America's Two Largest "Blue", Or Democrat States, California And New York Are In Deep Financial Holes

[atticus1]

Americans have been living beyond their means. And this cannot be blamed on
Bush but on the American civilian population itself which has become to a
large extent, decadent, lazy, irresponsible, greedy and far too reliant on
government. Well, the chickens have come home to roost in NY state and
California. The latter
state, which has a GDP slightly higher than Canada's has a deficit for this
fiscal year of $12 billion. How would the Canadian media and the public be
reacting if
the conservative federal government of P.M. Stephen Harper, which is
fighting an expensive war in Afghanistan, had a deficit like California's?
BTW California does have a very moderate GOP governor but he is just a
figurehead as California has what is known as a "weak governor" system. The
real power is held by the Assembly which is dominated by radical Democrats
and has been for decades. Economist Arthur Laffer, the original proponent of
Reagonomics in the 1980s, appearing on Fox News, stated that he has moved to
Kansas to escape California's taxes. This would suggest that thousands of
rich individuals and successful corporations have, or will, be acting
similarly.

NY state, which has a heavily Democrat and corrupt state government is in
dire straits just like California with a current fiscal deficit of $11
billion. For quite some time most of upstate NY has been an economic basket
case, made that way to a large degree by onerous taxation. NYC had been
thriving up until the recent financial collapse and now real estate values
are falling through the floor as taxes are again going up. I am not sure
what this decaying city's deficit is but it must be
staggering.

However all the news is not bad. Help is on the way. America has a now a
black Democrat president/elect, Barack Obama. With his inspiring speeches
offering hope and change, he will soon make all things right again, helped
by a Congress, overwhelmingly Democrat, with such stellar leaders and
luminaries as Nancy Pelosi, Barney (the faggot) Frank, Charley Rangel, Harry
Reid etc.

[babeejm]

Post by atticus1
Americans have been living beyond their means. And this cannot be blamed on
Bush but on the American civilian population itself which has become to a
large extent, decadent, lazy, irresponsible, greedy and far too reliant on
government. Well, the chickens have come home to roost in NY state and
California. The latter
state, which has a GDP slightly higher than Canada's has a deficit for this
fiscal year of $12 billion. How would the Canadian media and the public be
reacting if
the conservative federal government of P.M. Stephen Harper, which is
fighting an expensive war in Afghanistan, had a deficit like California's?
BTW California does have a very moderate GOP governor but he is just a
figurehead as California has what is known as a "weak governor" system. The
real power is held by the Assembly which is dominated by radical Democrats
and has been for decades. Economist Arthur Laffer, the original proponent of
Reagonomics in the 1980s, appearing on Fox News, stated that he has moved to
Kansas to escape California's taxes. This would suggest that thousands of
rich individuals and successful corporations have, or will, be acting
similarly.
NY state, which has a heavily Democrat and corrupt state government is in
dire straits just like California with a current fiscal deficit of $11
billion. For quite some time most of upstate NY has been an economic basket
case, made that way to a large degree by onerous taxation. NYC had been
thriving up until the recent financial collapse and now real estate values
are falling through the floor as taxes are again going up. I am not sure
what this decaying city's deficit is but it must be
staggering.
However all the news is not bad. Help is on the way. America has a now a
black Democrat president/elect, Barack Obama. With his inspiring speeches
offering hope and change, he will soon make all things right again, helped
by a Congress, overwhelmingly Democrat, with such stellar leaders and
luminaries as Nancy Pelosi, Barney (the faggot) Frank, Charley Rangel, Harry
Reid etc.
--
"The avowed aim of all Utopian movements
is to put an end to history and establish a
final and permanent calm".
--Ludwig von Mises "The Anti-Capitalist
Mentality".
If I said that Americans are upset because they can't have what they think they

are entitled to like big fancy cars..and fancy homes..would I be out
of line?
I mean sure this economy thing is bad but Americans are notorious for
short attention spans..as soon as things improve just a
little..they'll be
bad to their bad habits once again..Living beyond their means just
like
the US government! Is Nancy Pelosi..Ted Kennedy..Reid..Frank and
JFKerry
really what this country needs and wants..if that is so..why isn't
Kerry waiting
to be inaugurated for his 2nd term!! I can't believe those people are
the
change we've been waiting for! And Emanuel..don't people know he
worked for President Bill Clinton when he was president?!! Why do we
get these retreads in the guise of change?

[J. P.]

Sanctimonious Right Wing Canadian Loon and Economic Illiterate Ross
John "atticus1" Lambourn wrote:

Thank God that Bush has kept the country fiscally fit with his supply
side, borrow and spend ways. Including funding tax cuts for the
wealthy with money borrowed from foreigners. Obviously the $10
trillion debt is proof of the fiscal conservatism of right wingers
like your beloved Bush.

[Archie]

On Nov 7, 9:16 am, "atticus1" <***@live.ca> wrote:

So, you didn't know that the governer of California is a Republican
and has been for several years now?

You really are a know nothing imbecile, aren't you?

Stay in Canada. There is a suplus of conservative ignoramuses in the
USA as it is.

[z***@netscape.net]

Post by atticus1
Americans have been living beyond their means. And this cannot be blamed on
Bush but on the American civilian population itself which has become to a
large extent, decadent, lazy, irresponsible, greedy and far too reliant on
government. Well, the chickens have come home to roost in NY state and
California. The latter
state, which has a GDP slightly higher than Canada's has a deficit for this
fiscal year of $12 billion. How would the Canadian media and the public be
reacting if
the conservative federal government of P.M. Stephen Harper, which is
fighting an expensive war in Afghanistan, had a deficit like California's?
BTW California does have a very moderate GOP governor but he is just a
figurehead as California has what is known as a "weak governor" system. The
real power is held by the Assembly which is dominated by radical Democrats
and has been for decades. Economist Arthur Laffer, the original proponent of
Reagonomics in the 1980s, appearing on Fox News, stated that he has moved to
Kansas to escape California's taxes. This would suggest that thousands of
rich individuals and successful corporations have, or will, be acting
similarly.
NY state, which has a heavily Democrat and corrupt state government is in
dire straits just like California with a current fiscal deficit of  $11
billion.

Well, New York State has never worried about deficits, since
there solution to everything has has always been
Washington will bail us out, if Connecticut doesn't.


For quite some time most of upstate NY has been an economic basket

Post by atticus1
case, made that way to a large degree by onerous taxation. NYC had been
thriving up until the recent financial collapse and now real estate values
are falling through the floor as taxes are again going up. I am not sure
what this decaying city's deficit is but it must be
staggering.

It's more than staggering, it's downright ludicrous. Since it's all
the
money that GM owes to US Steel.

Post by atticus1
However all the news is not bad. Help is on the way. America has a now a
black Democrat president/elect, Barack Obama. With his inspiring speeches
offering hope and change,  he will soon make all  things right again, helped
by a Congress, overwhelmingly Democrat, with such stellar leaders and
luminaries as Nancy Pelosi, Barney (the faggot) Frank, Charley Rangel, Harry
Reid etc.
--
"The avowed aim of all Utopian movements
is to put an end to history and establish a
final and permanent calm".
--Ludwig von Mises "The Anti-Capitalist
Mentality".

[zzpat]

Post by atticus1
Americans have been living beyond their means. And this cannot be
blamed on Bush but on the American civilian population itself which
has become to a large extent, decadent, lazy, irresponsible, greedy
and far too reliant on government. Well, the chickens have come home
to roost in NY state and California. The latter state, which has a GDP
slightly higher than Canada's has a deficit for this fiscal year of
$12 billion.

Some of us believe the central problem behind all these budget deficits
is tax cuts. The tax cut frenzy began in California but it swept the
nation under Reagan. Now that our national debt is $10.5 trillion one
would think (or know by now) that we've been under taxed for decades and
all statements about tax cuts being good for the economy were a hoax
perpetrated on dumb people by dumb people.

Put simply, if you want more military spending, pay for it. If you want
war, fine, pay for it. If don't want to pay for it, don't support
military spending or wars. It's really very simple.

[Sebastian Rector]

Post by zzpat

Post by atticus1
Americans have been living beyond their means. And this cannot be
blamed on Bush but on the American civilian population itself which
has become to a large extent, decadent, lazy, irresponsible, greedy
and far too reliant on government. Well, the chickens have come home
to roost in NY state and California. The latter state, which has a GDP
slightly higher than Canada's has a deficit for this fiscal year of
$12 billion.

Some of us believe the central problem behind all these budget deficits
is tax cuts.  The tax cut frenzy began in California but it swept the
nation under Reagan. Now that our national debt is $10.5 trillion one
would think (or know by now) that we've been under taxed for decades and
all statements about tax cuts being good for the economy were a hoax
perpetrated on dumb people by dumb people.

No, you are wrong. Taxes under Democrat Jimmy Carter were very high
yet he left office with
inflation, interest rates and unemployment in double digits. It was
called stagflation And that is why Carter was only a one
term president.

Post by zzpat
Put simply, if you want more military spending, pay for it. If you want
war, fine, pay for it.  If don't want to pay for it, don't support
military spending or wars. It's really very simple.
--
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[Jeffrey Turner]

Post by Sebastian Rector

Post by zzpat

Post by atticus1
Americans have been living beyond their means. And this cannot be
blamed on Bush but on the American civilian population itself which
has become to a large extent, decadent, lazy, irresponsible, greedy
and far too reliant on government. Well, the chickens have come home
to roost in NY state and California. The latter state, which has a GDP
slightly higher than Canada's has a deficit for this fiscal year of
$12 billion.

Some of us believe the central problem behind all these budget deficits
is tax cuts. The tax cut frenzy began in California but it swept the
nation under Reagan. Now that our national debt is $10.5 trillion one
would think (or know by now) that we've been under taxed for decades and
all statements about tax cuts being good for the economy were a hoax
perpetrated on dumb people by dumb people.

No, you are wrong. Taxes under Democrat Jimmy Carter were very high
yet he left office with
inflation, interest rates and unemployment in double digits. It was
called stagflation And that is why Carter was only a one
term president.

Thanks to the fact that the U.S. had gone way past its oil peak, and
OPEC started charging what the market would bear. My how the free-
marketers bitch and moan when the free market is done to them.

--Jeff

[Sebastian Rector]

Post by Jeffrey Turner

Post by Sebastian Rector

Post by zzpat

Post by atticus1
Americans have been living beyond their means. And this cannot be
blamed on Bush but on the American civilian population itself which
has become to a large extent, decadent, lazy, irresponsible, greedy
and far too reliant on government. Well, the chickens have come home
to roost in NY state and California. The latter state, which has a GDP
slightly higher than Canada's has a deficit for this fiscal year of
$12 billion.

Some of us believe the central problem behind all these budget deficits
is tax cuts.  The tax cut frenzy began in California but it swept the
nation under Reagan. Now that our national debt is $10.5 trillion one
would think (or know by now) that we've been under taxed for decades and
all statements about tax cuts being good for the economy were a hoax
perpetrated on dumb people by dumb people.

No, you are wrong. Taxes under Democrat Jimmy Carter were very high
yet he left office with
inflation, interest rates and unemployment in double digits. It was
called stagflation And that is why Carter was only a one
term president.

Thanks to the fact that the U.S. had gone way past its oil peak, and
OPEC started charging what the market would bear.  My how the free-
marketers bitch and moan when the free market is done to them.
--Jeff
--
I learned that ... the most grinding
poverty is a trifling evil compared
with the inequality of classes.
--William Morris- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

So what would Morris do? Have everyone declared equal by government
fiat. That was tried right after the Fench Revolution
of 1789; it didn't work, you moron.

[Bob Forrest]

Post by Jeffrey Turner
Thanks to the fact that the U.S. had gone way past its oil peak, and
OPEC started charging what the market would bear. My how the free-
marketers bitch and moan when the free market is done to them.

Chavez is the evil one, but 20% of US oil imports come from Venezuela, while
22% come from backwards Mexico and 25% come from Friendly Canada!

I say that Bush should, as his last act in office, ban oil imports from
Mexico and Venezuela.

That would show those fucking socialists! Nobody wants their oil!

So! There!

[Bob Forrest]

Post by Bob Forrest

Post by Jeffrey Turner
Thanks to the fact that the U.S. had gone way past its oil peak, and
OPEC started charging what the market would bear. My how the free-
marketers bitch and moan when the free market is done to them.

Chavez is the evil one, but 20% of US oil imports come from Venezuela, while
22% come from backwards Mexico and 25% come from Friendly Canada!
I say that Bush should, as his last act in office, ban oil imports from
Mexico and Venezuela.
That would show those fucking socialists! Nobody wants their oil!
So! There!

News Item:

"Bush bans 42% of oil imports, prices at the pump and heating oil soar!
Obama to blame".

[Governor Swill]

Post by Bob Forrest

Post by Bob Forrest

Post by Jeffrey Turner
Thanks to the fact that the U.S. had gone way past its oil peak, and
OPEC started charging what the market would bear. My how the free-
marketers bitch and moan when the free market is done to them.

Chavez is the evil one, but 20% of US oil imports come from Venezuela, while
22% come from backwards Mexico and 25% come from Friendly Canada!
I say that Bush should, as his last act in office, ban oil imports from
Mexico and Venezuela.
That would show those fucking socialists! Nobody wants their oil!
So! There!

"Bush bans 42% of oil imports, prices at the pump and heating oil soar!
Obama to blame".

Lol! Exactly! And they'll believe it too.

Swill

[d***@gmail.com]

Post by atticus1
Americans have been living beyond their means.

You have argued otherwise for several years. You continually came
into this newsgroup and crowed about American "prosperity" -- and
insulted (in your childish, Lambourn-temper-tantrum-nastydrunk kind of
way) anyone who tried to point out to you that the so-called
prosperity was anything other than an illusion built on goernment
debt, trade debt and bubble-market-home-equity debt.

As long as Bush was president you insisted the prosperity was real --
now suddenly, as soon as a Democrat is elected, you tell the newsgroup
that Americans are "living beyondf their means." So your story
changes with the stripe of government.

Lambourn -- the average street-level drug addict has more integrity
than you.

[beber]

On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:16:14 -0500, "atticus1" <***@live.ca> wrot

And new york just kicked the Republicans out of the statehouse, you
igonorant shithead.

[Kimbo]

Post by beber
And new york just kicked the Republicans out of the statehouse, you
igonorant shithead.

You expect the Canuck moron socialist to know anything about our politics?

Bwwwahahhhhaaahhhaa!!! Priceless!