trend
continues in 2014, it could put prices in some parts of the country
below $3.
Unexpected events could always shake the oil marked. With the U.S. and
its allies planning to step up attacks on ISIS this fall, oil prices
could certainly spike by the end of the year. As long as U.S.
production keeps rising, however, it should help keep prices in check.

Yesterday, gas was available where I Live at $2.60/gallon.

Filled up down at Batesville yesterday at the Shell station at I-55
and HWY 6 for $2.44 a gallon. The BP across the street from it had
the same price as well as Love's Truck Stop at exit 242.
Currently at the Marathon station up the road from my office gas is at
$2.53 a gallon
In some areas of town it is as low as $2.39
http://www.memphisgasprices.com/

Wonder how low it will get.
I have noticed that gas in the Southaven area runs about 8-10 cents a
gallon less than in Starkville.

What's wierd is it is cheaper in Batesville than up here where the
refinery is. For years it's averaged around a dime more down there
but the trend has flipped recently.
It dropped 4 cents at the Marathon today. Just filled up again for
$2.49 this afternoon.

it has dropped about 10 cents here the past week.

[David Hartung]

Post by First-Post
What's wierd is it is cheaper in Batesville than up here where the
refinery is.

Now you've gone and done it! Now the liberals will attack the fact that
Memphis has one of those nasty carbon polluting refineries! :)

[First-Post]

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:08:16 -0600, David Hartung

Post by David Hartung

Post by First-Post
What's wierd is it is cheaper in Batesville than up here where the
refinery is.

Now you've gone and done it! Now the liberals will attack the fact that
Memphis has one of those nasty carbon polluting refineries! :)

Nothing new about that.
Even though the Memphis refinery now operated by Valero has had an
immaculate record in regards to safety and pollution ever since the
pipeline from Memphis to the Gulf was completed.
Another funny bit of trivial info: The Valero gas stations here are
higher priced than any of the other brands. And all brands in this
area are produced by that refinery. Doesn't matter if it's BP, Exxon,
Marathon, Citgo etc. The refinery produces them all per the brands
individual specs. Which is how most refineries work since they are
simply contractors providing a service to the oil companies.

[Governor Swill]

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:34:34 -0600, First-Post

Post by First-Post
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:08:16 -0600, David Hartung

Post by David Hartung

Post by First-Post
What's wierd is it is cheaper in Batesville than up here where the
refinery is.

Now you've gone and done it! Now the liberals will attack the fact that
Memphis has one of those nasty carbon polluting refineries! :)

Nothing new about that.
Even though the Memphis refinery now operated by Valero has had an
immaculate record in regards to safety and pollution ever since the
pipeline from Memphis to the Gulf was completed.
Another funny bit of trivial info: The Valero gas stations here are
higher priced than any of the other brands. And all brands in this
area are produced by that refinery. Doesn't matter if it's BP, Exxon,
Marathon, Citgo etc. The refinery produces them all per the brands
individual specs. Which is how most refineries work since they are
simply contractors providing a service to the oil companies.

When I worked in the industry many years ago, all the gas in the
pipeline was the same. I worked less than a mile from a regional
"tank farm". My delivery guy told me they send regular unleaded
through the pipes. The grade difference was due to additives mixed
into at the tanks but the refinery only had to produce the one grade.

Swill

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
When I worked in the industry many years ago,

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[Governor Swill]

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 13:57:42 -0600, David Hartung

Post by David Hartung

Post by First-Post
Currently at the Marathon station up the road from my office gas is at
$2.53 a gallon
In some areas of town it is as low as $2.39
http://www.memphisgasprices.com/

Wonder how low it will get.

I dunno but I'll go out on a lib and say we might get another 20 cents
off before the spring climb. It usually spikes up a bit during the
Xmas shopping season.

Swill

[crawling king snake]

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 22:43:08 -0500, Governor Swill

Inbred Peckerwoods Love Fuking their Fist over Kiddie Pornography
43 Stark County man sentenced for child pornography
http://fox8.com/2013/04/22/official-men-traveled-to-have-sex-with-children/
http://www.cantonrep.com/article/20140424/NEWS/140429495/10285/NEWS
A former Hartville resident has been sentenced to 14 years in
federal prison for having child pornography and sexual involvement
with minors, according to a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s office
in Cleveland.
Mark. A. Steffee, 43, was arrested on March 27, 2013, in the Parma
area after police said he solicited a 14-year-old girl to make adult
movies. Police say he went to Parma to pick up the girl, but was met
instead by police and agents with the Ohio Internet Crimes Against
Children Task Force.
Investigators later discovered child pornography on his computer
and, according to court records, Steffee later disclosed having a
sexual relationship with a 14-year-old girl in 2005.
Steffee was sentenced Wednesday in U.S. District Court in
Cleveland. He pleaded guilty in February to federal charges of having
child pornography and coercion or enticement of a female
Steffee had kept his behavior hidden from his family for years,
accepted responsibility for his actions and underwent intensive
counseling to better understand his problem, his attorney said in
pre-sentencing court filings.

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ***@netfront.net ---

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
I dunno but I'll go out on a lib and say

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[Y***@Jurgis.net]

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:11:49 -0600, David Hartung

Post by David Hartung
Yesterday, gas was available where I Live at $2.60/gallon.

What was the price when you marched up to the polling places to vote
for the bastards that made $3+ possible, Hartung?

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Post by First-Post
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:11:49 -0600, David Hartung

Post by David Hartung
Yesterday, gas was available where I Live at $2.60/gallon.

What was the price when you marched up to the polling places to vote
for the bastards that made $3+ possible, Hartung?

And Obama policy lost at the voting booth two weeks ago.

[Governor Swill]

Post by BeamMeUpScotty

Post by First-Post
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:11:49 -0600, David Hartung

Post by David Hartung
Yesterday, gas was available where I Live at $2.60/gallon.

What was the price when you marched up to the polling places to vote
for the bastards that made $3+ possible, Hartung?

And Obama policy lost at the voting booth two weeks ago.

Which proves a point I've often made. Seems the Republicans are in
power usually when the economy tanks. They're almost always in power
for the big economic tanks. So the public gets mad, puts the Dems in
office and about the time the economy has healed, the Reps get back
into power and restart the cycle.

Swill

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
They're almost always in power
for the big economic tanks.

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
the Reps get back
into power and restart the cycle.

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[Eddie Haskell]

Post by First-Post
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:11:49 -0600, David Hartung

Post by David Hartung
Yesterday, gas was available where I Live at $2.60/gallon.

What was the price when you marched up to the polling places to vote
for the bastards that made $3+ possible, Hartung?

Fuck off, you goddamn lying nigger.

http://youtu.be/t4Tmi_fpUHs

"We have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in
Europe."

-Energy secratary Chu

-Eddie Haskell

[Governor Swill]

Post by First-Post
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:11:49 -0600, David Hartung

Post by David Hartung
Yesterday, gas was available where I Live at $2.60/gallon.

What was the price when you marched up to the polling places to vote
for the bastards that made $3+ possible, Hartung?

Oh, please, Yoorghis, get over it already will you? Everything isn't
Washington's fault and the only responsibility Obama has for cheap gas
now is that he hasn't restricted fracking and didn't leave the ban on
gulf drilling. The result has been increased production in the US and
that's been the single biggest supply factor.

If you want the truth, that fracking started while Bush was in office.
Most of the permits currently in use for wells and well development
were issued years ago.

Swill

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
get over it already will you?

On 10/9/2014 12:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:> Swill

Post by Governor Swill
-- What Republicans are really scared of is that the economy *won't
stop* getting better.

Let's bookmark and archive this as your ignominious return to the
political groups this mid term election year with the predictable
anti-Republican, wildly hyperbolic and mendacious rhetoric.

Let's also recall that during the ensuing month you would play at being
a conservative, play at taking a few shots at Dems, and generally work
both sides of the street - oft times simultaneously - in your desperate
attempt to assault Republicans and influence swing state and independent
voters.

Let's remind anyone who regularly reads you that you are a total fraud,
a political imposter, and a paid Democrat shill.

Let's cement that there is no honesty in you, that any and all things
you say are instantaneously suspect, and that your agenda is the
destruction of all things even remotely conservative.

Let's share this with general readership, secure in the knowledge that
they are far less easily fooled than you and your cynically manipulative
Dem handlers had ever believed.

Let's cite this mid term swing election as proof that no one is fooled,
cajoled, or herded by your absurd "both ends against the middle "
schtick here.

Let's write your Usenet epitaph as that of a crude, evil, and amoral
manipulator and a person of little or no credibility under even
apolitical circumstances.

Let's flush and be done with you - subhuman Dem turd.

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
Funny, rightists have been
We can't act to cut Chinese
imports (e.g., impose tariffs) as they could dump our debt in
retaliation.

Wrong.

We can and have done so already:

http://www.dunntireblog.com/import-tariffs-impact-tire-pricing

Tariff on Chinese Tires

Chinese tiresIn 2009, the Obama Administration implemented a steep
tariff on imports of Chinese-made tires. The tire tariff was structured
with a 35 percent duty the first year, 30 percent the second and 25
percent the third. This is in addition to the 4% base tariff. The
intent of this regulation was to protect American jobs and save the tire
manufacturing industry in the US. According to Market Watch “U.S.
imports of Chinese tires rose from 14.6 million in 2004 to 46 million in
2008, accounting for about one-sixth of the U.S. market. Four U.S. tire
plants have closed in the past two years (2007-2008) and more than 5,000
workers have lost their jobs.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/business/global/us-sets-tariffs-on-chinese-solar-panels.html?_r=0

The Commerce Department issued its final ruling Wednesday in a
long-simmering trade dispute with China, imposing tariffs ranging from
about 24 to nearly 36 percent on most solar panels imported from the
country.

============================================================================


Once again Swillerator is caught in another LIE!!!!

You fucking vermin.

=============================================================================

[crawling king snake]

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon
We can't act to cut Chinese
imports (e.g., impose tariffs) as they could dump our debt in
retaliation.

Wrong.

We can and have done so already:

http://www.dunntireblog.com/import-tariffs-impact-tire-pricing

Tariff on Chinese Tires

Chinese tiresIn 2009, the Obama Administration implemented a steep
tariff on imports of Chinese-made tires. The tire tariff was structured
with a 35 percent duty the first year, 30 percent the second and 25
percent the third. This is in addition to the 4% base tariff. The
intent of this regulation was to protect American jobs and save the tire
manufacturing industry in the US. According to Market Watch “U.S.
imports of Chinese tires rose from 14.6 million in 2004 to 46 million in
2008, accounting for about one-sixth of the U.S. market. Four U.S. tire
plants have closed in the past two years (2007-2008) and more than 5,000
workers have lost their jobs.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/business/global/us-sets-tariffs-on-chinese-solar-panels.html?_r=0

The Commerce Department issued its final ruling Wednesday in a
long-simmering trade dispute with China, imposing tariffs ranging from
about 24 to nearly 36 percent on most solar panels imported from the
country.

============================================================================


Once again Swillerator is caught in another LIE!!!!

You fucking vermin.

=============================================================================

[Eddie Haskell]

Post by Governor Swill
Gas at my local Marathon was 2.68 yesterday.
Funny, rightists have been blaming Obama for high gas prices
(apparently they don't consider Chinese demand relevant) but I don't
see them in here thanking him for bringing them back down.

That's because it coming down in spite of your nigger, you stupid lying
motherfucker.

"We have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in
Europe."

-Energy secretary Chu

And if gas prices were going up you'd find a way to praise your fucking
nigger for that too.

Because you're an insulting to the intelligence goddamned LIAR.

And your goddamned lying is destroying my country, you piece of shit
motherfucker.

Now go to goddamn hell where you belong.

-Eddie Haskell