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Democrats' biggest push for voting rights is set to fail with no Republicans on board
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a322x1n
2021-10-20 19:46:15 UTC
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Senate Democrats biggest and perhaps last push this year for major
voting rights legislation is headed for near-certain defeat on
Wednesday because of widespread opposition from Republicans. That's
despite the Democrats' effort to craft a compromise bill led in part
by Sen. Joe Manchin, legislation that the West Virginia Democrat hoped
he could use to get enough GOP votes to overcome a filibuster.
Democrats say federal voting legislation is needed to counteract a
wave of new restrictions from Republican-controlled state legislatures
across the country. Critics of those laws say they are making it more
difficult to vote, particularly for people of color.
"Democrats are ready to have this debate right now," Senate Majority
Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., told reporters Tuesday, describing the
legislation as a "a bill that every Senate Democrat is united behind,
enthusiastically."
The bill would among other things establish Election Day as a national
holiday, set national minimum standards for early voting and voting by
mail, and create new requirements for groups not currently required to
disclose their financial donors. It also includes standards for states
that require voter identification, something that was a priority of
Manchin.
https://www.npr.org/2021/10/20/1040238982/senate-democrats-are-pushing-
a-voting-rights-bill-republicans-have-vowed-to-bloc
You could possibly make a case that what the Democrats want to do is
not the proper business of the federal government, but of course
that's not why Republiscums/QAnon oppose it. Republiscums/QAnon
oppose it because they don't believe in democracy.
Fuck off with your "We're a ree-PUBBBB-lick, NOT a duh-MAHHHHH-cracy"
bullshit bleating. We are both a republic *and* a democracy. This is
settled.
"The United States is both a ‘republic’ and a ‘democracy’ —
because ‘democracy’ is like ‘cash’"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/11/14/the
-united-states-is-both-a-republic-and-a-democracy-because-democracy-is-
like-cash/
Volokh is right and the right-wingnuts are wrong, and that's that.
The Democrats never, ever, miss a chance to snatch defeat from the
jaws of victory!

The Democrats know damn well they're going to lose seats at the
mid-term elections. That can't be helped.

But! Those seats, and eventually the Oval Office, will _stay_ in
Republican hands if Red State voter suppression laws and
gerrymandering are not delt with.

So, what happens? The fillibuster is kept (never mind it was
stopped to fill court seats) and no serious effort is made to
pass new voting rights acts. The "Trump" Supreme Court can be
fully expected to keep voter suppression and gerrymandering on
the books, no matter what the intent or effect. For a good
part of this century, expect Republican conservatism to control
America, democracy weakened, civil rights watered down, and a
host of other measures to make sure Republicans keep power.

When the Republicans take the Senate back, I doubt they'll let
the fillibuster stop them. Democrats will stand in the corner
sucking their thumbs crying, "bipartisenship".

Go figure!
Lamey
2021-10-20 21:59:37 UTC
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Post by a322x1n
Senate Democrats biggest and perhaps last push this year for major
voting rights legislation is headed for near-certain defeat on
Wednesday because of widespread opposition from Republicans. That's
despite the Democrats' effort to craft a compromise bill led in part
by Sen. Joe Manchin, legislation that the West Virginia Democrat hoped
he could use to get enough GOP votes to overcome a filibuster.
Democrats say federal voting legislation is needed to counteract a
wave of new restrictions from Republican-controlled state legislatures
across the country. Critics of those laws say they are making it more
difficult to vote, particularly for people of color.
"Democrats are ready to have this debate right now," Senate Majority
Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., told reporters Tuesday, describing the
legislation as a "a bill that every Senate Democrat is united behind,
enthusiastically."
The bill would among other things establish Election Day as a national
holiday, set national minimum standards for early voting and voting by
mail, and create new requirements for groups not currently required to
disclose their financial donors. It also includes standards for states
that require voter identification, something that was a priority of
Manchin.
https://www.npr.org/2021/10/20/1040238982/senate-democrats-are-pushing-
a-voting-rights-bill-republicans-have-vowed-to-bloc
You could possibly make a case that what the Democrats want to do is
not the proper business of the federal government, but of course
that's not why Republiscums/QAnon oppose it. Republiscums/QAnon
oppose it because they don't believe in democracy.
Fuck off with your "We're a ree-PUBBBB-lick, NOT a duh-MAHHHHH-cracy"
bullshit bleating. We are both a republic *and* a democracy. This is
settled.
"The United States is both a ‘republic’ and a ‘democracy’ —
because ‘democracy’ is like ‘cash’"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/11/14/the
-united-states-is-both-a-republic-and-a-democracy-because-democracy-is-
like-cash/
Volokh is right and the right-wingnuts are wrong, and that's that.
The Democrats never, ever, miss a chance to snatch defeat from the
jaws of victory!
Even if it means cheating.
Post by a322x1n
The Democrats know damn well they're going to lose seats at the
mid-term elections. That can't be helped.
Dry those tears.
Post by a322x1n
But! Those seats, and eventually the Oval Office, will _stay_ in
Republican hands if Red State voter suppression laws and
gerrymandering are not delt with.
We don't cheat, we keep it from happening.
Post by a322x1n
So, what happens? The fillibuster is kept (never mind it was
stopped to fill court seats) and no serious effort is made to
pass new voting rights acts. The "Trump" Supreme Court can be
fully expected to keep voter suppression and gerrymandering on
the books, no matter what the intent or effect. For a good
part of this century, expect Republican conservatism to control
America, democracy weakened, civil rights watered down, and a
host of other measures to make sure Republicans keep power.
When the Republicans take the Senate back, I doubt they'll let
the fillibuster stop them. Democrats will stand in the corner
sucking their thumbs crying, "bipartisenship".
LOL, what a dumbass.

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