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Why Professors Object to Being Recorded
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Joe Cooper
2017-02-21 14:11:31 UTC
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After the election of Donald Trump as president, a professor at Orange
Coast College in California, Olga Perez Stable Cox, went into an extended
hate-rant against the president-elect. Among other things, she described
the Trump election as an “act of terrorism,” labelled him a “white
supremacist” and called Vice-President-Elect Mike Pence “one of the most
anti-gay humans in this country.”

And this wasn’t even a political science class in which one might expect
political talk, no matter how irresponsible. Stable Cox is a professor of
human sexuality.

When a student who recorded the diatribe posted the recording on social
media, the professor’s union, the Coast Federation of Educators, AFT
local chapter 1911, posted this message on Facebook:

“This is an illegal recording without the permission of the instructor.
The student will be identified and may be facing legal action.”

According to the union, the recording, “violate[s] the professor's course
syllabus, the Coast Community College District Code of Student Conduct,
and the California Educational Code, section 78907, which exist to
provide a robust, learning environment for all students irrespective of
their opinions.”

The aforementioned California Educational Code states:

“The use by any person, including a student, of any electronic listening
or recording device in any classroom without the prior consent of the
instructor is prohibited. . . .”

The American Association of University Professors has long opposed
unauthorized recording and public posting of what professors say in
classrooms.

As it happens, I was a college teacher for two years at Brooklyn College.
I recall students asking me if they could record my lectures. And I
remember thinking, “Why on earth would I say no?”

I wanted whatever I said in a classroom to be heard by more than 50
people. “Who wouldn’t?” I wondered.

Here, then, is my theory as to why most professors who object to their
class lectures being recorded do so:

They fear having what they say exposed to the general public.

Our colleges, universities, (and an increasing number of high schools and
elementary schools) have been transformed from educational institutions
into indoctrination institutions. With the left-wing takeover of
universities, their primary aim has become graduating as many leftists as
possible.

The vast majority of our colleges have become left-wing seminaries. Just
as Christian seminaries exist to produce committed Christians, Western
universities exist to produce committed leftists. Aside from the
Christian-Leftism difference, universities differ in only one respect
from Christian seminaries. Christian seminaries admit their goal, whereas
the universities deceive the public about theirs.

Thus, in the “social sciences” – disciplines outside the natural sciences
and math – a large number of college teachers inject their politics into
their classrooms. And if they are recorded, the general public will
become aware of just how politicized their classroom lectures are.

But there is another reason.

Most professors objecting to being recorded know on some level that they
are persuasive only when their audience is composed largely of very young
people just out of high school. They know that if their ideas are exposed
to adults, they may be revealed as intellectual lightweights.

Students, therefore need to understand that when their professor objects
to being recorded, it is a statement of contempt for them. The professor
is, in effect, saying to his or her students:

“Listen, I can get away with this intellectually shallow, emotion-based,
propaganda when you are the only people who actually hear it. You aren’t
wise enough to perceive it as such. But if enough people over 21 years of
age hear it, I’m toast.”

If a professor meets privately with a student, all rules governing the
recording of conversations without permission should apply.

But when a professor stands in front of a class, he or she is in the
public domain. Moreover, the public is paying at least part of this
professor’s salary at virtually every university. We therefore have a
right and even a duty to know what professors say publicly in classrooms.

In fact, I would encourage every student who cares about truth and
intellectual honesty to record what their professors say in class. I
would also encourage every parent to find out what they are paying for.
And I would likewise encourage professors to record themselves in order
to protect themselves against doctored material.

Any professor who is not ashamed of what he or she is saying in class
should welcome being recorded.

And any student taking a class with a professor who objects to being
recorded should know that this objection is almost always equivalent to
the professor saying: “I want you to hear what I say in class, because
I’m quite confident that you can’t differentiate between instruction and
indoctrination. But if what I say goes public, people who do know the
difference will expose me as a propagandist.”

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Siri Cruise
2017-02-21 21:54:06 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
They fear having what they say exposed to the general public.
They fear having excerpts rearranged and out of context to make it appear they
say something other than what they did. It also can record students who might
not want to be recorded.
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#BeamMeUpScotty
2017-02-21 22:21:49 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Joe Cooper
They fear having what they say exposed to the general public.
They fear having excerpts rearranged and out of context to make it appear they
say something other than what they did. It also can record students who might
not want to be recorded.
All they need to do is copywrite their lectures....

For professors they sure aren't very smart.
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None of the Above
2017-02-22 06:38:44 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Joe Cooper
They fear having what they say exposed to the general public.
They fear having excerpts rearranged and out of context to make it appear they
say something other than what they did.
..thus, making it falsely appear the professor was not a complete
moron.
Post by Siri Cruise
It also can record students who might
not want to be recorded.
Without video, hard to tell who is snoring.

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