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LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
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Jake WK
2004-07-22 02:59:39 UTC
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http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000582932

===Ronstadt May Return To Vegas Stage ===


Thanks to negotiations today (July 21) between the Recording Artists
Coalition (RAC) and the prospective new owners of Las Vegas's Aladdin
Theater, expect to see RAC member Linda Ronstadt back at the venue
this fall -- with filmmaker Michael Moore on backup vocals.

The singer was the recipient of heavy-handed treatment Saturday (July
17) when she dedicated the Eagles' "Desperado" (co-written by RAC
co-founder Don Henley) to Moore, the director of the anti-President
Bush documentary, "Fahrenheit 9/11."

News reports said some in the audience booed, stormed out of the
theater and tore down posters. Reports also said Ronstadt was escorted
off the premises without being allowed to return to her dressing room,
which she has subsequently denied.

After a day of negotiations, the prospective new owner of the venue,
Robert Earl, Chairman and CEO of Planet Hollywood International, Inc.,
issued the following statement:

"We hope to be approved by the Nevada Gaming Commission to become the
new owners of the Aladdin Resort in Las Vegas as early as September 1,
2004. Upon the assumption of ownership, and with a new management team
in place, we would like to offer the use of the Theatre of Performing
Arts to Linda Ronstadt for a second concert and further to take
Michael Moore up on his offer to join her on stage to introduce her
and sing a song."

"We respect artists' creativity and support their rights to express
themselves," said Earl. "We were very sorry to hear about the
unfortunate circumstances of this past Saturday night and want to make
it clear that Planet Hollywood has never, in our 13 year history,
restricted any artists' right to free speech and we will continue with
that policy once we take ownership."


-- Bill Holland, Washington, D.C.
Jim Alder
2004-07-22 04:54:26 UTC
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Jake WK <***@rake.com> wrote in news:Uyz=QGOn706GyGxA67RHb=***@4ax.com:

Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!

They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about what
MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Post by Jake WK
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0582932
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"Don't blame me! I voted for the _green_ M&M!" - H. Simpson
unknown
2004-07-22 05:17:56 UTC
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The war god meets with Amish,
Bush reportedly told the group:
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job."
http://lancasteronline.com/pages/news/local/4/7564
Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
2004-07-22 06:10:14 UTC
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If Bush is truly a man of Faith,
I believe that he asks the Almighty
to influence his decisions and actions.
I used that formula as a Cop.
There is something else besides
Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll.
Post by unknown
The war god meets with Amish,
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job."
http://lancasteronline.com/pages/news/local/4/7564
murray
2004-07-22 06:56:42 UTC
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Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
If Bush is truly a man of Faith,
I believe that he asks the Almighty
to influence his decisions and actions.
so you think a guy who takes directions from an imaginary being is the right
guy to be leading the country?

is that what you're saying?
Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
2004-07-22 07:41:48 UTC
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The Vast Majority of us out here
are not Atheist. You are a Minority.
Post by murray
Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
If Bush is truly a man of Faith,
I believe that he asks the Almighty
to influence his decisions and actions.
so you think a guy who takes directions from an imaginary being is the right
guy to be leading the country?
is that what you're saying?
murray
2004-07-22 09:52:07 UTC
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Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
The Vast Majority of us out here
are not Atheist. You are a Minority.
that's nice, but you didn't answer the question.

here it is again:

do you think a guy who takes directions from an imaginary being is the right
guy to be leading the country?

yes or no.
Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
Post by murray
Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
If Bush is truly a man of Faith,
I believe that he asks the Almighty
to influence his decisions and actions.
so you think a guy who takes directions from an imaginary being is the
right
Post by murray
guy to be leading the country?
is that what you're saying?
Highway66
2004-07-22 10:44:38 UTC
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Post by murray
that's nice, but you didn't answer the question.
do you think a guy who takes directions from an imaginary being is the right
guy to be leading the country?
yes or no.
He doesn't "take directions" from God .. only believes in him, as do most
Americans and so did FDR right after Pearl Harbor when he made his famous
"infamy" speech. Here's what he said:

"With confidence in our armed forces, with the unbounding determination of
our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph - so help us God."

We now have a President who believes the same way .. THANK GOD!
Jorgey
2004-07-22 15:33:12 UTC
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Post by Highway66
He doesn't "take directions" from God .. only believes in him, as do most
Americans ...
As we all know, what Bush says often isn't what he means.
Nonetheless, here is what he said:

"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn’t do my job.’’

That's a bit more than "believing in God." It's believing that the
odd thoughts occuring to Bush are messages from God and not
misfiring neurons.
unknown
2004-07-22 17:44:23 UTC
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Post by Jorgey
Post by Highway66
He doesn't "take directions" from God .. only believes in him, as do most
Americans ...
As we all know, what Bush says often isn't what he means.
That's terrifying considering he controls weapons of mass destruction.
Post by Jorgey
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn’t do my job.’’
"We'll all be dead."
-Bush

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/15/60minutes/main612067.shtml
Post by Jorgey
That's a bit more than "believing in God." It's believing that the
odd thoughts occuring to Bush are messages from God and not
misfiring neurons.
The Dr. Strangelove scene is appropriate:
http://www.jibjab.com/
Submariner
2004-07-22 20:10:51 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by Jorgey
As we all know, what Bush says often isn't what he means.
That's terrifying considering he controls weapons of mass destruction.
Post by Jorgey
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn’t do my job.’’
As a Christian, I find such statements to be blasphemous.
Post by unknown
"We'll all be dead."
-Bush
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/15/60minutes/main612067.shtml
Post by Jorgey
That's a bit more than "believing in God." It's believing that the
odd thoughts occuring to Bush are messages from God and not
misfiring neurons.
http://www.jibjab.com/
That's just what I thought of.. I guess these cautionary tales are lost on the
unintelligent.
gaffo
2004-07-23 00:32:47 UTC
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Post by Submariner
Post by unknown
Post by Jorgey
As we all know, what Bush says often isn't what he means.
That's terrifying considering he controls weapons of mass destruction.
Post by Jorgey
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn’t do my job.’’
As a Christian, I find such statements to be blasphemous.
my I ask why?

i'm not a Christian...........................just wondering.

Seems many Christains do not have a problem with Bu$hler's remark above.
Post by Submariner
Post by unknown
"We'll all be dead."
-Bush
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/15/60minutes/main612067.shtml
Post by Jorgey
That's a bit more than "believing in God." It's believing that the
odd thoughts occuring to Bush are messages from God and not
misfiring neurons.
http://www.jibjab.com/
That's just what I thought of.. I guess these cautionary tales are lost on the
unintelligent.
--
http://baltimorechronicle.com/041704reTreason.shtml

http://www.truthinaction.net/iraq/illegaljayne.htm


As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both
instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged.
And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air
-- however slight -lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.
Justice William O. Douglas, US Supreme Court (1939-75)

"It shows us that there were senior people in the Bush administration who
were seriously contemplating the use of torture, and trying to figure out
whether there were any legal loopholes that might allow them to commit
criminal acts, They seem to be putting forward a theory that the president
in wartime can essentially do what he wants regardless of what the law
may say,"
Tom Malinowski of Human Rights Watch - commenting upon Defense
Department Lawyer
Will Dunham's 56-page legalization of torture memo.

If you add all of those up, you should have a conservative rebellion against
the giant corporation in the White House masquerading as a human being named
George W. Bush. Just as progressives have been abandoned by the corporate
Democrats and told, "You got nowhere to go other than to stay home or
vote for
the Democrats", this is the fate of the authentic conservatives in the
Republican Party.
Ralph Nader - June 2004 - The American Conservative Magazine

"But I believe in torture and I will torture you."
-An American soldier shares the joys of Democracy with
an Iraqi prisoner.

"My mother praises me for fighting the Americans. If we are killed,
our wives and mothers will rejoice that we died defending the
freedom of our country.
-Iraqi Mahdi fighter

"We were bleeding from 3 a.m. until sunrise, soon American soldiers came.
One of them kicked me to see if I was alive. I pretended I was dead
so he wouldn't kill me. The soldier was laughing, when Yousef cried,
the soldier said: "'No, stop,"
-Shihab, survivor of USSA bombing of Iraqi wedding.

"the absolute convergence of the neoconservatives with the Christian
Zionists
and the pro-Israel lobby, driving U.S. Mideast policy."
-Don Wagner, an evangelical South Carolina minister

"Bush, in Austin, criticized President Clinton's administration for
the Kosovo military action.'Victory means exit strategy, and it's important
for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is,' Bush said."
Houston Chronicle 4/9/99

"Iraqis are sick of foreign people coming in their country and trying to
destabilize their country."
Washington, D.C., May 5, 2004

"The new administration seems to be paying no attention to the problem
of terrorism. What they will do is stagger along until there's a major
incident and then suddenly say, 'Oh my God, shouldn't we be organized
to deal with this?'"
- Paul Bremer, speaking to a McCormick Tribune Foundation conference
on terrorism in Wheaton, Ill. on Feb. 26, 2001.

"On Jan. 26, 1998, President Clinton received a letter imploring him to use
his State of the Union address to make removal of Saddam Hussein's regime
the "aim of American foreign policy" and to use military action because
"diplomacy is failing." Were Clinton to do that, the signers pledged, they
would "offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor."
Signing the pledge were Elliott Abrams, Bill Bennett, John Bolton, Robert
Kagan, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Richard L. Armitage, Jeffrey
Bergner,
Paula Dobriansky, Francis Fukuyama, Zalmay Khalilzad, Peter W. Rodman,
William Schneider, Jr., Vin Weber, R. James Woolsey and Robert B. Zoellick,
Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz. Four years before 9/11, the neocons had
Baghdad on their minds."
-philip (usenet)

"I had better things to do in the 60s than fight in Vietnam,"
-Richard Cheney, Kerry critic.

"I hope they will understand that in order for this government to get up
and running
- to be effective - some of its sovereignty will have to be given
back, if I can put it that way,
or limited by them, It's sovereignty but [some] of that sovereignty they
are going to allow us to exercise
on their behalf and with their permission."
- Powell 4/27/04

"We're trying to explain how things are going, and they are going as they
are going," he said, adding: "Some things are going well and some things
obviously are not going well. You're going to have good days and bad days."
On the road to democracy, this "is one moment, and there will be other
moments. And there will be good moments and there will be less good
moments."
- Rumsfeld 4/6/04

"I also have this belief, strong belief, that freedom is not this
country's gift to the world; freedom is the Almighty's gift to
every man and woman in this world. And as the greatest power on
the face of the Earth, we have an obligation to help the spread
of freedom."
~ Bush the Crusader


RUSSERT: Are you prepared to lose?

BUSH: No, I'm not going to lose.

RUSSERT: If you did, what would you do?

BUSH: Well, I don't plan on losing. I've got a vision for what I want to
do for the country.
See, I know exactly where I want to lead.................And we got
changing times
here in America, too., 2/8/04


"And that's very important for, I think, the people to understand where
I'm coming from,
to know that this is a dangerous world. I wish it wasn't. I'm a war
president.
I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with
war on my mind.
- pResident of the United State of America, 2/8/04


"Let's talk about the nuclear proposition for a minute. We know that
based on intelligence, that he has been very, very good at hiding
these kinds of efforts. He's had years to get good at it and we know
he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons.
And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."
- Vice President Dick Cheney, on "Meet the Press", 3/16/03


"I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the
Iraqis had nuclear weapons."
- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, 6/24/03


"I think in this case international law
stood in the way of doing the right thing (invading Iraq)."
- Richard Perle


"He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with
respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project
conventional power against his neighbours."
- Colin Powell February 24 2001


"We have been successful for the last ten years in keeping
him from developing those weapons and we will continue to be successful."

"He threatens not the United States."

"But I also thought that we had pretty
much removed his stings and frankly for ten years we really have."

'But what is interesting is that with the regime that has been in place
for the past ten years, I think a pretty good job has been done of
keeping him from breaking out and suddenly showing up one day and saying
"look what I got." He hasn't been able to do that.'
- Colin Powell February 26 2001
Submariner
2004-07-22 20:06:51 UTC
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Post by Jorgey
Post by Highway66
He doesn't "take directions" from God .. only believes in him, as do most
Americans ...
As we all know, what Bush says often isn't what he means.
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job.''
That's a bit more than "believing in God." It's believing that the
odd thoughts occuring to Bush are messages from God and not
misfiring neurons.
It takes one hell of an audacious megalomaniac to claim that God speaks
through him.
Marie Antoinette
2004-07-23 17:14:07 UTC
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Post by Submariner
Post by Jorgey
Post by Highway66
He doesn't "take directions" from God .. only believes in him, as do most
Americans ...
As we all know, what Bush says often isn't what he means.
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job.''
That's a bit more than "believing in God." It's believing that the
odd thoughts occuring to Bush are messages from God and not
misfiring neurons.
It takes one hell of an audacious megalomaniac to claim that God speaks
through him.
Uh, liberals do it all the time but call it by a different name.
Substitute Socialism for God and you have a group of "social
reformers" who have killed more people in the last century alone than
have died in all the religious wars in the history of mankind.

Yeppers, this crowd should start carrying Bibles because if they did
there would be perhaps 150 million people alive that were killed by
them. A religion is a religion and one doesn't need it in between the
covers of a Bible to do far more damage to mankind.

Marie Antoinette
gaffo
2004-07-23 00:30:43 UTC
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Post by Jorgey
Post by Highway66
He doesn't "take directions" from God .. only believes in him, as do most
Americans ...
As we all know, what Bush says often isn't what he means.
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn’t do my job.’’
That's a bit more than "believing in God." It's believing that the
odd thoughts occuring to Bush are messages from God and not
misfiring neurons.
yes the "though me" part is very Hitlereque.

Like he is only the instrument of wrathe by which God will cleans the Earth.

A maniac - gets to absolve all self responsibilty too. "god made him do it".


They guy is a "clear and present danger" to Liberty.

No doubt.
--
http://baltimorechronicle.com/041704reTreason.shtml

http://www.truthinaction.net/iraq/illegaljayne.htm


As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both
instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged.
And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air
-- however slight -lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.
Justice William O. Douglas, US Supreme Court (1939-75)

"It shows us that there were senior people in the Bush administration who
were seriously contemplating the use of torture, and trying to figure out
whether there were any legal loopholes that might allow them to commit
criminal acts, They seem to be putting forward a theory that the president
in wartime can essentially do what he wants regardless of what the law
may say,"
Tom Malinowski of Human Rights Watch - commenting upon Defense
Department Lawyer
Will Dunham's 56-page legalization of torture memo.

If you add all of those up, you should have a conservative rebellion against
the giant corporation in the White House masquerading as a human being named
George W. Bush. Just as progressives have been abandoned by the corporate
Democrats and told, "You got nowhere to go other than to stay home or
vote for
the Democrats", this is the fate of the authentic conservatives in the
Republican Party.
Ralph Nader - June 2004 - The American Conservative Magazine

"But I believe in torture and I will torture you."
-An American soldier shares the joys of Democracy with
an Iraqi prisoner.

"My mother praises me for fighting the Americans. If we are killed,
our wives and mothers will rejoice that we died defending the
freedom of our country.
-Iraqi Mahdi fighter

"We were bleeding from 3 a.m. until sunrise, soon American soldiers came.
One of them kicked me to see if I was alive. I pretended I was dead
so he wouldn't kill me. The soldier was laughing, when Yousef cried,
the soldier said: "'No, stop,"
-Shihab, survivor of USSA bombing of Iraqi wedding.

"the absolute convergence of the neoconservatives with the Christian
Zionists
and the pro-Israel lobby, driving U.S. Mideast policy."
-Don Wagner, an evangelical South Carolina minister

"Bush, in Austin, criticized President Clinton's administration for
the Kosovo military action.'Victory means exit strategy, and it's important
for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is,' Bush said."
Houston Chronicle 4/9/99

"Iraqis are sick of foreign people coming in their country and trying to
destabilize their country."
Washington, D.C., May 5, 2004

"The new administration seems to be paying no attention to the problem
of terrorism. What they will do is stagger along until there's a major
incident and then suddenly say, 'Oh my God, shouldn't we be organized
to deal with this?'"
- Paul Bremer, speaking to a McCormick Tribune Foundation conference
on terrorism in Wheaton, Ill. on Feb. 26, 2001.

"On Jan. 26, 1998, President Clinton received a letter imploring him to use
his State of the Union address to make removal of Saddam Hussein's regime
the "aim of American foreign policy" and to use military action because
"diplomacy is failing." Were Clinton to do that, the signers pledged, they
would "offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor."
Signing the pledge were Elliott Abrams, Bill Bennett, John Bolton, Robert
Kagan, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Richard L. Armitage, Jeffrey
Bergner,
Paula Dobriansky, Francis Fukuyama, Zalmay Khalilzad, Peter W. Rodman,
William Schneider, Jr., Vin Weber, R. James Woolsey and Robert B. Zoellick,
Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz. Four years before 9/11, the neocons had
Baghdad on their minds."
-philip (usenet)

"I had better things to do in the 60s than fight in Vietnam,"
-Richard Cheney, Kerry critic.

"I hope they will understand that in order for this government to get up
and running
- to be effective - some of its sovereignty will have to be given
back, if I can put it that way,
or limited by them, It's sovereignty but [some] of that sovereignty they
are going to allow us to exercise
on their behalf and with their permission."
- Powell 4/27/04

"We're trying to explain how things are going, and they are going as they
are going," he said, adding: "Some things are going well and some things
obviously are not going well. You're going to have good days and bad days."
On the road to democracy, this "is one moment, and there will be other
moments. And there will be good moments and there will be less good
moments."
- Rumsfeld 4/6/04

"I also have this belief, strong belief, that freedom is not this
country's gift to the world; freedom is the Almighty's gift to
every man and woman in this world. And as the greatest power on
the face of the Earth, we have an obligation to help the spread
of freedom."
~ Bush the Crusader


RUSSERT: Are you prepared to lose?

BUSH: No, I'm not going to lose.

RUSSERT: If you did, what would you do?

BUSH: Well, I don't plan on losing. I've got a vision for what I want to
do for the country.
See, I know exactly where I want to lead.................And we got
changing times
here in America, too., 2/8/04


"And that's very important for, I think, the people to understand where
I'm coming from,
to know that this is a dangerous world. I wish it wasn't. I'm a war
president.
I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with
war on my mind.
- pResident of the United State of America, 2/8/04


"Let's talk about the nuclear proposition for a minute. We know that
based on intelligence, that he has been very, very good at hiding
these kinds of efforts. He's had years to get good at it and we know
he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons.
And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."
- Vice President Dick Cheney, on "Meet the Press", 3/16/03


"I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the
Iraqis had nuclear weapons."
- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, 6/24/03


"I think in this case international law
stood in the way of doing the right thing (invading Iraq)."
- Richard Perle


"He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with
respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project
conventional power against his neighbours."
- Colin Powell February 24 2001


"We have been successful for the last ten years in keeping
him from developing those weapons and we will continue to be successful."

"He threatens not the United States."

"But I also thought that we had pretty
much removed his stings and frankly for ten years we really have."

'But what is interesting is that with the regime that has been in place
for the past ten years, I think a pretty good job has been done of
keeping him from breaking out and suddenly showing up one day and saying
"look what I got." He hasn't been able to do that.'
- Colin Powell February 26 2001
Marie Antoinette
2004-07-22 19:00:58 UTC
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Post by Highway66
Post by murray
that's nice, but you didn't answer the question.
do you think a guy who takes directions from an imaginary being is the
right
Post by murray
guy to be leading the country?
yes or no.
He doesn't "take directions" from God .. only believes in him, as do most
Americans and so did FDR right after Pearl Harbor when he made his famous
"With confidence in our armed forces, with the unbounding determination of
our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph - so help us God."
We now have a President who believes the same way .. THANK GOD!
You got that right, sir! Bush is also not a treasonous coward who
defamed the men he served with for self-aggrandizement, or who grabbed
three bogus purple hearts, or who made it a career of marrying
billionaire chicks.

Gigolo John "I Married Billions" Kerry ought to be in jail, not
running for president. We ought to take him at his word that he's a
war criminal and deal with him accordingly. Like the liberals are fond
of telling us, when you deliberately commit war crimes, blaming your
superiors does not get you off the hook. THROW THE PHILANDERING BUM IN
JAIL - NOW!!!!!!!

Marie Antoinette
Submariner
2004-07-22 19:57:40 UTC
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Post by Marie Antoinette
You got that right, sir! Bush is also not a treasonous coward who
Yeah, yeah, save it for the Devil and get your head on the block, bitch.
Spartakus
2004-07-22 23:35:57 UTC
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Post by Marie Antoinette
Post by Highway66
Post by murray
that's nice, but you didn't answer the question.
do you think a guy who takes directions from an imaginary being
is the right guy to be leading the country?
yes or no.
He doesn't "take directions" from God .. only believes in him, as do most
Americans and so did FDR right after Pearl Harbor when he made his famous
"With confidence in our armed forces, with the unbounding determination of
our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph - so help us God."
We now have a President who believes the same way .. THANK GOD!
You got that right, sir! Bush is also not a
a man who faithfully served his country in uniform in combat, as did
John Kerry or at least in a combat zone, as did Al Gore. Are you
really STOOPID enough to want a comparison of their respective service
histories? From:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/4/21/164415/416

While at Yale

Kerry enlisted in the US Naval Reserves. Feb. 18, 1966

Bush received student deferments until June 1968; that year marked the
height of the Vietnam draft. [Washington Post, 7/28/99] Applied for
spot in Texas Air National Guard in January of 1968, before
graduation. Before he graduated, Bush personally visited Col. Walter
"Buck" Staudt -- the commander of the Texas Air National Guard -- to
talk about the Guard. After Bush met with Staudt, he applied and was
quickly accepted -- despite a waiting list of over 150 applicants.
Contrary to Bush's denials of special treatment, it was later
disclosed that a personal friend of Bush's father had secured the spot
in the Guard for Bush. Bush later acknowledges he entered Guard to
avoid going to Vietnam: "I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out
with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go
to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how to fly
airplanes." [Houston Chronicle, 5/8/94]

After Graduation

Kerry enters and completes Officer Training School.

Bush joined the Texas Air National Guard after his student deferment
ran out when he graduated from Yale in 1968. "His score on the pilot
aptitude section, one of five on the test, was in the 25th percentile,
the lowest allowed for would-be fliers." [Dallas Morning News, 7/4/99]
Bush received a direct appointment, allowing him to become a second
lieutenant right out of basic training without having to go though
officer candidate school. The direct appointment also cleared the way
for a position in pilot training school. [Houston Chronicle, 10/10/92;
Los Angeles Times, 7/4/99] On Bush's application to the 147th Fighter
Group at Ellington Air Force Base in Texas, Bush was asked what his
"Area Assignment Preferences" were. Bush checked the box beside "Do
Not Volunteer" for overseas duty. [Application for Extended Duty With
The United States Air Force, 5/27/68]

First Assignment

Kerry was deployed to Western Pacific to Support Operations in Vietnam

In the summer of 1970, Bush moved into the Chateaux Dijon apartment
complex, "a popular spot for singles, it offered fancy street lamps
and striped awnings and six pools filled with ambitious secretaries,
students and young businessmen. Bush relished his bachelor life there.
He played hard, plunging into all-day water volleyball games, but left
frequently for 24-hour flight duty in the alert shack at Ellington
Field." [Washington Post, 7/28/99]

On Feb. 10, 1968, Kerry requests duty in Vietnam. He lists his first
billet preference as an Officer in Charge of a swift boat and his
second as a patrol officer in a River Patrol Boat (PBR) squadron.

In May 1972, Bush gets a job on an Alabama Senate Campaign. He leaves
Houston and requests transfer to the 9921st Air Reserve Squadron in
Alabama. Although Bush notes his aeronautical rating as "flying
status," his request is turned down because the 9921 was a postal
unit. His transfer is later approved to a different Alabama unit. [AF
1288--Bush signature, 24 May 72; Approved: 26 May 72]

Second Assignment

Kerry leaves his post on the Gridley, and becomes a student at the
Naval Amphibious Base, in Coronado, California in preparation for
service on a swift boat in Vietnam. He is promoted from Ensign to Lt.
JG and extends his active duty commitment by six months. While in
Vietnam Kerry is involved in more than a dozen missions receiving
hostile fire. He is wounded three times and decorated with three
Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star. Kerry is ordered by
Naval regulations to return home after being wounded three times.

During Bush's service in Alabama:
He is suspended from flight status for his failure to take required
annual medical exam. [Washington Post, 2/15/02; Aeronautical Orders,
Number 87, 29 Sept 72; AFM 35-13, Para 2-29m] He attends the
Republican National Convention in Miami, Florida with his father.
[Bill Minutaglio, First Son, p. 144]. Pay records released by the
White House show that he was paid for 2 days service during the
six-month period covering the Blount campaign. [White House Release:
Bush Pay Records] Bush's superior officers were unable to complete
his annual evaluation for 1972 because, "Lt. Bush has not been
observed at this unit during the period of report." [AF-77, 2 May 73]

Additional Service

Kerry completes Full Active Duty Commitment

According to records released by the White House itself, Bush may
fallen short on minimum requirements expected for Guard members. Bush
served 25 days of combined active and weekend Guard duty between May
27, 1972 and May 26, 1973, even though minimum requirements were one
weekend a month--24 days a year--plus another 15 days of active duty.
Moreover, in 1973 Bush received 15 extra (called "gratuitous") points
toward the 50 points needed each year toward his retirement. Guard
members commonly received such extras if they had already met the
minimum 50 points each year without the additional points. Bush only
earned 41 points during the 1972-3 year. According to Wayne Rambo, who
was chief administrative officer of the Alabama unit to which Bush was
assigned, "that would have been a decided violation of the norm"
because extra points were meant "only as a reward to reservists for
meeting their bottom line." [Boston Globe, 2/11/04; Memphis Flyer,
2/16/04]

The bottom line? While Kerry was taking incoming, Bush was playing
"all-day water volleyball games" with "ambitious secretaries". And
the GOP wants to make Kerry's military service an issue?

**************************

Indeed, you have to be

Really

Stupid

to harp on a topic where Kerry is much, MUCH stronger than Bush.
Johnny Bravo
2004-07-23 08:00:02 UTC
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Hi Everyone,
The story is starting to break now--It seems that Teresa Heinz Kerry once
did the lickety split on a puddy!!
Spartakus
2004-07-23 16:12:58 UTC
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Post by Johnny Bravo
Hi Everyone,
The story is starting to break now--It seems that Teresa Heinz Kerry
once did the lickety split on a puddy!!
Right. And there has been a disturbing number of disappearances of
small animals since "Johnny Bravo" moved into the neighborhood.
Black Christ
2004-07-24 00:52:35 UTC
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I suppose it sounds better than "God came in my ass."
--
I wish that death to mankind comes so quickly that mankind will not have
time to destroy natures potential for future evolution.
- Pentti Linkola

We forfeit three-fourths of ourselves in order to be like other people.
- Arthur Schopenhauer

Truth will first be ridiculed, then violently opposed, and finally accepted
as self-evident.
- A. Schopenhauer

For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD
thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself,
above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
- The Bible, Deuteronomy 7:6
Post by Spartakus
Post by Marie Antoinette
Post by Highway66
Post by murray
that's nice, but you didn't answer the question.
do you think a guy who takes directions from an imaginary being
is the right guy to be leading the country?
yes or no.
He doesn't "take directions" from God .. only believes in him, as do most
Americans and so did FDR right after Pearl Harbor when he made his famous
"With confidence in our armed forces, with the unbounding
determination of
Post by Spartakus
Post by Marie Antoinette
Post by Highway66
our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph - so help us God."
We now have a President who believes the same way .. THANK GOD!
You got that right, sir! Bush is also not a
a man who faithfully served his country in uniform in combat, as did
John Kerry or at least in a combat zone, as did Al Gore. Are you
really STOOPID enough to want a comparison of their respective service
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/4/21/164415/416
While at Yale
Kerry enlisted in the US Naval Reserves. Feb. 18, 1966
Bush received student deferments until June 1968; that year marked the
height of the Vietnam draft. [Washington Post, 7/28/99] Applied for
spot in Texas Air National Guard in January of 1968, before
graduation. Before he graduated, Bush personally visited Col. Walter
"Buck" Staudt -- the commander of the Texas Air National Guard -- to
talk about the Guard. After Bush met with Staudt, he applied and was
quickly accepted -- despite a waiting list of over 150 applicants.
Contrary to Bush's denials of special treatment, it was later
disclosed that a personal friend of Bush's father had secured the spot
in the Guard for Bush. Bush later acknowledges he entered Guard to
avoid going to Vietnam: "I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out
with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go
to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how to fly
airplanes." [Houston Chronicle, 5/8/94]
After Graduation
Kerry enters and completes Officer Training School.
Bush joined the Texas Air National Guard after his student deferment
ran out when he graduated from Yale in 1968. "His score on the pilot
aptitude section, one of five on the test, was in the 25th percentile,
the lowest allowed for would-be fliers." [Dallas Morning News, 7/4/99]
Bush received a direct appointment, allowing him to become a second
lieutenant right out of basic training without having to go though
officer candidate school. The direct appointment also cleared the way
for a position in pilot training school. [Houston Chronicle, 10/10/92;
Los Angeles Times, 7/4/99] On Bush's application to the 147th Fighter
Group at Ellington Air Force Base in Texas, Bush was asked what his
"Area Assignment Preferences" were. Bush checked the box beside "Do
Not Volunteer" for overseas duty. [Application for Extended Duty With
The United States Air Force, 5/27/68]
First Assignment
Kerry was deployed to Western Pacific to Support Operations in Vietnam
In the summer of 1970, Bush moved into the Chateaux Dijon apartment
complex, "a popular spot for singles, it offered fancy street lamps
and striped awnings and six pools filled with ambitious secretaries,
students and young businessmen. Bush relished his bachelor life there.
He played hard, plunging into all-day water volleyball games, but left
frequently for 24-hour flight duty in the alert shack at Ellington
Field." [Washington Post, 7/28/99]
On Feb. 10, 1968, Kerry requests duty in Vietnam. He lists his first
billet preference as an Officer in Charge of a swift boat and his
second as a patrol officer in a River Patrol Boat (PBR) squadron.
In May 1972, Bush gets a job on an Alabama Senate Campaign. He leaves
Houston and requests transfer to the 9921st Air Reserve Squadron in
Alabama. Although Bush notes his aeronautical rating as "flying
status," his request is turned down because the 9921 was a postal
unit. His transfer is later approved to a different Alabama unit. [AF
1288--Bush signature, 24 May 72; Approved: 26 May 72]
Second Assignment
Kerry leaves his post on the Gridley, and becomes a student at the
Naval Amphibious Base, in Coronado, California in preparation for
service on a swift boat in Vietnam. He is promoted from Ensign to Lt.
JG and extends his active duty commitment by six months. While in
Vietnam Kerry is involved in more than a dozen missions receiving
hostile fire. He is wounded three times and decorated with three
Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star. Kerry is ordered by
Naval regulations to return home after being wounded three times.
He is suspended from flight status for his failure to take required
annual medical exam. [Washington Post, 2/15/02; Aeronautical Orders,
Number 87, 29 Sept 72; AFM 35-13, Para 2-29m] He attends the
Republican National Convention in Miami, Florida with his father.
[Bill Minutaglio, First Son, p. 144]. Pay records released by the
White House show that he was paid for 2 days service during the
Bush Pay Records] Bush's superior officers were unable to complete
his annual evaluation for 1972 because, "Lt. Bush has not been
observed at this unit during the period of report." [AF-77, 2 May 73]
Additional Service
Kerry completes Full Active Duty Commitment
According to records released by the White House itself, Bush may
fallen short on minimum requirements expected for Guard members. Bush
served 25 days of combined active and weekend Guard duty between May
27, 1972 and May 26, 1973, even though minimum requirements were one
weekend a month--24 days a year--plus another 15 days of active duty.
Moreover, in 1973 Bush received 15 extra (called "gratuitous") points
toward the 50 points needed each year toward his retirement. Guard
members commonly received such extras if they had already met the
minimum 50 points each year without the additional points. Bush only
earned 41 points during the 1972-3 year. According to Wayne Rambo, who
was chief administrative officer of the Alabama unit to which Bush was
assigned, "that would have been a decided violation of the norm"
because extra points were meant "only as a reward to reservists for
meeting their bottom line." [Boston Globe, 2/11/04; Memphis Flyer,
2/16/04]
The bottom line? While Kerry was taking incoming, Bush was playing
"all-day water volleyball games" with "ambitious secretaries". And
the GOP wants to make Kerry's military service an issue?
**************************
Indeed, you have to be
Really
Stupid
to harp on a topic where Kerry is much, MUCH stronger than Bush.
Ruth
2004-07-22 09:59:40 UTC
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"Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)" <***@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
message news:0dKLc.121954$***@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
<The Vast Majority of us out here > are not Atheist. You are a Minority.>

didn't Son of Sam think the same thing???
--
Ruth + Gretta, one old weim + Woody, the corgimon and Thelma, the three
legged wonder cat
Submariner
2004-07-22 20:02:24 UTC
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Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
The Vast Majority of us out here
are not Atheist. You are a Minority.
And, you know what cops do to minorities.
Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
Post by murray
Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
If Bush is truly a man of Faith,
I believe that he asks the Almighty
to influence his decisions and actions.
so you think a guy who takes directions from an imaginary being is the
right
Post by murray
guy to be leading the country?
is that what you're saying?
Marie Antoinette
2004-07-22 17:17:01 UTC
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Post by murray
Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
If Bush is truly a man of Faith,
I believe that he asks the Almighty
to influence his decisions and actions.
so you think a guy who takes directions from an imaginary being is the right
guy to be leading the country?
is that what you're saying?
Murray, why don't you tell us where and from whom liberals get their
guidance? From whence their infallible knowledge of the THE WAY, THE
TRUTH AND THE LIGHT they keep trying to force on the rest of us? Yeh,
where does their own pipeline to the truth lead? Are you telling us
that someone with no beliefs in a Higher Power is automatically a
better leader than one with a belief in God?

Study some history of the atheistic, socialist "leaders" of the 20th
century and just where their "beliefs" led the world. Between Stalin,
Kruschev, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao Tse Tung, Saddam Hussein, Ho Chi Minh
and North Korea's Kim they've left a trail of murdered and butchered
and war dead approaching 150 million people.

Sir, we prefer men like Bush. We know who you lefties prefer. It was a
far, far better country 50 years ago when Christians and devout Jews
were running things - and I say that as a non-Jew and non-Christian.
Your crowd has made of this country a filthy, nasty pig sty filled
with all manner of evil, coarseness and vile degeneracy. Shame on you
all.

We will give Bush 44 states in November. Go Bush!!!! Four More
Years!!!!

Marie Antoinette
Phyl
2004-07-22 17:54:28 UTC
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Marie Antoinette wrote:

[snipped]
Post by Marie Antoinette
Sir, we prefer men like Bush. We know who you lefties prefer. It was a
far, far better country 50 years ago when Christians and devout Jews
were running things - and I say that as a non-Jew and non-Christian.
Better for whom? Blacks? Women? Children? Persons with disabilities?
Post by Marie Antoinette
Your crowd has made of this country a filthy, nasty pig sty filled
with all manner of evil, coarseness and vile degeneracy. Shame on you
all.
As for coarseness, was it a *Democratic* Vice President that told a
fellow civil servant to "Go f*** yourself"?

I think not.

Try again, thanks for playing.

--
PHyl
Mamamia
2004-07-22 19:17:00 UTC
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Post by Marie Antoinette
Murray, why don't you tell us where and from whom liberals get their
guidance? From whence their infallible knowledge of the THE WAY, THE
TRUTH AND THE LIGHT they keep trying to force on the rest of us? Yeh,
where does their own pipeline to the truth lead? Are you telling us
that someone with no beliefs in a Higher Power is automatically a
better leader than one with a belief in God?
Study some history of the atheistic, socialist "leaders" of the 20th
century and just where their "beliefs" led the world. Between Stalin,
Kruschev, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao Tse Tung, Saddam Hussein, Ho Chi Minh
and North Korea's Kim they've left a trail of murdered and butchered
and war dead approaching 150 million people.
Sir, we prefer men like Bush. We know who you lefties prefer. It was a
far, far better country 50 years ago when Christians and devout Jews
were running things - and I say that as a non-Jew and non-Christian.
Your crowd has made of this country a filthy, nasty pig sty filled
with all manner of evil, coarseness and vile degeneracy. Shame on you
all.
We will give Bush 44 states in November. Go Bush!!!! Four More
Years!!!!
HELL, WOMAN, THAT WAS JUST A SOCK IN HIS BRITCHES WHEN HE STOOD ON THAT
CARRIER! You act like you think it was the real thing, sweetie. Get a
life! REAL Christians don't have to advertise it, it speaks in their
lives. They don't have to kill people to feel better. They don't have to
push the poor down or make middle-class people into poor people. They
don't have to do favors for their corporate and oil buddies to feel
good. And they don't let our nation be defenseless while they fight wars
that are senseless. You're really pitiful, ya know?
--
Mamamia
========
"When did you realize that you were God?"
"While praying. I realized I was talking to myself."
--Peter O'Toole, playing the 14th Earl of Gurney,
who has the delusion that he is Jesus Christ in "The Ruling Class"
unknown
2004-07-22 13:13:50 UTC
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Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
If Bush is truly a man of Faith,
I believe that he asks the Almighty
to influence his decisions and actions.
I used that formula as a Cop.
In the movie "Castaway" Tom Hanks used a soccer ball named "Wilson".
Faith is one thing, proclaiming himself a prophet for Wilson is another.
Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
There is something else besides
Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll.
Post by unknown
The war god meets with Amish,
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job."
http://lancasteronline.com/pages/news/local/4/7564
unknown
2004-07-22 13:44:52 UTC
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Right-wing nutcase "Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)"
Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
If Bush is truly a man of Faith,
He has strong faith in torturing the innocent (including children). He has
faith in non-existent WMD's.
Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
I believe that he asks the Almighty
to influence his decisions and actions.
Prove that god exists, and that Bush is not insane, and then we can talk.
Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
I used that formula as a Cop.
Oh, I see. Well, I'm glad you weren't a sadist like Bush's torture squad.
Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
There is something else besides
Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll.
Humans have created many gods in their image. Bush's "god" is but one of
them, just as fictional as the rest.

@
Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
Post by unknown
The war god meets with Amish,
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job."
http://lancasteronline.com/pages/news/local/4/7564
Ihatekerie Sosuemie
2004-07-22 14:19:23 UTC
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Post by unknown
Right-wing nutcase "Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)"
Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
If Bush is truly a man of Faith,
He has strong faith in torturing the innocent (including children).
<plonk>
Submariner
2004-07-22 20:01:46 UTC
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Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
If Bush is truly a man of Faith,
I believe that he asks the Almighty
to influence his decisions and actions.
I used that formula as a Cop.
There is something else besides
Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll.
Right. There's hungry kids, an ailing environment, and a bunch of killers and
thieves running the
country.

Just what we need, another cop who thinks he's a divine avenger.

41 shots.
Post by Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
Post by unknown
The war god meets with Amish,
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job."
http://lancasteronline.com/pages/news/local/4/7564
Retarded Death Row Inmates 4 Bush
2004-07-22 23:43:45 UTC
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Post by unknown
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job."
Someone else believes God speaks/works through them....Osama bin Laden.
Tempest
2004-07-23 00:36:12 UTC
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Post by Retarded Death Row Inmates 4 Bush
Post by unknown
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job."
Someone else believes God speaks/works through them....Osama bin Laden.
Charley Manson also thought that.

So did Hitler.
--
"Ignorance is an evil weed, which dictators may cultivate among their
dupes, but which no democracy can afford among its citizens."
- William H. Beveridge, 1944
cLIeNUX user
2004-07-23 03:02:06 UTC
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Post by Retarded Death Row Inmates 4 Bush
Post by unknown
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job."
Someone else believes God speaks/works through them....Osama bin Laden.
Is Bush going to issue a fatwah after the commission report?


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Mamamia
2004-07-22 10:34:42 UTC
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Post by unknown
The war god meets with Amish,
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job."
http://lancasteronline.com/pages/news/local/4/7564
In our FWIW column, I am quite sure that Bin Laden says exactly the same
thing. One has to wonder whether either one of them is correct.

But in my mind, when ANYbody says that God speaks through him, it's a
big red flag waving like mad, shouting, "Beware, BEware, BEWARE!!!!"
--
Mamamia
========
"When did you realize that you were God?"
"While praying. I realized I was talking to myself."
--Peter O'Toole, playing the 14th Earl of Gurney,
who has the delusion that he is Jesus Christ in "The Ruling Class"
Jorge
2004-07-22 14:57:50 UTC
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Post by unknown
The war god meets with Amish,
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job."
http://lancasteronline.com/pages/news/local/4/7564
Just another verification that W thinks that every idea that pops out
of his ass is a message from God. But disconcerting nonetheless.
Jake WK
2004-07-22 13:47:21 UTC
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Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about what
MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Ah.....another wheeze from another loser in the history books. Go sit
over there on Group W bench next to Senator McCarthy.



Jake
Jim Alder
2004-07-22 14:31:59 UTC
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Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about what
MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Ah.....another wheeze from another loser in the history books. Go sit
over there on Group W bench next to Senator McCarthy.
You didn't answer my question. Just a stupid insult from another
brainless leftwihng myrmidon.
--
"Don't blame me! I voted for the _green_ M&M!" - H. Simpson
Jake WK
2004-07-22 15:30:23 UTC
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Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about what
MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Ah.....another wheeze from another loser in the history books. Go sit
over there on Group W bench next to Senator McCarthy.
You didn't answer my question. Just a stupid insult from another
brainless leftwihng myrmidon.
" leftwihng myrmidon"?

Look, you can whine and spin it any way you like. But Ronstadt and
Moore have indeed been invited back to the Aladdin by the soon-to-be
new owners of the Aladdin. It's in print and a matter of public
record.

Read it and weep.

Jake
Jim Alder
2004-07-22 16:33:33 UTC
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Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about
what MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Ah.....another wheeze from another loser in the history books. Go
sit over there on Group W bench next to Senator McCarthy.
You didn't answer my question. Just a stupid insult from another
brainless leftwihng myrmidon.
" leftwihng myrmidon"?
Yep. Look it up. You do know a typo when you see one, don't you,
leftwing myrmidon?
Post by Jake WK
Look, you can whine and spin it any way you like.
Thanks. But I'm not on the left, so I wouldn't know how to do either.
--
"Don't blame me! I voted for the _green_ M&M!" - H. Simpson
Jake WK
2004-07-22 17:07:54 UTC
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Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about
what MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Ah.....another wheeze from another loser in the history books. Go
sit over there on Group W bench next to Senator McCarthy.
You didn't answer my question. Just a stupid insult from another
brainless leftwihng myrmidon.
" leftwihng myrmidon"?
Yep. Look it up. You do know a typo when you see one, don't you,
leftwing myrmidon?
Oh, I know full well what a myrmidon is. It's that "lefwihng" thing
that eludes us....
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Look, you can whine and spin it any way you like.
Thanks. But I'm not on the left, so I wouldn't know how to do either.
In other words, you have no comeback for the fact that Ronstadt and
Moore were indeed invited by the soon-to-be new owners...so this is
the best you can do. And, yes, you were doing your pitiful best to
spin it as if that weren't true. Pitiful indeed.


Jake
Jim Alder
2004-07-22 19:15:58 UTC
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Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about
what MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Ah.....another wheeze from another loser in the history books. Go
sit over there on Group W bench next to Senator McCarthy.
You didn't answer my question. Just a stupid insult from another
brainless leftwihng myrmidon.
" leftwihng myrmidon"?
Yep. Look it up. You do know a typo when you see one, don't you,
leftwing myrmidon?
Oh, I know full well what a myrmidon is. It's that "lefwihng" thing
that eludes us....
Yeah, I guess that kind of thing can be really confusing IF YOUR BRAIN'S
THE SIZE OF A WALNUT!
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Look, you can whine and spin it any way you like.
Thanks. But I'm not on the left, so I wouldn't know how to do either.
In other words, you have no comeback for the fact that Ronstadt and
Moore were indeed invited by the soon-to-be new owners...so this is
the best you can do. And, yes, you were doing your pitiful best to
spin it as if that weren't true. Pitiful indeed.
I need a comeback for THAT lame attempt at redemption? The owner throws
her out and the maybe future owner says they can come back IF he buys it
and IF he passes Gambling Commission muster? Now THAT is pitiful spin.
--
"Don't blame me! I voted for the _green_ M&M!" - H. Simpson
Adam Albright
2004-07-22 20:30:41 UTC
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Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about
what MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Ah.....another wheeze from another loser in the history books. Go
sit over there on Group W bench next to Senator McCarthy.
You didn't answer my question. Just a stupid insult from another
brainless leftwihng myrmidon.
" leftwihng myrmidon"?
Yep. Look it up. You do know a typo when you see one, don't you,
leftwing myrmidon?
Oh, I know full well what a myrmidon is. It's that "lefwihng" thing
that eludes us....
Yeah, I guess that kind of thing can be really confusing IF YOUR BRAIN'S
THE SIZE OF A WALNUT!
That a boy Jimmy jerk-off... dance all around the issue or avoid it
completely. Maybe then nobody will notice what a damn fool you and
other right wing assholes always are.

Rondtadt not only got a huge boost from the stupid unfounded smear
attack coming from right wing numnuts like you, you fired up the
entire entertainment industry which of course will rally around one of
their own. Now watch everyone from movie stars to Jay Leno take pot
shots at right wing fuckwits left and right.

Let the fun begin. Be careful what you wish for, you just may get it.

ROTFLMAO!
Art Vandolay
2004-07-22 22:15:14 UTC
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Post by Adam Albright
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about
what MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Ah.....another wheeze from another loser in the history books. Go
sit over there on Group W bench next to Senator McCarthy.
You didn't answer my question. Just a stupid insult from another
brainless leftwihng myrmidon.
" leftwihng myrmidon"?
Yep. Look it up. You do know a typo when you see one, don't you,
leftwing myrmidon?
Oh, I know full well what a myrmidon is. It's that "lefwihng" thing
that eludes us....
Yeah, I guess that kind of thing can be really confusing IF YOUR BRAIN'S
THE SIZE OF A WALNUT!
That a boy Jimmy jerk-off... dance all around the issue or avoid it
completely. Maybe then nobody will notice what a damn fool you and
other right wing assholes always are.
Rondtadt not only got a huge boost from the stupid unfounded smear
attack coming from right wing numnuts like you, you fired up the
entire entertainment industry which of course will rally around one of
their own. Now watch everyone from movie stars to Jay Leno take pot
shots at right wing fuckwits left and right.
Let the fun begin. Be careful what you wish for, you just may get it.
ROTFLMAO!
Was that Linda Ronstadt who was kicked out of the Aladdin Hotel and Casino
in Las Vegas on Saturday night, or was it Pete Rose. They said it was
Linda ... but look at the pictures
Jim Alder
2004-07-22 22:30:23 UTC
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Post by Art Vandolay
Post by Adam Albright
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:31:59 -0000, Jim Alder
Post by Jim Alder
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 04:54:26 -0000, Jim Alder
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel
yet?
How
Post by Adam Albright
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jim Alder
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story
about what MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Ah.....another wheeze from another loser in the history books.
Go sit over there on Group W bench next to Senator McCarthy.
You didn't answer my question. Just a stupid insult from
another brainless leftwihng myrmidon.
" leftwihng myrmidon"?
Yep. Look it up. You do know a typo when you see one, don't you,
leftwing myrmidon?
Oh, I know full well what a myrmidon is. It's that "lefwihng"
thing that eludes us....
Yeah, I guess that kind of thing can be really confusing IF YOUR
BRAIN'S THE SIZE OF A WALNUT!
That a boy
Fuck off, punk. Defending a typo flame. That's almost low for you. But
then, nothing really is too low for a punk like you, is it, Not2bright?
Hard to believe, but I do think you're actually getting stupider since I
plonked you. I wouldn't have thought that possible without actually seeing
drool.
Post by Art Vandolay
Post by Adam Albright
Rondtadt not only got a huge boost from the stupid unfounded smear
attack coming from right wing numnuts like you, you fired up the
entire entertainment industry which of course will rally around one of
their own. Now watch everyone from movie stars to Jay Leno take pot
shots at right wing fuckwits left and right.
Let the fun begin. Be careful what you wish for, you just may get it.
ROTFLMAO!
Was that Linda Ronstadt who was kicked out of the Aladdin Hotel and
Casino in Las Vegas on Saturday night, or was it Pete Rose. They said
it was Linda ... but look at the pictures
Hey, she's there to sing, not for a swimsuit competition (or a political
rally, it would seem). Besides, if you want an opinion on the
attractiveness of a woman, you don't want to ask Not2bright. Women scare
him. His mommy told him they have teeth "down there."
--
"Don't blame me! I voted for the _green_ M&M!" - H. Simpson
Tempest
2004-07-22 23:46:56 UTC
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Post by Jim Alder
Post by Adam Albright
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet?
How
Post by Adam Albright
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about
what MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Ah.....another wheeze from another loser in the history books. Go
sit over there on Group W bench next to Senator McCarthy.
You didn't answer my question. Just a stupid insult from another
brainless leftwihng myrmidon.
" leftwihng myrmidon"?
Yep. Look it up. You do know a typo when you see one, don't you,
leftwing myrmidon?
Oh, I know full well what a myrmidon is. It's that "lefwihng" thing
that eludes us....
Yeah, I guess that kind of thing can be really confusing IF YOUR
BRAIN'S
Post by Adam Albright
Post by Jim Alder
THE SIZE OF A WALNUT!
That a boy Jimmy jerk-off... dance all around the issue or avoid it
completely. Maybe then nobody will notice what a damn fool you and
other right wing assholes always are.
Rondtadt not only got a huge boost from the stupid unfounded smear
attack coming from right wing numnuts like you, you fired up the
entire entertainment industry which of course will rally around one of
their own. Now watch everyone from movie stars to Jay Leno take pot
shots at right wing fuckwits left and right.
Let the fun begin. Be careful what you wish for, you just may get it.
ROTFLMAO!
Was that Linda Ronstadt who was kicked out of the Aladdin Hotel and Casino
in Las Vegas on Saturday night, or was it Pete Rose. They said it was
Linda ... but look at the pictures
And you rightards have the nerve to claim Liberals are full of hate.

Fucking hypocrites, every last one of you shitbags.
--
"Ignorance is an evil weed, which dictators may cultivate among their
dupes, but which no democracy can afford among its citizens."
- William H. Beveridge, 1944
Harry
2004-07-23 17:34:02 UTC
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Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about what
MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Ah.....another wheeze from another loser in the history books. Go sit
over there on Group W bench next to Senator McCarthy.
You didn't answer my question. Just a stupid insult from another
brainless leftwihng myrmidon.
" leftwihng myrmidon"?
Look, you can whine and spin it any way you like. But Ronstadt and
Moore have indeed been invited back to the Aladdin by the soon-to-be
new owners of the Aladdin. It's in print and a matter of public
record.
Read it and weep.
Jake
And Linda Ronstadt is an extremely accomplished singer, responsible
for bringing back a lot of historically and musically interesting
Spanish songs of the SW. And Michael Moore won the Palm d'Or and
Academy Award.

Unlike "Jake", above, who believes, for some reason, that he's made an
argument when in fact he's made a comment, a value judgement, on
something he has absolutely no possibility of knowing anything about.
This is an improvement for him, since as a dittohead we expect him to
lie all the time. And we appreciate his restraint in NOT posing a
tenditious argument so we don't have to waste our time answering him.
Why he then insists on an "answer" to his unsubstantiated and personal
opinion (which I also believe to be risible) is beyond me.
natch
2004-07-22 17:05:05 UTC
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Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about what
MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Post by Jake WK
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=100
0582932
the idea of it happening pisses you off doesnt it?
Jake WK
2004-07-22 17:27:51 UTC
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Post by natch
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about what
MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Post by Jake WK
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=100
0582932
the idea of it happening pisses you off doesnt it?
You know it does. Apparently, denial is more than a river in Africa
to Jimmy Boy.

Jake
Mr. Video
2004-07-22 22:09:59 UTC
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Post by Jake WK
Post by natch
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about what
MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Post by Jake WK
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=100
0582932
the idea of it happening pisses you off doesnt it?
You know it does. Apparently, denial is more than a river in Africa
to Jimmy Boy.
Jake
HAHAHHHA! It's great to see that worthless fuck Alder get smacked down
yet AGAIN. The guy cannot carry on an argument based on facts thrown
in his face, so he resorts to insults; the same bullshit he accuses
those he argues with of doing!

Alder and Steve Canyon are great examples of dumbass reich-wing cons
that constantly get smacked down.

I can't wait to read their response to this post, as you know they'll
surely respond to it!
Jim Alder
2004-07-22 22:24:54 UTC
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Post by Mr. Video
Post by Jake WK
Post by natch
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about
what MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Post by Jake WK
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_
id=100 0582932
the idea of it happening pisses you off doesnt it?
You know it does. Apparently, denial is more than a river in Africa
to Jimmy Boy.
Jake
HAHAHHHA! It's great to see that worthless fuck Alder get smacked down
yet AGAIN. The guy cannot carry on an argument based on facts thrown
in his face so he resorts to insults; the same bullshit he accuses
those he argues with of doing!
You see a fact somewhere in their 'argument, so ya? Whatsammatter, Vid?
Have I trounced you one too many times and now you're joining the penut
gallery to cheer on the other lame punks on here that can't argue their way
out of a paper bag?
Post by Mr. Video
Alder and Steve Canyon are great examples of dumbass reich-wing cons
that constantly get smacked down.
Oh, you must be one of those guys! The ones that run away and yell over
their shoulder that they 'smacked down' someone? I think that's so sad, yet
strangely hilarious.
Post by Mr. Video
I can't wait to read their response to this post, as you know they'll
surely respond to it!
Oh, no. I'd be too a-scared to respond to a big tough troll like you!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
--
"Don't blame me! I voted for the _green_ M&M!" - H. Simpson
Jim Alder
2004-07-22 19:22:36 UTC
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Post by natch
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about
what MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Post by Jake WK
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=
100 0582932
the idea of it happening pisses you off doesnt it?
Actually I LIKE Linda Ronstadt. She has one of the sweetest voices
around. I'm actually surprised that she got such a strong negative reaction
from the mere mention of Moore's name. I expect she was, too.

See, I'm not a neolibbie like you. I don't HATE the left like you hate
the Right. I don't get the giggling shits every time someone left of center
gets trouble or grief like you do in the opposite situation. Nor do I get
'pissed off' when something positive happens to them. Now I might give off
a smile if something bad happened to you, but not because you're a
neolibbie. It's just because you're an asshole.
--
"Don't blame me! I voted for the _green_ M&M!" - H. Simpson
Jake WK
2004-07-23 00:40:44 UTC
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Post by Jim Alder
Post by natch
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about
what MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Post by Jake WK
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=
100 0582932
the idea of it happening pisses you off doesnt it?
Actually I LIKE Linda Ronstadt. She has one of the sweetest voices
around. I'm actually surprised that she got such a strong negative reaction
from the mere mention of Moore's name. I expect she was, too.
Those are your people who reacted that way....the people you are in
bed with politically.
Post by Jim Alder
I don't get the giggling shits every time someone left of center
gets trouble or grief like you do in the opposite situation.
There was a time when I felt significantly less anger toward arch
conservatives in general and Republicans in particular. But then,
there used to be a different Republican Party---and there were plenty
of respectable, reasoning Republicans who I respected who truly tried
to honor the ideals upon which this country was founded---who did not
sneer at the principles held by the framers of the Constitution.
There were those from Goldwater to Bob Dole to John McCain who had my
sincere respect as statesmen, even when I disagreed with them. And
that was not as often as you might think.

I've often said that I'm conservative about a lot of things, liberal
about some things----and libertarian about most things. I think
everybody should learn to just leave each other alone and mind their
own business unless someone else is being directly harmed.

But there are not many I respect on that side of the aisle any
longer----the GOP has lost its soul.

If there is a lot of unusually high venom built up toward the right
wingnuts these days---and there is----it's because of people just like
those who overreacted that way to Ronstadt's dedication. They've
brought it on themselves through increasingly kneejerk, reactionary
behavior combined with a load of bigotry and intolerance on many
levels. And those are your people. People who would try to destroy
someone economically (and many seem to wish to destroy them physically
as well) just because that individual voiced an opinion publicly that
differed from theirs or that criticized the sitting administration.


Jake
Jim Alder
2004-07-23 02:12:26 UTC
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Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by natch
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about
what MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Post by Jake WK
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_i
d= 100 0582932
the idea of it happening pisses you off doesnt it?
Actually I LIKE Linda Ronstadt. She has one of the sweetest voices
around. I'm actually surprised that she got such a strong negative
reaction from the mere mention of Moore's name. I expect she was, too.
Those are your people who reacted that way....the people you are in
bed with politically.
Who am I. Moses!? Why don't you try the insecurity of NOT having the mob
think for you for a minute, you partisan myrmidon?
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
I don't get the giggling shits every time someone left of center
gets trouble or grief like you do in the opposite situation.
There was a time when I felt significantly less anger toward arch
conservatives in general and Republicans in particular.
But then they beat Gore in 2000 and you went nuts like so many other
liberals? Don't feel too bad, It happened a lot.
Post by Jake WK
But then,
there used to be a different Republican Party---and there were plenty
of respectable, reasoning Republicans who I respected who truly tried
to honor the ideals upon which this country was founded---who did not
sneer at the principles held by the framers of the Constitution.
There were those from Goldwater to Bob Dole to John McCain who had my
sincere respect as statesmen, even when I disagreed with them. And
that was not as often as you might think.
I've often said that I'm conservative about a lot of things, liberal
about some things----and libertarian about most things. I think
everybody should learn to just leave each other alone and mind their
own business unless someone else is being directly harmed.
But there are not many I respect on that side of the aisle any
longer----the GOP has lost its soul.
If there is a lot of unusually high venom built up toward the right
wingnuts these days---and there is----it's because of people just like
those who overreacted that way to Ronstadt's dedication. They've
brought it on themselves through increasingly kneejerk, reactionary
behavior combined with a load of bigotry and intolerance on many
levels. And those are your people. People who would try to destroy
someone economically (and many seem to wish to destroy them physically
as well) just because that individual voiced an opinion publicly that
differed from theirs or that criticized the sitting administration.
Yeah, I'm tired of hearing how 'reasonable' some people are, right
before they say they wish a Republican would get cancer and die.
--
"Don't blame me! I voted for the _green_ M&M!" - H. Simpson
Adam Albright
2004-07-23 03:13:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by natch
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about
what MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Post by Jake WK
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_i
d= 100 0582932
the idea of it happening pisses you off doesnt it?
Actually I LIKE Linda Ronstadt. She has one of the sweetest voices
around. I'm actually surprised that she got such a strong negative
reaction from the mere mention of Moore's name. I expect she was, too.
Those are your people who reacted that way....the people you are in
bed with politically.
Who am I. Moses!? Why don't you try the insecurity of NOT having the mob
think for you for a minute, you partisan myrmidon?
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
I don't get the giggling shits every time someone left of center
gets trouble or grief like you do in the opposite situation.
There was a time when I felt significantly less anger toward arch
conservatives in general and Republicans in particular.
But then they beat Gore in 2000 and you went nuts like so many other
liberals? Don't feel too bad, It happened a lot.
Gore Won. Bush stole the election. Everyone knows it. That's the
reason for the anger and why Bush don't have a snowball's chance in
hell of winning. He a has a one in a hundred chance of stealing his
second election. If he does, the 2nd American Revolution starts 11/3.
Jake WK
2004-07-23 15:51:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by natch
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about
what MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Post by Jake WK
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_i
d= 100 0582932
the idea of it happening pisses you off doesnt it?
Actually I LIKE Linda Ronstadt. She has one of the sweetest voices
around. I'm actually surprised that she got such a strong negative
reaction from the mere mention of Moore's name. I expect she was, too.
Those are your people who reacted that way....the people you are in
bed with politically.
Who am I. Moses!? Why don't you try the insecurity of NOT having the mob
think for you for a minute, you partisan myrmidon?
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
I don't get the giggling shits every time someone left of center
gets trouble or grief like you do in the opposite situation.
There was a time when I felt significantly less anger toward arch
conservatives in general and Republicans in particular.
But then they beat Gore in 2000 and you went nuts like so many other
liberals? Don't feel too bad, It happened a lot.
Post by Jake WK
But then,
there used to be a different Republican Party---and there were plenty
of respectable, reasoning Republicans who I respected who truly tried
to honor the ideals upon which this country was founded---who did not
sneer at the principles held by the framers of the Constitution.
There were those from Goldwater to Bob Dole to John McCain who had my
sincere respect as statesmen, even when I disagreed with them. And
that was not as often as you might think.
I've often said that I'm conservative about a lot of things, liberal
about some things----and libertarian about most things. I think
everybody should learn to just leave each other alone and mind their
own business unless someone else is being directly harmed.
But there are not many I respect on that side of the aisle any
longer----the GOP has lost its soul.
If there is a lot of unusually high venom built up toward the right
wingnuts these days---and there is----it's because of people just like
those who overreacted that way to Ronstadt's dedication. They've
brought it on themselves through increasingly kneejerk, reactionary
behavior combined with a load of bigotry and intolerance on many
levels. And those are your people. People who would try to destroy
someone economically (and many seem to wish to destroy them physically
as well) just because that individual voiced an opinion publicly that
differed from theirs or that criticized the sitting administration.
Yeah, I'm tired of hearing how 'reasonable' some people are, right
before they say they wish a Republican would get cancer and die.
Don't put words in my mouth. I've never said anything remotely like
that and most folks I know who are like minded wouldn't dream of
saying such a thing. In fact, I hear relatively few talk like that on
this side of the political aisle----in contrast to an awful lot of
rabid Republicans out there, stirred up by a lot of hateful talk show
hosts. Those who speak like that in your ranks are now legion.

The stuff said about The Dixie Chicks, for instance, was some of the
most vile imaginable by an overwhelming number of your compadres; the
same kind who would go postal because of Ronstadt's mere dedication,
to the point of throwing drinks and tearing down posters at the
Aladdin.

Jake
Jim Alder
2004-07-23 16:44:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by natch
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story
about what MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Post by Jake WK
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content
_i d= 100 0582932
the idea of it happening pisses you off doesnt it?
Actually I LIKE Linda Ronstadt. She has one of the sweetest voices
around. I'm actually surprised that she got such a strong negative
reaction from the mere mention of Moore's name. I expect she was, too.
Those are your people who reacted that way....the people you are in
bed with politically.
Who am I. Moses!? Why don't you try the insecurity of NOT having the mob
think for you for a minute, you partisan myrmidon?
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
I don't get the giggling shits every time someone left of center
gets trouble or grief like you do in the opposite situation.
There was a time when I felt significantly less anger toward arch
conservatives in general and Republicans in particular.
But then they beat Gore in 2000 and you went nuts like so many other
liberals? Don't feel too bad, It happened a lot.
Post by Jake WK
But then,
there used to be a different Republican Party---and there were plenty
of respectable, reasoning Republicans who I respected who truly tried
to honor the ideals upon which this country was founded---who did not
sneer at the principles held by the framers of the Constitution.
There were those from Goldwater to Bob Dole to John McCain who had my
sincere respect as statesmen, even when I disagreed with them. And
that was not as often as you might think.
I've often said that I'm conservative about a lot of things, liberal
about some things----and libertarian about most things. I think
everybody should learn to just leave each other alone and mind their
own business unless someone else is being directly harmed.
But there are not many I respect on that side of the aisle any
longer----the GOP has lost its soul.
If there is a lot of unusually high venom built up toward the right
wingnuts these days---and there is----it's because of people just
like those who overreacted that way to Ronstadt's dedication.
They've brought it on themselves through increasingly kneejerk,
reactionary behavior combined with a load of bigotry and intolerance
on many levels. And those are your people. People who would try to
destroy someone economically (and many seem to wish to destroy them
physically as well) just because that individual voiced an opinion
publicly that differed from theirs or that criticized the sitting
administration.
Yeah, I'm tired of hearing how 'reasonable' some people are, right
before they say they wish a Republican would get cancer and die.
Don't put words in my mouth. I've never said anything remotely like
that and most folks I know who are like minded wouldn't dream of
saying such a thing.
"Most like-minded folks"? That's quite a caveat. I didn't say MOST
liberals or even you. I said I was tired of the ones that did. Liberals
have lost credibilitiy when describing their sterling qualities and values.
Post by Jake WK
In fact, I hear relatively few talk like that on
this side of the political aisle----in contrast to an awful lot of
rabid Republicans out there, stirred up by a lot of hateful talk show
hosts. Those who speak like that in your ranks are now legion.
==========
From: Leland Milton Goldblatt PhD (***@netscape.net)
Subject: Re: How NPR Made Me a Conservative
Newsgroups: alt.fan.julia-roberts, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.gw-bush, alt.politics.liberalism,
alt.politics.republicans, alt.radio.talk
Date: 2004-04-08 19:28:25 PST

Michael Savage is a pig!! I hope he dies a long, lingering and painful
death from cancer of the vocal chords.
Michael Savage is a pig!! I hope he dies a long, lingering and painful
death from cancer of the vocal chords.
(Repeated numerous times)
============
From: mhirtes (***@radiks.net)
Subject: Kharma keeps kicking Linda Tripp in the BOO-TAY!
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush, talk.politics.misc, alt.politics,
alt.politics.democrats.d, alt.politics.liberalism,
alt.politics.usa.republican, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Date: 2002-03-01 18:41:02 PST

Reporting a story on Linda Tripp and her breast cancer.

"Persons wishing to express support for Mrs. Tripp may contact the Linda
Tripp Defense Fund web site at [URl deliberately snipped to help make
sure the backstabbing old cunt dies a twitching, ghastly death i total
poverty]."
=======
From: ElNorman (***@wi.rr.com)
Subject: Rush......Please Die Of Cancer.....Please!!!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Date: 2003-10-13 16:01:47 PST


I hate Rush Limbaugh. I hope the over-weight fucker dies a painful cancer
death.

Rush Limbaugh, the drooling fat fuck hypocrite dope addict......die soon.
......but slowly....please...so I can piss on your grave after drinking
cheap beer.
============
The comments from Mike Hudson, owner of the Niagara Falls Reporter,
first came to light after the reader contacted WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg
and shared Hudson's e-mail response to a complaint about a column by
another writer.
In his vitriolic reply, Hudson reportedly wrote, "I hope that [Limbaugh]
gets over his addiction and dies from cancer of the [testicles]."
===========
From: TED TURNER DECLARES BUSH WON
Subject: Re: Fat Hatemonger goes totally deaf!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.impeach.bush, alt.politics,
alt.politics.bush, alt.politics.republican, alt.true-crime
Date: 2001-11-25 09:44:38 PST

I Cant wait till you or your kids gets cancer and dies. Ill be laughing my
ass off ! LOL !
==========

Enough? Now, those are just the ones that wished cancer and death.
Google doesn't have a search engine just for crazy hatemongering in
general.
Post by Jake WK
The stuff said about The Dixie Chicks, for instance, was some of the
most vile imaginable by an overwhelming number of your compadres;
Worse than you just read?
Post by Jake WK
...the
same kind who would go postal because of Ronstadt's mere dedication,
to the point of throwing drinks and tearing down posters at the
Aladdin.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.
--
"Don't blame me! I voted for the _green_ M&M!" - H. Simpson
Jake WK
2004-07-23 21:52:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
In fact, I hear relatively few talk like that on
this side of the political aisle----in contrast to an awful lot of
rabid Republicans out there, stirred up by a lot of hateful talk show
hosts. Those who speak like that in your ranks are now legion.
==========
Subject: Re: How NPR Made Me a Conservative
Newsgroups: alt.fan.julia-roberts, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.gw-bush, alt.politics.liberalism,
alt.politics.republicans, alt.radio.talk
Date: 2004-04-08 19:28:25 PST
Michael Savage is a pig!! I hope he dies a long, lingering and painful
death from cancer of the vocal chords.
Michael Savage is a pig!! I hope he dies a long, lingering and painful
death from cancer of the vocal chords.
From: traveler (***@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Google's Lazy Liberal Is Censoring My Posts Again
View: Complete Thread (27 articles)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.republicans
Date: 2004-06-21 23:20:19 PST


I use a computer a hell of a lot better than you use the English
language, you Generation X pussyboy. Only a limpwristed, effeminate
fairy like you would say "f*cking" rather than "fucking." Why don't
you grow a pair, choirboy? Did your mommy put soap in your mouth last
week for talking dirty? Did you get your hand slapped? Did your
daddy take the belt to you again? Fucking whiner. What a pussy!

Listen to the entry level upstart. Oooo, he's got a job. Give him
the key to the city. Hey, cocksuck! You didn't finish cleaning up
after my dog. There's a big creamy pile over in the corner of the
back yard. Get on over there and clean it up -- with your tongue.
Nah, don't save it for later when you're hungry again. Eat it all up
now.

Get your dick out of your mother's mouth, your mouth off your father's
asshole, and your boyfriend's dick out of YOUR asshole. Once you've
got all that accomplished, go hang yourself. We'll all clap and
cheer, ya pathetic waste of space. Why couldn't it have been YOU
whose head got chopped off? Nobody would complain about
Post by Jim Alder
============
Subject: Kharma keeps kicking Linda Tripp in the BOO-TAY!
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush, talk.politics.misc, alt.politics,
alt.politics.democrats.d, alt.politics.liberalism,
alt.politics.usa.republican, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Date: 2002-03-01 18:41:02 PST
Reporting a story on Linda Tripp and her breast cancer.
"Persons wishing to express support for Mrs. Tripp may contact the Linda
Tripp Defense Fund web site at [URl deliberately snipped to help make
sure the backstabbing old cunt dies a twitching, ghastly death i total
poverty]."
"OH, YOU'RE ONE OF THE SODOMITES. YOU SHOULD ONLY GET AIDS AND DIE,
YOU PIG. HOW'S THAT? WHY DON'T YOU SEE IF YOU CAN SUE ME, YOU PIG. YOU
GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN PUT ME DOWN, YOU PIECE OF GARBAGE? YOU
HAVE GOT NOTHING TO DO TODAY, GO EAT A SAUSAGE AND CHOKE ON IT."
-Michael Savage
Post by Jim Alder
=======
Subject: Rush......Please Die Of Cancer.....Please!!!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Date: 2003-10-13 16:01:47 PST
I hate Rush Limbaugh. I hope the over-weight fucker dies a painful cancer
death.
Rush Limbaugh, the drooling fat fuck hypocrite dope addict......die soon.
......but slowly....please...so I can piss on your grave after drinking
cheap beer.
============
From: whizbang (***@aol.com)
Subject: Re: PRO-FAGGOT POLICY DIVIDES BIG BROTHERS/BIG SISTERS
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush, alt.politics.usa.republican,
alt.politics.republican
Date: 2002-10-30 03:58:08 PST
Post by Jim Alder
You think by giving 'faggots'
a few 'special rights' (which in all reality they want the same rights
heterosexuals have)
What, you mean like the imagined "right" to have public perverted sex
in restrooms and "bathhouses?" God, is that disgusting, or what?
That's the way you slimy pervs got the Aids epidemic started in this
country. We were hoping it would kill you all off, but so far, no
such luck. I wonder how many diseases you have or have had in the last
ten years? You must be literally crawling with slimy little
pathogens.


Whoa, how original, shitforbrains. Run out of your own material, did
you? Hey, don't you have a date or something, you know, at the public
restroom? Hurry quick, you'll be late. There are a number of
diseased, pustule-covered dicks just waiting for you to suck. After
you swallow their bloody cum, they can piss all over you. It's bound
to be fag heaven, so you better run. I'll bet they'll even shit on
you if you ask nicely. Do the world a favor. Next time you go to
sleep, think about not waking up.
Post by Jim Alder
The comments from Mike Hudson, owner of the Niagara Falls Reporter,
first came to light after the reader contacted WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg
and shared Hudson's e-mail response to a complaint about a column by
another writer.
In his vitriolic reply, Hudson reportedly wrote, "I hope that [Limbaugh]
gets over his addiction and dies from cancer of the [testicles]."
===========
From: creosote (***@aol.com)
Subject: Pinko Swine
Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.republicans,
soc.culture.israel, soc.culture.iraq
Date: 2004-05-23 21:21:16 PST


....Put every last liberal schweinhund up against the wall and
cleanse the planet of their cancerous villainy. This is an idea whose
time has come. End the insidious plague of creeping
liberalism/socialism/communism. Then and only then can we begin to
put a human face on capitalism.

Shoot the next person who utters some
pc remark. You've gotta gun in your car or under your arm. Use it!
If some faggot calls you a homophobe, shoot him right between the
eyes. If some feminist cunt calls you a sexist pig, run her ass down.
If some minority insists that Affirmative Action be maintained, get
out your flame thrower and put it to use. Only when these scum are
dealt with using the same currency they regularly deal in will things
actually begin to improve.
Post by Jim Alder
From: TED TURNER DECLARES BUSH WON
Subject: Re: Fat Hatemonger goes totally deaf!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.impeach.bush, alt.politics,
alt.politics.bush, alt.politics.republican, alt.true-crime
Date: 2001-11-25 09:44:38 PST
I Cant wait till you or your kids gets cancer and dies. Ill be laughing my
ass off ! LOL !
From: Ronin Art (***@mindspring.com)
Subject: Re: Rhymes with 'Crap'
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white, alt.politics.republican,
miami.general, soc.culture.haiti, soc.culture.israel
Date: 2002-11-17 19:49:12 PST


Kiss my ass whigger and I hope you get robbed ,rapped and killed
by your niggers.But i bet you don`t fucking live in their neibogrhood
do you, hypocrit whigger,Go and live there so all your fake do good
ass gets a dose of reality and perhaps a nigger`s dick...perhaps
that`s why you love them so much, Dowg
Post by Jim Alder
==========
From: Dave Hazelwood (***@mailcity.com)
Subject: CHELSEA WHIPPED WITH BILL'S UGLY STICK ???
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush

This has nothing to do with Republican or Democrat or right wing
or left wing or deep or shallow.

It DOES have something to do with REPULSIVE however and
that is Chelsea's mug ! She is soooooo damn UGLY ! I imagine
that is exactly what Hillery's ass looks like !

So don't make this political. Keep it to UGLY. Is she or is she
not one of the most UGLY 20 year olds you ever saw ?

Do you think she is at all .... God forbid.....sexy ? All the
Viagra on earth wouldn't help me with that UGLY bitch.

She is right there in the League Of Uglies right beside Janet
Reno, Madeline Albright and all the other beautiful Clinton babes !
A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Damn they WERE all UGLY weren't they ? All his whores were
too a la Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky and
even that one he raped. All scags they are.

Chelsea follows right along in that same vein.

Hey look at that pic of her. Smear some think red lipstick
on those hummers she has and she would look exactly
like the kinda babe Slick solicits to suck his dick.
Post by Jim Alder
Enough? Now, those are just the ones that wished cancer and death.
Google doesn't have a search engine just for crazy hatemongering in
general.
Post by Jake WK
The stuff said about The Dixie Chicks, for instance, was some of the
most vile imaginable by an overwhelming number of your compadres;
Worse than you just read?
Well, uh....considering the fact that they got REAL DEATH THREATS made
directly to them, I would have to say "yes". It went far beyond
hyperbole to a bunch of other nutcases in a newsgroup.

From: snitraM ehT (***@duh.com)
Subject: JESUS SAYS DIXIE CHICKS ROT IN HELL!!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.old-time
Date: 2003-03-22 16:37:30 PST


HE TOLE ME SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

signed -
A pAtrioT
From: NKVD (***@hotmail.com)
Subject: Re: Bruce Springsteen: "Dixie Chicks are Getting a Raw
Deal..."
Newsgroups: soc.veterans, soc.history
Date: 2003-04-26 13:45:22 PST


Meanwhile... The Dixie Whores are just money-grubbing sluts who're
willing to knock their country when it's at war, willing to knock
their
Commander-in-Chief, and to knock the US troops while these
flimsy-brained floozies are overseas just so they could think that
they'd "sound 'cool'." Stupid cunts. Then they get on TV back in the
States and literally cry about the reaction to their idiocy as if they
have a right to free speech but the rest of us don't. Piss-ant
bitches.

..and to all these lower than whale-shit butt-wipes listed below who
prove that Liberalism is indeed a mental disease:

..fuck michael 'fat bastard' moore

..fuck the dixie 'witches'

..fuck susan 'saran-wrap'

..fuck her live-in gigolo tim robbins

..fuck ed 'asshole' asner

..fuck sean 'pencil-neck' penn

..& fuck everybody who thinks, looks, and stinks like them -- goddamn
son-of-a-bitching mother-fucking cock-suckers can all go straight to
hell

==========================
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
...the
same kind who would go postal because of Ronstadt's mere dedication,
to the point of throwing drinks and tearing down posters at the
Aladdin.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.
What a ridiculous cop out. These days, Vegas is just another family
vacationland like Disney World----filled with rank and file Americans.

So that comment has no meaning whatsoever.


Jake
Jim Alder
2004-07-24 00:51:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
In fact, I hear relatively few talk like that on
this side of the political aisle----in contrast to an awful lot of
rabid Republicans out there, stirred up by a lot of hateful talk show
hosts. Those who speak like that in your ranks are now legion.
==========
Subject: Re: How NPR Made Me a Conservative
Newsgroups: alt.fan.julia-roberts, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.gw-bush, alt.politics.liberalism,
alt.politics.republicans, alt.radio.talk
Date: 2004-04-08 19:28:25 PST
Michael Savage is a pig!! I hope he dies a long, lingering and painful
death from cancer of the vocal chords.
Michael Savage is a pig!! I hope he dies a long, lingering and painful
death from cancer of the vocal chords.
Subject: Re: Google's Lazy Liberal Is Censoring My Posts Again
View: Complete Thread (27 articles)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.republicans
Date: 2004-06-21 23:20:19 PST
I use a computer a hell of a lot better than you use the English
language, you Generation X pussyboy. Only a limpwristed, effeminate
fairy like you would say "f*cking" rather than "fucking." Why don't
you grow a pair, choirboy? Did your mommy put soap in your mouth last
week for talking dirty? Did you get your hand slapped? Did your
daddy take the belt to you again? Fucking whiner. What a pussy!
Listen to the entry level upstart. Oooo, he's got a job. Give him
the key to the city. Hey, cocksuck! You didn't finish cleaning up
after my dog. There's a big creamy pile over in the corner of the
back yard. Get on over there and clean it up -- with your tongue.
Nah, don't save it for later when you're hungry again. Eat it all up
now.
Get your dick out of your mother's mouth, your mouth off your father's
asshole, and your boyfriend's dick out of YOUR asshole. Once you've
got all that accomplished, go hang yourself. We'll all clap and
cheer, ya pathetic waste of space. Why couldn't it have been YOU
whose head got chopped off? Nobody would complain about
Post by Jim Alder
============
Subject: Kharma keeps kicking Linda Tripp in the BOO-TAY!
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush, talk.politics.misc, alt.politics,
alt.politics.democrats.d, alt.politics.liberalism,
alt.politics.usa.republican, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Date: 2002-03-01 18:41:02 PST
Reporting a story on Linda Tripp and her breast cancer.
"Persons wishing to express support for Mrs. Tripp may contact the
Linda Tripp Defense Fund web site at [URl deliberately snipped to help
make sure the backstabbing old cunt dies a twitching, ghastly death i
total poverty]."
"OH, YOU'RE ONE OF THE SODOMITES. YOU SHOULD ONLY GET AIDS AND DIE,
YOU PIG. HOW'S THAT? WHY DON'T YOU SEE IF YOU CAN SUE ME, YOU PIG. YOU
GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN PUT ME DOWN, YOU PIECE OF GARBAGE? YOU
HAVE GOT NOTHING TO DO TODAY, GO EAT A SAUSAGE AND CHOKE ON IT."
-Michael Savage
Post by Jim Alder
=======
Subject: Rush......Please Die Of Cancer.....Please!!!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Date: 2003-10-13 16:01:47 PST
I hate Rush Limbaugh. I hope the over-weight fucker dies a painful
cancer death.
Rush Limbaugh, the drooling fat fuck hypocrite dope addict......die
soon. ......but slowly....please...so I can piss on your grave after
drinking cheap beer.
============
Subject: Re: PRO-FAGGOT POLICY DIVIDES BIG BROTHERS/BIG SISTERS
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush, alt.politics.usa.republican,
alt.politics.republican
Date: 2002-10-30 03:58:08 PST
Post by Jim Alder
You think by giving 'faggots'
a few 'special rights' (which in all reality they want the same rights
heterosexuals have)
What, you mean like the imagined "right" to have public perverted sex
in restrooms and "bathhouses?" God, is that disgusting, or what?
That's the way you slimy pervs got the Aids epidemic started in this
country. We were hoping it would kill you all off, but so far, no
such luck. I wonder how many diseases you have or have had in the last
ten years? You must be literally crawling with slimy little
pathogens.
Whoa, how original, shitforbrains. Run out of your own material, did
you? Hey, don't you have a date or something, you know, at the public
restroom? Hurry quick, you'll be late. There are a number of
diseased, pustule-covered dicks just waiting for you to suck. After
you swallow their bloody cum, they can piss all over you. It's bound
to be fag heaven, so you better run. I'll bet they'll even shit on
you if you ask nicely. Do the world a favor. Next time you go to
sleep, think about not waking up.
Post by Jim Alder
The comments from Mike Hudson, owner of the Niagara Falls Reporter,
first came to light after the reader contacted WABC Radio's Steve
Malzberg and shared Hudson's e-mail response to a complaint about a
column by another writer.
In his vitriolic reply, Hudson reportedly wrote, "I hope that [Limbaugh]
gets over his addiction and dies from cancer of the [testicles]."
===========
Subject: Pinko Swine
Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.republicans,
soc.culture.israel, soc.culture.iraq
Date: 2004-05-23 21:21:16 PST
....Put every last liberal schweinhund up against the wall and
cleanse the planet of their cancerous villainy. This is an idea whose
time has come. End the insidious plague of creeping
liberalism/socialism/communism. Then and only then can we begin to
put a human face on capitalism.
Shoot the next person who utters some
pc remark. You've gotta gun in your car or under your arm. Use it!
If some faggot calls you a homophobe, shoot him right between the
eyes. If some feminist cunt calls you a sexist pig, run her ass down.
If some minority insists that Affirmative Action be maintained, get
out your flame thrower and put it to use. Only when these scum are
dealt with using the same currency they regularly deal in will things
actually begin to improve.
Post by Jim Alder
From: TED TURNER DECLARES BUSH WON
Subject: Re: Fat Hatemonger goes totally deaf!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.impeach.bush, alt.politics,
alt.politics.bush, alt.politics.republican, alt.true-crime
Date: 2001-11-25 09:44:38 PST
I Cant wait till you or your kids gets cancer and dies. Ill be
laughing my ass off ! LOL !
Subject: Re: Rhymes with 'Crap'
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white, alt.politics.republican,
miami.general, soc.culture.haiti, soc.culture.israel
Date: 2002-11-17 19:49:12 PST
Kiss my ass whigger and I hope you get robbed ,rapped and killed
by your niggers.But i bet you don`t fucking live in their neibogrhood
do you, hypocrit whigger,Go and live there so all your fake do good
ass gets a dose of reality and perhaps a nigger`s dick...perhaps
that`s why you love them so much, Dowg
Post by Jim Alder
==========
Subject: CHELSEA WHIPPED WITH BILL'S UGLY STICK ???
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
This has nothing to do with Republican or Democrat or right wing
or left wing or deep or shallow.
It DOES have something to do with REPULSIVE however and
that is Chelsea's mug ! She is soooooo damn UGLY ! I imagine
that is exactly what Hillery's ass looks like !
So don't make this political. Keep it to UGLY. Is she or is she
not one of the most UGLY 20 year olds you ever saw ?
Do you think she is at all .... God forbid.....sexy ? All the
Viagra on earth wouldn't help me with that UGLY bitch.
She is right there in the League Of Uglies right beside Janet
Reno, Madeline Albright and all the other beautiful Clinton babes !
A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Damn they WERE all UGLY weren't they ? All his whores were
too a la Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky and
even that one he raped. All scags they are.
Chelsea follows right along in that same vein.
Hey look at that pic of her. Smear some think red lipstick
on those hummers she has and she would look exactly
like the kinda babe Slick solicits to suck his dick.
Post by Jim Alder
Enough? Now, those are just the ones that wished cancer and death.
Google doesn't have a search engine just for crazy hatemongering in
general.
Post by Jake WK
The stuff said about The Dixie Chicks, for instance, was some of the
most vile imaginable by an overwhelming number of your compadres;
Worse than you just read?
Well, uh....considering the fact that they got REAL DEATH THREATS made
directly to them, I would have to say "yes". It went far beyond
hyperbole to a bunch of other nutcases in a newsgroup.
Oh, please. There are no 'real death threats' on this or any newsgroup
that I've seen. Punks on both wings are just that, punks. Your submissions
were mainly personal exchanges between shrieking harpies yelling at each
other impotently. It shows that they're frustrated children, and there are
plenty of them on both sides. I was talking about people wishing political
figures would die because they were on the opposite side, like your last
submission below. ('Rot in hell' is hardly on a par with 'get cancer and
die') Except he just said "fuck them" which in this newsgroup is actually
PG-13 language.
Post by Jake WK
Subject: JESUS SAYS DIXIE CHICKS ROT IN HELL!!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.old-time
Date: 2003-03-22 16:37:30 PST
HE TOLE ME SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
signed -
A pAtrioT
Subject: Re: Bruce Springsteen: "Dixie Chicks are Getting a Raw
Deal..."
Newsgroups: soc.veterans, soc.history
Date: 2003-04-26 13:45:22 PST
Meanwhile... The Dixie Whores are just money-grubbing sluts who're
willing to knock their country when it's at war, willing to knock
their
Commander-in-Chief, and to knock the US troops while these
flimsy-brained floozies are overseas just so they could think that
they'd "sound 'cool'." Stupid cunts. Then they get on TV back in the
States and literally cry about the reaction to their idiocy as if they
have a right to free speech but the rest of us don't. Piss-ant
bitches.
..and to all these lower than whale-shit butt-wipes listed below who
..fuck michael 'fat bastard' moore
..fuck the dixie 'witches'
..fuck susan 'saran-wrap'
..fuck her live-in gigolo tim robbins
..fuck ed 'asshole' asner
..fuck sean 'pencil-neck' penn
..& fuck everybody who thinks, looks, and stinks like them -- goddamn
son-of-a-bitching mother-fucking cock-suckers can all go straight to
hell
=================
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
...the
same kind who would go postal because of Ronstadt's mere dedication,
to the point of throwing drinks and tearing down posters at the
Aladdin.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.
What a ridiculous cop out. These days, Vegas is just another family
vacationland like Disney World----filled with rank and file Americans.
So that comment has no meaning whatsoever.
It wasn't meant to, really. I wasn't there.
--
"Don't blame me! I voted for the _green_ M&M!" - H. Simpson
Starkiller©
2004-07-23 19:10:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
Post by natch
Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about
what MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Post by Jake WK
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_i
d= 100 0582932
the idea of it happening pisses you off doesnt it?
Actually I LIKE Linda Ronstadt. She has one of the sweetest voices
around. I'm actually surprised that she got such a strong negative
reaction from the mere mention of Moore's name. I expect she was, too.
Those are your people who reacted that way....the people you are in
bed with politically.
Who am I. Moses!? Why don't you try the insecurity of NOT having the mob
think for you for a minute, you partisan myrmidon?
Post by Jake WK
Post by Jim Alder
I don't get the giggling shits every time someone left of center
gets trouble or grief like you do in the opposite situation.
There was a time when I felt significantly less anger toward arch
conservatives in general and Republicans in particular.
But then they beat Gore in 2000 and you went nuts like so many other
liberals? Don't feel too bad, It happened a lot.
Post by Jake WK
But then,
there used to be a different Republican Party---and there were plenty
of respectable, reasoning Republicans who I respected who truly tried
to honor the ideals upon which this country was founded---who did not
sneer at the principles held by the framers of the Constitution.
There were those from Goldwater to Bob Dole to John McCain who had my
sincere respect as statesmen, even when I disagreed with them. And
that was not as often as you might think.
I've often said that I'm conservative about a lot of things, liberal
about some things----and libertarian about most things. I think
everybody should learn to just leave each other alone and mind their
own business unless someone else is being directly harmed.
But there are not many I respect on that side of the aisle any
longer----the GOP has lost its soul.
If there is a lot of unusually high venom built up toward the right
wingnuts these days---and there is----it's because of people just like
those who overreacted that way to Ronstadt's dedication. They've
brought it on themselves through increasingly kneejerk, reactionary
behavior combined with a load of bigotry and intolerance on many
levels. And those are your people. People who would try to destroy
someone economically (and many seem to wish to destroy them physically
as well) just because that individual voiced an opinion publicly that
differed from theirs or that criticized the sitting administration.
Yeah, I'm tired of hearing how 'reasonable' some people are, right
before they say they wish a Republican would get cancer and die.
Don't put words in my mouth. I've never said anything remotely like
that and most folks I know who are like minded wouldn't dream of
saying such a thing. In fact, I hear relatively few talk like that on
this side of the political aisle----in contrast to an awful lot of
rabid Republicans out there, stirred up by a lot of hateful talk show
hosts. Those who speak like that in your ranks are now legion.
The stuff said about The Dixie Chicks, for instance, was some of the
most vile imaginable by an overwhelming number of your compadres; the
same kind who would go postal because of Ronstadt's mere dedication,
to the point of throwing drinks and tearing down posters at the
Aladdin.
Jake
Of course not. You folks only post threads like "Don't Kill Bush For
Me Do It For Jesus". But nothing hateful.
Ashland Henderson
2004-07-24 20:41:42 UTC
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Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about what
MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Post by Jake WK
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=100
0582932
Kind of like the Bush administration's view of how we would be
welcomed with rose petals in Iraq. But more likely, all things
considered.

Actually the whole action in Las Vegas was pretty dumb from all
concerned. Ronstadt should realize that people pay for the music,
not the political opinions, the hotel management should realize
that much of their liveliehood comes from the entertainment and
entertainers don't like having one of their own mistreated. It
doesn't really reflect well on anyone.
Tempest
2004-07-24 21:06:43 UTC
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Post by Jim Alder
Re: LINDA RONSTADT & MOORE Invited Back To The ALADDIN!
They're 'invited back' by people who don't own the hotel yet? How
exciting and premature of you. Next tiem you get a news story about what
MIGHT happen later, try thinking about baseball.
Addled once again proves what a clueless ignoramous he is.

The sale of the casino has been approved by Las Vegas officials and is
waiting a rubber stamp of the bankruptcy judge, who has already
indicated there is no reason not to approve the sale.

The new owners will be taking control over the casino in Sept.

Just following the news would have clued Addled.
--
"Ignorance is an evil weed, which dictators may cultivate among their
dupes, but which no democracy can afford among its citizens."
- William H. Beveridge, 1944
Smackenbush
2004-07-22 06:14:03 UTC
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Post by Jake WK
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000582932
===Ronstadt May Return To Vegas Stage ===
Thanks to negotiations today (July 21) between the Recording Artists
Coalition (RAC) and the prospective new owners of Las Vegas's Aladdin
Theater, expect to see RAC member Linda Ronstadt back at the venue
this fall -- with filmmaker Michael Moore on backup vocals.
The singer was the recipient of heavy-handed treatment Saturday (July
17) when she dedicated the Eagles' "Desperado" (co-written by RAC
co-founder Don Henley) to Moore, the director of the anti-President
Bush documentary, "Fahrenheit 9/11."
News reports said some in the audience booed, stormed out of the
theater and tore down posters. Reports also said Ronstadt was escorted
off the premises without being allowed to return to her dressing room,
which she has subsequently denied.
After a day of negotiations, the prospective new owner of the venue,
Robert Earl, Chairman and CEO of Planet Hollywood International, Inc.,
"We hope to be approved by the Nevada Gaming Commission to become the
new owners of the Aladdin Resort in Las Vegas as early as September 1,
2004. Upon the assumption of ownership, and with a new management team
in place, we would like to offer the use of the Theatre of Performing
Arts to Linda Ronstadt for a second concert and further to take
Michael Moore up on his offer to join her on stage to introduce her
and sing a song."
"We respect artists' creativity and support their rights to express
themselves," said Earl. "We were very sorry to hear about the
unfortunate circumstances of this past Saturday night and want to make
it clear that Planet Hollywood has never, in our 13 year history,
restricted any artists' right to free speech and we will continue with
that policy once we take ownership."
-- Bill Holland, Washington, D.C.
See, Freepers, things have a way of turning out right. And your spiteful
little revelry was Sooooo short lived. tsk tsk. Get used to it.
Smackenbush
2004-07-22 06:16:32 UTC
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Post by Jake WK
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000582932
===Ronstadt May Return To Vegas Stage ===
Thanks to negotiations today (July 21) between the Recording Artists
Coalition (RAC) and the prospective new owners of Las Vegas's Aladdin
Theater, expect to see RAC member Linda Ronstadt back at the venue
this fall -- with filmmaker Michael Moore on backup vocals.
The singer was the recipient of heavy-handed treatment Saturday (July
17) when she dedicated the Eagles' "Desperado" (co-written by RAC
co-founder Don Henley) to Moore, the director of the anti-President
Bush documentary, "Fahrenheit 9/11."
News reports said some in the audience booed, stormed out of the
theater and tore down posters. Reports also said Ronstadt was escorted
off the premises without being allowed to return to her dressing room,
which she has subsequently denied.
After a day of negotiations, the prospective new owner of the venue,
Robert Earl, Chairman and CEO of Planet Hollywood International, Inc.,
"We hope to be approved by the Nevada Gaming Commission to become the
new owners of the Aladdin Resort in Las Vegas as early as September 1,
2004. Upon the assumption of ownership, and with a new management team
in place, we would like to offer the use of the Theatre of Performing
Arts to Linda Ronstadt for a second concert and further to take
Michael Moore up on his offer to join her on stage to introduce her
and sing a song."
"We respect artists' creativity and support their rights to express
themselves," said Earl. "We were very sorry to hear about the
unfortunate circumstances of this past Saturday night and want to make
it clear that Planet Hollywood has never, in our 13 year history,
restricted any artists' right to free speech and we will continue with
that policy once we take ownership."
-- Bill Holland, Washington, D.C.
Awww poor freepers!
m***@merde.com
2004-07-22 06:20:49 UTC
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Post by Jake WK
The singer was the recipient of heavy-handed treatment Saturday
Her audience was the recipient of heavy-handed treatment when they
went to hear a singer and got political propaganda shoved down their
throats.

Ronstadt should be black-listed forever.
Roy
2004-07-22 06:38:28 UTC
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Post by m***@merde.com
Post by Jake WK
The singer was the recipient of heavy-handed treatment Saturday
Her audience was the recipient of heavy-handed treatment when they
went to hear a singer and got political propaganda shoved down their
throats.
Ronstadt should be black-listed forever.
It seemed to be OK when Charlie Daniels and Toby Keith were doing it. Must
be OK 'cause they are expressing YOUR sentiments.

Black-listed because she exercised her American right to free speech? Please
explain how your attitude is different from the Taliban's rules of
oppression.
m***@merde.com
2004-07-22 08:09:18 UTC
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Post by Roy
It seemed to be OK when Charlie Daniels and Toby Keith were doing it. Must
be OK 'cause they are expressing YOUR sentiments.
When people attend these concerts they EXPECT to hear patriotic songs.

Daniels sings "This is a Flag not a Rag" and Keith sings "Do You
Remember" a song about the 9/11 massacre.

Your example is invalid.

People don't attend a Dixie Chicks concert and expect to hear them
denigrate the US President (I guess that's why the Gutless Chicks had
to do it in Europe).
Jorge W. Arbusto
2004-07-22 09:21:35 UTC
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Post by m***@merde.com
Post by Roy
It seemed to be OK when Charlie Daniels and Toby Keith were doing it. Must
be OK 'cause they are expressing YOUR sentiments.
When people attend these concerts they EXPECT to hear patriotic songs.
Daniels sings "This is a Flag not a Rag" and Keith sings "Do You
Remember" a song about the 9/11 massacre.
Your example is invalid.
No it isn't. The Shrub's an empty suit, and you're a boot-licking moron,
shit eater. If Ronstadt wants to state the obvious, she's entitled.
Post by m***@merde.com
People don't attend a Dixie Chicks concert and expect to hear them
denigrate the US President (I guess that's why the Gutless Chicks had
to do it in Europe).
Well, shit eater, Ronstadt's an established act, with a lot of friends in
the industry. She obviously doesn't give a shit, since she said she will
continue to express her opinion, just as she always has. The bunch of
drunken Las Vegas pussies can go to hell as far as she's concerned; she's
booked solid for the rest of the year.
m***@merde.com
2004-07-22 09:38:50 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:21:35 GMT, "Jorge W. Arbusto"
Post by Jorge W. Arbusto
No it isn't. The Shrub's an empty suit, and you're a boot-licking moron,
You have just shown your intelligence to the entire newsgroup world by
your obscene language and lack of basic comprehension.

Congrats!
Tempest
2004-07-22 14:08:39 UTC
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Post by m***@merde.com
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:21:35 GMT, "Jorge W. Arbusto"
Post by Jorge W. Arbusto
No it isn't. The Shrub's an empty suit, and you're a boot-licking moron,
You have just shown your intelligence to the entire newsgroup world by
your obscene language and lack of basic comprehension.
Why is it you never comment on the obscene language and lack of basic
comprehension of your fellow rightards, you fucking hypocrite?
Jake WK
2004-07-22 15:59:06 UTC
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Post by Tempest
Post by m***@merde.com
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:21:35 GMT, "Jorge W. Arbusto"
Post by Jorge W. Arbusto
No it isn't. The Shrub's an empty suit, and you're a boot-licking moron,
You have just shown your intelligence to the entire newsgroup world by
your obscene language and lack of basic comprehension.
Why is it you never comment on the obscene language and lack of basic
comprehension of your fellow rightards, you fucking hypocrite?
That would be too endlessly exhausting and leave him no time to root
for Cheney or O'Reilly telling others to go fuck themselves.

Jake
m***@merde.com
2004-07-23 09:57:47 UTC
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Post by Tempest
Why is it you never comment on the obscene language and lack of basic
comprehension of your fellow rightards, you fucking hypocrite?
By and large the posters who use obscene language and resort to name
calling are the Kerry supporters.

There are examples on both sides, but the Bush supporters using foul
language is far less apparent.
Bugman
2004-07-23 12:35:11 UTC
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Post by m***@merde.com
Post by Tempest
Why is it you never comment on the obscene language and lack of basic
comprehension of your fellow rightards, you fucking hypocrite?
By and large the posters who use obscene language and resort to name
calling are the Kerry supporters.
There are examples on both sides, but the Bush supporters using foul
language is far less apparent.
That's because the stupid fuckers and cocksuckers are on the repug side.
m***@merde.com
2004-07-23 12:40:46 UTC
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Post by Bugman
That's because the stupid fuckers and cocksuckers are on the repug side.
LOL. Thanks for proving my point.
Gip Nacilbuper
2004-07-23 22:06:31 UTC
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Post by Bugman
Post by m***@merde.com
Post by Tempest
Why is it you never comment on the obscene language and lack of basic
comprehension of your fellow rightards, you fucking hypocrite?
By and large the posters who use obscene language and resort to name
calling are the Kerry supporters.
There are examples on both sides, but the Bush supporters using foul
language is far less apparent.
That's because the stupid fuckers and cocksuckers are on the repug side.
Unfortunately, we have to call despicable right wing
pieces of human dung what they are..
--
"Now, watch this drive!"
Jake WK
2004-07-23 15:53:58 UTC
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Post by m***@merde.com
Post by Tempest
Why is it you never comment on the obscene language and lack of basic
comprehension of your fellow rightards, you fucking hypocrite?
By and large the posters who use obscene language and resort to name
calling are the Kerry supporters.
There are examples on both sides, but the Bush supporters using foul
language is far less apparent.
You are joking---right?

As I said in another post----the stuff said about The Dixie Chicks,
for instance, was some of the most vile imaginable by an overwhelming
number of your compadres; the same kind who would go postal because of
Ronstadt's mere dedication, to the point of throwing drinks and
tearing down posters at the Aladdin.

Jake
m***@merde.com
2004-07-24 07:52:22 UTC
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Post by Jake WK
the same kind who would go postal because of
Ronstadt's mere dedication, to the point of throwing drinks and
tearing down posters at the Aladdin.
Ronstadt is nothing more than a trained monkey who performs tricks (in
this case music) for people.

If she wants to spew hatred to the general populacethen she should run
for Democratic office.

Until then, shut up and sing "Blue Bayou" for the ten thousandth time
bitch.
song
2004-07-24 14:43:47 UTC
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Post by m***@merde.com
Post by Jake WK
the same kind who would go postal because of
Ronstadt's mere dedication, to the point of throwing drinks and
tearing down posters at the Aladdin.
Ronstadt is nothing more than a trained monkey who performs tricks (in
this case music) for people.
If she wants to spew hatred to the general populacethen she should run
for Democratic office.
Until then, shut up and sing "Blue Bayou" for the ten thousandth time
bitch.
Just exactly how was she spewing hatred by dedicating a song? If Ronstadt
is nothing more than a trained monkey, then train a monkey to sing Blue
Bayou for you. Buy a computer program to simulate a concert.

Your voice sounds like the ruminations of a fascist dictator.

FYI:
fas·cism (fash'iz'em)
Noun
A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right,
typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together
with belligerent nationalism.
Jake WK
2004-07-22 13:59:53 UTC
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Post by m***@merde.com
Post by Roy
It seemed to be OK when Charlie Daniels and Toby Keith were doing it. Must
be OK 'cause they are expressing YOUR sentiments.
When people attend these concerts they EXPECT to hear patriotic songs.
I wonder if you even begin to realize how feeble and pitiful you sound
morally and ethically as you grasp at straws this way.
Post by m***@merde.com
Daniels sings "This is a Flag not a Rag" and Keith sings "Do You
Remember" a song about the 9/11 massacre.
Your example is invalid.
So if Linda Ronstadt records "This Land Is Your Land" on her next
platinum album she is now magically entitled to voice a political
opinion during one of her concerts?

Fortunately, you as an example of American citizenship are invalid.

Jake
song
2004-07-22 15:19:22 UTC
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Post by m***@merde.com
Post by Roy
It seemed to be OK when Charlie Daniels and Toby Keith were doing it. Must
be OK 'cause they are expressing YOUR sentiments.
When people attend these concerts they EXPECT to hear patriotic songs.
Daniels sings "This is a Flag not a Rag" and Keith sings "Do You
Remember" a song about the 9/11 massacre.
Your example is invalid.
People don't attend a Dixie Chicks concert and expect to hear them
denigrate the US President (I guess that's why the Gutless Chicks had
to do it in Europe).
I really don't understand what the fuss is all about. The audience, and
most ppl writing in here, don't seem to know the lyrics of the song Linda
dedicated to Moore. One mention of MM and al hell breaks loose. Very much
a knee jerk, over the top reaction.


Desperado
Don Henley & Glen Frey

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Desperado, why don't you come to your senses?
You been out ridin' fences for so long now.
Oh, you're a hard one,
but I know that you've got your reasons.
These things that are pleasin' you
can hurt you somehow.

Don't you draw the queen of diamonds, boy!
She'll beat you, if she's able.
You know the queen of hearts is always your best bet.
Now it seems to me some fine things
have been laid upon your table,
but you only want the ones that you can't get.

Desperado, ah, you ain't gettin' no younger.
Your pain and your hunger, they're drivin' you home.
Freedom, oh, freedom. That's just some people talkin'
Your prison is walking through this world all alone.

Don't your feet get cold in the wintertime?
The sky won't snow and the sun won't shine.
It's hard to tell the nighttime from the day.
You're losin' all your highs and lows.
Ain't it funny how the feeling goes away?

Desperado, why don't you come to your senses?
Come down from your fences, open the gate.
It may be rainin' , but there's a rainbow above you.
You better let somebody love you
You better let somebody love you
before it's too late.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
Roy
2004-07-23 16:31:18 UTC
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Post by m***@merde.com
Post by Roy
It seemed to be OK when Charlie Daniels and Toby Keith were doing it. Must
be OK 'cause they are expressing YOUR sentiments.
When people attend these concerts they EXPECT to hear patriotic songs.
Daniels sings "This is a Flag not a Rag" and Keith sings "Do You
Remember" a song about the 9/11 massacre.
Your example is invalid.
People don't attend a Dixie Chicks concert and expect to hear them
denigrate the US President (I guess that's why the Gutless Chicks had
to do it in Europe).
I don't think so, especially because you say so. I was going to give you
Sourpuss Post of the day, but I was looking for something from Bud Keith.

People hear all kinds of stuff at concerts, whether they are expected or
not. If you have read any further, you would know that people who attended
the Ronstadt concert were wondering what was REALLY up when they read
newspaper accounts of what happened, since THEY WERE THERE and it didn't go
down quite as reported.
m***@merde.com
2004-07-25 07:33:00 UTC
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Post by Roy
I was going to give you
Sourpuss Post of the day
Does this come with a trophy or a cash prize maybe???

Jorge W. Arbusto
2004-07-22 09:21:34 UTC
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Post by m***@merde.com
Post by Jake WK
The singer was the recipient of heavy-handed treatment Saturday
Her audience was the recipient of heavy-handed treatment when they
went to hear a singer and got political propaganda shoved down their
throats.
Ronstadt should be black-listed forever.
Well, obviously she won't be, shit eater. Keep dreamin...
m***@merde.com
2004-07-22 09:39:40 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:21:34 GMT, "Jorge W. Arbusto"
Post by Jorge W. Arbusto
Well, obviously she won't be, shit eater. Keep dreamin...
Settle down kid. Your Mommy might limit your 'puter usage.
Starkiller©
2004-07-22 11:45:51 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:21:34 GMT, "Jorge W. Arbusto"
Post by Jorge W. Arbusto
Post by m***@merde.com
Post by Jake WK
The singer was the recipient of heavy-handed treatment Saturday
Her audience was the recipient of heavy-handed treatment when they
went to hear a singer and got political propaganda shoved down their
throats.
Ronstadt should be black-listed forever.
Well, obviously she won't be, shit eater. Keep dreamin...
And you sir are a shit slinger as you never add anything to any of
these threads other than trying to lamely insult those you disagree
with. Not a very good trollboy. Go back to school.
Regards


Starkiller©

http://www.lairofluxlucre.com/headshop/

http://www.lairofluxlucre.com/headshop/sks/index.htm
Jake WK
2004-07-22 13:54:19 UTC
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Post by m***@merde.com
Post by Jake WK
The singer was the recipient of heavy-handed treatment Saturday
Her audience was the recipient of heavy-handed treatment when they
went to hear a singer and got political propaganda shoved down their
throats.
They got nothing "shoved down their throats". It was mere song
dedication at the end of the concert, nothing more. And many in the
audience applauded it.

Is the Ten Commandments in a U.S. courthouse heavy-handed? Or some
preacher's prayer before a Senate session....or Jerry Falwell telling
his followers to vote for Bush?
Post by m***@merde.com
Ronstadt should be black-listed forever.
Oh, how good and tolerant and American of you. Presumably from a
member of the Party of Lincoln. You would make Jefferson, Adams,
Franklin, and the framers of our great Constitution proud.


Jake
Michael Marxist Moore
2004-07-22 08:54:45 UTC
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Aladdin expels Ronstadt after stupid idiot liberal political remarks.
Another liberal bites the dust!


AP/Las Vegas Sun 7-19-04 Jerry Fink

Aladdin President Bill Timmins ordered security guards to escort pop
diva Linda Ronstadt off the property following a concert Saturday
night during which she expressed support for controversial documentary
filmmaker Michael Moore.

Timmins, who was among the almost 5,000 fans in the audience at the
Aladdin Theatre for the Performing Arts, had Ronstadt escorted to her
tour bus and her belongings from her hotel room sent to her. Timmins
also sent word to Ronstadt that she was no longer welcome at the
property for future performances, according Aladdin spokeswoman Tyri
Squyres.

How much weight that carries is debatable, since the bankrupt Aladdin
is in the process of being sold to a group headed by Planet Hollywood
International Inc. Chairman and Chief Executive Robert Earl.

Near the close of her performance, Ronstadt dedicated the Eagles hit
"Desperado" to Moore, producer of "Fahrenheit 9/11," and the room
erupted into equal parts boos and cheers.

She said Moore "is someone who cares about this country deeply and is
trying to help."

Ronstadt has been making the dedication at each of her engagements
since she began a national tour earlier this summer, but it has never
sparked such a reaction.

Hundreds of angry fans streamed from the theater as Ronstadt sang.
Some of them reportedly defaced posters of her in the lobby, writing
comments and tossing drinks on her pictures.

Timmins told Las Vegas Sun gossip columnist Timothy McDarrah: "We live
in a city where people come from all over the world to be entertained.
We hired Ms. Ronstadt as an entertainer, not as a political activist.

"Whether you are politically on the left or on the right is not the
point. She went up in front of the stage and just let it out. This was
not the correct forum for that."

Timmins said she was wrong to bring her politics to the stage.

"Our first and only priority is the enjoyment of our customers," he
said. "I made the decision to ask Miss Ronstadt to leave the hotel. A
situation like that can easily turn ugly and I didn't want anything
more to come out of it. There were a lot of angry people there after
she started talking.

"If she wants to talk about her views to a newspaper or in a magazine
article, she is free to do so. But in a stage in front of four and a
half thousand people is not the place for it."

Squyres said half the audience walked out, an estimate that might have
been high. But the number was substantial, nevertheless.

"The hotel's policy is that we hired her to entertain guests, not to
express her political views," Squyres said.

According to Squyres, the 58-year-old singer did not create a scene as
she was escorted out of the hotel and to her tour bus.

"She wasn't happy, but she was cooperative," Squyres said.

Attempts to reach Ronstadt and her manager were unsuccessful Sunday
and this morning.

Squyres said a number of ticket holders had asked for their money back
after an article appeared in a local newspaper last week quoting her
making disparaging remarks about Las Vegas.

"She said Vegas isn't the best place to perform anyway," Squyres said.

Other fans asked for their money back shortly after the Saturday night
show got underway, when Ronstadt informed the audience that ads
publicizing the concert were incorrect. The advertisements called it
her "Greatest Hits Tour."

Ronstadt started the evening with her 1983 hit "What's New?" and then
set her fans straight about what they might expect during the concert.

"In case you are wondering what I'm going to do," she said, "Driving
into town I saw this big billboard up there with my picture on it
saying 'The Greatest Hits Tour.'

"That was news to us. We didn't know it was 'The Greatest Hits Tour.'"

Squyres said Ronstadt was wrong.

"Her management gave us the information and approved the ad," she
said.

According to Squyres, Ronstadt lopped off about 20 minutes from the
show, walking away from an encore portion of the concert, which I
attended as the reviewer for the Sun.

The incident capped a generally lackluster, unenthusiastic performance
by one of the top singers of the '70s and '80s.

The Baltimore Symphony Orchestra opened the concert. The highlight of
the 30-minute segment was a rendition of George Gershwin's "Rhapsody
in Blue," featuring pianist Terrance Wilson.

Ronstadt began with several songs from the 1920s, '30s and '40s she
and arranger Nelson Riddle recorded, among them "Bewitched, Bothered
and Bewildered," "Someone to Watch Over Me" and "Straighten Up and Fly
Right."

She performed Cole Porter's "Get Out of Town," Frank Loesser's "Never
Will I Marry" and jazz great Billy Strayhorn's "Lush Life."

And then she gave fans some of what they came for, several of her hits
from the '70s and '80s, including "Just One Look" (1979), "Ooh Baby,
Baby" (1978) and "Somewhere Out There" (1987).

Although she still has that powerful, distinctive voice, Ronstadt was
merely going through the motions.

The only song she had trouble with was "Blue Bayou." She stumbled over
the lyrics, seemed to gasp for breath at one point and ended the song
in Spanish, screaming the words rather than singing them.

Her performance was uninspired and generally flat. She lacked stage
presence, doing little more than sleepwalk from song to song.

The fiasco at the end was the most exciting part of the show.




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Al Gore-role model for mental patients
Jorge W. Arbusto
2004-07-22 09:01:34 UTC
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http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/breaking/072104ronsdadt.html
Adam Albright
2004-07-22 12:23:32 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 04:54:45 -0400, Michael Marxist Moore
Post by Michael Marxist Moore
Aladdin expels Ronstadt after stupid idiot liberal political remarks.
Another liberal bites the dust!
AP/Las Vegas Sun 7-19-04 Jerry Fink
Aladdin President Bill Timmins ordered security guards to escort pop
diva Linda Ronstadt off the property following a concert Saturday
night during which she expressed support for controversial documentary
filmmaker Michael Moore.
Timmins, who was among the almost 5,000 fans in the audience at the
Aladdin Theatre for the Performing Arts, had Ronstadt escorted to her
tour bus and her belongings from her hotel room sent to her. Timmins
also sent word to Ronstadt that she was no longer welcome at the
property for future performances, according Aladdin spokeswoman Tyri
Squyres.
How much weight that carries is debatable, since the bankrupt Aladdin
is in the process of being sold to a group headed by Planet Hollywood
International Inc. Chairman and Chief Executive Robert Earl.
You clueless idiot. This probably will give Ronstadt a shoot in the
arm and a big boost to her career as more and more people hear how she
was treated by digusting lowlife REPUG scum and the pansy ass owner of
the dump.

Also the Aladdin has just assured it will be the receipant of a
massive pay back campaign. Since at least half the people in the
country are Democrats or netural and not brain dead moron Dittoheads
the asshole Timmins all but guaranteed millions now will NEVER stay at
the Aladdin or go to their casinos. Talk about a fucking moron, this
idiot takes the prize. Payback a bitch and still could padlock the
doors of the Aladdin...again. LOL!
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2004-07-22 14:18:10 UTC
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Post by Michael Marxist Moore
Aladdin expels Ronstadt after stupid idiot liberal political remarks.
Another liberal bites the dust!
AP/Las Vegas Sun 7-19-04 Jerry Fink
Aladdin President Bill Timmins ordered security guards to escort pop
diva Linda Ronstadt off the property following a concert Saturday
night during which she expressed support for controversial documentary
filmmaker Michael Moore.
Timmins is such an astute businessman, the Aladdin is in bankruptcy
court and he's forced to sell the casino.

He must have taken management lessons from Dumbya.
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