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Atheist ad campaigner admits her beliefs wont stand up to a test of proof! 8^o
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fasgnadh
2009-01-15 08:12:28 UTC
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When Atheist ad campaigner Ariane Sherine put her beliefs
on the side of a bus she copied Beer manufacturers who
qualify their unprovable claims to avoid litigation!!

Sherine, and the Atheists supporting her, including
Richard Dawkins, know they can't PROVE their beliefs,
and so they used the same fudge as LYING drug dealers use
to falsely misrepresent their product! 8^o



Sherine was clearly annoyed that the theist ads she
had misrepresented as likely to cause people
to throw themselves under the bus received only
one other complaint;

"When I called the Advertising Standards Authority,
the nice lady said they'd only received two
complaints about the bus ads, neither of which
had been investigated, because "The quotations
used are clearly from the Bible and there's
nothing in the advertising standards code to
prohibit advertising a religious message. The
website is not part of our remit."

I then asked her about another unrelated ad:
was it okay for Carlsberg to say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world"?
She thought so: "We haven't upheld a complaint
against them."

After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
from litigation."

So the Atheist bus ad's equivocation is stolen
from the Booze industry's patent dishonesty, as
a means of expressing an UNPROVABLE ASSERTION
(no more than a BELIEF) from the demand for PROOF!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAA

Atheists have not changed since the days of Pravda,
the most ironically named Newspaper in history! B^p

"... it's possible that we can fund a much-needed
atheist London bus ad with the slogan:

"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and get
on with your life."

No wonder the Atheists run and hide when challenged
to provide evidence for their BULLSHIT BELIEFS!!!

a) no one was worried in the first place

b) Sherine fabricated the alleged cause pf concern

c) Sherine hysterically fantasised absurd consequences

d) There is no logical connection between the advice
and the fabricated atheist fears.

e) The Atheists knew they have no evidence for their
beliefs, and so used advertising scams used by the
drug dealers to protect themselves from action! B^D

Dawkins and Sherine fudged their ad to protect themselves
from the DEMAND FOR EVIDENCE, a tactic taken from others who
want to avoid the TRUTH!


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion
Don H
2009-01-15 18:58:50 UTC
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Post by fasgnadh
When Atheist ad campaigner Ariane Sherine put her beliefs
on the side of a bus she copied Beer manufacturers who
qualify their unprovable claims to avoid litigation!!
Sherine, and the Atheists supporting her, including
Richard Dawkins, know they can't PROVE their beliefs,
and so they used the same fudge as LYING drug dealers use
to falsely misrepresent their product! 8^o
Sherine was clearly annoyed that the theist ads she
had misrepresented as likely to cause people
to throw themselves under the bus received only
one other complaint;
"When I called the Advertising Standards Authority,
the nice lady said they'd only received two
complaints about the bus ads, neither of which
had been investigated, because "The quotations
used are clearly from the Bible and there's
nothing in the advertising standards code to
prohibit advertising a religious message. The
website is not part of our remit."
was it okay for Carlsberg to say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world"?
She thought so: "We haven't upheld a complaint
against them."
After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
from litigation."
So the Atheist bus ad's equivocation is stolen
from the Booze industry's patent dishonesty, as
a means of expressing an UNPROVABLE ASSERTION
(no more than a BELIEF) from the demand for PROOF!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAA
Atheists have not changed since the days of Pravda,
the most ironically named Newspaper in history! B^p
"... it's possible that we can fund a much-needed
"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and get
on with your life."
No wonder the Atheists run and hide when challenged
to provide evidence for their BULLSHIT BELIEFS!!!
a) no one was worried in the first place
b) Sherine fabricated the alleged cause pf concern
c) Sherine hysterically fantasised absurd consequences
d) There is no logical connection between the advice
and the fabricated atheist fears.
e) The Atheists knew they have no evidence for their
beliefs, and so used advertising scams used by the
drug dealers to protect themselves from action! B^D
Dawkins and Sherine fudged their ad to protect themselves
from the DEMAND FOR EVIDENCE, a tactic taken from others who
want to avoid the TRUTH!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion
# What is the alternative to atheism? - theism, ie. that a God, god, or
goddess, exists. (If we ignore polytheism, deism, pantheism, etc).
All gods are human inventions, and hark back in history, to the fevered
imaginings of primitive humans. The ban on graven images left gods as
images only in the human brain, that over-specialised aspect of the human
ape which we think is our greatest boon, but could equally well be our
undoing.
"God", as now portrayed by monotheism, is the final attenuated and
cosmic generalisation, of all those tribal gods and goddesses of the past.
The tribal Israelites had Yahweh; their neighbours, Baal, etc. Theism is a
form of ignorance, a relic of Ancestor Worship.
"God" is variously described as Father, Lord, King, and Creator, these
terms in themselves encapsulating the history of theistic evolution - from
family, tribe, city, and world, as the fear of the dead Old Man (or woman)
left his memory to haunt his offspring, so they sought supplication from his
wrath, by prayer and peace-offering.
The ritual cannibalism of the Mass, or Communion, harks back to real
human, then animal, sacrifice, and there is little difference between
priest, imam, or rabbi - and witchdoctor - except they are modern and
socially acceptable.
The Onus of Proof is on Theists to prove their deity actually exists,
except as a figment of their imagination.
Atheism is the human animal's natural state - as all animals (except us)
go by evidence of their senses in an empirical world, not by wild
imaginings. If oxen had a god it would be in form of an ox - as an ancient
philosopher noted.
The harping on totalitarian Communist excesses neglects the
Enlightenment, and such democratic groups as Rationalists and Humanists -
and that Communism was implemented as any dogmatic religion is.
Of course, Eternal Life Insurance (ELI), to whom the Executive (God &
Son, Inc) and sacred Prospectus (never to be questioned) is a vested
interest, doesn't want its fraudulent claims too closely scrutinised, which
is why the dreaded Atheism is to be denigrated, blackened, and condemned.
So, folks, pay your Premiums of weekly church attendance, but if you
expect to gain Eternal Life in due course, then you have a horrid shock
awaiting you - as when you're dead, you're merely dead.
Heaven may exist, but there is no stampede to the graveyard. Suicide
bombers? If a person has nothing to lose, even life itself seems cheap, and
if he can die and take the hated enemy with him, then revenge looks good -
and lots of virgins in Paradise is a welcome delusion.
fan of HCL, Jr
2009-01-15 22:59:42 UTC
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- Show quoted text -
Well said.
fasgnadh
2009-01-26 03:42:04 UTC
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Post by Don H
Post by fasgnadh
When Atheist ad campaigner Ariane Sherine put her beliefs
on the side of a bus she copied Beer manufacturers who
qualify their unprovable claims to avoid litigation!!
Sherine, and the Atheists supporting her, including
Richard Dawkins, know they can't PROVE their beliefs,
and so they used the same fudge as LYING drug dealers use
to falsely misrepresent their product! 8^o
Sherine was clearly annoyed that the theist ads she
had misrepresented as likely to cause people
to throw themselves under the bus received only
one other complaint;
"When I called the Advertising Standards Authority,
the nice lady said they'd only received two
complaints about the bus ads, neither of which
had been investigated, because "The quotations
used are clearly from the Bible and there's
nothing in the advertising standards code to
prohibit advertising a religious message. The
website is not part of our remit."
was it okay for Carlsberg to say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world"?
She thought so: "We haven't upheld a complaint
against them."
After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
from litigation."
So the Atheist bus ad's equivocation is stolen
from the Booze industry's patent dishonesty, as
a means of expressing an UNPROVABLE ASSERTION
(no more than a BELIEF) from the demand for PROOF!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAA
Atheists have not changed since the days of Pravda,
the most ironically named Newspaper in history! B^p
"... it's possible that we can fund a much-needed
"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and get
on with your life."
No wonder the Atheists run and hide when challenged
to provide evidence for their BULLSHIT BELIEFS!!!
a) no one was worried in the first place
b) Sherine fabricated the alleged cause of concern
c) Sherine hysterically fantasised absurd consequences
d) There is no logical connection between the advice
and the fabricated atheist fears.
e) The Atheists knew they have no evidence for their
beliefs, and so used advertising scams used by the
drug dealers to protect themselves from action! B^D
Dawkins and Sherine fudged their ad to protect themselves
from the DEMAND FOR EVIDENCE, a tactic taken from others who
want to avoid the TRUTH!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion
# What is the alternative to atheism?
In this case, telling the truth! B^D

Other alternatives include, agnosticism, golf, sticking your
head up your arse ..but ah.. I see you are doing that already!

Why do atheists always try to avoid the facts about atheism
by trying to change the subject to their eternal obsession;
Post by Don H
- theism,
It's a shabby attempt at ground-shifting and an intellectually
dishonest ploy, which compounds the intellectual dishonesty
of Atheists revealed in the post above.

As you have nothing to say on the matter, and your very first
line is a patent absurdity. I leave you to rant away in another
irrelevant Atheist Avoidance exercise:

Another list of Atheist BELEIFS, sans evidence;

ie. that a God, god, or
Post by Don H
goddess, exists. (If we ignore polytheism, deism, pantheism, etc).
All gods are human inventions, and hark back in history, to the fevered
imaginings of primitive humans. The ban on graven images left gods as
images only in the human brain, that over-specialised aspect of the human
ape which we think is our greatest boon, but could equally well be our
undoing.
"God", as now portrayed by monotheism, is the final attenuated and
cosmic generalisation, of all those tribal gods and goddesses of the past.
The tribal Israelites had Yahweh; their neighbours, Baal, etc. Theism is a
form of ignorance, a relic of Ancestor Worship.
"God" is variously described as Father, Lord, King, and Creator, these
terms in themselves encapsulating the history of theistic evolution - from
family, tribe, city, and world, as the fear of the dead Old Man (or woman)
left his memory to haunt his offspring, so they sought supplication from his
wrath, by prayer and peace-offering.
The ritual cannibalism of the Mass, or Communion, harks back to real
human, then animal, sacrifice, and there is little difference between
priest, imam, or rabbi - and witchdoctor - except they are modern and
socially acceptable.
The Onus of Proof is on Theists to prove their deity actually exists,
except as a figment of their imagination.
Atheism is the human animal's natural state - as all animals (except us)
go by evidence of their senses in an empirical world, not by wild
imaginings. If oxen had a god it would be in form of an ox - as an ancient
philosopher noted.
The harping on totalitarian Communist excesses neglects the
Enlightenment, and such democratic groups as Rationalists and Humanists -
and that Communism was implemented as any dogmatic religion is.
Of course, Eternal Life Insurance (ELI), to whom the Executive (God &
Son, Inc) and sacred Prospectus (never to be questioned) is a vested
interest, doesn't want its fraudulent claims too closely scrutinised, which
is why the dreaded Atheism is to be denigrated, blackened, and condemned.
So, folks, pay your Premiums of weekly church attendance, but if you
expect to gain Eternal Life in due course, then you have a horrid shock
awaiting you - as when you're dead, you're merely dead.
Heaven may exist, but there is no stampede to the graveyard. Suicide
bombers? If a person has nothing to lose, even life itself seems cheap, and
if he can die and take the hated enemy with him, then revenge looks good -
and lots of virgins in Paradise is a welcome delusion.
---------


British Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) finding on Atheist Beliefs

MERE OPINIONS - CAN'T BE SUBSTANTIATED!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7842769.stm

An atheist UK bus campaign which uses the slogan
"There's probably no God, So Don't Worry, Be Happy"
has been found by the Advertising Standards Authority
to be OPINIONS which cannot be objectively substantiated!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA

"the ASA ruled the adverts were an expression of the advertiser's
opinion and that the claims in it were not capable of objective
substantiation."

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
fasgnadh
2009-01-16 03:00:23 UTC
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Post by fasgnadh
When Atheist ad campaigner Ariane Sherine put her beliefs
on the side of a bus she copied Beer manufacturers who
qualify their unprovable claims to avoid litigation!!
Sherine, and the Atheists supporting her, including
Richard Dawkins, know they can't PROVE their beliefs,
and so they used the same fudge as LYING drug dealers use
to falsely misrepresent their product! 8^o
Sherine was clearly annoyed that the theist ads she
had misrepresented as likely to cause people
to throw themselves under the bus received only
one other complaint;
"When I called the Advertising Standards Authority,
the nice lady said they'd only received two
complaints about the bus ads, neither of which
had been investigated, because "The quotations
used are clearly from the Bible and there's
nothing in the advertising standards code to
prohibit advertising a religious message. The
website is not part of our remit."
was it okay for Carlsberg to say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world"?
She thought so: "We haven't upheld a complaint
against them."
After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
from litigation."
So the Atheist bus ad's equivocation is stolen
from the Booze industry's patent dishonesty, as
a means of expressing an UNPROVABLE ASSERTION
(no more than a BELIEF) from the demand for PROOF!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAA
Atheists have not changed since the days of Pravda,
the most ironically named Newspaper in history! B^p
"... it's possible that we can fund a much-needed
"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and get
on with your life."
No wonder the Atheists run and hide when challenged
to provide evidence for their BULLSHIT BELIEFS!!!
a) no one was worried in the first place
b) Sherine fabricated the alleged cause pf concern
c) Sherine hysterically fantasised absurd consequences
d) There is no logical connection between the advice
and the fabricated atheist fears.
e) The Atheists knew they have no evidence for their
beliefs, and so used advertising scams used by the
drug dealers to protect themselves from action! B^D
Dawkins and Sherine fudged their ad to protect themselves
from the DEMAND FOR EVIDENCE, a tactic taken from others who
want to avoid the TRUTH!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion
Sorry!
At last! An Atheist with the good grace to apologise for their scams!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA
Verifyable observations of God: Zero
Commonly excepted testimony about God since 600 AD: Zero
Not true. your 'evidence' is no more than ignorance;

http://www.geocities.com/townsville_taliban/endoscope.html

Judeao/Christian/Islamic civilisations are all based on
spiritual beliefs which the sources attribute to Divine
Revelation!

The only atheist social organisations ever created were
abominable and murderous tyrannies.

The Probability the theists are right is 1! B^D

The empirical historical evidence is indisputable! B^]

Atheism has never created even a single great enduring Civilisation.

Divine revelation is the foundation of every great and enduring
Civilisation on the planet.

In the 1800's when the intellectual fashion in the West
was summed up by the failed secularists, Freud, Marx and Nietzsche,
God was proclaimed Dead in the hearts of mankind. As Nietzsche
predicted, chaos followed in the 20th century Atheist shitholes,
and over 40,000,000 perished.

In Russia and China the Atheist tyrannies have been cast out,
and prosperity and advancement have resumed!

Q.E.D.
There probably is no God.
According to your 'logic', the Probability of Dark Matter
in the universe is Zero! B^D

You deal in beliefs, I deal in HISTORICAL REALITY and EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE!

The evidence all points to the improbability of atheists being
right about A SINGLE DAMNED THING!!!! B^D

You are the most MORONIC SLOW LEARNERS on the planet, dumber
than the xtian fundies, dumber than the Flat Earthers.

You simply IGNORE the evidence! pfffft!
Please do not compare this ad with any commercial one.
I didn't.. YOUR CULT LEADER DID.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAA

She openly described basing your Atheist Bus Belief on
the Carlsberg Beer tactic of avoiding the lack of evidence
for assertions:

"Carlsberg ..say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world""

About as much integrity as the ATHEIST CULT! B^D

"After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
from litigation."'

At least the Drug Dealers had ORIGINALITY!

Atheists are ineffectual and irrelevant at best,
and dangerous tyrannies whenever they gain political power!

Next time READ my post BEFORE you respond to it!

You have not refuted a SINGLE FACT in it because YOU CANT, it's TRUE!
Compare it with the assertions nof Christians,
Atheist Bus Beliefs still come out UNFAVOURABLY! Sherine LIED about
their ads!!!!

# Subject: The False Beliefs of the Atheist cult exposed!
# - Ariane Sherine's Hysterical Campaign is a fraud!
# Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:55:10 +1100
# From: fasgnadh <***@yahoo.com>
# Message-ID: <496edde1$0$32007$***@news.optusnet.com.au>
#
# Ariane Sherine's Atheist Belief Campaign exposed as a fraud!
#
# The systematic proselytising of atheist beliefs on English
# and Spanish buses has been publicly presented by Atheists,
# including Sherine herself, as a response to theist beliefs
# presented on the sides of buses which Sherine claims are so
# despairing that people might instantly throw themselves
# under the bus! 8^o
#
# Imagine you've had a really bad day, and it's only 8.30am.
# You've spilt killer orange juice all over your crucial
# work documents, you're pressed up in a tube train
# against a commuter whose armpit smells like a
# biological weapon, and you're late for work and
# your only excuse is "I glued my hand to a dog".
#
# You stumble out of the tube, and are confronted
# with the number 168 bus. It tells you that, along
# with your boss, a man with a beardy face is going
# to be upset with you, for ever, because you've
# refused to acknowledge his existence, despite
# the fact that he's too antisocial to come down
# here and say hi. You promptly throw yourself
# under the number 168 bus."
# - Ariane Sherine,
# The Guardian 20/6/2008
#
# That is the Atheist hysteric's own description of the effect
# she claimed the theist messages on London Buses could have!
# It's the absurdist rant of a blithering Lunatic!
# [In fact the "Advertising Standards Authority" had only ONE
# other complaint, and no suicides were reported! B^]
#
# The complete misrepresentation of the theist campaign becomes
# clear when you read it, and discover it is merely a QUESTION,
# inviting the readers response, and makes no mention of Hellfire
# or damnation:
#
# "Yesterday I walked to work and saw not one, but
# two London buses with the question:
# "When the son of man comes,
# will he find faith on the earth?"
# (Luke 18:8)." -ibid
#
# Hands up those of you who are terrified, in despair and suicidal
# after being asked that question.. apart from the atheists of course,
# who seem to be SHITTING THEMSELVES IN HYSTERICAL PANIC!
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA!
#
# And the ridiculous fantasy that reading such an innocuous question
# will tip people into suicidal despair, is fully backed by Richard
# Dawkins,supported and FUNDED by the Atheist cult at large!
#
# Cult is the ONLY appropriate term for simple minded idiots
# who could, uncritically, accept such arrant NONSENSE on BLIND FAITH!
#
# And so, with no one throwing themselves under buses, or evening
# being worried enough to complain, in fact no evidence anyone except
# the Hysterical, lying Atheists gave a toss at all, the cult
# produced the first of their counter-beliefs.
#
# Apparently, they followed a website link to those who
# ran the ads, read the Bible and scared themselves stupid
# by their Fundie Literalist reading, (which precisely matches
# some of the Fundie Literalist theists! B^)
#
# Other atheists, clearly accepting the Official Atheist line
# without Question, have repeated her false claim that the Bus
# messages preach Hellfire and damnation:
#
# "Remember, that message of Hell is already being advertised on
# buses... the atheist ads were inspired by the Christian
# ads. " - Message-ID:
#<debf1465-8353-4036-9f2a-***@s14g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>
#
# Naturally the Atheist campaign is inspired by the Theist texts,
# that's where all their ideas come from.. if only they didn't
# misunderstand and misrepresent them so tragically
#
#
# Atheism: The Blind leading the Blind Faithful! B^D
#
#
# http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion
who despite the absence of any verifyabel observation
History is observable.
and despite the fact that they assume God hasn't spoken for centuries,
Rubbish, the Church recognises that Muslims worship the same God.
claim - with certainty that there is one.
The historical evidence is convincing, that's why,
after the Atheist regimes of the 20th Century,
you are a tiny, insignificantly small and ineffectual
minority, reduced to stealing theist ideas for your
Bus Beliefs, and the theists number in the Billions. B^D

People are not stupid, they know what is efficacious
and unlike you atheists, they LEARN from the mistakes of history!
Now who is the liar?
Sherine, as I have proven above.
Love,
Shalom and Salaam
Peter van Velzen
January 2009
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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There is only ONE 'race', the Human Race:

"THE GENOGRAPHIC PROJECT, A LANDMARK FIVE-YEAR STUDY
CONDUCTED BY IBM AND NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC EXPLORES
THE ROOTS OF HUMANITY

In the space of just a few thousand generations,
the linguistic, cultural and genetic diversity
of the human race has exploded. Scientists agree
that all humans share a common ancestry in Africa.
Much less well understood is how the human race
migrated out of Africa and became so diverse."

www.ibm.com/dna

http://tinyurl.com/29qlqv

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invinoveritas
2009-01-16 03:57:52 UTC
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Post by fasgnadh
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One Planet - One People
"THE GENOGRAPHIC PROJECT, A LANDMARK FIVE-YEAR STUDY
CONDUCTED BY IBM AND NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC EXPLORES
THE ROOTS OF HUMANITY
In the space of just a few thousand generations,
the linguistic, cultural and genetic diversity
of the human race has exploded. Scientists agree
that all humans share a common ancestry in Africa.
Much less well understood is how the human race
migrated out of Africa and became so diverse."
Your shrink on annual leave?
fan of HCL, Jr
2009-01-18 08:38:06 UTC
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   When Atheist ad campaigner Ariane Sherine put her beliefs
   on the side of a bus she copied Beer manufacturers who
   qualify their unprovable claims to avoid litigation!!
   Sherine, and the Atheists supporting her, including
   Richard Dawkins, know they can't PROVE their beliefs,
   and so they used the same fudge as LYING drug dealers use
   to falsely misrepresent their product!   8^o
   Sherine was clearly annoyed that the theist ads she
   had misrepresented as likely to cause people
   to throw themselves under the bus received only
   one other complaint;
"When I called the Advertising Standards Authority,
the nice lady said they'd only received two
complaints about the bus ads, neither of which
had been investigated, because "The quotations
used are clearly from the Bible and there's
nothing in the advertising standards code to
prohibit advertising a religious message. The
website is not part of our remit."
was it okay for Carlsberg to say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world"?
She thought so: "We haven't upheld a complaint
against them."
After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
from litigation."
    So the Atheist bus ad's equivocation is stolen
    from the Booze industry's patent dishonesty, as
    a means of expressing an UNPROVABLE ASSERTION
    (no more than a BELIEF) from the demand for PROOF!
    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAA
    Atheists have not changed since the days of Pravda,
    the most ironically named Newspaper in history!   B^p
"... it's possible that we can fund a much-needed
"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and get
on with your life."
    No wonder the Atheists run and hide when challenged
    to provide evidence for their BULLSHIT BELIEFS!!!
    a) no one was worried in the first place
    b) Sherine fabricated the alleged cause pf concern
    c) Sherine hysterically fantasised absurd consequences
    d) There is no logical connection between the advice
       and the fabricated atheist fears.
    e) The Atheists knew they have no evidence for their
       beliefs, and so used advertising scams used by the
       drug dealers to protect themselves from action!   B^D
Dawkins and Sherine fudged their ad to protect themselves
from the DEMAND FOR EVIDENCE, a tactic taken from others who
want to avoid the TRUTH!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion
Sorry!
At last!  An Atheist with the good grace to apologise for their scams!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA
Verifyable observations of God: Zero
 >
 > Commonly excepted testimony about God since  600 AD: Zero
Not true.   your 'evidence' is no more than ignorance;
   http://www.geocities.com/townsville_taliban/endoscope.html
Judeao/Christian/Islamic civilisations are all based on
spiritual beliefs which the sources attribute to Divine
Revelation!
The only atheist social organisations ever created were
abominable and murderous tyrannies.
  The Probability the theists are right is 1!   B^D
The empirical historical evidence is indisputable!   B^]
Atheism has never created even a single great enduring Civilisation.
Divine revelation is the foundation of every great and enduring
Civilisation on the planet.
In the 1800's when the intellectual fashion in the West
was summed up by the failed secularists, Freud, Marx and Nietzsche,
God was proclaimed Dead in the hearts of mankind. As Nietzsche
predicted, chaos followed in the 20th century Atheist shitholes,
and over 40,000,000 perished.
In Russia and China the Atheist tyrannies have been cast out,
and prosperity and advancement have resumed!
Q.E.D.
There probably is no God.
According to your 'logic', the Probability of Dark Matter
in the universe is Zero!   B^D
You deal in beliefs, I deal in HISTORICAL REALITY and EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE!
The evidence all points to the improbability of atheists being
right about A SINGLE DAMNED THING!!!!    B^D
You are the most MORONIC SLOW LEARNERS on the planet, dumber
than the xtian fundies, dumber than the Flat Earthers.
You simply IGNORE the evidence!   pfffft!
Please do not compare this ad with any commercial one.
I didn't.. YOUR CULT LEADER DID.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAA
She openly described basing your Atheist Bus Belief on
the Carlsberg Beer tactic of avoiding the lack of evidence
"Carlsberg ..say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world""
     About as much integrity as the ATHEIST CULT!   B^D
"After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
  marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
from litigation."'
    At least the Drug Dealers had ORIGINALITY!
    Atheists are ineffectual and irrelevant at best,
    and dangerous tyrannies whenever they gain political power!
Next time READ my post BEFORE you respond to it!
You have not refuted a SINGLE FACT in it because YOU CANT, it's TRUE!
Compare it with the assertions nof Christians,
Atheist Bus Beliefs still come out UNFAVOURABLY!  Sherine LIED about
their ads!!!!
# Subject: The False Beliefs of the Atheist cult exposed!
#          - Ariane Sherine's Hysterical Campaign is a fraud!
# Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:55:10 +1100
#
# Ariane Sherine's Atheist Belief Campaign exposed as a fraud!
#
# The systematic proselytising of atheist beliefs on English
# and Spanish buses has been publicly presented by Atheists,
# including Sherine herself, as a response to theist beliefs
# presented on the sides of buses which Sherine claims are so
# despairing that people might instantly throw themselves
# under the bus!    8^o
#
#    Imagine you've had a really bad day, and it's only 8.30am.
#    You've spilt killer orange juice all over your crucial
#    work documents, you're pressed up in a tube train
#    against a commuter whose armpit smells like a
#    biological weapon, and you're late for work and
#    your only excuse is "I glued my hand to a dog".
#
#    You stumble out of the tube, and are confronted
#    with the number 168 bus. It tells you that, along
#    with your boss, a man with a beardy face is going
#    to be upset with you, for ever, because you've
#    refused to acknowledge his existence, despite
#    the fact that he's too antisocial to come down
#    here and say hi. You promptly throw yourself
#    under the number 168 bus."
#                   - Ariane Sherine,
#                   The Guardian 20/6/2008
#
# That is the Atheist hysteric's own description of the effect
# she claimed the theist messages on London Buses could have!
# It's the absurdist rant of a blithering Lunatic!
#    [In fact the "Advertising Standards Authority" had only ONE
#    other complaint, and no suicides were reported!  B^]
#
# The complete misrepresentation of the theist campaign becomes
# clear when you read it, and discover it is merely a QUESTION,
# inviting the readers response, and makes no mention of Hellfire
#
#     "Yesterday I walked to work and saw not one, but
#         "When the son of man comes,
#          will he find faith on the earth?"
#                     (Luke 18:8)."    -ibid
#
# Hands up those of you who are terrified, in despair and suicidal
# after being asked that question..  apart from the atheists of course,
# who seem to be SHITTING THEMSELVES IN HYSTERICAL PANIC!
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA!
#
# And the ridiculous fantasy that reading such an innocuous question
# will tip people into suicidal despair, is fully backed by Richard
# Dawkins,supported and FUNDED by the Atheist cult at large!
#
# Cult is the ONLY appropriate term for simple minded idiots
# who could, uncritically, accept such arrant NONSENSE on BLIND FAITH!
#
# And so, with no one throwing themselves under buses, or evening
# being worried enough to complain, in fact no evidence anyone except
# the Hysterical, lying Atheists gave a toss at all, the cult
# produced the first of their counter-beliefs.
#
# Apparently, they followed a website link to those who
# ran the ads, read the Bible and scared themselves stupid
# by their Fundie Literalist reading, (which precisely matches
# some of the Fundie Literalist theists!  B^)
#
# Other atheists, clearly accepting the Official Atheist line
# without Question,  have repeated her false claim that the Bus
#
#   "Remember, that message of Hell is already being advertised on
#    buses...  the atheist ads were inspired by the Christian
#
# Naturally the Atheist campaign is inspired by the Theist texts,
# that's where all their ideas come from..  if only they didn't
# misunderstand and misrepresent them so tragically
#
#
# Atheism:  The Blind leading the Blind Faithful!   B^D
#
#
#http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion
 > who despite the absence of any verifyabel observation
History is observable.
and despite the fact that they assume God hasn't spoken for centuries,
Rubbish, the Church recognises that Muslims worship the same God.
 > claim - with certainty that there is one.
The historical evidence ...
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Would you be so kind as to supply me with a single arguement of less
than 100 words provng the existance of God?.
Thre seems to be no way to disprove the existance, but I have never
seen proof that there is a od.
fasgnadh
2009-01-22 15:07:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by fan of HCL, Jr
Post by fasgnadh
Post by fasgnadh
When Atheist ad campaigner Ariane Sherine put her beliefs
on the side of a bus she copied Beer manufacturers who
qualify their unprovable claims to avoid litigation!!
Sherine, and the Atheists supporting her, including
Richard Dawkins, know they can't PROVE their beliefs,
and so they used the same fudge as LYING drug dealers use
to falsely misrepresent their product! 8^o
Sherine was clearly annoyed that the theist ads she
had misrepresented as likely to cause people
to throw themselves under the bus received only
one other complaint;
"When I called the Advertising Standards Authority,
the nice lady said they'd only received two
complaints about the bus ads, neither of which
had been investigated, because "The quotations
used are clearly from the Bible and there's
nothing in the advertising standards code to
prohibit advertising a religious message. The
website is not part of our remit."
was it okay for Carlsberg to say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world"?
She thought so: "We haven't upheld a complaint
against them."
After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
from litigation."
So the Atheist bus ad's equivocation is stolen
from the Booze industry's patent dishonesty, as
a means of expressing an UNPROVABLE ASSERTION
(no more than a BELIEF) from the demand for PROOF!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAA
Atheists have not changed since the days of Pravda,
the most ironically named Newspaper in history! B^p
"... it's possible that we can fund a much-needed
"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and get
on with your life."
No wonder the Atheists run and hide when challenged
to provide evidence for their BULLSHIT BELIEFS!!!
a) no one was worried in the first place
b) Sherine fabricated the alleged cause pf concern
c) Sherine hysterically fantasised absurd consequences
d) There is no logical connection between the advice
and the fabricated atheist fears.
e) The Atheists knew they have no evidence for their
beliefs, and so used advertising scams used by the
drug dealers to protect themselves from action! B^D
Dawkins and Sherine fudged their ad to protect themselves
from the DEMAND FOR EVIDENCE, a tactic taken from others who
want to avoid the TRUTH!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion
Sorry!
At last! An Atheist with the good grace to apologise for their scams!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA
Verifyable observations of God: Zero
Commonly excepted testimony about God since 600 AD: Zero
Not true. your 'evidence' is no more than ignorance;
http://www.geocities.com/townsville_taliban/endoscope.html
Judeao/Christian/Islamic civilisations are all based on
spiritual beliefs which the sources attribute to Divine
Revelation!
The only atheist social organisations ever created were
abominable and murderous tyrannies.
The Probability the theists are right is 1! B^D
The empirical historical evidence is indisputable! B^]
Atheism has never created even a single great enduring Civilisation.
Divine revelation is the foundation of every great and enduring
Civilisation on the planet.
In the 1800's when the intellectual fashion in the West
was summed up by the failed secularists, Freud, Marx and Nietzsche,
God was proclaimed Dead in the hearts of mankind. As Nietzsche
predicted, chaos followed in the 20th century Atheist shitholes,
and over 40,000,000 perished.
In Russia and China the Atheist tyrannies have been cast out,
and prosperity and advancement have resumed!
Q.E.D.
There probably is no God.
According to your 'logic', the Probability of Dark Matter
in the universe is Zero! B^D
You deal in beliefs, I deal in HISTORICAL REALITY and EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE!
The evidence all points to the improbability of atheists being
right about A SINGLE DAMNED THING!!!! B^D
You are the most MORONIC SLOW LEARNERS on the planet, dumber
than the xtian fundies, dumber than the Flat Earthers.
You simply IGNORE the evidence! pfffft!
Please do not compare this ad with any commercial one.
I didn't.. YOUR CULT LEADER DID.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAA
She openly described basing your Atheist Bus Belief on
the Carlsberg Beer tactic of avoiding the lack of evidence
"Carlsberg ..say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world""
About as much integrity as the ATHEIST CULT! B^D
"After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
from litigation."'
At least the Drug Dealers had ORIGINALITY!
Atheists are ineffectual and irrelevant at best,
and dangerous tyrannies whenever they gain political power!
Next time READ my post BEFORE you respond to it!
You have not refuted a SINGLE FACT in it because YOU CANT, it's TRUE!
Compare it with the assertions nof Christians,
Atheist Bus Beliefs still come out UNFAVOURABLY! Sherine LIED about
their ads!!!!
# Subject: The False Beliefs of the Atheist cult exposed!
# - Ariane Sherine's Hysterical Campaign is a fraud!
# Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:55:10 +1100
#
# Ariane Sherine's Atheist Belief Campaign exposed as a fraud!
#
# The systematic proselytising of atheist beliefs on English
# and Spanish buses has been publicly presented by Atheists,
# including Sherine herself, as a response to theist beliefs
# presented on the sides of buses which Sherine claims are so
# despairing that people might instantly throw themselves
# under the bus! 8^o
#
# Imagine you've had a really bad day, and it's only 8.30am.
# You've spilt killer orange juice all over your crucial
# work documents, you're pressed up in a tube train
# against a commuter whose armpit smells like a
# biological weapon, and you're late for work and
# your only excuse is "I glued my hand to a dog".
#
# You stumble out of the tube, and are confronted
# with the number 168 bus. It tells you that, along
# with your boss, a man with a beardy face is going
# to be upset with you, for ever, because you've
# refused to acknowledge his existence, despite
# the fact that he's too antisocial to come down
# here and say hi. You promptly throw yourself
# under the number 168 bus."
# - Ariane Sherine,
# The Guardian 20/6/2008
#
# That is the Atheist hysteric's own description of the effect
# she claimed the theist messages on London Buses could have!
# It's the absurdist rant of a blithering Lunatic!
# [In fact the "Advertising Standards Authority" had only ONE
# other complaint, and no suicides were reported! B^]
#
# The complete misrepresentation of the theist campaign becomes
# clear when you read it, and discover it is merely a QUESTION,
# inviting the readers response, and makes no mention of Hellfire
#
# "Yesterday I walked to work and saw not one, but
# "When the son of man comes,
# will he find faith on the earth?"
# (Luke 18:8)." -ibid
#
# Hands up those of you who are terrified, in despair and suicidal
# after being asked that question.. apart from the atheists of course,
# who seem to be SHITTING THEMSELVES IN HYSTERICAL PANIC!
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA!
#
# And the ridiculous fantasy that reading such an innocuous question
# will tip people into suicidal despair, is fully backed by Richard
# Dawkins,supported and FUNDED by the Atheist cult at large!
#
# Cult is the ONLY appropriate term for simple minded idiots
# who could, uncritically, accept such arrant NONSENSE on BLIND FAITH!
#
# And so, with no one throwing themselves under buses, or evening
# being worried enough to complain, in fact no evidence anyone except
# the Hysterical, lying Atheists gave a toss at all, the cult
# produced the first of their counter-beliefs.
#
# Apparently, they followed a website link to those who
# ran the ads, read the Bible and scared themselves stupid
# by their Fundie Literalist reading, (which precisely matches
# some of the Fundie Literalist theists! B^)
#
# Other atheists, clearly accepting the Official Atheist line
# without Question, have repeated her false claim that the Bus
#
# "Remember, that message of Hell is already being advertised on
# buses... the atheist ads were inspired by the Christian
#
# Naturally the Atheist campaign is inspired by the Theist texts,
# that's where all their ideas come from.. if only they didn't
# misunderstand and misrepresent them so tragically
#
#
# Atheism: The Blind leading the Blind Faithful! B^D
#
#
#http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion
who despite the absence of any verifyabel observation
History is observable.
and despite the fact that they assume God hasn't spoken for centuries,
Rubbish, the Church recognises that Muslims worship the same God.
claim - with certainty that there is one.
The historical evidence ...
Would you be so kind as to supply me with a single arguement of less
than 100 words provng the existance of God?.
You refuse to deal with ANY of the Evidence presented to you..

why would I cast more pears before ignorant swine?
Post by fan of HCL, Jr
Thre seems to be no way to disprove the existance, but I have never
seen proof that there is a od.
You never will, PROOFS exist only in mathematics.

Evidence, however is manifest in history.

I have been presenting it, Atheists have been ignoring it.


Their own beliefs are MERE OPINIONS, and CANNOT BE SUBSTANTIATED;


---------


British Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) finding on Atheist Beliefs

MERE OPINIONS - CAN'T BE SUBSTANTIATED!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7842769.stm

An atheist UK bus campaign which uses the slogan
"There's probably no God, So Don't Worry, Be Happy"
has been found by the Advertising Standards Authority
to be OPINIONS which cannot be objectively substantiated!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA

"the ASA ruled the adverts were an expression of the advertiser's
opinion and that the claims in it were not capable of objective
substantiation."

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
Bill M
2009-01-22 11:58:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by fasgnadh
Post by fan of HCL, Jr
Would you be so kind as to supply me with a single arguement of less
than 100 words provng the existance of God?.
You refuse to deal with ANY of the Evidence presented to you..
why would I cast more pears before ignorant swine?
Post by fan of HCL, Jr
Thre seems to be no way to disprove the existance, but I have never
seen proof that there is a od.
You never will, PROOFS exist only in mathematics.
Evidence, however is manifest in history.
I have been presenting it, Atheists have been ignoring it.
Their own beliefs are MERE OPINIONS, and CANNOT BE SUBSTANTIATED;
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
You have a serious mental problem. when there is NO objective verifiable
evidence that Gods exist, you clim this is evidence
for it's existence.

Basic logic is if there is NO objective verfiable evidence ofr somethings
existence it i logical to conclude it does not exist.

Obvious evidence. There are hundreds of different gods and religions. Why
would any real god not inform his creations he is the real god and all the
others are fakes!



Why would any REAL GOD permit his creations to be so misled and confused by
all these false gods? He would smite all these false Gods!



It is obvious. There are NO REAL GODS. They are all figments of man's
imagination!

No sane member of the 7 BILLION humans on this earth has ever seen or heard
any word from any God because they only exist in people's imaginations!



Religion is things hoped for but not yet seen or proven. Science is things
seen and proven but not necessarily hoped for.



There is NO objective verifiable evidence that any Gods, Heavens, Sin,
Hells, Devils or Angels exist except in the imaginations of religionists.
These beliefs are held

to help people deal with their panic fear of death and what comes after.



When there is NO objective verifiable evidence for something's existence it
is logical to assume it does no exist. The LACK of evidence is not evidence
of something's existence.



The objective evidence is that no gods created man but quite the opposite;
that man created imaginary gods! (hundreds of them!)
fasgnadh
2009-01-24 02:44:16 UTC
Permalink
Every, and I mean LITERALLY, EVERY, thread, now numbering in the
hundreds, where EVIDENCE of the failures, lies and historical TERRORS
of Atheism and violent Atheist tyrannies are presented, the atheist
tools SNIP it all, demanding that THEIR question be answered instead!

It's always the same question, (they are a unipolar cult with only ONE
idea, and that one a feeble negativity! B^) and it is always put
as an attempt to DISTRACT from the issue.

This is a profoundly dishonest trait, and betrays a severe lack of
intellectual integrity. It is usually followed by howls of bogus
complaint that THEIR question is not being answered, if the OP
decides to IGNORE their attempted distraction! 8^o Atheists
are congenital hypocrites!

There is no reason to ask why they do it. The reasons are clear.

Atheists fear the truth and run from rational argument and historical
evidence!

Atheists are narrow minded irrational bigots who oppose rational
investigation of the facts, and lack critical thought.

Atheists fear examining the historical evidence because it is compelling
proof that every great and enduring civilisation is founded and
propelled by SPIRITUAL teachings, and in ever case when asked about the
source, the answer is 'This is from God'. Alone, that is compelling
evidence, but when combined with the evidence that EVERY atheist regime
has been a bloody tyranny.. the case is overwhelming!!

Here is a textbook example, with every FACT which the Atheist's snipped
restored so their tactic can be clearly seen.

Once you recognise this pattern, Atheist Avoidance, you can see it
used in countless cases;
## UNSNIP##
Post by Bill M
Post by fasgnadh
Post by fan of HCL, Jr
Post by fasgnadh
Post by fasgnadh
When Atheist ad campaigner Ariane Sherine put her beliefs
on the side of a bus she copied Beer manufacturers who
qualify their unprovable claims to avoid litigation!!
Sherine, and the Atheists supporting her, including
Richard Dawkins, know they can't PROVE their beliefs,
and so they used the same fudge as LYING drug dealers use
to falsely misrepresent their product! 8^o
Sherine was clearly annoyed that the theist ads she
had misrepresented as likely to cause people
to throw themselves under the bus received only
one other complaint;
"When I called the Advertising Standards Authority,
the nice lady said they'd only received two
complaints about the bus ads, neither of which
had been investigated, because "The quotations
used are clearly from the Bible and there's
nothing in the advertising standards code to
prohibit advertising a religious message. The
website is not part of our remit."
was it okay for Carlsberg to say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world"?
She thought so: "We haven't upheld a complaint
against them."
After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
from litigation."
So the Atheist bus ad's equivocation is stolen
from the Booze industry's patent dishonesty, as
a means of expressing an UNPROVABLE ASSERTION
(no more than a BELIEF) from the demand for PROOF!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAA
Atheists have not changed since the days of Pravda,
the most ironically named Newspaper in history! B^p
"... it's possible that we can fund a much-needed
"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and get
on with your life."
No wonder the Atheists run and hide when challenged
to provide evidence for their BULLSHIT BELIEFS!!!
a) no one was worried in the first place
b) Sherine fabricated the alleged cause pf concern
c) Sherine hysterically fantasised absurd consequences
d) There is no logical connection between the advice
and the fabricated atheist fears.
e) The Atheists knew they have no evidence for their
beliefs, and so used advertising scams used by the
drug dealers to protect themselves from action! B^D
Dawkins and Sherine fudged their ad to protect themselves
from the DEMAND FOR EVIDENCE, a tactic taken from others who
want to avoid the TRUTH!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion
Sorry!
At last! An Atheist with the good grace to apologise for their scams!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA
Verifyable observations of God: Zero
Commonly excepted testimony about God since 600 AD: Zero
Not true. your 'evidence' is no more than ignorance;
http://www.geocities.com/townsville_taliban/endoscope.html
Judeao/Christian/Islamic civilisations are all based on
spiritual beliefs which the sources attribute to Divine
Revelation!
The only atheist social organisations ever created were
abominable and murderous tyrannies.
The Probability the theists are right is 1! B^D
The empirical historical evidence is indisputable! B^]
Atheism has never created even a single great enduring Civilisation.
Divine revelation is the foundation of every great and enduring
Civilisation on the planet.
In the 1800's when the intellectual fashion in the West
was summed up by the failed secularists, Freud, Marx and Nietzsche,
God was proclaimed Dead in the hearts of mankind. As Nietzsche
predicted, chaos followed in the 20th century Atheist shitholes,
and over 40,000,000 perished.
In Russia and China the Atheist tyrannies have been cast out,
and prosperity and advancement have resumed!
Q.E.D.
There probably is no God.
According to your 'logic', the Probability of Dark Matter
in the universe is Zero! B^D
You deal in beliefs, I deal in HISTORICAL REALITY and EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE!
The evidence all points to the improbability of atheists being
right about A SINGLE DAMNED THING!!!! B^D
You are the most MORONIC SLOW LEARNERS on the planet, dumber
than the xtian fundies, dumber than the Flat Earthers.
You simply IGNORE the evidence! pfffft!
Please do not compare this ad with any commercial one.
I didn't.. YOUR CULT LEADER DID.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAA
She openly described basing your Atheist Bus Belief on
the Carlsberg Beer tactic of avoiding the lack of evidence
"Carlsberg ..say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world""
About as much integrity as the ATHEIST CULT! B^D
"After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
from litigation."'
At least the Drug Dealers had ORIGINALITY!
Atheists are ineffectual and irrelevant at best,
and dangerous tyrannies whenever they gain political power!
Next time READ my post BEFORE you respond to it!
You have not refuted a SINGLE FACT in it because YOU CANT, it's TRUE!
Compare it with the assertions nof Christians,
Atheist Bus Beliefs still come out UNFAVOURABLY! Sherine LIED about
their ads!!!!
# Subject: The False Beliefs of the Atheist cult exposed!
# - Ariane Sherine's Hysterical Campaign is a fraud!
# Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:55:10 +1100
#
# Ariane Sherine's Atheist Belief Campaign exposed as a fraud!
#
# The systematic proselytising of atheist beliefs on English
# and Spanish buses has been publicly presented by Atheists,
# including Sherine herself, as a response to theist beliefs
# presented on the sides of buses which Sherine claims are so
# despairing that people might instantly throw themselves
# under the bus! 8^o
#
# Imagine you've had a really bad day, and it's only 8.30am.
# You've spilt killer orange juice all over your crucial
# work documents, you're pressed up in a tube train
# against a commuter whose armpit smells like a
# biological weapon, and you're late for work and
# your only excuse is "I glued my hand to a dog".
#
# You stumble out of the tube, and are confronted
# with the number 168 bus. It tells you that, along
# with your boss, a man with a beardy face is going
# to be upset with you, for ever, because you've
# refused to acknowledge his existence, despite
# the fact that he's too antisocial to come down
# here and say hi. You promptly throw yourself
# under the number 168 bus."
# - Ariane Sherine,
# The Guardian 20/6/2008
#
# That is the Atheist hysteric's own description of the effect
# she claimed the theist messages on London Buses could have!
# It's the absurdist rant of a blithering Lunatic!
# [In fact the "Advertising Standards Authority" had only ONE
# other complaint, and no suicides were reported! B^]
#
# The complete misrepresentation of the theist campaign becomes
# clear when you read it, and discover it is merely a QUESTION,
# inviting the readers response, and makes no mention of Hellfire
#
# "Yesterday I walked to work and saw not one, but
# "When the son of man comes,
# will he find faith on the earth?"
# (Luke 18:8)." -ibid
#
# Hands up those of you who are terrified, in despair and suicidal
# after being asked that question.. apart from the atheists of course,
# who seem to be SHITTING THEMSELVES IN HYSTERICAL PANIC!
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA!
#
# And the ridiculous fantasy that reading such an innocuous question
# will tip people into suicidal despair, is fully backed by Richard
# Dawkins,supported and FUNDED by the Atheist cult at large!
#
# Cult is the ONLY appropriate term for simple minded idiots
# who could, uncritically, accept such arrant NONSENSE on BLIND FAITH!
#
# And so, with no one throwing themselves under buses, or evening
# being worried enough to complain, in fact no evidence anyone except
# the Hysterical, lying Atheists gave a toss at all, the cult
# produced the first of their counter-beliefs.
#
# Apparently, they followed a website link to those who
# ran the ads, read the Bible and scared themselves stupid
# by their Fundie Literalist reading, (which precisely matches
# some of the Fundie Literalist theists! B^)
#
# Other atheists, clearly accepting the Official Atheist line
# without Question, have repeated her false claim that the Bus
#
# "Remember, that message of Hell is already being advertised on
# buses... the atheist ads were inspired by the Christian
#
# Naturally the Atheist campaign is inspired by the Theist texts,
# that's where all their ideas come from.. if only they didn't
# misunderstand and misrepresent them so tragically
#
#
# Atheism: The Blind leading the Blind Faithful! B^D
#
#
#http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion
who despite the absence of any verifyabel observation
History is observable.
and despite the fact that they assume God hasn't spoken for centuries,
Rubbish, the Church recognises that Muslims worship the same God.
claim - with certainty that there is one.
The historical evidence is convincing, that's why,
after the Atheist regimes of the 20th Century,
you are a tiny, insignificantly small and ineffectual
minority, reduced to stealing theist ideas for your
Bus Beliefs, and the theists number in the Billions. B^D
People are not stupid, they know what is efficacious
and unlike you atheists, they LEARN from the mistakes of history!
Now who is the liar?
Sherine, as I have proven above.
Love,
Shalom and Salaam
## End Unsnip ##


As you can see, NOTHING in my original post is refuted, the case
against a HISTORY of Atheist lies, slanders and brutal regimes
is UNARGUABLY strong!

Instead, we have the ATHEIST AVOIDANCE;
Post by Bill M
Post by fasgnadh
Post by fan of HCL, Jr
Would you be so kind as to supply me with a single arguement of less
than 100 words provng the existance of God?.
It seems polite, but looked at now, in context, it is simply
an attempt to GROUND SHIFT, a diversion!

Why would any rational person produce MORE evidence of the Falsity
of Atheism when intellectually dishonest atheists have merely snipped
all the evidence already presented!

My case is made and not disputed! A clear defeat for the Atheists
Post by Bill M
Post by fasgnadh
You refuse to deal with ANY of the Evidence presented to you..
why would I cast more pears before ignorant swine?
Post by fan of HCL, Jr
Thre seems to be no way to disprove the existance, but I have never
seen proof that there is a od.
You never will, PROOFS exist only in mathematics.
Evidence, however is manifest in history.
I have been presenting it, Atheists have been ignoring it.
Their own beliefs are MERE OPINIONS, and CANNOT BE SUBSTANTIATED;
So having seen these mental midgets do NOTHING but avoid the argument
they cannot beat, we get the abuse of the 'tards; BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAA
Post by Bill M
You have a serious mental problem.
Priceless! B^D
Post by Bill M
when there is NO objective verifiable evidence
that you have left unsnipped! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAA
Post by Bill M
that Gods exist, you clim this is evidence
for it's existence.
Only those who have disputed and refuted the evidence
have a right to comment on it's validity, moral defectives
who snip and ignore it merely get ridiculed! B^]
Post by Bill M
Basic logic
says that those who remove every fact, every rational argument,
replace it with an attempt to shift ground and then whine when
their pathetic tactic is EXPOSED, have conceded the argument.
Post by Bill M
is if there is NO objective verifiable evidence ofr somethings
existence it i logical to conclude it does not exist.
I accept your concession that you HAVE NO LOGICAL ARGUMENT! B^D

Everything *I* wrote is indisputably true, your abject failure
to dispute ANY of it is proof.

Consistent lies by and failure of Atheists and consistent
contributions to truth, science, great art, social progress,
compassion, kindness, and CIVILISATION by theists IS Evidence
for the existence of God.

To dispute that claim you would have to have demolished every
post I have ever made, patiently detailing the horrors of
atheist regimes (ALL of them tyrannical shitholes beyond
humanities worst nightmares) and the glories of Divinely
Inspired human Civilisation!

And as we have all seen, none of you have ever laid a blow
on that HISTORICAL EVIDENCE!

For you to ponce about, having presented not a single fact
nor rebutted not a single one of mine, let alone your
abject failure to build ANYTHING which could be called a
logical argument, to spout the terms 'logic' and 'mental
problem is simple hilarious!

B^]

I leave you here to continue your rant, for something so
devoid of facts or logic, so completely baseless OPINION,
is nothing more than your assertion of a BELIEF, one
not founded on reason or evidence, but on speculation
and fantasy;
Post by Bill M
Obvious evidence. There are hundreds of different gods and religions. Why
would any real god not inform his creations he is the real god and all the
others are fakes!
He has. And every false god has been defeated.

New ones pop up.. would you like to see the Bus ads run by a new,
pseudo-scientific CULT.. ??

No of course you wouldn't, you would snip it and run a mile! B^D
Post by Bill M
Why would any REAL GOD permit his creations to be so misled and confused by
all these false gods? He would smite all these false Gods!
I don't see any temples to Baal, do you? B^]

People stone Iblis in effigy, and struggle against the ignorance,
which it represents, in their daily lives

A few Atheist Bastets, tolerated because their mere existence is
a warning to others of what they could become!!! B^D
Post by Bill M
It is obvious.
That which is real and true, endures, because people from
the conversion of Constantine to today, recognise that which
works to create great and enduring civilisations, successful
human relations, societies based on decent values of Love,
compassion JUSTICE and mercy!

But I love the way you adamantly sloganise your unsupported BELIEFS
with the vehemence of a fundie fanatic;
Post by Bill M
There are NO REAL GODS. They are all figments of man's
imagination!
No sane member of the 7 BILLION humans on this earth has ever seen or heard
any word from any God because they only exist in people's imaginations!
mere assertions that everyone living in a society run by a rational,
sane believer, are worse off than the 40,000,000 victims of these
Atheists tyrants, so convinced that they alone have the truth, an
willing to
FORCE IT DOWN OUR NECKS by the most violent tyrannies mankind
has ever experienced!

Compare the VISION, the HOPE, and the GROUNDED REALISM of Obama,
a rational believer with the historical reality of atheism;

"State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
by a government, typically by active suppression of
religious freedom and practice."
- "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
Characteristics and Consequences,
David Kowalewski,
Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,


"An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia’s Buddhist religion:
monks were defrocked; temples and artefacts, including statues of
Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
other religious sentiments were often killed.
...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
instead of the family.
About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot’s regime."
- http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html

The Cambodian Genocide:
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"The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
regarded by the regime as social parasites,
were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
were often killed.

The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
Phnom Penh was completely razed.

The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
- http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm

"Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
because of their religion."

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“Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism.”
-Vladimir I. Lenin

“Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.”
- V.I. Lenin

"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Stalin
- E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940

But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
but of the entire State apparatus;

The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
the red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[

“We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.
WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.”
-Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper

“Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,
and God from Heaven!” (early Soviet slogan)

"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853

"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"

"Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
In 1922, the Solovki Camp of Special Purpose, the first Russian
concentration camp was established in the Solovki Islands in the White Sea"

John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
(Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
Post by Bill M
Religion is things hoped for but not yet seen or proven.
You have no idea what religion is, snip all evidence of the truth
and battle caricatures of your own making, IDOLS of your imagination!
Post by Bill M
Science is things seen and proven but not necessarily hoped for.
Atheists are not the allies of science, but as I have shown,
the historical enemies of progress.

Your refusal to face evidence, snipping instead of REFUTING what
you don't believe, shows you are not fit to be a scientists arsehole!
Post by Bill M
There is NO objective verifiable evidence that any Gods, Heavens, Sin,
Hells, Devils or Angels exist except in the imaginations of religionists.
And every page of human history, writ large in our evolution towards
maturity.
Post by Bill M
These beliefs are held
to help people deal with their panic fear of death and what comes after.
You lie like Sherine does, by ignoring what was actually on the Theist
Bus ads, and making shit up!

Who do you think you are fooling?

Answer, other atheists, who like you, accept anything the Borg tells you
to!
Post by Bill M
When there is NO objective verifiable evidence for something's existence it
is logical to assume it does no exist.
So You have no case! You not only have no evidence for a single
assertion you have made, but you snipped the evidence presented to
you which you COULD NO REFUTE.

I have shown you how it's done, but a closely argued, point by point
refutation of each bogus assertion you have made.

You will ignore my tour de force, snip all but the bits relating to
your Obsessive ATHEIST AVOIDANCE tactic, and expect me to shift ground
with you.

I will, as always insist on bringing you back to the topic, demonstrate
all the evidence you snip and avoid, add more to drive home my point,
tap dance on your pathetic sophistry, for my own amusement and that
of the reader, and mock you mercilessly.. because I have no illusions
that I can convince the illogical and irrational with reason and logic,
I just use you as a teaching tool, while speaking to the wider audience.

That's why you atheists snip newsgroup headers to remove related groups
interested in the debate, so you can hide the shame of your defeat, and
I replace them, so others can share my victories over you and the fun of
watching you run from the truth!
Post by Bill M
The LACK of evidence is not evidence of something's existence.
So your argument is non-existent!

Q.E.D.
Post by Bill M
The objective evidence is that no gods created man but quite the opposite;
that man created imaginary gods! (hundreds of them!)
Judeao Christian Islamic civilisation is the dominant intellectual,
scientific, cultural and spiritual force on the planet, and it has
direct, pre-existing and growing links to other great and enduring
civilisations based on Spiritual Teachings.. all sourced from the One
God, as the World religions, as they increasingly enter into
dialogue, agree;


# "DECLARATION ON THE RELATION OF THE CHURCH
# TO NON-CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS
#
# NOSTRA AETATE
#
# PROCLAIMED BY HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI
# ...
# 3. The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems.
# They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself;
# merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth,(5)
# who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to
# even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith
# of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God."

Of course the Christian Bible has proclaimed the Unity of God for
millennia, long before there were Christians to argue over it;

"Hear oh Israel, they Lord thy God, the Lord is One!"

And Islam similarly proclaims it in the Muslim's daily
statement of faith in ONE GOD...

"La illaha illa allah"

... based firmly on the Qu'ran;

# "And argue not with the People of the Scripture
# unless it be in ( a way) that is better,
# save with such of them as do wrong;
# and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us
# and revealed unto you;
# our God and your God is One,
# and unto Him we surrender."
#
# - The Qu'ran Sura 29 verse 46


One God, many paths! B^]


---------

One Planet - One People

There is only ONE 'race', the Human Race:

"THE GENOGRAPHIC PROJECT, A LANDMARK FIVE-YEAR STUDY
CONDUCTED BY IBM AND NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC EXPLORES
THE ROOTS OF HUMANITY

In the space of just a few thousand generations,
the linguistic, cultural and genetic diversity
of the human race has exploded. Scientists agree
that all humans share a common ancestry in Africa.
Much less well understood is how the human race
migrated out of Africa and became so diverse."

www.ibm.com/dna

http://tinyurl.com/29qlqv

---------

One World

http://youtu.be/vGz7qPJRhbo

-----------
Bill M
2009-01-23 17:36:39 UTC
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Post by fasgnadh
Evidence, however is manifest in history.
I have been presenting it, Atheists have been ignoring it.
Their own beliefs are MERE OPINIONS, and CANNOT BE SUBSTANTIATED;
---------
British Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) finding on Atheist Beliefs
MERE OPINIONS - CAN'T BE SUBSTANTIATED!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7842769.stm
An atheist UK bus campaign which uses the slogan
"There's probably no God, So Don't Worry, Be Happy"
has been found by the Advertising Standards Authority
to be OPINIONS which cannot be objectively substantiated!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA
"the ASA ruled the adverts were an expression of the advertiser's
opinion and that the claims in it were not capable of objective
substantiation."
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
Get an education and quit being an idiot.. Atheist do not believe in Gods
because there is NO objective verifiable evidence that
ANY gods actually exist!

The God myths and fables.

There are hundreds of dramatically different God beliefs but no God
announces or demonstrates that it is the real God and the many others are
fakes.

No God ever speaks to, communicates with or appears to any of the seven
BILLION sane members of society.

There is no objective verifiable evidence that any dead relative or friend
has ever directly communicated with the living. That is because they no
longer

EXIST!

None of the hundreds of thousands of religious leaders has ever been able to
demonstrate that his God actually exists. Nor have any of them ever been
able to confirm that their Heaven, Hell, God, Devil or Angels actually
exist. Nor have any of them ever proven they have communicated with their
claimed God.

Would any real loving and caring intelligent God, create Plagues, Tsunamis,
Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Floods, Wars, Earth Quakes, Cancers and
hundreds of debilitating diseases and serious body malfunctions? There are
12,000 known diseases that affect and punish mankind indiscriminately. Why
does he permit millions of both young and old to starve to death or die of
miserable diseases? Why punish millions of INNOCENT CHILDREN in this
horrible way?

Why would any all powerful and caring god permit totally "innocent children"
to die at birth? Or worse, be born lacking eyesight, a fully developed
brain, deaf and dumb, missing limbs etc.? Why are some born idiots and
others with super intelligence? Why are some born into wealth and others
pauper poor? Why would it permit over 2,000,000 innocent children to die of
starvation every year? Why are his human creations designed to deteriorate
into a miserable and devastating old age regardless of their religious
beliefs?

People feel compelled to believe in Gods, Heavens, Hells, Angels and after
life because they cannot mentally accept the finality of death and the loss
of their
existence.

Their is no objective verifiable evidence that any Gods are more real than
Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy, All Gods are based on nothing more than
hopes, myths and fables.
Jeffrey Laventure
2009-01-24 00:16:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill M
Post by fasgnadh
Evidence, however is manifest in history.
I have been presenting it, Atheists have been ignoring it.
Their own beliefs are MERE OPINIONS, and CANNOT BE SUBSTANTIATED;
---------
British Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) finding on Atheist Beliefs
MERE OPINIONS - CAN'T BE SUBSTANTIATED!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7842769.stm
An atheist UK bus campaign which uses the slogan
"There's probably no God, So Don't Worry, Be Happy"
has been found by the Advertising Standards Authority
to be OPINIONS which cannot be objectively substantiated!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA
"the ASA ruled the adverts were an expression of the advertiser's
opinion and that the claims in it were not capable of objective
substantiation."
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
Get an education and quit being an idiot.. Atheist do not believe in Gods
because there is NO objective verifiable evidence that
ANY gods actually exist!
And neither can anyone prove the impossibility of a God. In fact, quantum
physics and string theory leans toward the existence of something beyond our
ordinary senses and perception of reality.
Post by Bill M
The God myths and fables.
There are hundreds of dramatically different God beliefs but no God
announces or demonstrates that it is the real God and the many others are
fakes.
Multiple beliefs only validate the belief. The belief that something bigger
and beyond our comprehension is somewhere.
Post by Bill M
No God ever speaks to, communicates with or appears to any of the seven
BILLION sane members of society.
Most of those seven billion will disagree with your minority opinion.
Post by Bill M
There is no objective verifiable evidence that any dead relative or friend
has ever directly communicated with the living. That is because they no
longer
EXIST!
Nor that they don't exist.
Post by Bill M
None of the hundreds of thousands of religious leaders has ever been able to
demonstrate that his God actually exists. Nor have any of them ever been
able to confirm that their Heaven, Hell, God, Devil or Angels actually
exist. Nor have any of them ever proven they have communicated with their
claimed God.
And no atheist has been able to provide substance for deniabilty.
Post by Bill M
Would any real loving and caring intelligent God, create Plagues, Tsunamis,
Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Floods, Wars, Earth Quakes, Cancers and
hundreds of debilitating diseases and serious body malfunctions? There are
12,000 known diseases that affect and punish mankind indiscriminately. Why
does he permit millions of both young and old to starve to death or die of
miserable diseases? Why punish millions of INNOCENT CHILDREN in this
horrible way?
Why would God make it so easy? Wouldn't that stunt creative ability, mental
growth and discovering the universe? No disasters, no disease, no birht
defects sounds like you believe God should have given us a Garden of Eden.
Oh wait!!! God already did that and now we have exactly what you are blaming
on God.
Post by Bill M
Why would any all powerful and caring god permit totally "innocent children"
to die at birth? Or worse, be born lacking eyesight, a fully developed
brain, deaf and dumb, missing limbs etc.? Why are some born idiots and
others with super intelligence? Why are some born into wealth and others
pauper poor? Why would it permit over 2,000,000 innocent children to die of
starvation every year? Why are his human creations designed to deteriorate
into a miserable and devastating old age regardless of their religious
beliefs?
God doesn't cause starvation, men fail to respond to those starving and men
create lousy governments. Birth and death is a natural cycle in which you
have the opportunity to expand beyond and understand there is more to
existence than you, sex, drugs and alcohol.
Post by Bill M
People feel compelled to believe in Gods, Heavens, Hells, Angels and after
life because they cannot mentally accept the finality of death and the loss
of their
existence.
Or they have such a high opinion of their personal self they cannot accept
there is a morality higher than themselves.
Post by Bill M
Their is no objective verifiable evidence that any Gods are more real than
Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy, All Gods are based on nothing more than
hopes, myths and fables.
I truly feel sorry for those who so involved with themselves they refuse to
comprehend there is more than what they can see.
Christopher A. Lee
2009-01-24 02:52:55 UTC
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:16:03 -0800, Jeffrey Laventure
Post by Jeffrey Laventure
Post by Bill M
Post by fasgnadh
Evidence, however is manifest in history.
I have been presenting it, Atheists have been ignoring it.
Their own beliefs are MERE OPINIONS, and CANNOT BE SUBSTANTIATED;
---------
British Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) finding on Atheist Beliefs
MERE OPINIONS - CAN'T BE SUBSTANTIATED!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7842769.stm
An atheist UK bus campaign which uses the slogan
"There's probably no God, So Don't Worry, Be Happy"
has been found by the Advertising Standards Authority
to be OPINIONS which cannot be objectively substantiated!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA
"the ASA ruled the adverts were an expression of the advertiser's
opinion and that the claims in it were not capable of objective
substantiation."
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
Get an education and quit being an idiot.. Atheist do not believe in Gods
because there is NO objective verifiable evidence that
ANY gods actually exist!
And neither can anyone prove the impossibility of a God. In fact, quantum
physics and string theory leans toward the existence of something beyond our
ordinary senses and perception of reality.
No.
--
Agent 5 users can filter 90% of Usenet spam using
message-id: {google}
Hope for the Heartless
2009-01-24 06:50:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jeffrey Laventure
Post by Bill M
Get an education and quit being an idiot.. Atheist do not believe in Gods
because there is NO objective verifiable evidence that
ANY gods actually exist!
And neither can anyone prove the impossibility of a God. In fact, quantum
physics and string theory leans toward the existence of something beyond our
ordinary senses and perception of reality.
But they don't suggest that there are any gods. They'd be laughed at,
and rightly so.
Post by Jeffrey Laventure
Post by Bill M
There are hundreds of dramatically different God beliefs but no God
announces or demonstrates that it is the real God and the many others are
fakes.
Multiple beliefs only validate the belief.
It is an absurd lie to say that the contradictory beliefs support each
other. But we're used to hearing absurd lies from the proponents of
religion.
Post by Jeffrey Laventure
The belief that something bigger
and beyond our comprehension is somewhere.
If you reduce the idea of belief to utter vagueness, you might even get
atheists to agree, right? Yes, there could be bigger things beyond our
comprehension. So what? There's no evidence that any such bigger
things that MIGHT exist are gods.
Post by Jeffrey Laventure
Post by Bill M
There is no objective verifiable evidence that any dead relative or friend
has ever directly communicated with the living. That is because they no
longer
EXIST!
Nor that they don't exist.
If they exist, show us. I'm asking no more of you than I am willing to
demonstrate for myself. Do you see any spirits of dead relatives
hanging around? Right over there, there isn't one. Or anywhere else
either. See? See?
Post by Jeffrey Laventure
Post by Bill M
None of the hundreds of thousands of religious leaders has ever been able to
demonstrate that his God actually exists. Nor have any of them ever been
able to confirm that their Heaven, Hell, God, Devil or Angels actually
exist. Nor have any of them ever proven they have communicated with their
claimed God.
And no atheist has been able to provide substance for deniabilty.
Lack of reason to believe is sufficient for not believing. I have no
reason to believe my grandfather had an affair with Mae West, for
instance. So I do not presume it to be true. In fact, I presume he
didn't. But that hypothetical affair is far more likely than anything
that has ever been claimed about the existence or actions of any god.

So I am far more correct to assume that there are no such gods than I am
in assuming that my grandfather didn't shtoop Mae West.
Post by Jeffrey Laventure
Post by Bill M
Would any real loving and caring intelligent God, create Plagues, Tsunamis,
Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Floods, Wars, Earth Quakes, Cancers and
hundreds of debilitating diseases and serious body malfunctions? There are
12,000 known diseases that affect and punish mankind indiscriminately. Why
does he permit millions of both young and old to starve to death or die of
miserable diseases? Why punish millions of INNOCENT CHILDREN in this
horrible way?
Why would God make it so easy? Wouldn't that stunt creative ability, mental
growth and discovering the universe?
Do you knowingly and intentionally or even negligently expose your loved
ones to plagues, tsunamis, tornadoes, volcanic eruptions, floods, wars,
earthquakes and hundreds of disease? No? Why not? It would be good
for them, spur mental growth and help them discover the universe, right?
Robibnikoff
2009-01-24 10:32:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jeffrey Laventure
Post by Bill M
Post by fasgnadh
Evidence, however is manifest in history.
I have been presenting it, Atheists have been ignoring it.
Their own beliefs are MERE OPINIONS, and CANNOT BE SUBSTANTIATED;
---------
British Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) finding on Atheist Beliefs
MERE OPINIONS - CAN'T BE SUBSTANTIATED!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7842769.stm
An atheist UK bus campaign which uses the slogan
"There's probably no God, So Don't Worry, Be Happy"
has been found by the Advertising Standards Authority
to be OPINIONS which cannot be objectively substantiated!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA
"the ASA ruled the adverts were an expression of the advertiser's
opinion and that the claims in it were not capable of objective
substantiation."
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
Get an education and quit being an idiot.. Atheist do not believe in Gods
because there is NO objective verifiable evidence that
ANY gods actually exist!
And neither can anyone prove the impossibility of a God. In fact, quantum
physics and string theory leans toward the existence of something beyond our
ordinary senses and perception of reality.
Post by Bill M
The God myths and fables.
There are hundreds of dramatically different God beliefs but no God
announces or demonstrates that it is the real God and the many others are
fakes.
Multiple beliefs only validate the belief. The belief that something bigger
and beyond our comprehension is somewhere.
Post by Bill M
No God ever speaks to, communicates with or appears to any of the seven
BILLION sane members of society.
Most of those seven billion will disagree with your minority opinion.
So what? That doesn't prove a god exists.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight
#1557
fan of HCL, Jr
2009-01-24 23:04:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill M
Post by fasgnadh
Evidence, however is manifest in history.
I have been presenting it, Atheists have been ignoring it.
Their own beliefs are MERE OPINIONS, and CANNOT BE SUBSTANTIATED;
---------
British Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) finding on Atheist Beliefs
MERE OPINIONS - CAN'T BE SUBSTANTIATED!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7842769.stm
An atheist UK bus campaign which uses the slogan
"There's probably no God, So Don't Worry, Be Happy"
has been found by the Advertising Standards Authority
to be OPINIONS which cannot be objectively substantiated!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA
"the ASA ruled the adverts were an expression of the advertiser's
opinion and that the claims in it were not capable of objective
substantiation."
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
Get an education and quit being an idiot.. Atheist do not believe in Gods
because there is NO objective verifiable evidence that
ANY gods actually exist!
And neither can anyone prove the impossibility of a God.  In fact, quantum
physics and string theory leans toward the existence of something beyond our
ordinary senses and perception of reality.
Post by Bill M
The God myths and fables.
There are hundreds of dramatically different God beliefs but no God
announces or demonstrates that it is the real God and the many others are
fakes.
Multiple beliefs only validate the belief.  The belief that something
bigger
and beyond our comprehension is somewhere.
Post by Bill M
No God ever speaks to, communicates with or appears to any of the seven
BILLION sane members of society.
Most of those seven billion will disagree with your minority opinion.
So what?  That doesn't prove a god exists.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight
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This whole series of messages seems to come down to one group saying
that god(s) exist and
another group saying that they do.

Some poor lost soul (no pun intended) who has never seen the sea nor
heard of its existance cannot prove that a sea doesn't exist, but
someone who can take him/her to the sea can prove that it exists. The
believer here should take the doubter to see God to settle the debate.
fasgnadh
2009-01-24 08:32:10 UTC
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Post by Bill M
Post by fasgnadh
Post by fan of HCL, Jr
Post by fasgnadh
Post by fasgnadh
When Atheist ad campaigner Ariane Sherine put her beliefs
on the side of a bus she copied Beer manufacturers who
qualify their unprovable claims to avoid litigation!!
Sherine, and the Atheists supporting her, including
Richard Dawkins, know they can't PROVE their beliefs,
and so they used the same fudge as LYING drug dealers use
to falsely misrepresent their product! 8^o
Sherine was clearly annoyed that the theist ads she
had misrepresented as likely to cause people
to throw themselves under the bus received only
one other complaint;
"When I called the Advertising Standards Authority,
the nice lady said they'd only received two
complaints about the bus ads, neither of which
had been investigated, because "The quotations
used are clearly from the Bible and there's
nothing in the advertising standards code to
prohibit advertising a religious message. The
website is not part of our remit."
was it okay for Carlsberg to say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world"?
She thought so: "We haven't upheld a complaint
against them."
After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
from litigation."
So the Atheist bus ad's equivocation is stolen
from the Booze industry's patent dishonesty, as
a means of expressing an UNPROVABLE ASSERTION
(no more than a BELIEF) from the demand for PROOF!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAA
Atheists have not changed since the days of Pravda,
the most ironically named Newspaper in history! B^p
Post by Bill M
Post by fasgnadh
Post by fan of HCL, Jr
Post by fasgnadh
Post by fasgnadh
"... it's possible that we can fund a much-needed
"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and get
on with your life."
No wonder the Atheists run and hide when challenged
to provide evidence for their BULLSHIT BELIEFS!!!
a) no one was worried in the first place
b) Sherine fabricated the alleged cause pf concern
c) Sherine hysterically fantasised absurd consequences
d) There is no logical connection between the advice
and the fabricated atheist fears.
e) The Atheists knew they have no evidence for their
beliefs, and so used advertising scams used by the
drug dealers to protect themselves from action! B^D
Post by Bill M
Post by fasgnadh
Post by fan of HCL, Jr
Post by fasgnadh
Post by fasgnadh
Dawkins and Sherine fudged their ad to protect themselves
from the DEMAND FOR EVIDENCE, a tactic taken from others who
want to avoid the TRUTH!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion
Sorry!
At last! An Atheist with the good grace to apologise for their scams!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA
Verifyable observations of God: Zero
Commonly excepted testimony about God since 600 AD: Zero
Not true. your 'evidence' is no more than ignorance;
http://www.bahai.org/

Atheists should know about them, they were
persecuted by atheists for decades, but now the
Godless Atheist regimes have crumbled and the
Bahai are a world religion:





"O HEEDLESS ONES!
Think not the secrets of hearts are hidden,
nay, know ye of a certainty that
in clear characters they are engraved
and are openly manifest in the holy Presence."

- Baha'u'llah, The Persian Hidden Words
Post by Bill M
Post by fasgnadh
Post by fan of HCL, Jr
Post by fasgnadh
http://www.geocities.com/townsville_taliban/endoscope.html
Judeao/Christian/Islamic civilisations are all based on
spiritual beliefs which the sources attribute to Divine
Revelation!
The only atheist social organisations ever created were
abominable and murderous tyrannies.
The Probability the theists are right is 1! B^D
The empirical historical evidence is indisputable! B^]
Atheism has never created even a single great enduring Civilisation.
Divine revelation is the foundation of every great and enduring
Civilisation on the planet.
In the 1800's when the intellectual fashion in the West
was summed up by the failed secularists, Freud, Marx and Nietzsche,
God was proclaimed Dead in the hearts of mankind. As Nietzsche
predicted, chaos followed in the 20th century Atheist shitholes,
and over 40,000,000 perished.
In Russia and China the Atheist tyrannies have been cast out,
and prosperity and advancement have resumed!
Q.E.D.
There probably is no God.
According to your 'logic', the Probability of Dark Matter
in the universe is Zero! B^D
You deal in beliefs, I deal in HISTORICAL REALITY and EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE!
The evidence all points to the improbability of atheists being
right about A SINGLE DAMNED THING!!!! B^D
You are the most MORONIC SLOW LEARNERS on the planet, dumber
than the xtian fundies, dumber than the Flat Earthers.
You simply IGNORE the evidence! pfffft!
Please do not compare this ad with any commercial one.
I didn't.. YOUR CULT LEADER DID.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAA
The 'defence' by atheists, against the charges, is ludicrous! B^)
And as every argument by them has been rebutted by the TRUTH,
they have withered away and now try merely to change the subject!!
Post by Bill M
Post by fasgnadh
Post by fan of HCL, Jr
Post by fasgnadh
She openly described basing your Atheist Bus Belief on
the Carlsberg Beer tactic of avoiding the lack of evidence
"Carlsberg ..say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world""
About as much integrity as the ATHEIST CULT! B^D
"After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
from litigation."'
At least the Drug Dealers had ORIGINALITY!
Atheists are ineffectual and irrelevant at best,
and dangerous tyrannies whenever they gain political power!
Next time READ my post BEFORE you respond to it!
You have not refuted a SINGLE FACT in it because YOU CANT, it's TRUE!
The atheists have abandoned defence of the fraud perpetrated
by Sherine, who raised MONEY from gullible atheists based on
a massive misrepresentation of the theist ads which she claimed
necessitated her own campaign;
See "The False Beliefs of the Atheist cult exposed!
- Ariane Sherine's Hysterical Campaign is a fraud!" below
Post by Bill M
Post by fasgnadh
Post by fan of HCL, Jr
Post by fasgnadh
Compare it with the assertions nof Christians,
Atheist Bus Beliefs still come out UNFAVOURABLY! Sherine LIED about
their ads!!!!
# Subject: The False Beliefs of the Atheist cult exposed!
# - Ariane Sherine's Hysterical Campaign is a fraud!
# Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:55:10 +1100
#
# Ariane Sherine's Atheist Belief Campaign exposed as a fraud!
#
# The systematic proselytising of atheist beliefs on English
# and Spanish buses has been publicly presented by Atheists,
# including Sherine herself, as a response to theist beliefs
# presented on the sides of buses which Sherine claims are so
# despairing that people might instantly throw themselves
# under the bus! 8^o
#
# Imagine you've had a really bad day, and it's only 8.30am.
# You've spilt killer orange juice all over your crucial
# work documents, you're pressed up in a tube train
# against a commuter whose armpit smells like a
# biological weapon, and you're late for work and
# your only excuse is "I glued my hand to a dog".
#
# You stumble out of the tube, and are confronted
# with the number 168 bus. It tells you that, along
# with your boss, a man with a beardy face is going
# to be upset with you, for ever, because you've
# refused to acknowledge his existence, despite
# the fact that he's too antisocial to come down
# here and say hi. You promptly throw yourself
# under the number 168 bus."
# - Ariane Sherine,
# The Guardian 20/6/2008
#
# That is the Atheist hysteric's own description of the effect
# she claimed the theist messages on London Buses could have!
# It's the absurdist rant of a blithering Lunatic!
# [In fact the "Advertising Standards Authority" had only ONE
# other complaint, and no suicides were reported! B^]
#
# The complete misrepresentation of the theist campaign becomes
# clear when you read it, and discover it is merely a QUESTION,
# inviting the readers response, and makes no mention of Hellfire
#
# "Yesterday I walked to work and saw not one, but
# "When the son of man comes,
# will he find faith on the earth?"
# (Luke 18:8)." -ibid
#
# Hands up those of you who are terrified, in despair and suicidal
# after being asked that question.. apart from the atheists of course,
# who seem to be SHITTING THEMSELVES IN HYSTERICAL PANIC!
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA!
#
# And the ridiculous fantasy that reading such an innocuous question
# will tip people into suicidal despair, is fully backed by Richard
# Dawkins,supported and FUNDED by the Atheist cult at large!
#
# Cult is the ONLY appropriate term for simple minded idiots
# who could, uncritically, accept such arrant NONSENSE on BLIND FAITH!
#
# And so, with no one throwing themselves under buses, or evening
# being worried enough to complain, in fact no evidence anyone except
# the Hysterical, lying Atheists gave a toss at all, the cult
# produced the first of their counter-beliefs.
#
# Apparently, they followed a website link to those who
# ran the ads, read the Bible and scared themselves stupid
# by their Fundie Literalist reading, (which precisely matches
# some of the Fundie Literalist theists! B^)
#
# Other atheists, clearly accepting the Official Atheist line
# without Question, have repeated her false claim that the Bus
#
# "Remember, that message of Hell is already being advertised on
# buses... the atheist ads were inspired by the Christian
#
# Naturally the Atheist campaign is inspired by the Theist texts,
# that's where all their ideas come from.. if only they didn't
# misunderstand and misrepresent them so tragically
#
#
# Atheism: The Blind leading the Blind Faithful! B^D
#
#
#http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion
who despite the absence of any verifyabel observation
History is observable.
and despite the fact that they assume God hasn't spoken for centuries,
Rubbish, the Church recognises that Muslims worship the same God.
claim - with certainty that there is one.
The historical evidence is convincing, that's why,
after the Atheist regimes of the 20th Century,
you are a tiny, insignificantly small and ineffectual
minority, reduced to stealing theist ideas for your
Bus Beliefs, and the theists number in the Billions. B^D
People are not stupid, they know what is efficacious
and unlike you atheists, they LEARN from the mistakes of history!
Now who is the liar?
Sherine, as I have proven above.
Love,
Shalom and Salaam
Would you be so kind as to supply me with a single arguement of less
than 100 words provng the existance of God?.
You refuse to deal with ANY of the Evidence presented to you..
why would I cast more pears before ignorant swine?
Post by fan of HCL, Jr
Thre seems to be no way to disprove the existance, but I have never
seen proof that there is a od.
You never will, PROOFS exist only in mathematics.
Evidence, however is manifest in history.
I have been presenting it, Atheists have been ignoring it.
Their own beliefs are MERE OPINIONS, and CANNOT BE SUBSTANTIATED;
---------
British Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) finding on Atheist Beliefs
MERE OPINIONS - CAN'T BE SUBSTANTIATED!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7842769.stm
An atheist UK bus campaign which uses the slogan
"There's probably no God, So Don't Worry, Be Happy"
has been found by the Advertising Standards Authority
to be OPINIONS which cannot be objectively substantiated!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA
"the ASA ruled the adverts were an expression of the advertiser's
opinion and that the claims in it were not capable of objective
substantiation."
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
Get an education and quit being an idiot..
That's the ASA, not me, sinking the atheist bullshit that
you have no Beliefs!!! B^D

You just have NO EVIDENCE for those beliefs! B^D
Post by Bill M
Atheist do not believe in
Irrelevant.

I'm not interested in YOUR version of the DETAILS of what you DON'T
BLEIVE in, I am discussing the BELIEFS that ATHEISTS DO HAVE! B^)

My my point is simply that you have beleifs, that your cult leader
has been caught out LYING about her campaign to advertise them
on buses and that the British Advertising Standards Authority,
an independent, SECULAR, (non-Theist B^) organisation has said
you have no objective substantiation of those beliefs!

Q.E.D.!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAA
Post by Bill M
Would any real loving and caring intelligent God,
Not interested in your IDLE SPECULATION, just in FACTS!
"Would any sane rational being let a cultist SNIP FACTS
and demand we all engage their theoretical speculations??
...
Post by Bill M
Why would any all powerful and caring god permit
"Why would any sane rational being let a cultist SNIP FACTS
and demand we all engage their theoretical speculations??
...
Post by Bill M
People feel compelled
"Would any sane rational being let a cultist SNIP FACTS
and speculate about the FEELINGS of everyone else on the planet??

These Atheists constantly present their UNSUBSTANTIATED
theological rants.. and try and avoid the FACTS!!
Post by Bill M
Their is no objective verifiable evidence
...
For any of the Atheist beliefs... which are no
Post by Bill M
more real than Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy,
The British Advertising Standards Authority says
that NO OBJECTIVE evidence exists for the mere OPINIONS
of atheists....
Post by Bill M
based on nothing more than hopes, myths and fables.
Don't take my word for it, here's the findings of an
independent, secular, British Government Authority:

---------


British Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) finding on Atheist Beliefs

MERE OPINIONS - CAN'T BE SUBSTANTIATED!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7842769.stm

An atheist UK bus campaign which uses the slogan
"There's probably no God, So Don't Worry, Be Happy"
has been found by the Advertising Standards Authority
to be OPINIONS which cannot be objectively substantiated!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA

"the ASA ruled the adverts were an expression of the advertiser's
opinion and that the claims in it were not capable of objective
substantiation."

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
fasgnadh
2009-01-22 16:15:10 UTC
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Post by fasgnadh
When Atheist ad campaigner Ariane Sherine put her beliefs
on the side of a bus she copied Beer manufacturers who
qualify their unprovable claims to avoid litigation!!
Sherine, and the Atheists supporting her, including
Richard Dawkins, know they can't PROVE their beliefs,
and so they used the same fudge as LYING drug dealers use
to falsely misrepresent their product! 8^o
Sherine was clearly annoyed that the theist ads she
had misrepresented as likely to cause people
to throw themselves under the bus received only
one other complaint;
"When I called the Advertising Standards Authority,
the nice lady said they'd only received two
complaints about the bus ads, neither of which
had been investigated, because "The quotations
used are clearly from the Bible and there's
nothing in the advertising standards code to
prohibit advertising a religious message. The
website is not part of our remit."
was it okay for Carlsberg to say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world"?
She thought so: "We haven't upheld a complaint
against them."
After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
from litigation."
So the Atheist bus ad's equivocation is stolen
from the Booze industry's patent dishonesty, as
a means of expressing an UNPROVABLE ASSERTION
(no more than a BELIEF) from the demand for PROOF!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAA
Atheists have not changed since the days of Pravda,
the most ironically named Newspaper in history! B^p
"... it's possible that we can fund a much-needed
"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and get
on with your life."
No wonder the Atheists run and hide when challenged
to provide evidence for their BULLSHIT BELIEFS!!!
a) no one was worried in the first place
b) Sherine fabricated the alleged cause pf concern
c) Sherine hysterically fantasised absurd consequences
d) There is no logical connection between the advice
and the fabricated atheist fears.
e) The Atheists knew they have no evidence for their
beliefs, and so used advertising scams used by the
drug dealers to protect themselves from action! B^D
Dawkins and Sherine fudged their ad to protect themselves
from the DEMAND FOR EVIDENCE, a tactic taken from others who
want to avoid the TRUTH!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion
Sorry!
At last! An Atheist with the good grace to apologise for their scams!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA
Verifyable observations of God: Zero
Commonly excepted testimony about God since 600 AD: Zero
Not true. your 'evidence' is no more than ignorance;
http://www.geocities.com/townsville_taliban/endoscope.html
Judeao/Christian/Islamic civilisations are all based on
spiritual beliefs which the sources attribute to Divine
Revelation!
The only atheist social organisations ever created were
abominable and murderous tyrannies.
The Probability the theists are right is 1! B^D
The empirical historical evidence is indisputable! B^]
Atheism has never created even a single great enduring Civilisation.
Divine revelation is the foundation of every great and enduring
Civilisation on the planet.
In the 1800's when the intellectual fashion in the West
was summed up by the failed secularists, Freud, Marx and Nietzsche,
God was proclaimed Dead in the hearts of mankind. As Nietzsche
predicted, chaos followed in the 20th century Atheist shitholes,
and over 40,000,000 perished.
In Russia and China the Atheist tyrannies have been cast out,
and prosperity and advancement have resumed!
Q.E.D.
There probably is no God.
According to your 'logic', the Probability of Dark Matter
in the universe is Zero! B^D
You deal in beliefs, I deal in HISTORICAL REALITY and EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE!
The evidence all points to the improbability of atheists being
right about A SINGLE DAMNED THING!!!! B^D
You are the most MORONIC SLOW LEARNERS on the planet, dumber
than the xtian fundies, dumber than the Flat Earthers.
You simply IGNORE the evidence! pfffft!
Please do not compare this ad with any commercial one.
I didn't.. YOUR CULT LEADER DID.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAA
She openly described basing your Atheist Bus Belief on
the Carlsberg Beer tactic of avoiding the lack of evidence
"Carlsberg ..say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world""
About as much integrity as the ATHEIST CULT! B^D
"After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
from litigation."'
At least the Drug Dealers had ORIGINALITY!
Atheists are ineffectual and irrelevant at best,
and dangerous tyrannies whenever they gain political power!
Next time READ my post BEFORE you respond to it!
You have not refuted a SINGLE FACT in it because YOU CANT, it's TRUE!
Compare it with the assertions nof Christians,
Atheist Bus Beliefs still come out UNFAVOURABLY! Sherine LIED about
their ads!!!!
# Subject: The False Beliefs of the Atheist cult exposed!
# - Ariane Sherine's Hysterical Campaign is a fraud!
# Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:55:10 +1100
#
# Ariane Sherine's Atheist Belief Campaign exposed as a fraud!
#
# The systematic proselytising of atheist beliefs on English
# and Spanish buses has been publicly presented by Atheists,
# including Sherine herself, as a response to theist beliefs
# presented on the sides of buses which Sherine claims are so
# despairing that people might instantly throw themselves
# under the bus! 8^o
#
# Imagine you've had a really bad day, and it's only 8.30am.
# You've spilt killer orange juice all over your crucial
# work documents, you're pressed up in a tube train
# against a commuter whose armpit smells like a
# biological weapon, and you're late for work and
# your only excuse is "I glued my hand to a dog".
#
# You stumble out of the tube, and are confronted
# with the number 168 bus. It tells you that, along
# with your boss, a man with a beardy face is going
# to be upset with you, for ever, because you've
# refused to acknowledge his existence, despite
# the fact that he's too antisocial to come down
# here and say hi. You promptly throw yourself
# under the number 168 bus."
# - Ariane Sherine,
# The Guardian 20/6/2008
#
# That is the Atheist hysteric's own description of the effect
# she claimed the theist messages on London Buses could have!
# It's the absurdist rant of a blithering Lunatic!
# [In fact the "Advertising Standards Authority" had only ONE
# other complaint, and no suicides were reported! B^]
#
# The complete misrepresentation of the theist campaign becomes
# clear when you read it, and discover it is merely a QUESTION,
# inviting the readers response, and makes no mention of Hellfire
#
# "Yesterday I walked to work and saw not one, but
# "When the son of man comes,
# will he find faith on the earth?"
# (Luke 18:8)." -ibid
#
# Hands up those of you who are terrified, in despair and suicidal
# after being asked that question.. apart from the atheists of course,
# who seem to be SHITTING THEMSELVES IN HYSTERICAL PANIC!
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA!
#
# And the ridiculous fantasy that reading such an innocuous question
# will tip people into suicidal despair, is fully backed by Richard
# Dawkins,supported and FUNDED by the Atheist cult at large!
#
# Cult is the ONLY appropriate term for simple minded idiots
# who could, uncritically, accept such arrant NONSENSE on BLIND FAITH!
#
# And so, with no one throwing themselves under buses, or evening
# being worried enough to complain, in fact no evidence anyone except
# the Hysterical, lying Atheists gave a toss at all, the cult
# produced the first of their counter-beliefs.
#
# Apparently, they followed a website link to those who
# ran the ads, read the Bible and scared themselves stupid
# by their Fundie Literalist reading, (which precisely matches
# some of the Fundie Literalist theists! B^)
#
# Other atheists, clearly accepting the Official Atheist line
# without Question, have repeated her false claim that the Bus
#
# "Remember, that message of Hell is already being advertised on
# buses... the atheist ads were inspired by the Christian
#
# Naturally the Atheist campaign is inspired by the Theist texts,
# that's where all their ideas come from.. if only they didn't
# misunderstand and misrepresent them so tragically
#
#
# Atheism: The Blind leading the Blind Faithful! B^D
#
#
#http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion
who despite the absence of any verifyabel observation
History is observable.
and despite the fact that they assume God hasn't spoken for centuries,
Rubbish, the Church recognises that Muslims worship the same God.
claim - with certainty that there is one.
The historical evidence ...
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Sorry again,
I was only saying sorry, because I really DO feel sorry for you that
you are so wrong, And there you go again misinterpreting what I am
saying.
Then you make a serious blunder,
When I – while spelling horribly - claim there had been no notice from
God since about 600 AD
By which you mean the Islamic Revelation..
instead of giving a counterexample to disproof
my assertion, you claim my evidence (I didn’t give any) is my
ignorance.
Well, ignorance is when you don't know something relevant
to the discussion:

1844 The Bahai Revelation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_Faith

A young Persian poet, Tahireh, tore off her veil, and declared
"You may kill me if you wish, but you cannot stop the emancipation
of women." Half a century before the Suffragettes! The Equality
of men and Women was ONE of the ground breaking principles of this
revelation.

...you need to keep up!
Much later in you flood of words you claim “that Muslims
worship the same God. claim - with certainty that there is one.
Muslims claim they worship the same God, they always have;

# "And argue not with the People of the Scripture
# unless it be in ( a way) that is better,
# save with such of them as do wrong;
# and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us
# and revealed unto you;
# our God and your God is One,
# and unto Him we surrender."
#
# - The Qu'ran Sura 29 verse 46

After centuries of denying it, the Church representing
the largest number of Christians agrees:

# "DECLARATION ON THE RELATION OF THE CHURCH
# TO NON-CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS
#
# NOSTRA AETATE
#
# PROCLAIMED BY HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI
# ...
# 3. The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems.
# They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself;
# merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth,(5)
# who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to
# even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith
# of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God."
Apparently you fail to realize that according to Muslims Muhammad was
the last of the prophets
Far from 'failing to realise it, I have written extensively about it,
including this, most recently:

# Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:25:00 +1100
# From: fasgnadh <***@yahoo.com>
# Subject: Re: Why are there no Great, Enduring, Atheist Civilizations?
# -Because Atheists are frauds
# - ashamed of EVERY atheist regime that ever existed!!!!
# Message-ID: <494a2504$0$4046$***@news.optusnet.com.au>
#
(Referring to the Babi/Bahai dispensation, fiercely persecuted
in Persia - (Iran))

# As expected, the Islamic clergy rejected the renewal,
# and slaughtered 20,000 Babi's, and continue to persecute
# the Bahai, because like the Jews assessing Christ as Messiah,
# they see what they want to see, and have misunderstood what
# "Khatam-an-Nabiyyin" - Seal of the Prophets, means.
#
# Mohammed, according to the Koran, is NOT
# the 'Seal'(End) of the Messengers('Rasul') of God,
# he is the seal of the Prophets ('Nabi').
#
# The fundamental profession of Muslim faith,
# the Kalima Tayyab says:
#
# "La Ilaha Ill Allah Muhammadur Rasul Allah"
#
# Which translates as
#
# "There is no god but Allah, Muhammad is the Rasul (Messenger)
# of Allah"
#
# There are only 5 Rasul in the Koran, each credited with
# a distinct revelation:
#
# Ishmael, David, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad
#
# Thus the term Rasul designates 'Divine revelators',
# more than 'mere' Prophets.
#
# The term "Prophet" is distinctly different: "Nabi (sing.)
# anbiyaa, nabiyyin (pl.)
#
#
# There are 25 anbiyaa mentioned in the Koran, thus in addition to
# the Rasul there are another 20, including Enoch, Ezekial, Isiah etc
#
#
# Thus all Rasul are Nabi, but not all Nabi are Rasul.
#
# All of the Messengers are also prophets, but not all
# of the prophets are Messengers.. according to the Koran itself.
#
#
# Rasul denotes a higher station.
#
#
# The term "Khatam-an-Nabiyyin" - Seal of the Prophets thus refers
# to the seal of the PROPHETIC cycle, the lesser ones, not of the more
# ground-breaking and earth shattering Messengers. 8^)
#
# Moreover "Khatam" meaning seal, or ornament is used in the Koran,
# and not the related "Khatim", which is more commonly used to mean
# final or last.
#
# Mohammed is not the last messenger of God, according to the Koran.
#
# Lets hope the next one is a woman! B^D

I hope that clarifies the matter for you.

Just as the Jews, awaiting Messiah, expected a temporal King, with
a Sword and a throne, and crucified Christ because he did not 'appear'
to fit the bill. Their prophecy WAS fulfilled, as Jesus himself said,
his Sword was his Word, and his Kingdom in Heaven.

Many Muslims believe the common misunderstanding, that
"Khatam-an-Nabiyyin" - Seal of the Prophets means no one comes
after Mohammed, but ask them if Mohammed was a Rasul, Messenger,
as declared in their daily prayers, or merely a Prophet...

and see if they want to say he was of the LESSER station! B^)
and consequently they will treat anyone who
claims to have heard god as a liar. (if god spoke to me, ad I would
forward his words, I would necessarily be a prophet!)
It is not my claim but the theists claim that God cannot speak!
Accidentally Muhammad wasn’t spoken to by God either. He is said to
have received his “downsendings” from the Angel Gabriel.
The Bahai faith contains a description of receiving the revelation,
which may interest you.
After maliciously assuming that Atheism is equal to Stalinism and
Maoism,
Sorry, the ATHEISTS THEMSELVES make that claim, and there were
many more of them, having far greater impact in the world, than
a few thousands modern atheists who only manage to put some ads
for their beliefs on a bus!!!!


“Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism.”
-Vladimir I. Lenin

“Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.”
- V.I. Lenin

"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Stalin
- E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940

But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
but of the entire State apparatus;

The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
the red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[

“We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.
WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.”
-Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper

“Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,
and God from Heaven!” (early Soviet slogan)

"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853

"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"

"Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
In 1922, the Solovki Camp of Special Purpose, the first Russian
concentration camp was established in the Solovki Islands in the White Sea"

John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
(Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
and blaming half of the world’s state-terrorism on lack of
believe in a deity instead of to much fate in an ideology. You declare
victory.
You sophistry will not wash.. the HISTORICAL EVIDENCE is COMPELLING.

If modern Nazis claim "we like Jews" no one will believe them either.

ACTIONS, speak louder than words. Those Atheists were very active,
you are a bunch of effete dilettantes who endlessly debate your esoteric
ideology, and achieve NOTHING!

What it proves is that atheism is a useless, pointless, ineffectual
hot air festival, at best, and a bloody tyranny if it ever gets
political POWER!

That's why people vote for decent rational CHRISTIANS like Obama!
But let’s face it: You have provided no evidence for a God.
I am growing tired of doing all the work educating you and having you lie;

YOU claimed there has "been no notice from God since about 600 AD"

Well thanks for YOUR evidence!

I have added 1844, exactly the same events YOU referred to!

Then there is the historical evidence that EVERY great and enduring
civilisation is based on religion, and every atheist
society where God is denied is a BRUTAL TYRANNY..

Let those who have eyes, see! B^p
No
historical evidence (claiming it’s indisputable is not the same as
providing any!) Your claim the Chinese and Roman empires (great and
enduring civilizations) were founded on divine revelations, is also
not substantiated. Do you really not know that the Roman empire
started breaking apart within a hundred years of it becoming
predominantly Christian?
It became the Holy Roman Empire! More powerful than before!

Chian had a number of Pre-revolutionary faiths, including
Taoism and after the brief disaster with atheism, Mao's
Great Leap backward and Cultural Devolution, again allows
religions, and already there are 60,000,000 believers!
You also seem ignorant of the fact, that while the Christian God
apparently was unable to stop the onslaughts of Stalin and Hitler,
What do you mean? Both are defeated, by a nation which prints
"In God We Trust" on it's money!

Why do you lie so much!?
Dark matter and dark energy actually do have an impact on the
universe. (That is why they are thought to exist)
So does the messengers of God.. witness Judeao, Christian, Islamic
CIVILISATION.

Just as we THEORISE Dark matter because of it's EFFECTS, taking them as
EVIDENCE for what we cannot see, so it is with Religion!

Are you a hypocrite who changes your standards of Evidence arbitrarily??
For some silly reason (you do not give a reason for any of your
assertions it seems)
Clearly I have, see above.. you are lying again.
you are supposing that Atheism is a cult with a
leader.
Yes, for months atheists have told me they have no beliefs,
while telling me that they have a right to put them on London
buses!

I have read them, critically... every atheist simply accepts them
without question, they sent their money in, like a cult, the cult
leaders decided what the messages would be.. *I* found out the
second one planned, ( Emily Dickinson's EMO death piece!!)
before anyone in alt.atheism!!!!!!!!

Clearly they are ALL MUSHROOMS!!!

Kept in the Dark and Fed on BULLSHIT!

How is a cult different from that???

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAA
Again you are wrong. Atheism is the absence of believe in god
(s). There is nothing more to it.
Bullshit.. there is it's HISTORY, no matter how hard you TRY,
you simply cannot whitewash it out of existence, and you are a fucking
MORAL SHITPIG FOR TRYING!! No better than Nazis denying the Holocaust!!!

Then there is it's beliefs stuck on London buses.. found by the
ASA to be OPINIONS which cannot be substantiated!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAA

Now FUCK OFF BOZO AND GET A FUCKING CLUE!!

Relentlessly bleating the LITTLE THAT YOU KNOW, does not negate all
the EVIDENCE YOU ARE IGNORANT OF, *OR* REFUSE To ACKNOWLEDGE!!!

Capice?

In case that's not clear for you dimwits; If a Nazi says to me
"All Nazism mean is a Love of the Fatherland" they are making
a claim that they, and they alone, define Nazism.. but sadly for them,
Hitler does as well, and with more authority and weight!

And So I say to you.. GO TELL IT TO LENIN!!! B^D
Unlike you I try and make brief posts, so people can read it without
to much difficulty.
But you make so many false assertions I have to spend a lot of time
explaining your errors! And look at all of the things you were
ignorant about and needed to be educated on! B^p
It is rather impossible to disproof any facts in yours.
Sure.. I deal in evidence, you in unsupported assertions!
I do not know Ariane Sherin,
'Sherine' - As I said, your ignorance is extensive.
I do not subscribe to the views -
The Cult Leader Dawkins and ALL the Sheep in alt.atheism do...

clearly you are either the only 'REAL' Atheist on earth, or just
another clueless one, like all the rest! B^D
you claim –
this person has on the impact of the bus-Ad.
Where have you been.. Mars??

Are you atheists already starting to disown the disastrous
Bus Belief Folly!? BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA!
What I do think it has got people nervous.
Atheists , yes, they can see that your "all we are is folk
who don't believe in God" being BLOWN To SHIT by the Proselytising
of your IDEOLOGICAL BELIEFS on BUS ADS!

You have been OUTED! Media refers to the Atheist Religion!!! B^D
While theists in the past have been “modestly” claiming (with and
without hell fire) that they know the absolute truth with absolute
certainty and do not only know there surely is a God but also what
that God wants on subjects that did not exists in the times their
infallible holy books were written, Atheist have the nerve to “boldy”
claim that it probably isn’t so. That’s disturbing isn’t it?
No, your feeble caricature is disturbing, and
"the shear inability of atheist individuals to try and understand a
different viewpoint even when every effort is made to actually engage
them - is depressing" but your bus campaign is a JOKE! B^D

The only people you upset are the fundie Christians who are your
intellectual doppelgangers! B^D

Bus ads for your proselytising! B^D You are as crazy as each other!
Peter van Velzen
January 2009
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
PS
If you react to my words, please do not blend in the words of people I
do not know and do not attack their words as if they were mine. I can
speak for myself.
Sure, just don't try and tell me what atheism is, then.. because
clearly you don't speak for it, and know less about the London
Atheist campaign run by the Dawkins faction, than I DO!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

I will henceforth treat your posts as those of a lone Atheist heretic,
with no affiliation to the Atheists who run bus ads and tell me THEY
are the real atheists! B^D

After all the ASA says you are ALL FULL O SHIT, mere OPINIONS,
and none of those can even be substantiated!!!!!!!!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAAA

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British Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) finding on Atheist Beliefs

MERE OPINIONS - CAN'T BE SUBSTANTIATED!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7842769.stm

An atheist UK bus campaign which uses the slogan
"There's probably no God, So Don't Worry, Be Happy"
has been found by the Advertising Standards Authority
to be OPINIONS which cannot be objectively substantiated!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA

"the ASA ruled the adverts were an expression of the advertiser's
opinion and that the claims in it were not capable of objective
substantiation."

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
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