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HITLARY GOES APE OVER LEFT-WING MSNBC'S TREATMENT OF HER PRECIOUS PRINCESS CHELSEA
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P***@yahoo.com
2008-02-08 21:27:56 UTC
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HITLARY GOES APE OVER LEFT-WING MSNBC'S TREATMENT OF HER PRECIOUS
PRINCESS CHELSEA

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080208/D8UMAS3O0.html

SEATTLE (AP) - A distasteful comment about Chelsea Clinton by an MSNBC
anchor Thursday could imperil Hillary Rodham Clinton's participation
in future presidential debates on the network, a Clinton spokesman
said.

In a conference call with reporters, Clinton communications director
Howard Wolfson Friday excoriated MSNBC's David Shuster for suggesting
the Clinton campaign had "pimped out" 27-year old Chelsea by having
her place phone calls to Democratic Party superdelegates on her
mother's behalf. Wolfson called the comment "beneath contempt" and
disgusting.

"I, at this point, can't envision a scenario where we would continue
to engage in debates on that network," he added.

Clinton and Barack Obama are scheduled to participate in an MSNBC
debate Feb. 26 from Ohio, which holds its primary March 4. The Clinton
campaign has pushed hard for as many debates as possible with Obama,
but Wolfson said the Feb. 26 debate could be jeopardized.

Wolfson pointed to what he called a pattern of tasteless comments by
MSNBC anchors about the Clinton campaign. Weeks ago, "Hardball" host
Chris Matthews apologized to the former first lady after suggesting
her political career had been made possible her husband's
philandering.

MSNBC has apologized on-air for Shuster's remark, but Wolfson said
neither Chelsea nor Sen. Clinton had received a phone call offering a
personal apology.

An MSNBC spokeswoman did not immediately return a phone call
requesting comment.

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robw
2008-02-08 21:33:25 UTC
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Wow, a mom who's willing to get her kid's back.

I guess a spineless little ass like you would have taken it.
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HITLARY GOES APE OVER LEFT-WING MSNBC'S TREATMENT OF HER PRECIOUS
PRINCESS CHELSEA
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080208/D8UMAS3O0.html
SEATTLE (AP) - A distasteful comment about Chelsea Clinton by an MSNBC
anchor Thursday could imperil Hillary Rodham Clinton's participation
in future presidential debates on the network, a Clinton spokesman
said.
In a conference call with reporters, Clinton communications director
Howard Wolfson Friday excoriated MSNBC's David Shuster for suggesting
the Clinton campaign had "pimped out" 27-year old Chelsea by having
her place phone calls to Democratic Party superdelegates on her
mother's behalf. Wolfson called the comment "beneath contempt" and
disgusting.
"I, at this point, can't envision a scenario where we would continue
to engage in debates on that network," he added.
Clinton and Barack Obama are scheduled to participate in an MSNBC
debate Feb. 26 from Ohio, which holds its primary March 4. The Clinton
campaign has pushed hard for as many debates as possible with Obama,
but Wolfson said the Feb. 26 debate could be jeopardized.
Wolfson pointed to what he called a pattern of tasteless comments by
MSNBC anchors about the Clinton campaign. Weeks ago, "Hardball" host
Chris Matthews apologized to the former first lady after suggesting
her political career had been made possible her husband's
philandering.
MSNBC has apologized on-air for Shuster's remark, but Wolfson said
neither Chelsea nor Sen. Clinton had received a phone call offering a
personal apology.
An MSNBC spokeswoman did not immediately return a phone call
requesting comment.
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DeserTBoB
2008-02-08 21:43:30 UTC
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Post by robw
Wow, a mom who's willing to get her kid's back.
I guess a spineless little ass like you would have taken it. <snip>
...or used a gun to settle the dispute.
robw
2008-02-08 22:01:02 UTC
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Good one D-Bob.
Post by DeserTBoB
Post by robw
Wow, a mom who's willing to get her kid's back.
I guess a spineless little ass like you would have taken it. <snip>
...or used a gun to settle the dispute.
Gandalf Grey
2008-02-08 22:36:07 UTC
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Post by robw
Good one D-Bob.
Post by DeserTBoB
Post by robw
Wow, a mom who's willing to get her kid's back.
I guess a spineless little ass like you would have taken it. <snip>
...or used a gun to settle the dispute.
Don't forget that the dittoheads would only use the gun once the other guy's
back was turned.
l***@cs.com
2008-02-08 22:49:28 UTC
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Post by Gandalf Grey
Post by robw
Good one D-Bob.
Post by DeserTBoB
Post by robw
Wow, a mom who's willing to get her kid's back.
I guess a spineless little ass like you would have taken it. <snip>
...or used a gun to settle the dispute.
Don't forget that the dittoheads would only use the gun once the other guy's
back was turned.
Ditto heads with guns??
It doesn't appear to be true.

The five women killed in Chicago an the mass murder committed in
Missouri were the work of two minority individuals.

You need to be more truthful.
robw
2008-02-09 00:15:29 UTC
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Which has got what to do with this thread?

Moron.
Post by Gandalf Grey
Post by robw
Good one D-Bob.
Post by DeserTBoB
Post by robw
Wow, a mom who's willing to get her kid's back.
I guess a spineless little ass like you would have taken it. <snip>
...or used a gun to settle the dispute.
Don't forget that the dittoheads would only use the gun once the other guy's
back was turned.
Ditto heads with guns??
It doesn't appear to be true.

The five women killed in Chicago an the mass murder committed in
Missouri were the work of two minority individuals.

You need to be more truthful.
3941 Dead
2008-02-09 01:24:42 UTC
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Post by robw
Which has got what to do with this thread?
Moron.
Post by Gandalf Grey
Post by robw
Good one D-Bob.
Post by DeserTBoB
Post by robw
Wow, a mom who's willing to get her kid's back.
I guess a spineless little ass like you would have taken it. <snip>
...or used a gun to settle the dispute.
Don't forget that the dittoheads would only use the gun once the other
guy's
Post by Gandalf Grey
back was turned.
Ditto heads with guns??
It doesn't appear to be true.
The five women killed in Chicago an the mass murder committed in
Missouri were the work of two minority individuals.
You need to be more truthful.
And we all know that minorities can't be dittoheads.
Tom Sr.
2008-02-08 22:54:03 UTC
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Post by DeserTBoB
Post by robw
Wow, a mom who's willing to get her kid's back.
-
Post by robw
I guess a spineless little ass like you would have taken it. <snip>
...or used a gun to settle the dispute.
Again we see the actual hypocrisy of Republican "family values".

Pitifully, it is no longer surprising it has become so typical.

-Tom Sr.
Topaz
2008-02-08 23:57:13 UTC
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http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/book-exposes-nwos-hidden-agenda-for-feminism-homosexuality/
Book Exposes NWO's Hidden Agenda For Feminism & Homosexuality
February 7, 2008


When discussing the New World Order and its agenda of destroying
Western Civilization, the focus seems to be on issues like banking,
politics, false flag attacks and whatnot. It's easy to lose sight of
the more subtle (yet equally powerful) weapons employed against
mankind, especially the attack on the most basic building block of any
society-the nuclear family.
One book recently published by a well-known internet writer covers
this topic in a way not regularly seen. Entitled Cruel Hoax, feminism
and the New World Order, Henry Makow PhD of www.henrymakow.com
discusses the devastation wrought on Western society by feminism and
its ugly twin sisters-the militant homosexual agenda, abortion,
pornography and "sexual liberation." In "Cruel Hoax" Makow shows how a
determined enemy can conquer a nation-not with armies and tanks-but
with destructive ideas that bore into the load-bearing beams of
society.
The book shows that feminism was not a spontaneous grassroots
"progressive" movement but rather was deliberately created by elite
Communist and CIA agents like Betty Frieden and Gloria Steinem, using
the mass media to undermine gender roles and the family. He makes a
convincing case that we are being reengineered to behave as
homosexuals in every sense except same-sex attraction for the express
purpose of sexualizing the population but with no reproduction taking
place, at least not in nuclear families.
He asserts that the feminist demand for "equal power" causes this
neutering and sex role confusion. Makow maintains that masculinity is
defined by power and femininity is defined by love.
"Men want power," says Makow. "Women want love. Heterosexuality is
based on the exchange of female power for male love, and when men
trade power for love, they are feminized and when women demand power
instead of love they are masculinized."
Makow's explanation of heterosexuality is one of the more lucid and
original yet offered. In an age where paid mouthpieces and daily
television programs blather on endlessly about what men and women are
and aren't, Makow goes right to the most irreducible, simplified of
definitions-men represent raw power to protect and provide for a
family and women represent the nurturing qualities needed for the
human species to survive.
Drawing on historical documentation from the mouths of the New World
Order architects and circumstantial evidence abundant to all with eyes
to see, Makow paints a frightening picture of a society dying a slow,
tortuous death and going out-not with a bang, but a whimper. He cites
the changes in attitude about male-female relations as well as
marriage and children. He shows how individuals in the West-through a
deliberate yet subtle media campaign-have succumbed to a collective
narcissistic and overly-sexualized worldview to the point that they
can no longer function intellectually, making them easy prey for
powerful forces at work in remolding society.
A former teacher of English at the University of Winnipeg in Canada,
Makow encountered this agenda first-hand by allowing free and open
discussion of male/female relations in his courses. In short time,
female students majoring in "Women's Studies" protested and his
contract wasn't extended. A smear campaign in the media compared him
to a doctor who uses his position to fondle female patients. He sued
the "Winnipeg Sun" for libel and won.
'The NWO conspiracy seeks to destroy all collective forces, races,
religions, nations and families, anything that competes with the
bankers and the power-elite. In its most basic description, it is
satanic and anti-God. It seeks to reduce all people to the level
described by George Orwell and Aldous Huxley in their classic
dystopias."
Naturally, Makow has been targeted by the usual suspects since
beginning his crusade. The Canadian Jewish Congress has issued
complaints with the Canadian Human Rights Commission over his writings
on Zionism. Despite growing up in a secular Jewish home he has
rejected the ethno-centric, exclusivist teachings of Judaism and
although he does not attend a church, he basically agrees with the
teachings of Jesus.
In "Cruel Hoax" he weighs in on the present 'war on terror', saying it
is rooted in the desire to consolidate the power of the central
bankers and create a thinly veiled totalitarian world government. He
points out how the NWO architects have been trying for years to
destabilize Muslim societies with the same feminist, anti-male and
anti-family ideas that have wrought havoc on the West .
He points to the resources the NWO forces have devoted to painting
Muslim women as oppressed by their male-dominated societies: 'Look at
all the attention paid to the burkha and headscarf while failing to
show the low rates of divorce and out-of-wedlock children in the
Middle East.' he says. 'They see the success they have achieved in the
West by confusing the roles of women and men and are repeating it in
the present 'war on terror'.
Those wishing to understand the true depth of the assault on
civilization need to make "Cruel Hoax" required reading. Like special
glasses that help bring a confusing picture into focus, it is an eye
opener. "Cruel Hoax" demonstrates just how deep the conspiracy against
mankind goes and that it is not as remote and far-removed as some
people assume.


http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/

http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
DeserTBoB
2008-02-09 01:20:49 UTC
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Post by Topaz
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/book-exposes-nwos-hidden-agenda-for-feminism-homosexuality/
Book Exposes NWO's Hidden Agenda For Feminism & Homosexuality
February 7, 2008
When discussing the New World Order and its agenda of destroying
Western Civilization <snip>
Hooboy...here comes another one....

[bong]...CUCKOO! [bong]...CUCKOO! [bong]...CUCKOO!
John Q. Smith
2008-02-09 04:52:17 UTC
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Post by DeserTBoB
Post by Topaz
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/book-exposes-nwos-hidden-agenda-for-feminism-homosexuality/
Book Exposes NWO's Hidden Agenda For Feminism & Homosexuality
February 7, 2008
When discussing the New World Order and its agenda of destroying
Western Civilization <snip>
Hooboy...here comes another one....
[bong]...CUCKOO! [bong]...CUCKOO! [bong]...CUCKOO!
Did you expect anything less from the resident kook Topaz? He rarely
actually replies with his own words, he merely deletes everything and posts
more of his kookery.
He has got to be in the top 10 idiots/kooks on usenet (if not the top 5).
It is sad really, as I don't think he has a life! He is probably an
overweight middle aged slob sitting in his dank basement with his cat in his
lap and yelling at his old lady mother upstairs to shut up.
It would appear that usenet and being a kook is his life.
p***@gmail.com
2008-02-09 09:07:44 UTC
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Post by DeserTBoB
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/book-exposes-nwos-hidden...
Book Exposes NWO's Hidden Agenda For Feminism & Homosexuality
February 7, 2008
When discussing the New World Order and its agenda of destroying
Western Civilization <snip>
Hooboy...here comes another one....
[bong]...CUCKOO!  [bong]...CUCKOO!  [bong]...CUCKOO!
Did you expect anything less from the resident kook Topaz?  He rarely
actually replies with his own words, he merely deletes everything and posts
more of his kookery.
He has got to be in the top 10 idiots/kooks on usenet (if not the top 5).
It is sad really, as I don't think he has a life!  He is probably an
overweight middle aged slob sitting in his dank basement with his cat in his
lap and yelling at his old lady mother upstairs to shut up.
It would appear that usenet and being a kook is his life.
What I don't get is that his account seems to have been closed. How
come he can still post here?
John Q. Smith
2008-02-09 15:15:17 UTC
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Post by DeserTBoB
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/book-exposes-nwos-hidden...
Book Exposes NWO's Hidden Agenda For Feminism & Homosexuality
February 7, 2008
When discussing the New World Order and its agenda of destroying
Western Civilization <snip>
Hooboy...here comes another one....
[bong]...CUCKOO! [bong]...CUCKOO! [bong]...CUCKOO!
Did you expect anything less from the resident kook Topaz? He rarely
actually replies with his own words, he merely deletes everything and posts
more of his kookery.
He has got to be in the top 10 idiots/kooks on usenet (if not the top 5).
It is sad really, as I don't think he has a life! He is probably an
overweight middle aged slob sitting in his dank basement with his cat in his
lap and yelling at his old lady mother upstairs to shut up.
It would appear that usenet and being a kook is his life.
What I don't get is that his account seems to have been closed. How
come he can still post here?
Google has blocked him, but he accesses usenet via "NewsGuy - Unlimited
Usenet $19.95"
p***@gmail.com
2008-02-09 15:22:28 UTC
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Post by John Q. Smith
Post by DeserTBoB
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/book-exposes-nwos-hidden...
Book Exposes NWO's Hidden Agenda For Feminism & Homosexuality
February 7, 2008
When discussing the New World Order and its agenda of destroying
Western Civilization <snip>
Hooboy...here comes another one....
[bong]...CUCKOO! [bong]...CUCKOO! [bong]...CUCKOO!
Did you expect anything less from the resident kook Topaz? He rarely
actually replies with his own words, he merely deletes everything and posts
more of his kookery.
He has got to be in the top 10 idiots/kooks on usenet (if not the top 5).
It is sad really, as I don't think he has a life! He is probably an
overweight middle aged slob sitting in his dank basement with his cat in his
lap and yelling at his old lady mother upstairs to shut up.
It would appear that usenet and being a kook is his life.
What I don't get is that his account seems to have been closed. How
come he can still post here?
Google has blocked him, but he accesses usenet via "NewsGuy - Unlimited
Usenet $19.95"-
Thanks for the explanation.
Anything we could do against him?
John Q. Smith
2008-02-10 02:57:15 UTC
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Post by p***@gmail.com
Post by John Q. Smith
Post by DeserTBoB
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/book-exposes-nwos-hidden...
Book Exposes NWO's Hidden Agenda For Feminism & Homosexuality
February 7, 2008
When discussing the New World Order and its agenda of destroying
Western Civilization <snip>
Hooboy...here comes another one....
[bong]...CUCKOO! [bong]...CUCKOO! [bong]...CUCKOO!
Did you expect anything less from the resident kook Topaz? He rarely
actually replies with his own words, he merely deletes everything and posts
more of his kookery.
He has got to be in the top 10 idiots/kooks on usenet (if not the top 5).
It is sad really, as I don't think he has a life! He is probably an
overweight middle aged slob sitting in his dank basement with his cat
in
his
lap and yelling at his old lady mother upstairs to shut up.
It would appear that usenet and being a kook is his life.
What I don't get is that his account seems to have been closed. How
come he can still post here?
Google has blocked him, but he accesses usenet via "NewsGuy - Unlimited
Usenet $19.95"-
Thanks for the explanation.
Anything we could do against him?
Not really. Ignore him and/or killlfile. That's what most people do.
Topaz
2008-02-09 11:20:12 UTC
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:52:17 -0700, "John Q. Smith"
Post by John Q. Smith
Did you expect anything less from the resident kook Topaz? He rarely
actually replies with his own words, he merely deletes everything and posts
more of his kookery.
1. I do not read rude posts.

2. I snip rude posts completely in my reply.

3. I don't give any personal reply to rude posts but only a cut and
paste.

4. I don't let rude posts get the last word.

http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/

http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
John Q. Smith
2008-02-09 15:19:48 UTC
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Post by Topaz
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:52:17 -0700, "John Q. Smith"
Post by John Q. Smith
Did you expect anything less from the resident kook Topaz? He rarely
actually replies with his own words, he merely deletes everything and posts
more of his kookery.
1. I do not read rude posts.
Actually, you probably do read them, but don't have the means to have an
adequate response so you pretend to ignore them.
Post by Topaz
2. I snip rude posts completely in my reply.
3. I don't give any personal reply to rude posts but only a cut and
paste.
Someone who primarily does a cut and paste of someone else's works reveals
their own weakness!
Post by Topaz
4. I don't let rude posts get the last word.
Thanks for showing us your juvenile tendancies and ignorance!
Topaz
2008-02-09 16:25:02 UTC
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On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 08:19:48 -0700, "John Q. Smith"
Post by John Q. Smith
Actually, you probably do read them,
You are wrong.


http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/

http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
p***@gmail.com
2008-02-09 18:37:31 UTC
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Post by Topaz
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 08:19:48 -0700, "John Q. Smith"
Post by John Q. Smith
Actually, you probably do read them,
 You are wrong.
Then how do you know these postings are rude, nazi piece of shit?
Seriously, what's your purpose in life with these postings? No one
reads them, everyone either ignores you or calls you nazi...
What's your point?
To show that you're a pathetic moron in dire need of attention? We
know that already. No need to continue...
Topaz
2008-02-09 18:58:48 UTC
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Post by p***@gmail.com
Then how do you know these postings are rude, nazi piece of shit?
Obviously, I read them until I get to a phrase like this. By the way
I did not read the rest of it.


http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/

http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
p***@gmail.com
2008-02-09 15:20:10 UTC
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On 9 Feb., 12:20, Topaz <***@hotmail.com> wrote:


Fuck off, nazi piece of shit.
Get help.
Now.
DeserTBoB
2008-02-09 16:43:11 UTC
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Post by Topaz
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:52:17 -0700, "John Q. Smith"
Post by John Q. Smith
Did you expect anything less from the resident kook Topaz? He rarely
actually replies with his own words, he merely deletes everything and posts
more of his kookery.
1. I do not read rude posts.
2. I snip rude posts completely in my reply. <snip>
Here...respond to this, Topaz!
Topaz
2008-02-09 11:18:42 UTC
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By Rebecca Traister

When you turn on your television this fall, you'll be watching more
women kick more ass than you can possibly imagine-physically,
economically and sexually. Hard-bodied and smart, rich and aggressive,
confident and independent, the chicks who populate the prime-time
lineup are being cast in roles that once belonged almost exclusively
to men. These broads are cops and lawyers and masters of the business
universe. Hollywood doyennes like Kyra Sedgwick, Mary-Louise Parker
and Holly Hunter have already found midlife career solace (and good
writing) on cable. This year, Julianna Margulies will star as a nasty
Nancy Grace knockoff, Angie Harmon as a police lieutenant, Lucy Liu as
a publishing executive, and Patricia Heaton as a news anchor; there's
a new "Bionic Woman" and a whole show about the world's leading
incubator of the future, "The Terminator's" Sarah Connor. The flinty
Cagneys, Laceys, Murphys and Buffys of yore aren't the exceptions in
the new TV season; they rule.

So what happened to the men? Nothing good, that's for sure. Here, for
instance, is what happens when Lucy Liu's character, Mia, on ABC's
"Cashmere Mafia," wins a work contest, and big promotion, over her
boyfriend and colleague Richard: He breaks up with her, tail between
his legs. "I thought I'd win and buy us a place and take care of you,"
he explains. "And now that it's reversed I just can't see us .. I'm 40
next month. I want someone to come home to. I'm going to want kids,
and we're just going in opposite directions." Yup. Welcome to the new
world on television, where the women are strong, and the men are
cavemen. Literally. ABC's "Cavemen," based on the Geico ad campaign
character, is about a trio of Cro-Magnons with low self-esteem and a
little hair-growth problem. Small-screen heroes who aren't actually
dragging their knuckles behave even worse. In the face of professional
and sexual equality between the televised sexes, these fictional guys
are cowed, angry and generally emasculated by the successes of their
female counterparts.

It can't all be coincidence that this season is coming at the end of a
summer in which the biggest movie hits have featured dopey,
ill-groomed, irresponsible boys who score beautiful high-achieving
women and then have no idea what to do once they land them. That's
right, we're in Apatowland, baby, where the idea of a male romantic
lead now begins with a water bong and ends with a fart joke..

Among the degradations about to be heaped on television's men? There
are guys whose wives cheat on them, whose girlfriends get promoted
over them, whose mates make more money than they do; guys who get left
out of baby-making, who date women with penises and at least one who
gets anally raped by a monkey.
Seriously.

It's tough to know where to start in explaining how bad these boys
have it, but the monkey rape seems as good a place as any. It takes
place in the debut episode of the Farrelly brothers' half-hour comedy
"The Rules for Starting Over," which premieres on Fox in spring 2008,
about Gator (Craig Bierko), a menschy guy tossed back into the dating
market after his wife leaves him for a Cirque de Soleil performer.
Gator, who hasn't been on a date since his 20s, is mystified by women,
and startled to be invited up to the apartment of an attractive
naturalist who shows him tapes of the gorillas she's studied. She
informs him that "in the world of primates, the female always
initiates," pulling him onto the floor on top of her to demonstrate.
That's when the woman's pet baboon takes Gator from behind. Gator's
buddies do nickname the monkey "bi-curious George"-the only funny line
of the episode-but otherwise are a lamentable bunch. They include a
heavily accented Indian doctor, also recently divorced, and so lonely
and stupid that he invites an escort to his birthday dinner (at "Thank
God It Is Friday's"-think of how hilarious that is in an Indian
accent!) and proposes to her. As if getting ditched for a circus
acrobat isn't emblematic enough of the clownish powerlessness of
modern man, the show's lone female star is dating a short man who
works for the Celtics-as the team's bouncy mascot, Lucky the
Leprechaun!

At least the guys on "The Secrets of Starting Over" have met women.
Geeky schlubs Sheldon and Leonard (Jim Parsons and Johnny Galecki) on
CBS' "Big Bang Theory" are socially hobbled physicists whose only
sexual activity involves donating to a high-IQ sperm bank, so that
woman can get pregnant by them without actually having to touch them!
The guys meet a cute neighbor and by the end of the half-hour have had
their pants removed by her brawny ex. "It wasn't my first pantsing,
and it won't be my last," says a defeated Sheldon. Going pantsless is
one of the weirdly repeated themes of the new season, turning up again
in ABC's bone-chillingly bad comedy "Carpoolers."

The idea behind "Carpoolers," voiced several times during its pilot,
is that daily trips to and from work are the only escape for these
four miserable men, who have nothing in common except a barely
disguised antipathy for the women in their lives. Aubrey's wife has
him by the balls: He waits on her, cooks and cares for the kids while
she watches television and takes his money. Laird (Jerry O'Connell),
the carpool's founder, has been dumped by his wife, who cheated and
left him with nothing but an ass-print on the sliding glass door.
Gracen (Fred Goss) is married to Leila (Faith Ford), a woman he seems
to care for, but whose real estate "hobby" has recently become
lucrative. The pilot revolves around the carpool's suspicion that
Leila is making more money than her husband. The decline of
masculinity is further embodied by Gracen and Leila's subliterate
adult son Marmaduke, who inexplicably prances around the house without
trousers and miraculously lands a job at which he, too, will be making
more money than his father.

The fury and confusion about shifting gender roles as expressed on
"Carpoolers" is scary in its nakedness. At one point, Laird suggests
to Gracen that he talk to his wife about how she's spending his money.
"My money? Ha ha, no," says Gracen. "All the money I make is our
money; it always has been. The money she's making now is her money."
Aubrey chimes in, "Well at least you have your money. My wife gets my
checks; I don't even know how much I make!" To which Laird says, "My
wife and I have it all worked out out. She gets everything. Her lawyer
saw to that."

Ha ha ha ha!
Later Laird stokes Gracen's fear by explaining that "men go off to
war; women shop; if we don't provide for our women, do they really
need us?" Part of the horror of this show is how it-and not the
specter of the high-earning wife-is actually stripping its heroes of
anything resembling self-respect or masculine dignity. Gracen squirms
around about Leila's income like a spineless nelly; he curls in a
fetal position when he hears how much she has in her account; he can
only have sex with her after he realizes it's all been a
misunderstanding-of course she's not wealthier than he is!
"Carpoolers" does more to impugn the American male than any
high-earning spouse could ever do. But if this sitcom is any
measure-and god willing it is not-the American female is fucked. There
is no mode of femininity that satisfies these guys: The wife who is
too successful makes her husband feel unmanly; the wife who doesn't
work makes her husband bake; the wife who leaves is a bitch who takes
the furniture..

At least the barely sublimated aggression is played for laughs in the
sitcoms. When it comes to the dramas, the female triumphs are that
much more potent, and the resulting arrested machismo of the men is
that much more ... not potent. On ABC's "Women's Murder Club," Angie
Harmon is police Lt. Lindsay Boxer-recently promoted over her older
male colleague-who solves murders with the support of her best female
confidants, a reporter, a medical examiner and a D.A. (brunet, blond,
African-American, natch). They're such a successful clique that they
even have a wannabe (Asian!) member, who begs to become a part of
their club, which she sees as "women teaming up to level the playing
field in a man's world."

The only area in which these women show any weakness is their love
lives, but it's made clear that that has a lot to do with male
discomfort with their power. As Lindsay says about her failed
marriage, "Before he left, I kept promising that I would change. That
I would put him over the job and that I would be at home more.
Eventually he just stopped believing me, and he was right." But even
without the husband, she shows no interest in changing. When it's
pointed out that Lindsay hasn't had sex in two years, she says
defensively, "I'm picky. And busy." Medical examiner Claire (Paula
Newsome) has a more successful relationship. When she goes home to
cuddle with her husband, we understand him to be a man comfortable
with his wife's power as soon as she sits in his lap .. in his
wheelchair.

Set on an opposite coast and a professional world apart, ABC's
"Cashmere Mafia" strikes amazingly similar notes to "Women's Murder
Club." "Mafia" is Darren Starr's attempt to plunder the "Sex and the
City" audience, before the mid-season debut of NBC's "Lipstick
Jungle," based on a book by the original Carrie, Candace Bushnell.
"Mafia" begins with a shot of New York amazons (brunet, blond,
red-headed, Asian!) striding down a Gotham street. "This is a story
about four friends who were taught from childhood that through hard
work and smart choices they could have it all," the efficient
voice-over tells us. Zoe (Frances O'Connor) is a Wall Street macher
with a great family and stay-at-home- dad husband so devoted that he
turns down a play-group mom's offer for strings-free sex. Juliet
(Miranda Otto) is a hotel chain executive; Caitlin (Bonnie Somerville)
is a marketing executive for a cosmetics company who, according to the
intro, "says she lives for work because work never tells her that he's
just not that into her." But her imperviousness to men may not be
simply attitudinal; she's also a budding lesbian. After her first kiss
with a woman, the pilot's soundtrack plays "You Make Me Feel Like a
Natural Woman." That's right, boys. Want to know what makes this
beautiful woman feel like a woman? A woman! Suck it! Like the Murder
Club ladies, these women are utterly self-sufficient professionally,
except insomuch as they rely on each other for detailed
four-way-phone- call advice..

On "Big Shots," "Cashmere Mafia's" corollary about a bunch of
classically red-blooded businessmen, the four friends sit around a
swimming pool taking a schvitz like the girls on "Sisters" used to do.
"Look at us," says Brody, played by Christopher Titus, as a man so
devoted to his wife that he spends the whole episode micromanaging the
catering for her birthday party, "We're supposed to be these alpha
males, right? But now James' wife is sleeping around on him and Karl
can't control his crazy mistress and I'm so whipped that I can't tell
my wife that the delivery company can't seem to find her shipment of
Napoleans." Duncan (Dylan McDermott) replies flatly, "Men, we're the
new women," just before Brody gets a phone call that he answers, "Oh,
what fresh hell ... What do you mean the pastry filling won't clear
customs?"

"Big Shots" is one of the two-two! -- new dramas so befuddled by
gender arrangements that in their pilots, they have their muscular
male leads-McDermott on "Big Shots" and William Baldwin on ABC's
"Dirty Sexy Money"-engaging in sex with transvestites. What better
symbol could there be of the emasculation of television's men and the
chicks-with- dicks attitude toward its women? As "Dirty Sexy Money"
lead Peter Krause taunts Baldwin's character: "Is she more of a man
than you are?"

Yes. She is more of a man than he is. All of television's women are,
apparently. You know you're in trouble when Julianna Margulies' tough
lawyer character on Fox's "Canterbury's Law," which premieres
midseason, walks in on her male junior colleague in the pisser, and
when he asks her to leave, she merely turns on the water to hurry
things along.

Rather than seeing their opportunities for interaction with women
expand, these men have instead curled into fetal positions like Gracen
on "Carpoolers." Is it simply impossible for the televised heroes of
yesteryear to go gracefully into their new world order? It's
understandable and honest to express some befuddlement with shifting
expectations. But these are characters whose discomfort makes them
unattractive, or silly-looking. They are whipped, flummoxed and
helpless without the power to make the calls-in the bedroom or the
boardroom. They can't just be normal nice guys who are no longer
entirely in control, who do childcare or play a subordinate role at
work but who do so in a way that is still sexy, still powerful,
instead of in a way that is marked as submissive, beaten down or
pansy-assed. Nope, they must be buffoons, caricatures, dopes or just
angry, neutered bastards.

It's discomfiting for women, too, to see television's idea of what a
feminized man is, since it is a reflection of what television
considers feminine to begin with. If these men are "the new women,"
then what does that say about what they take women for? Do they think
we have hissy fits when we discover how much our husbands have in
their bank accounts? That we flip out when a man comes on to us? That
when we get passed over for promotions we walk out of relationships in
defeat? If these are supposed to be girly-men, then the notion of what
girly looks like is simply ghastly, an insult not only to the men, but
to the women whose habits they are supposedly aping. Little wonder
that many of these programs include plotlines in which women and men
turn in on their own gender to fulfill their social, professional and
sexual needs.


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2008-02-09 15:19:57 UTC
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On 9 Feb., 12:18, Topaz <***@hotmail.com> wrote:

Fuck off, nazi piece of shit.
Get help.
Now.
DeserTBoB
2008-02-09 16:42:03 UTC
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By Rebecca Traister
When you turn on your television this fall, you'll be watching more
women kick more ass than you can possibly imagine-physically,
economically and sexually.<snip>
Hey Topaz...I thought I told you to stay in that oven until you're
cooked to a turn!
Stuart
2008-02-09 17:09:35 UTC
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Post by Topaz
By Rebecca Traister
When you turn on your television this fall, you'll be watching more
women kick more ass than you can possibly imagine-physically,
economically and sexually.<snip>
Hey Topaz...I thought I told you to stay in that oven until you're
cooked to a turn!
Here is a picture of Alex Vangel's hero George Lincoln Rockwell about to be
gang banged by 200 brothers of The Nation Of Islam.

You can see by the expression on Rockwell's face that he is concerned about
leaving the Vaseline in the glove compartment of his Beetle.

Yes, I'm afraid that poor old George and his American Nazi buddies are in for
a good ass fucking. Not a good day to be a Nazi.

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Topaz
2008-02-09 19:00:57 UTC
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Exposing the Real Racists
Edgar Johnston, PhD. reviews an important new book
Jewish Supremacism by David Duke. Published by Free Speech Press, 2003

More than 500,000 copies of 'Jewish Supremacism' have been sold
worldwide. It is even sold within the Russian Duma (parliament).


Jewish leaders are extremely fearful of this book. I can illustrate
the cause of their concern by giving an example of David Duke's
technique in exposing what he calls Jewish supremacism.
If any prominent political person in the Western World publicly
announced that Jews are frequently disloyal to nations where they live
and that they view Gentiles as racially inferior, he would face
excoriation as an 'anti-Semite'. Probably, he would be driven from
office. Duke has no need to make such claims, for he simply quotes
very prominent and powerful Jews who make his point for him.
FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH
In the first few pages of Jewish Supremacism, Duke quotes Dr.
Steinlight, a former head of National Affairs for the largest Jewish
organisation in the United States. Here is the quotation taken from a
2001 magazine article written by Dr. Steinlight:-
'I'll confess it at least, like thousands of other typical kids of my
generation I was reared as a Jewish nationalist, even a
quasi-separatist. Every summer for two months of ten formative
years... I attended Jewish summer camp. There, each morning, I saluted
a foreign flag, dressed in a uniform reflecting its colours, sang a
foreign national anthem, learned a foreign language... and was taught
the superiority of my people to the 'Gentiles' who oppressed us.
'We were taught to view non-Jews as... people less sensitive,
intelligent and moral than ourselves.'
This method of quoting major Jewish figures and sources is used
hundreds of times in Duke's book to advance his thesis that there is a
powerful Jewish supremacist element in Judaism and Zionism that
threatens not only the freedom of the Palestinian people but all
nations, including the United States.
Duke also uses direct quotes from the Talmud and other major Jewish
sources, such as the Jewish Encyclopedia to expose a long-standing
cadre of hateful, anti-Gentile Jewish supremacists. Shocking quotes
are displayed from major Jewish magazines that boast of a Jewish
supremacy over the media and politics of the United States. He finds
disturbing and hateful words from Jewish leaders, such as Ariel
Sharon, which openly support genocide, and he reveals quotations from
Israeli leaders who equate Zionism and Nazism. Of course, he also
cites many prominent Gentiles of historical and contemporary times,
but the Jewish quotations and sources have the greatest power.
Frankly, they are so convincing that Jewish leaders have sought to get
the book banned in many nations.
Interestingly, Jewish Supremacism was published first in Russia, the
same nation that gave birth to The Protocols of Zion. In 2000 it
quickly became a best seller throughout the entirety of the former
Eastern bloc. It even sells briskly in the corridors of the Russian
Duma (Parliament) and has prompted Levinsky, Goldman and other leading
Jews to seek its ban under old Soviet laws forbidding 'anti-Semitism'.
In the Autumn of 2000, Levinsky and others filed a formal complaint to
the Russian Prosecutor General and asked for the book to be classified
as anti-Semitic and thus illegal. After a year of close examination
(they painstakingly verified all 669 of the documentations), the
Russian Government shocked the Jewish community by officially
declaring that the book is not anti-Semitic. Jewish members of the
Duma then introduced new legislation aimed at outlawing 'Jewish
Supremacism', but it failed by a few votes.
Since then, the book has been sold in thousands of street corners
across the breadth of the Russian Federation and has now topped an
incredible 500,000 in print.
Translated into most of the Eastern European languages, the book has
won Duke many academic awards for its scholarship, including an
honorary Doctorate awarded by President's University, the second
largest university in the nation of Ukraine.
Subsequently the university itself published a best-selling Ukrainian
edition. In May of 2003, Free Speech Press published the English
version of Jewish Supremacism, accompanied by a storm of interest and
controversy. Jewish leaders are horrified that it is well on its way
to becoming the best-read book in the world on Zionism.
SMEARS BACKFIRED
Although Zionist organisations have tried to use Duke's media
characterisation as a 'white supremacist' to discredit his book, so
far their exploitation of his early-life involvement in a KKK group
has only backfired by making the book and its author more newsworthy.
Attacks by the ADL and other pro-Zionist groups have led to
sensationalist news coverage, causing even greater interest and
confounding those who desperately wanted Duke's book to die a quiet
death.
David Duke decries the label of white supremacist and says that while
he certainly desires the preservation of his own heritage he seeks no
supremacy over others. He maintains that those who scream most
hatefully against him are themselves guilty of the most extreme and
powerful supremacism on earth: Jewish supremacism.
When Duke lectured in some Persian Gulf nations last year, Zionist
leaders attempted to undercut his support by allegations of 'racism'.
Those organised efforts had little affect on the overflow, mixed-race
audiences that cheered almost his every word. As a former university
professor and a writer who has lectured occasionally on behalf of the
people of Palestine, I approached David Duke's book out of a curiosity
elicited by the intense Zionist efforts to suppress it. Actually, I
had readily accepted the negative portrayals of him I had read in the
Jewish press, but I wanted to see what all the commotion was about.
Why were they so anxious to ban this book and slander its author? To
my great surprise I discovered a most amazing book!
David Duke stated that he had set out with the ambitious goal of
writing the most powerful expose of Zionism ever put into print. With
extreme scepticism of his ability to accomplish such a lofty goal, I
began to read. Three days later, as I turned the last page, I knew
that he had accomplished more than he dreamed. Rather than just
assembling his facts in a dry textbook fashion, David Duke presents
his thesis in the first person. It is the personal narrative of a
thoughtful and enlightened young man who is sympathetic to Zionism,
but is awakened to its supremacist core that not only threatens the
Palestinians but his own beloved European-Americans as well. I could
not find even a trace of hatred, intemperance or true anti-Semitism in
this book. However, by extensive quoting of important Jewish leaders
and Zionist source materials, Duke exposes a deep well of Jewish
supremacist hatred against Gentiles. He points out that one is
unfairly labelled an 'anti-Semite' simply for exposing the hateful
pronouncements of Jewish supremacists.
ABSOLVES SOME JEWS
The book is clearly not anti-Semitic. Duke goes at length to point out
that not all Jews are supremacists, and that the supremacists not only
endanger the Gentile world but threaten innocent Jews by exposing them
to an inevitably hostile Gentile reaction. The book is in fact
dedicated to the late Dr. Israel Shahak, a Holocaust survivor and
Israeli peace activist whose life was dedicated to saving both Jews
and Gentiles from the dangers of 'Jewish supremacism'. David Duke
cleverly turns the term 'anti-Semitic' on its head by quoting
columnist Joseph Sobran's remark that the 'anti-Semite' is no longer
someone who dislikes Jews; he is now simply a person whom the Jews
don't like.
Jewish Supremacism begins with David Duke's first great epiphany on
the Jewish question: his learning that the Russian Revolution wasn't
Russian but overwhelmingly Jewish. Using powerful documentary
evidence, he shows that the Bolshevik Revolution was actually financed
and led by Jews who had their own agenda against the Czar. He quotes
from familiar and impeccable sources such as Winston Churchill, the
dispatches of the American ambassador to Russia, the chief of British
Intelligence and copious Jewish sources. For instance, he quotes a
report from the National Archives of the United States showing that of
the 384 members of the first Bolshevik government, there were more
than 300 Jews and only 13 ethnic Russians.
How could such an enormous fact of history be hidden? Duke asks. His
rhetorical question is answered throughout the rest of this book by
giving the clear evidence of the tremendous power exercised by Jewish
supremacists in government, media and the academic establishment. Not
only has the pre-eminent Jewish role in the Bolshevik Revolution and
its Gulags been quietly suppressed, but also even the very existence
of Jewish supremacism has been kept from public awareness. One can
freely discuss the evils of white supremacism, but if one dares to
expose Jewish supremacism, one will assuredly be labelled an
'anti-Semite', the ultimate term of opprobrium in modern society. In
very effective arguments, Duke points out that one is not called
'anti-Christian' for exposing the excesses of the Inquisition or
'anti-Muslim' for opposing the intolerance of some extremist Moslem
sects. But dare simply to quote the hateful statements of important
leaders of Judaism and Zionism, and in many countries one could well
wind up in prison for 'hate speech'.
One of the fascinating themes to which David Duke repeatedly turns is
the easily documented Jewish supremacist strategy of fostering extreme
chauvinism among their own people while at the same time working to
break down the group loyalty of the Gentiles among whom they live.
Jewish leaders have long made clear that Jewish communities often have
agendas that conflict with their Gentile hosts. Duke describes the
struggle over those agendas as similar to the contest of two football
teams. One team cultivates an extreme group loyalty through a chronic
recital of Gentile persecution and an accompanying 'chosen-people'
supremacist vision. The other is instilled with guilt and the idea
that teamwork is immoral. The main Jewish holidays are dominated by
the recounting of Gentile persecutions, and the Holocaust has now
achieved almost a religious significance in Jewish life. Duke quotes
many Jewish leaders proclaiming Jewish superiority and the need for
the race to preserve its racial genotype. Even today, Israel will
grant instant citizenship to an atheist Jew from New York, but forbids
Palestinians who were born in Israel to return. Israel also forbids
marriages between Jews and Gentiles.
While Jewish supremacists have these supremacist policies for their
own people, they relentlessly work to break down the immigration laws
of other nations. While they preach multi-culturalism and diversity
for almost every other country in which they dwell, they themselves
support and expect Americans to support a Zionist State, dedicated
exclusively to the Jewish people, religion and culture.
INFLUENCE ON MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT
In chapters on Jewish influence over the American mass media and
government, Duke offers extensive documentation that exceeds almost
anyone's suspicions. Major Jewish sources are quoted which boast of
their takeover and control of Hollywood, the news media and the most
sensitive part of the Government of the United States. For instance,
Duke quotes a major Israeli newspaper bragging about the fact that
Jews loyal to Israel make up seven out of the eleven members of the
secretive and sensitive National Security Council (NSC). The article
goes on to assert that "America no longer has a government of Goyim"
(Gentiles). Duke also quotes many US presidents and high government
officials who have dared to speak out about the Jewish supremacy over
the establishment. After thoroughly documenting Jewish supremacy in
government and media, he shows how their media power is used to stifle
public knowledge and understanding of this critical issue. Any
legitimate criticism of Jewish Supremacism is labelled
'anti-Semitism', and the Jewish supremacists almost exclusively define
that term.
In particularly interesting passages, Duke recounts how that when he
looked up the term 'anti-Semitism' in some popular encyclopaedias, he
found that the articles and recommended reading lists were authored
entirely by Jewish zealots! In every conflict with Gentiles, Jews are
always portrayed as completely innocent while Gentiles are portrayed
as totally evil. Duke suggests that the chronic portrayal of Gentiles
as inherently evil toward Jews is for Gentiles the equivalent of
'blood libel' for Jews.
Duke makes a compelling case that the nation of Israel is the doctrine
of Jewish supremacism put into action. In startling documentary
evidence from Israel, he shows that some of the early Zionist founders
of the country readily co-operated with Nazi Germany, praised Nazi
policies and claimed that their own ideology was similar. He also
quotes major Jewish figures in Israel who have had the courage to
condemn Israel's Nuremberg style racial laws, such as former Israeli
Supreme Court member Haim Cohen, thus:-
'The bitter irony of fate, which has led the same biological and
racist laws propagated by the Nazis and which inspired the infamous
Nuremberg laws to serve as a basis of Judaism within the state of
Israel.'
With these kinds of powerful quotes, it is no wonder that Zionists
around the world are extremely fearful of this book.
ON ISRAELI TERROR
Americans will find the last chapter on Israel of particular interest.
Duke unveils the long Israeli record of terrorism. He documents the
horrendous terror waged against the Palestinians; he also exposes
Israel's long record of terrorism and treachery against its greatest
benefactor, the United States! From major Jewish sources, he recounts
the Israeli terrorist attacks against America in the Lavon Affair, in
which Israeli agents set off bombs in American installations in Egypt
in a treacherous attempt to provoke America into war against that
nation. Duke presents copious evidence exposing the deliberate,
murderous Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in which 34 Americans were
killed and 172 grievously wounded. The terrible damage inflicted on
the United States by Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard is also recounted.
Jewish supremacy in the American media and government has suppressed
any outcry against Israel's treachery. The Jewish supremacists have
even been able to prevent a formal Congressional investigation into
the attack on the USS Liberty. Duke makes the powerful point that
billions of dollars of American aid continue to flow to Israel even
after its treacherous attacks. He writes that supplying this aid is
the moral equivalent of sending military aid to Japan after the attack
on Pearl Harbour.
Duke also shows how the Zionist domination of American foreign policy
led directly to America's 9/11 catastrophe and a whole new series of
foreign policy moves that are leading to disaster. This timely book
shows the Jewish supremacist power behind the Iraq War, the
manipulation of the President and the American people with false
information, and the horrendous damage the war has done to our economy
and even our security. Duke shows how the war is costing us hundreds
of billions of dollars, continues to spill the blood of our military
men and certainly increases world hatred and terrorism against
America.
In one of the most shocking chapters of his work, Duke reveals the
damning evidence of Israeli treachery in the 9/11 attacks. He shows
that a massive Israeli spy ring was uncovered and apprehended in the
months before and after the attacks, and that some of the Mossad
agents had actually monitored the hijackers, including the leader
Mohammed Atta (five Israeli agents lived on his street). Warning
messages of the impending attacks were sent to Israeli firms with
offices both in Israel and the World Trade Centre. A group of Mossad
agents was arrested on 9/11 after they were found to have been filming
and cheering the attacks while they occurred. After they had been held
for a few months, Zionist Michael Chertoff of the US Department of
Justice released all the members of the Israeli spy ring and allowed
them to return to Israel - out of the reach of Congressional 9/11
investigators.
It is impossible to give the reader more than a glance into the depth
and power of this incredible book. Practically every paragraph is a
revelation. There is so much more that I could write about: detailing
how the Holocaust has cynically been used as a Zionist tool in
heightening Jewish solidarity and deflating criticism of Zionism and
Israel; how Jewish supremacists have used immigration as a weapon of
conquest, not only in Palestine but in the Western World as well. I
was fascinated by Duke's expose of Sigmund Freud as a secret Jewish
supremacist who thought of himself as a Hannibal destroying the
foundations of the Christian church and the European family as
Hannibal had sacked Rome. I could go on and on, but I will leave these
discoveries to you when you read this amazing book.
After I completed the book, I wanted to find out if it had the same
affect on others as it had on me. I gave it to two long-time friends
at the university where I taught for 11 years. One has conservative
leanings; the other is decidedly liberal; and I would describe both of
them as sympathetic to Israel. Both were so fascinated that they could
hardly put the book down, and one became so engrossed that he missed
his regular two o'clock class. They both agreed that Duke's book is
one of the best-argued that they have ever read, and used the
identical term of 'amazing' to describe it. My conservative friend
commented that many quotations were so shocking that he began to check
out the references and found them all to be accurate. "Hell" he said,
"If only half the documents Duke cites are authentic, there is enough
evidence here to start a revolution."


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Exposing the Real Racists
Edgar Johnston, PhD. reviews an important new book
Jewish Supremacism by David Duke. <snip>
LMAO! Well, you DO provide comic relief, at least.

Are you into Betty Crocker recipes as well?
Topaz
2008-02-10 16:12:39 UTC
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LMAO! Well, you DO provide comic relief, at least.
Are you into Betty Crocker recipes as well?
What our would-be masters plan for America is symbolized by what they
are planning for one of our country's minor commercial icons. In 1921,
the Washburn Crosby Company, manufacturer of baking goods, decided
they needed a spokeswoman to respond to the many questions they were
receiving in the mail from their customers. They borrowed a last name
from a retired member of their board of directors, "William Crocker,"
held a contest among their employees to choose a signature for her
(which is still used today), and named her, "Betty Crocker." In 1936,
her portrait was painted and her motherly image began to appear on the
company's millions of boxes in supermarkets across America. Her
portrait has been redone several times in the last 60 years, but two
things have remained constant: Betty has always worn red and she has
always been White. That last quality is about to change, according to
General Mills, which now owns the Betty Crocker brand.

A few years back, General Mills removed Betty Crocker's face from
their packages. She was apparently too White -- too suggestive of the
old America of manicured lawns, safe neighborhoods, high standards,
and Western culture -- to be acceptable to the trendy New World Order
camp followers in General Mills' boardroom.

The 75-year-old cultural icon had to go, regardless of its commercial
appeal.

But the trendies at General Mills have something worse in store for
us. They are going to put Betty back on their packages, alright. But
first, they are planning to create a new Betty Crocker. A non-White
Betty Crocker.

Oh, they're not man enough to come right out and say that's what
they're doing. No, they are cloaking it in all kinds of deceptive
verbiage. But making Betty Crocker into some kind of Third World
mongrel is exactly what they have in mind.

As a pretended celebration of Betty Crocker's 75th Anniversary,
General Mills is going to select 75 real women who are residents of
the United States, photograph them, and then digitally "morph" them
into one composite face which will become the new Betty Crocker. As
anyone with even a cursory knowledge of computer software knows, this
"morphing" process can yield almost any result desired by the computer
operator, and will not necessarily result in a statistical average of
the input images. And what will the computer operator be looking for?
According to the Wall Street Journal, "Since the contest is open to
would-be Bettys of all races... the hybrid homemaker is likely to
emerge with more politically correct features."

General Mills spokesman Craig Shulstad states, "We're hoping for
ethnic diversity, which is what's happening with homemakers and
society as a whole." According to the Capital-Times of Madison,
Wisconsin, "The resulting face, according to some diversity experts,
will be a woman with a slightly tan complexion, Asian-looking eyes,
and a slightly broader nose. .These features should appeal to the
growing Hispanic, Asian, and Black markets."

A White Betty Crocker is "offensive" to some. Apparently, according to
Russell Adams, chairman of African-American studies at Howard
University, a Black institution in occupied Washington, DC, a
mixed-race Betty Crocker wouldn't offend anyone. Well, General Mills,
I am offended.

In the early days of the post-World War II period, the advertising
agencies sold us on racial "integration" by showing us happy consumers
and schoolchildren, mostly White and all well-dressed, frolicking in
what still looked like the Old America, with just a few almost-White
mulattos around the edges, eating in our restaurants and playing in
our playgrounds. It was just a matter of "fairness" and letting a few
non-Whites in on our wonderful America. Nothing else about our country
would change. Why, who could object to that? Wicked ignorant bigoted
racists warned us then that Whites were the real minority in this
world and that the actual objective of the whole "civil rights"
program was to get our daughters Nicole Simpsoned and our sons Jeffrey
Dahmered, or, failing that, at least turn them against us and enlist
them in the revolution against White America through communist
brainwashing in the schools and the media.

Those wicked, ignorant, bigoted racists said that the real purpose of
the "integration" program was just that -- actual physical integration
of the races, sperm with egg, DNA with DNA, and so ushering in the
death of our race and nation. Those wicked, ignorant, bigoted racists!
How dare they be so right.

Well, the racemixing program is out in the open now. No advertising
agency, no department store, dares to issue a catalog or an ad without
including Black boys touching or fondling White girls or something of
the kind. If America's enemies had come right out with such images 30
or 40 years ago, their revolution would have met with serious
resistance. Today, a mongrel Betty Crocker tells everything about our
degradation without a single word. Who would have thought that Betty
Crocker would be the one to symbolize our planned demise, so neatly,
so commercially, so unfeelingly, so pathetically.


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Michael Ejercito
2008-02-10 23:33:32 UTC
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Post by Topaz
Well, the racemixing program is out in the open now. No advertising
agency, no department store, dares to issue a catalog or an ad without
including Black boys touching or fondling White girls or something of
the kind.
So what example of such a catalog do you have?


Michael
Governor Swill
2008-02-11 09:16:54 UTC
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Michael Ejercito <***@hotmail.com> used a stick in the sand to
babble
Post by Michael Ejercito
Post by Topaz
Well, the racemixing program is out in the open now. No advertising
agency, no department store, dares to issue a catalog or an ad without
including Black boys touching or fondling White girls or something of
the kind.
So what example of such a catalog do you have?
Michael
None. It's just the usual Topaz. Put it in your filters. Most of
the rest of us have.

Swill
Topaz
2008-02-11 22:44:49 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 04:16:54 -0500, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
babble
Post by Michael Ejercito
Post by Topaz
Well, the racemixing program is out in the open now. No advertising
agency, no department store, dares to issue a catalog or an ad without
including Black boys touching or fondling White girls or something of
the kind.
So what example of such a catalog do you have?
Michael
None. It's just the usual Topaz. Put it in your filters. Most of
the rest of us have.
That's like denying Black neighborhoods are more crime ridden that
White neighborhoods. People can see for themselves. Sensible people
can see that there is no point in talking to you two.

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http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/

http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
Gandalf Grey
2008-02-11 23:11:42 UTC
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Post by Topaz
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 04:16:54 -0500, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
babble
Post by Michael Ejercito
Post by Topaz
Well, the racemixing program is out in the open now. No advertising
agency, no department store, dares to issue a catalog or an ad without
including Black boys touching or fondling White girls or something of
the kind.
So what example of such a catalog do you have?
Michael
None. It's just the usual Topaz. Put it in your filters. Most of
the rest of us have.
That's like denying Black neighborhoods are more crime ridden that
White neighborhoods.
Nah. It's just like admitting that nazis are nazis. And you, sir, are a
nazi; a card-carrying worshiper of one of the most evil philosophies the
world has ever known. What's really sad here is that you're so stupified by
your hate that you don't even realized exactly how low you are and how
ashamed you should be.
Topaz
2008-02-12 00:49:22 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:11:42 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"
Post by Gandalf Grey
Nah. It's just like admitting that nazis are nazis. And you, sir, are a
nazi; a card-carrying worshiper of one of the most evil philosophies the
world has ever known.
The Jews control your media and your mind.


Here is part of Hitler's speech at Rheinmetall-Borsig Works, Berlin,
on December 10, 1940:

"In this Anglo-French world there exists, as it were, democracy, which
means the rule of the people by the people. Now the people must
possess some means of giving expression to their thoughts or their
wishes. Examining this problem more closely, we see that the people
themselves have originally no convictions of their own. Their
convictions are formed, of course, just as everywhere else. The
decisive question is who enlightens the people, who educates them? In
those countries, it is actually capital that rules; that is, nothing
more than a clique of a few hundred men who possess untold wealth and,
as a consequence of the peculiar structure of their national life, are
more or less independent and free. They say: 'Here we have liberty.'
By this they mean, above all, an uncontrolled economy, and by an
uncontrolled economy, the freedom not only to acquire capital but to
make absolutely free use of it. That means freedom from national
control or control by the people both in the acquisition of capital
and in its employment. This is really what they mean when they speak
of liberty. These capitalists create their own press and then speak of
the 'freedom of the press.'

In reality, every one of the newspapers has a master, and in every
case this master is the capitalist, the owner. This master, not the
editor, is the one who directs the policy of the paper. If the editor
tries to write other than what suits the master, he is ousted the next
day. This press, which is the absolutely submissive and characterless
slave of the owners, molds public opinion. Public opinion thus
mobilized by them is, in its turn, split up into political parties.
The difference between these parties is as small as it formerly was in
Germany. You know them, of course - the old parties. They were always
one and the same. In Britain matters are usually so arranged that
families are divided up, one member being a conservative, another a
liberal, and a third belonging to the labor party. Actually, all three
sit together as members of the family, decide upon their common
attitude and determine it. A further point is that the 'elected
people' actually form a community which operates and controls all
these organizations. For this reason, the opposition in England is
really always the same, for on all essential matters in which the
opposition has to make itself felt, the parties are always in
agreement. They have one and the same conviction and through the
medium of the press mold public opinion along corresponding lines. One
might well believe that in these countries of liberty and riches, the
people must possess an unlimited degree of prosperity. But no! On the
contrary, it is precisely in these countries that the distress of the
masses is greater than anywhere else. Such is the case in 'rich
Britain.'

She controls sixteen million square miles. In India, for example, a
hundred million colonial workers with a wretched standard of living
must labor for her. One might think, perhaps, that at least in England
itself every person must have his share of these riches. By no means!
In that country class distinction is the crassest imaginable. There is
poverty - incredible poverty - on the one side, and equally incredible
wealth on the other. They have not solved a single problem. The
workmen of that country which possesses more than one-sixth of the
globe and of the world's natural resources dwell in misery, and the
masses of the people are poorly clad.. In a country which ought to
have more than enough bread and every sort of fruit, we find millions
of the lower classes who have not even enough to fill their stomachs,
and go about hungry. A nation which could provide work for the whole
world must acknowledge the fact that it cannot even abolish
unemployment at home. For decades this rich Britain has had two and a
half million unemployed; rich America, ten to thirteen millions, year
after year; France, six, seven, and eight hundred thousand. Well, my
fellow-countrymen - what then are we to say about ourselves?
It is self-evident that where this democracy rules, the people as such
are not taken into consideration at all. The only thing that matters
is the existence of a few hundred gigantic capitalists who own all the
factories and their stock and, through them, control the people. The
masses of the people do not interest them in the least. They are
interested in them just as were our bourgeois parties in former times
- only when elections are being held, when they need votes. Otherwise,
the life of the masses is a matter of complete indifference to them.

To this must be added the difference in education. Is it not ludicrous
to hear a member of the British Labor Party - who, of course, as a
member of the Opposition is officially paid by the government - say:
'When the war is over, we will do something in social respects'?
It is the members of Parliament who are the directors of the business
concerns - just as used to be the case with us. But we have abolished
all that. A member of the Reichstag cannot belong to a Board of
Directors, except as a purely honorary member. He is prohibited from
accepting any emolument, financial or otherwise. This is not the case
in other countries.

They reply: 'That is why our form of government is sacred to us.' I
can well believe it, for that form of government certainly pays very
well.. But whether it is sacred to the mass of the people as well is
another matter.

The people as a whole definitely suffer. I do not consider it possible
in the long run for one man to work and toil for a whole year in
return for ridiculous wages, while another jumps into an express train
once a year and pockets enormous sums. Such conditions are a disgrace.
On the other hand, we National Socialists equally oppose the theory
that all men are equals. Today, when a man of genius makes some
astounding invention and enormously benefits his country by his
brains, we pay him his due, for he has really accomplished something
and been of use to his country. However, we hope to make it impossible
for idle drones to inhabit this country.

I could continue to cite examples indefinitely. The fact remains that
two worlds are face to face with one another. Our opponents are quite
right when they say: 'Nothing can reconcile us to the National
Socialist world.' How could a narrow-minded capitalist ever agree to
my principles? It would be easier for the Devil to go to church and
cross himself with holy water than for these people to comprehend the
ideas which are accepted facts to us today. But we have solved our
problems.

To take another instance where we are condemned: They claim to be
fighting for the maintenance of the gold standard as the currency
basis. That I can well believe, for the gold is in their hands. We,
too, once had gold, but it was stolen and extorted from us. When I
came to power, it was not malice which made me abandon the gold
standard. Germany simply had no gold left. Consequently, quitting the
gold standard presented no difficulties, for it is always easy to part
with what one does not have. We had no gold. We had no foreign
exchange. They had all been stolen and extorted from us during the
previous fifteen years. But, my fellow countrymen, I did not regret
it, for we have constructed our economic system on a wholly different
basis. In our eyes, gold is not of value in itself. It is only an
agent by which nations can be suppressed and dominated.
When I took over the government, I had only one hope on which to
build, namely, the efficiency and ability of the German nation and the
German workingman; the intelligence of our inventors, engineers,
technicians, chemists, and so forth. I built on the strength which
animates our economic system. One simple question faced me: Are we to
perish because we have no gold; am I to believe in a phantom which
spells our destruction? I championed the opposite opinion: Even though
we have no gold, we have capacity for work.

The German capacity for work is our gold and our capital, and with
this gold I can compete successfully with any power in the world. We
want to live in houses which have to be built. Hence, the workers must
build them, and the raw materials required must be procured by work.
My whole economic system has been built up on the conception of work.
We have solved our problems while, amazingly enough, the capitalist
countries and their currencies have suffered bankruptcy.

Sterling can find no market today. Throw it at any one and he will
step aside to avoid being hit. But our Reichsmark, which is backed by
no gold, has remained stable. Why? It has no gold cover; it is backed
by you and by your work. You have helped me to keep the mark stable.
German currency, with no gold coverage, is worth more today than gold
itself. It signifies unceasing production. This we owe to the German
farmer, who has worked from daybreak till nightfall. This we owe to
the German worker, who has given us his whole strength. The whole
problem has been solved in one instant, as if by magic.
My dear friends, if I had stated publicly eight or nine years ago: 'In
seven or eight years the problem of how to provide work for the
unemployed will be solved, and the problem then will be where to find
workers,' I should have harmed my cause. Every one would have
declared: 'The man is mad. It is useless to talk to him, much less to
support him. Nobody should vote for him. He is a fantastic creature.'
Today, however, all this has come true. Today, the only question for
us is where to find workers. That, my fellow countrymen, is the
blessing which work brings.

Work alone can create new work; money cannot create work. Work alone
can create values, values with which to reward those who work. The
work of one man makes it possible for another to live and continue to
work. And when we have mobilized the working capacity of our people to
its utmost, each individual worker will receive more and more of the
world's goods.

We have incorporated seven million unemployed into our economic
system; we have transformed another six millions from part-time into
full-time workers; we are even working overtime. And all this is paid
for in cash in Reichsmarks which maintained their value in peacetime.
In wartime we had to ration its purchasing capacity, not in order to
devalue it, but simply to earmark a portion of our industry for war
production to guide us to victory in the struggle for the future of
Germany...

One thing is certain, my fellow-countrymen: All in all, we have today
a state with a different economic and political orientation from that
of the Western democracies.
Well, it must now be made possible for the British worker to travel.
It is remarkable that they should at last hit upon the idea that
traveling should be something not for millionaires alone, but for the
people too. In this country, the problem was solved some time ago. In
the other countries - as is shown by their whole economic structure -
the selfishness of a relatively small stratum rules under the mask of
democracy. This stratum is neither checked nor controlled by anyone.

It is therefore understandable if an Englishman says: 'We do not want
our world to be subject to any sort of collapse.' Quite so. The
English know full well that their Empire is not menaced by us. But
they say quite truthfully: 'If the ideas that are popular in Germany
are not completely eliminated, they might become popular among our own
people, and that is the danger. We do not want this.' It would do no
harm if they did become popular there, but these people are just as
narrow-minded as many once were in Germany. In this respect they
prefer to remain bound to their conservative methods. They do not wish
to depart from them, and do not conceal the fact.

They say, 'The German methods do not suit us at all.'
And what are these methods? You know, my comrades, that I have
destroyed nothing in Germany. I have always proceeded very carefully,
because I believe - as I have already said - that we cannot afford to
wreck anything. I am proud that the Revolution of 1933 was brought to
pass without breaking a single windowpane. Nevertheless, we have
wrought enormous changes.

I wish to put before you a few basic facts: The first is that in the
capitalistic democratic world the most important principle of economy
is that the people exist for trade and industry, and that these in
turn exist for capital. We have reversed this principle by making
capital exist for trade and industry, and trade and industry exist for
the people. In other words, the people come first. Everything else is
but a means to this end. When an economic system is not capable of
feeding and clothing a people, then it is bad, regardless of whether a
few hundred people say: 'As far as I am concerned it is good,
excellent; my dividends are splendid.'

However, the dividends do not interest me at all. Here we have drawn
the line. They may then retort: 'Well, look here, that is just what we
mean. You jeopardize liberty.'
Yes, certainly, we jeopardize the liberty to profiteer at the expense
of the community, and, if necessary, we even abolish it. British
capitalists, to mention only one instance, can pocket dividends of 76,
80, 95, 140, and even 160 per cent from their armament industry.
Naturally they say: 'If the German methods grow apace and should prove
victorious, this sort of thing will stop.'

They are perfectly right. I should never tolerate such a state of
affairs. In my eyes, a 6 per cent dividend is sufficient. Even from
this 6 per cent we deduct one-half and, as for the rest, we must have
definite proof that it is invested in the interest of the country as a
whole. In other words, no individual has the right to dispose
arbitrarily of money which ought to be invested for the good of the
country. If he disposes of it sensibly, well and good; if not, the
National Socialist state will intervene.

To take another instance, besides dividends there are the so-called
directors' fees. You probably have no idea how appallingly active a
board of directors is. Once a year its members have to make a journey.
They have to go to the station, get into a first-class compartment and
travel to some place or other. They arrive at an appointed office at
about 10 or 11 A.M. There they must listen to a report. When the
report has been read, they must listen to a few comments on it. They
may be kept in their seats until 1 P.M. or even 2. Shortly after 2
o'clock they rise from their chairs and set out on their homeward
journey, again, of course, traveling first class. It is hardly
surprising that they claim 3,000, 4,000, or even 5,000 as compensation
for this: Our directors formerly did the same - for what a lot of time
it costs them! Such effort had to be made worth while! Of course, we
have got rid of all this nonsense, which was merely veiled
profiteering and even bribery.
In Germany, the people, without any doubt, decide their existence.
They determine the principles of their government. In fact it has been
possible in this country to incorporate many of the broad masses into
the National Socialist party, that gigantic organization embracing
millions and having millions of officials drawn from the people
themselves. This principle is extended to the highest ranks.

For the first time in German history, we have a state which has
absolutely abolished all social prejudices in regard to political
appointments as well as in private life. I myself am the best proof of
this. Just imagine: I am not even a lawyer, and yet I am your Leader!
It is not only in ordinary life that we have succeeded in appointing
the best among the people for every position. We have
Reichsstatthalters who were formerly agricultural laborers or
locksmiths. Yes, we have even succeeded in breaking down prejudice in
a place where it was most deep-seated -in the fighting forces.
Thousands of officers are being promoted from the ranks today. We have
done away with prejudice. We have generals who were ordinary soldiers
and noncommissioned officers twenty-two and twenty-three years ago. In
this instance, too, we have overcome all social obstacles. Thus, we
are building up our life for the future.

As you know we have countless schools, national political educational
establishments, Adolf Hitler schools, and so on. To these schools we
send gifted children of the broad masses, children of working men,
farmers' sons whose parents could never have afforded a higher
education for their children. We take them in gradually. They are
educated here, sent to the Ordensburgen, to the Party, later to take
their place in the State where they will some day fill the highest
posts....

Opposed to this there stands a completely different world. In the
world the highest ideal is the struggle for wealth, for capital, for
family possessions, for personal egoism; everything else is merely a
means to such ends. Two worlds confront each other today. We know
perfectly well that if we are defeated in this war it would not only
be the end of our National Socialist work of reconstruction, but the
end of the German people as a whole. For without its powers of
coordination, the German people would starve. Today the masses
dependent on us number 120 or 130 millions, of which 85 millions alone
are our own people. We remain ever aware of this fact.

On the other hand, that other world says: 'If we lose, our world-wide
capitalistic system will collapse. For it is we who save hoarded gold.
It is lying in our cellars and will lose its value. If the idea that
work is the decisive factor spreads abroad, what will happen to us? We
shall have bought our gold in vain. Our whole claim to world dominion
can then no longer be maintained. The people will do away with their
dynasties of high finance. They will present their social claims, and
the whole world system will be overthrown.'
I can well understand that they declare: 'Let us prevent this at all
costs; it must be prevented.' They can see exactly how our nation has
been reconstructed. You see it clearly. For instance, there we see a
state ruled by a numerically small upper class. They send their sons
to their own schools, to Eton. We have Adolf Hitler schools or
national political educational establishments. On the one hand, the
sons of plutocrats, financial magnates; on the other, the children of
the people. Etonians and Harrovians exclusively in leading positions
over there; in this country, men of the people in charge of the State.
These are the two worlds. I grant that one of the two must succumb.
Yes, one or the other. But if we were to succumb, the German people
would succumb with us. If the other were to succumb, I am convinced
that the nations will become free for the first time. We are not
fighting individual Englishmen or Frenchmen. We have nothing against
them. For years I proclaimed this as the aim of my foreign policy. We
demanded nothing of them, nothing at all. When they started the war
they could not say: 'We are doing so because the Germans asked this or
that of us.' They said, on the contrary: 'We are declaring war on you
because the German system of Government does not suit us; because we
fear it might spread to our own people.' For that reason they are
carrying on this war. They wanted to blast the German nation back to
the time of Versailles, to the indescribable misery of those days. But
they have made a great mistake.

If in this war everything points to the fact that gold is fighting
against work, capitalism against peoples, and reaction against the
progress of humanity, then work, the peoples, and progress will be
victorious. Even the support of the Jewish race will not avail the
others.

I have seen all this coming for years. What did I ask of the other
world? Nothing but the right for Germans to reunite and the
restoration of all that had been taken from them - nothing which would
have meant a loss to the other nations. How often have I stretched out
my hand to them? Ever since I came into power. I had not the slightest
wish to rearm.
For what do armaments mean? They absorb so much labor. It was I who
regarded work as being of decisive importance, who wished to employ
the working capacity of Germany for other plans. I think the news is
already out that, after all, I have some fairly important plans in my
mind, vast and splendid plans for my people. It is my ambition to make
the German people rich and to make the German homeland beautiful. I
want the standard of living of the individual raised. I want us to
have the most beautiful and the finest civilization. I should like the
theater - in fact, the whole of German civilization - to benefit all
the people and not to exist only for the upper ten thousand, as is the
case in England.

The plans which we had in mind were tremendous, and I needed workers
in order to realize them. Armament only deprives me of workers. I made
proposals to limit armaments. I was ridiculed. The only answer I
received was 'No.' I proposed the limitation of certain types of
armament. That was refused. I proposed that airplanes should be
altogether eliminated from warfare. That also was refused. I suggested
that bombers should be limited. That was refused. They said: 'That is
just how we wish to force our regime upon you.' ...



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Gandalf Grey
2008-02-12 01:12:01 UTC
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Post by Topaz
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:11:42 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"
Post by Gandalf Grey
Nah. It's just like admitting that nazis are nazis. And you, sir, are a
nazi; a card-carrying worshiper of one of the most evil philosophies the
world has ever known.
The Jews control your media and your mind.
Hatred controls your mind, "Topaz" Hatred and virulent bigotry. It drove
your Fuhrer insane and it reduced Germany to rubble.

That's the problem with you nazis. There's so much hatred in your mind that
there's no room for a useful thought.
Topaz
2008-02-13 01:24:54 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:12:01 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"
Post by Gandalf Grey
Hatred controls your mind, "Topaz" Hatred and virulent bigotry. It drove
your Fuhrer insane and it reduced Germany to rubble.
Germany was only destroyed by the evil allies.


From a German pamphlet:

Do you remember the state of Germany and the German people in the days
before the aged Reich President von Hindenburg chose Adolf Hitler and
his party as the last hope of saving Germany from certain political,
social and economic collapse that would lead to chaos? Tens of
thousands of factories had closed their gates. Millions of workers and
employees lost their jobs and were thrown ruthlessly into the gray
misery of mass unemployment. There seemed no way out...
By the end of 1933, 2 million citizens had jobs again. By September
1936, the number of unemployed had fallen beneath a million. By 1937
unemployment had vanished...
One of the foundations of National Socialism is the knowledge that
only work creates value and prosperity...
But not only the dreadful misery before 1933 reduced the desire of
countless Germans to have children. Crass egotism and materialism also
played a role. The System Era saw having children as foolish and
backward. The transformation that has occurred is clear in the rising
German birth rate...
The National Socialist state gives major tax reductions to fathers for
each child. Families with three or more children receive payments of
10 and 20 marks monthly. By the end of 1937, 510,000 children were
receiving such support...
By the end of 1937, 252,000 mothers had received free vacations...
The Winterhilfswerk is the most beautiful expression of the new German
people's community. It is not the work of a small group of rich
people. No, each German, all of us, rich and poor, manual laborers,
farmers and city-dwellers cooperate in fulfilling the Führer's will:
No German may be hungry or cold!
One does not know whom to admire more: the cheerful willingness of
those who collect, or the rising amount of the gifts, to which even
the poorest contribute their share. The success of the
Winterhilfswerk, written permanently into the law of 1 December 1936,
demonstrates the efforts of the entire German nation. Gifts of money
alone totaled over 920 million marks during the four winters from
1933/34 to 1936/37. An additional 570 million marks of goods were
contributed. 50,000 freight cars alone would have been needed for the
potatoes contributed in the past years. The three million meters of
clothing given out by the WHW would stretch from Berlin to the Middle
East. The two million kilograms of coal would form a wall ten meters
high around all of Germany. These few examples, and more could be
given, prove the strength of the German people's will to be active
socialists..
Another sign of this socialism is the entirely different status of the
German worker in factories. The social honor of each working German is
guaranteed by law. The state's representatives ensure that exploiting
workers is impossible. The legal working conditions correspond to
National Socialism's high opinion of work. Workers have a right to a
vacation and for paid holidays, even hourly and temporary workers.
There is nothing like this elsewhere in the world.
The dignity of labor is evidenced by improvements in the appearance of
the work place. Wherever one looks in Germany, ugly dark buildings are
vanishing. The "Beauty of Labor" movement in today's Germany is not
empty talk or an impossible demand, but living reality. Large sums
that formerly would have been wasted in strikes and lockouts have been
used since 1933 to improve work places. 23,000 places have been
transformed form soulless drudgery to pleasant places to work. 6,000
factory courtyards now offer space for real relaxation, which was not
true in the past. 17,000 canteens and lounges, 13,000 shower and
changing rooms have been transformed. The dirtier the work, the
cleaner the workers. More than 800 community buildings and 1200 sport
facilities , including over 200 swimming pools, have been established.
The crew quarters in over 3500 ships have also been improved.
The NS Society Kraft durch Freude brings cheer and pleasure to
workplaces through concerts and art exhibits. The art exhibits alone
introduced more than 2,5 million workers to the creations of true
German art. Just five years ago, it was obvious that the great works
of German culture belonged to a small group of the upper class.
Besides the factory concerns and art exhibitions, the NS Society Kraft
durch Freude uses theatrical performances, other concerts, singing and
musical groups to introduce the creations of German art to every
working German. 22 million citizens have attended theatrical
performances..
Of no less importance is the KdF's vacation program. Earlier, German
workers did not know what to do with their, at best, five days of
annual vacation. They could not visit the beauties of the German
landscape, much less travel abroad. The NS Society Kraft durch Freude
gave German workers the possibility of vacationing at the beach or in
the mountains, or to explore the homeland. Over 20 million have
participated in KdF trips since 1934. That is more than a quarter of
Germany's population. 19 million citizens participated in 60,000
vacation trips at home. Hand to hand, they would stretch from Berlin
to Tokyo. KdF trains have traveled 2,160,000 kilometers, or 54 times
around the world. The nine large KdF cruise ships have covered a
distance equal to twice the distance from the earth to the moon. They
have carried German workers to Madeira, Italy and Norway, broadening
their horizons and giving them unforgettable experiences. Three
additional ships will be added the KdF's own fleet of four. A KdF
resort is being built on the island of Rügen. It will not be the only
one. A series of other vacation and spa resorts will be built. They
will fulfill the Führer's wishes at the start of the NS Society Kraft
durch Freude: to lead a cheerful, creative and strong people to
success in the world.
The goal of bringing German culture to the entire German people,
regardless of their income, is especially clear with the German radio.
Thanks to the People's Radio Set, a solid, inexpensive and capable
receiver, the number of radio listeners has risen from around 4
million in 1932 to 9.1 million today. The un-German programming of the
System Era has been transformed by National Socialism. Now radio
acquaints the German people with the work of their great masters of
music and literature. Alongside these artistic programs, the
entertaining programming provides for the relaxation of hard-working
people.
Clear proof for the rising prosperity of the German people is provided
by the growing consumption of foodstuffs and luxury items of every
variety. During the prewar year 1913, only a little more than 2.9
million tons of meat were consumed. In 1937, that figure had risen to
3.7 million, up about 5% from 1932. Thanks to the elimination of
unemployment, bread consumption increased by about 10%, sugar by 15%.
Butter consumption rose from 420,000 to 519,000 tons. Milk production,
both for drinking and for making butter and cheese, rose from 23.5 to
25.4 billion liters from 1932 to 1937. Coffee consumption rose from
104,000 to 140,000 tons. Beer consumption has risen from 3.3 to 4.4
billion liters. That is an increase of about 3 billion glasses of
beer...
The growing prosperity and rising consumption of foodstuffs and luxury
items required hard work. A people can only consume what it produces.
In the face of this obvious truth, which however only became clear to
us after 1933, all the parliamentary resolutions, all the decisions of
international conferences and the demands of the international unions
become silly talk. The German people have proved that by our own work.
Germany has worked untiringly since 1933, producing itself the goods
it needs to improve its standard of living.
The rising production in all areas, which has never before been seen,
is the fruit of our work. The foundation of our life is agriculture,
whose task is to guarantee that the nation is fed. When the Führer
took power, agriculture was in a ruinous state. Officers of the court
were regular visitors at German farms. The animals and the harvest
were seized ruthlessly because taxes and interests had risen to
impossible levels that German soil could not meet. Forced auctions
drove tens of thousands of German farmers from their land. Desperation
prevailed in the villages. As a result of the desperate situation,
agriculture could not ensure the feeding of the German nation. The
ghost of hunger threatened.
Here too the Führer set to work immediately. Interest and taxes were
lowered, and the German soil was freed from usurious capital. Between
1927 and 1931, German agricultural debt rose by 2,9 billion marks.
From 1933 to 1936, it fell by 800 million marks. The interest burden,
which was over a billion marks in 1931/32, was reduced by National
Socialist actions to 630 million marks. The crowning achievement was
the creation of the Reich Inherited Farm Law, which guaranteed that
the German family farm will always remain the wellspring of the
nation...
Just as for farmers and agricultural workers, the urban population is
also being cared for. Although more than enough willing and able
workers were available in 1932, and although the housing need was
certainly great, the government put workers on the dole and built only
141,265 dwellings. This was an area in which the need for new jobs was
particularly clear. Even in 1933, the number of new dwellings rose to
178,000, with particular attention being given to small and mid-sized
units for those with limited incomes. This number grew year by year,
reaching 340,000 dwellings in 1937, double the number of 1932. In all,
National Socialist has built more than 1.4 million new, and above all
healthy and affordable, dwellings for the German people since 1933.
This is enough to house the entire population of Berlin...
Growing prosperity and production led to a growth in traffic. The
entirely neglected German highway system had to be repaired and
expanded. 40,000 kilometers of highway have been repaired since 1933.
That is enough to go all the way around the world! Then there are the
Reich Autobahns, the most splendid construction project in the world.
2,000 kilometers were open to traffic by the end of 1937. 1,000
kilometers more will be added yearly, until Germany has a highway
network unique in all the world.
Automobile production has reached a level that no one would have
thought possible a few years ago.
The number of motor vehicles in Germany has doubled, exceeding the 3
million mark in 1937. Thanks to the growing prosperity, broad circles
of our nation can now afford a car. 137,141 of the new vehicles in
1937, well over half, were purchased by workers and employees. 30,015
workers and employees were able to buy a car the previous year. Cars
are becoming both better and cheaper. The increase in cars will be
even more striking when the Volkswagen comes on the market. Enormous
factories are even now being built. The best proof for the quality and
good pricing of German cars is the fact that automobile exports have
increased by a factor of eight since 1932!..
The great improvements in the German transportation system have
resulted in a growing stream of foreign visitors. The pulsing life in
Germany is drawing more and more visitors to the Third Reich. The
number of overnights by foreigners has risen from 2.7 million in 1932
is far above 7 million in 1937. These foreigners, who often come to
Germany with false ideas, see with their own eyes the work of the
Führer and the remarkable efforts of the German people. They return
home as the best witnesses of the greatness and strength of the German
Reich...
The Führer has repeatedly reminded the German people that strong
policies are the absolute prerequisite to our economic, social and
cultural health. Only intentional hostility and stupidity can still
deny that the Führer was right in every respect...
Post by Gandalf Grey
That's the problem with you nazis. There's so much hatred in your mind that
there's no room for a useful thought.
Why They Hate Us
by Joseph Sobran

Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so
large as to be almost inexpressible. It's Western
exploration, science, and conquest that have revealed the
world to itself. Other races feel like subjects of Western
power long after colonialism, imperialism, and slavery have
disappeared. The charge of racism puzzles whites who feel
not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they
don't grasp what it really means: humiliation. The white
man presents an image of superiority even when he isn't
conscious of it. And superiority excites envy. Destroying
white civilization is the inmost desire of the league of
designated victims we call 'minorities.'

From Sobran's Newsletter, April 1997



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Gandalf Grey
2008-02-13 01:47:50 UTC
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Post by Topaz
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:12:01 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"
Post by Gandalf Grey
Hatred controls your mind, "Topaz" Hatred and virulent bigotry. It drove
your Fuhrer insane and it reduced Germany to rubble.
Germany was only destroyed by the evil allies.
Since the United States of America was one of those "evil allies" thanks for
making your antiamericanism very plain to all of us.

As for the Evil Reich of Adolf Hitler being brought about with America in
the lead, I can't think of anything, other than the Revolution my ancestors
fought in, that makes me more proud of being an American. A coward to the
end, they say Der Fuhrur both bit into a cyanide capsule and blew his brains
out after testing the poison on his "beloved" dog just to make sure it would
work. Sad for the dog, but unfortunately, dogs have never been the best
judges of character.

It makes me feel immensely happy to believe that Herr Hitler had a moment or
two to feel the exquisite pain caused by the same poison he had so happily
administered to millions of human beings who had so much more of a right to
live than he did. It's about the only thing that makes me wish that
classical Christianity might be true. Because if it is, there's a Hell, and
if there's a Hell, the lowest circle of that place features Adolf Hitler
suffering in eternal agony.

And when you die, "Topaz", I fervently hope that you are allowed to go and
be with your Fuhrer.

Have a nice day, nazi.
Topaz
2008-02-13 02:11:08 UTC
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:47:50 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"
Post by Gandalf Grey
Since the United States of America was one of those "evil allies" thanks for
making your antiamericanism very plain to all of us.
As for the Evil Reich of Adolf Hitler
By Walter Ruthard

I myself was brought up in a small village in the southwest of
Germany. In 1939, when the war broke out, we left for the less exposed
Odenwald area until the possible danger of a French invasion had
passed. Shortly after that my father was transferred to the Ruhr
region. He as requested work as a foreman for the Mauser arms factory.
The government, true to their claims to be national and socialist,
took their promises seriously and provided young people starting a
family, as well as those who already had children, with affordable
housing. The first child brought a reduction of the mortgage by 25
percent, and when the fourth child arrived the mortgage was no more.
My parents already had four children then and thus were eligible for a
free newly built house from the government.

This was but one of the many programs the government established in
order to improve the quality of life for its citizens..

Then there was the "Kinderlandverschickung" program. It was started
before the war and enabled mothers in need of recreation to spend some
time in rural settings together with their children..

Another very popular social program of the government was "Kraft
durch Freude" (strength through joy). Here deserving workers could
take all-inclusive tours on luxury liners that were built especially
for this purpose. On these ships there was only one class and
everybody was treated the same. They visited the Azores and
Spitsbergen among other places. Those ships were not allowed to dock
in and English port however. The reason was that the British
government did not want it's citizens to see what it also could have
done for them..

The most misinterpreted program in Germany was the so-called
"Lebensborn". It was the exact opposite of what people are made to
believe it was, or should I say, of what people like to believe.. The
Lebensborn was the institution to help unwed mothers who did not know
where to turn for help. They were taken care of during their
pregnancies and afterward as well. This was the Lebensborn, and any
other interpretation is plain hogwash..

My father was able to buy not one but three guns plus two pistols,
together with plenty of ammunition. All it took him was proof that he
was indeed a German citizen without a criminal record. Then in 1945,
when the French "liberated" us, they disarmed him. I know that he was
not the only one to have guns at home, because I saw the many, many
arms that were handed over to the French, and this was in a very small
village..

Then, after the war was over, we had our first experience with a real
democracy. The French introduced it and gave us some shining examples;
one was that the lived off the country and stole everything which
wasn't nailed down..

It was not until many years later that I learned that Hitler held at
least five plebiscites during the first half of his rule. In
democratic Germany, from 1945 until today there has never been a
plebiscite.

There were foreign workers employed in Germany during WWII. I knew
one of them. He worked on a farm and was treated exactly like the son
who was in the army. After the war he stayed on and married the
daughter of the house. He was a prisoner of war from Poland and I
never saw him guarded by any policeman. This is how foreigners were
treated in Germany. They earned the same wages as the Germans, they
took part in the social insurance program, had paid-for holidays
including free train fares, and many came back with friends who also
wanted to work for these "horrible" Germans. Today they are called
slave laborer.

Not everyone was entitled to go on to a university. Only good marks
and above-average performance in schools qualified. But good
performers were promoted with all means available. Today we are much
more democratic; everyone is entitled to a university education and if
the parents are wealthy enough, the son or daughter can study until
they are 35..

Germany was also the country to introduce, in 1933, the first-ever
comprehensive animal protection law. Farm animals had to be kept in
strictly natural environments and no animal factories were allowed. Of
course, no testing of products on animals was permitted, and no kosher
slaughter.

If new industrial facilities were built they had to conform to the
highest standards with adequate lighting and air inside, canteens
where the workers were served nutritious meals at affordable prices,
and beautiful lawns outside: all for the benefit of the workers.. In
national socialist Germany, no child labor was allowed as it still was
in other European countries.


And finally, although I could still go on for a while, I would like to
mention that on express orders from Hitler himself, it was strictly
forbidden to use corporal punishment in the army. He was of the
opinion that in was incompatible with the honor of a German to be
punished by such degrading means.

That was the Germany I grew up in, and I am glad that I did.
Post by Gandalf Grey
being brought about with America in
the lead, I can't think of anything, other than the Revolution my ancestors
fought in, that makes me more proud of being an American. A coward to the
end, they say Der Fuhrur both bit into a cyanide capsule and blew his brains
out after testing the poison on his "beloved" dog just to make sure it would
work. Sad for the dog, but unfortunately, dogs have never been the best
judges of character.
German leaders believed in death before dishonor. They knew the
allies were subhuman monsters:


Eyewitness account by Mrs. Leonora Geier (nee Cavoa, born Oct 22,
1925, Sao Paulo,
Brazil) to Dr. Trutz Foelsche, Ph.D

Deutsche Nationalzeitung, No. 17-65, p. 7:

"On the morning of February, 16, (1945) a Russian detachment
occupied the RAD
(Reichsarbeitsdienst) camp Vilmsee near Neustettin. The Commissar told
me in good
German language that the camp was dissolved and that we, as a unit
with uniforms (RAD - German Labour Service, not military uniforms),
would be transported to a collection camp. Since I, as a Brazilian
citizen, belong to an allied nation, he asked me to take over
as a leader of the transport that went to Neustettin, into the yard of
the former iron factory. We were about 500 girls (Maidens of the
Reichsarbeitsdienst - German Labour Service).

He said I could come into the orderly room, which I accepted.
Immediately he directed
me to make no further contact with other women, because they were
members of an illegal army. On my response that this what not true, he
cut me off with the remark that I would be shot immediately, if I
would repeat in any form a similar statement.

"Suddenly I heard loud screams, and promptly five girls were brought
in by the two Red Armists. The Commissar ordered them to undress. When
they, in a sense of shame, refused to do so, he ordered me to undress
them and follow him with the girls. We walked through the yard to the
former factory kitchen, which was completely cleared out
except for some tables along the window wall. It was dreadfully cold
and the unfortunate girls trembled. In the huge tiled room several
Russians waited for us who were obviously making obscene remarks
because every word was followed by loud laughter.
The Commissar then directed me to watch how one makes sissies out of
'The Master Race'.
Now two Poles, clad in trousers only, entered the room. At their
sight the girls cried out.
Briskly, they seized the first of the two girls and bent her over with
her back over the edge of the table until her joints cracked. I almost
fainted when one of the men pulled his knife and cut off her right
breast in the presence of the other girls. I have never heard a
human being scream as desperately as this young woman. After this
'operation' both men stabbed her several times in the abdomen,
accompanied by the howling of the Russians.
The next girl cried for mercy, in vain, since she was exceptionally
pretty. I had the impression that the 'work' was carried out very
slowly. The other three girls were completely broken down, cried for
their mothers and begged for a speedy death, but also
fate them overtook.
The last of the girls was still half a child, with barely developed
breasts, one tore the
flesh literally from her ribs until the white bone appeared.
Again, five girls were brought in. This time, they had been selected
carefully. All were
developed and pretty. When they saw the bodies of their predecessors,
they began to cry and scream. Weak as they were, they tried to defend
themselves but to no avail; the Poles became more cruel every time.
One of the girls, they cut open her womb and trunk over the whole
length; poured a can of machine oil into the mutilated body and tried
to set fire
to it. Another was shot in the genitals by a Russia, before they cut
off her breasts.
A great howling began when someone brought a saw from a toolbox.
Now, using the saw, they set to work to the breasts of the girls to
pieces, which in a short period of time
led to the floor being covered with blood. A blood rage seized the
Russians. Continuously
one of them brought more and more girls.
Like a red fog, I saw the gruesome happenings again and again and I
perceived the inhuman screaming at the torture of their breasts and
the load groaning at the mutilation of their private parts. When my
legs failed me I was forced into a chair. The Commissar persistently
watched me to make sure I was looking toward the torture scenes. In
fact, when I had to vomit, they even paused with their tortures. One
girl had not undressed completely, she may have been somewhat older
than the rest of the girls who were about 17-years old. One of the
torturers soaked her bra with oil and ignited it and, while she cried
out, another drove a thin iron rod into her vagina until it emerged at
her naval.
In the yard they liquidated entire groups of girls, after they had
selected the prettiest ones for the torture room. The air was filled
with the death cries of many hundreds of girls. But in view of what
happened here, the slaughter outside could be considered more humane.
It was a dreadful fact that not one of the girls brought into the
torture room lost here consciousness.
In their horror all were equal in their expressions. It was always
the same; the begging for mercy, the high-pitched scream when their
breasts were cut and their genitals mutilated. Several times the
slaughter was interrupted to sweep out the blood and to clear away the
corpses.
That evening I sank into a severe nerve fever. From then on I lack
any recollection
until the moment I awoke in a military hospital. German troops had
recaptured Neustettin temporarily, and had liberated us. As I learned
later, approximately 2,000 girls were murdered during the first three
days of the first round of Russian occupation."



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Gandalf Grey
2008-02-13 03:13:01 UTC
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Post by Topaz
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:47:50 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"
Post by Gandalf Grey
Since the United States of America was one of those "evil allies" thanks for
making your antiamericanism very plain to all of us.
As for the Evil Reich of Adolf Hitler
As for the Evil Reich of Adolf Hitler being brought about with America in
the lead, I can't think of anything, other than the Revolution my ancestors
fought in, that makes me more proud of being an American. A coward to the
end, they say Der Fuhrur both bit into a cyanide capsule and blew his brains
out after testing the poison on his "beloved" dog just to make sure it would
work. Sad for the dog, but unfortunately, dogs have never been the best
judges of character.

It makes me feel immensely happy to believe that Herr Hitler had a moment or
two to feel the exquisite pain caused by the same poison he had so happily
administered to millions of human beings who had so much more of a right to
live than he did. It's about the only thing that makes me wish that
classical Christianity might be true. Because if it is, there's a Hell, and
if there's a Hell, the lowest circle of that place features Adolf Hitler
suffering in eternal agony.

And when you die, "Topaz", I fervently hope that you are allowed to go and
be with your Fuhrer.

Have a nice day, nazi.
Topaz
2008-02-13 23:40:03 UTC
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"He was born into humble circumstances, the son of an obscure civil
servant in a remote corner of a crumbling empire, yet his name
resounds throughout the world to this day.
He was rejected by the universities of his time for formal enrollment
in art and in architecture, and yet he erected mighty buildings and
monuments, and today a simple postcard that he drew in ink or charcoal
fetches staggering sums at auction.
He fought as a front line soldier through all four years of the
greatest war in history up to that time, never rising above the rank
of corporal, but he won both of his country's highest decorations for
bravery under fire and rose to command the mightiest armies on earth.
Almost unique in the history of his century, he was not a lawyer or an
aristocrat or a man of inherited wealth and privilege, but a man who
once earned his daily bread with the labor of his hands, and yet he
conquered politics and rose to the leadership of the most brilliant
and creative nation on earth. So that his people might travel across
the land he loved quickly and cheaply, he created a simple and sturdy
automobile still in use today, and a network of highways that still
spans Germany. His game and forestry laws are still in force, and are
praised by ecologists as a model of environmental protection. His
economic program received the sincerest form of flattery from the
loathsome Roosevelt, who stole it and copied it into the context of
the American Depression as his own.
Every man who ever met him personally, even those who became his
bitterest enemies, spoke of him forever afterwards with awe and
admiration. His courtesy and his gallantry toward women were
legendary. With his power and his prestige he could have had any woman
he wanted, but the woman he chose as his life's partner, and who
eventually died by his side, was a simple and humble daughter of the
people.
He did not drink. He did not smoke. He was a lifelong lover of animals
and children and was happiest in the company of toddlers rather than
statesmen and soldiers, and no one ever overheard him use a profane
word or tell a smutty joke. He lifted his people up from the mud of
defeat and despair and alien domination, and he died trying to do the
same for all of us.
To this day, his memory is kept green by the Aryan peoples of Germany
and the world, even though it means prison, and in some countries
death, to honor him or his legacy within the sight or hearing of the
tyrant. He has been slandered, vilified, lied about, cursed,
distorted, and damned every day since his death by the most powerful
and evil tyranny mankind has ever known, and yet his name and his
Symbol cannot be suppressed by force or by propaganda. As we begin
this new Millennium, his book is read and his name is on more lips
than ever before and his image and his strength fills the hearts of a
whole new generation of young Aryan men and women."


"When your mother has grown older,
When her dear, faithful eyes
no longer see life as they once did,
When her feet, grown tired,
No longer want to carry her as she walks -

Then lend her your arm in support,
Escort her with happy pleasure.
The hour will come when, weeping, you
Must accompany her on her final walk.

And if she asks you something,
Then give her an answer.
And if she asks again, then speak!
And if she asks yet again, respond to her,
Not impatiently, but with gentle calm.

And if she cannot understand you properly
Explain all to her happily.
The hour will come, the bitter hour,
When her mouth asks for nothing more."

Those lines were written by Adolf Hitler, in 1923."


In the Thicket of the Forest at Artois
"It was in the thicket of the Artois Wood.
Deep in the trees, on blood-soaked ground,
Lay stretched a wounded German warrior,
And his cries rang out in the night.
In vain ... no echo answered his plea ...
Will he bleed to death like a beast,
That shot in the gut dies alone?

Then suddenly ...
Heavy steps approach from the right
He hears how they stamp on the forest floor ...
And new hope springs from his soul.
And now from the left ...
And now from both sides ...

Two men approach his miserable bed
A German it is, and a Frenchman.
And each watches the other with distrustful glance, And threatening
they aim their weapons.
The German warrior asks:
"What do you do here?"
"I was touched by the needy one's call for help."
"It's your enemy!"
"It is a man who suffers."

And both, wordless, lowered their weapons.
Then entwined their hands
And, with muscles tensed, carefully lifted
The wounded warrior, as if on a stretcher,
And carried him through the woods.

'Til they came to the German outposts.
"Now it is over. He will get good care."
And the Frenchman turns back toward the woods.
But the German grasps for his hand,
Looks, moved, into sorrow-dimmed eyes
And says to him with earnest foreboding:
"I know not what fate holds for us,
Which inscrutably rules in the stars.
Perhaps I shall fall, a victim of your bullet.
Maybe mine will fell you on the sand
For indifferent is the chance of battles.

Yet, however it may be and whatever may come:
We lived these sacred hours,
Where man found himself in man ...
And now, farewell! And God be with you!"

Adolf Hitler, 1916


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Gandalf Grey
2008-02-14 00:03:57 UTC
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Post by Topaz
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:12:01 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"
Post by Gandalf Grey
Hatred controls your mind, "Topaz" Hatred and virulent bigotry. It drove
your Fuhrer insane and it reduced Germany to rubble.
Germany was only destroyed by the evil allies.
Since the United States of America was one of those "evil allies" thanks for
making your antiamericanism very plain to all of us.

As for the Evil Reich of Adolf Hitler being brought about with America in
the lead, I can't think of anything, other than the Revolution my ancestors
fought in, that makes me more proud of being an American. A coward to the
end, they say Der Fuhrur both bit into a cyanide capsule and blew his brains
out after testing the poison on his "beloved" dog just to make sure it would
work. Sad for the dog, but unfortunately, dogs have never been the best
judges of character.

It makes me feel immensely happy to believe that Herr Hitler had a moment or
two to feel the exquisite pain caused by the same poison he had so happily
administered to millions of human beings who had so much more of a right to
live than he did. It's about the only thing that makes me wish that
classical Christianity might be true. Because if it is, there's a Hell, and
if there's a Hell, the lowest circle of that place features Adolf Hitler
suffering in eternal agony.

And when you die, "Topaz", I fervently hope that you are allowed to go and
be with your Fuhrer.

Have a nice day, nazi.
Topaz
2008-02-14 02:27:09 UTC
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The Germans removed the Jews from ruling over them. That is what
America needs to do:


Here are some quotes from a German pamphlet titled "Why the Aryan
Law?":

"In 1793 the famous philosopher Johann Gottlieb Fichte, author of
"Speeches to the German Nation," wrote a pamphlet titled "A
Contribution to Correcting Judgments about the French Revolution." It
contained the following significant sentence:

"In nearly all the nations of Europe, a powerful, hostile government
is growing, and is at war with all the others, and sometimes oppresses
the people in dreadful ways: It is Jewry!"

The French Revolution, with its "ideas for the improvement of
humanity" thundered past, and in the noise the people who had believed
in world brotherhood entirely missed this serious warning. What Fichte
warned the word about then has today become fact in nearly all the
nations of the world. The Jewish people, once only tolerated, knew how
to raise a hue and cry about discrimination and persecution, winning
the sympathy of the world for the "poor Jews." They increasingly
infiltrated deep within our national organism, growing to have power
over every single area of our national life. The old saga, the "Edda,"
observes that one blocks a river at its source. The failure to do that
was the great mistake of the German people. Thank God, it is not too
late. Our Fuehrer Adolf Hitler recognized the importance of the
problem for Germany's rebirth, and outlined its solution in his
program.

Martin Luther wrote this of the Jews in his book "The Jews and their
Lies": "They hold we Christians captive in our own land. They have
seized our goods by their cursed usury, they mock and insult us
because we work. They are our lords, and we and our goods belong to
them." If in the coming days the Jewish race is driven out of the
non-Jewish world, it will have at least this consolation: It has made
clear to them for all time the value of maintaining the purity of race
and blood in clear, understandable and unforgettable ways.

National Socialist racial legislation has reduced the influence of
Jewry in all professions, and above all excluded them from the leading
offices of the nation. That is an important step in the relationship
between Germans and Jews, but one cannot ignore the fact that we have
not yet fully eliminated the influence of the Jewish foreign body in
German national life. It is not a question of German-Jewish
coexistence, rather of making as great as possible a separation
between blood and blood.
Three things are involved here:

A knowledge of the basic principles of National Socialist racial
thinking,
An understanding of the growth and expansion of Jewry,
The dominant sociological position of Jewry, to show how it dominated
the German people economically, intellectually and politically..."

"In discussing the Jewish Question, even today one encounters
resistance and misunderstandings, especially in intellectual circles.
This can only be explained by the intellectual education of the
political past. This is especially evident when one discusses the
fundamental issues.

Whenever a new thought arises in the world and calls people to
practical action, the old world resists because it feels its
foundations threatened. Its old standpoint has ruled for decades, and
it looks uncomprehendingly at a new idea that does not fit into the
accustomed patterns of thinking. That is natural. When the new idea
and worldview are truly revolutionary, they are on a different level
of human thought and feeling, and there can be no compromise. Its
realization depends on people who support it, and who are ready to
fight to transform the life of the individual and of the nation in
every way..."

"In the long run, no idea is better suited to guarantee peace between
nations than National Socialist racial thinking, which calls for the
furtherance and maintenance of one's own race and one's own people,
and supports similar efforts on the part of other nations..."

"The new Germany that views its own race and ethnicity positively must
therefore distinguish within its territory between one race and
another, between one people and another. Mixing of blood harms both
sides. Race is an issue for every people if they are to live according
to their nature. The German people is not so arrogant as to believe
that is is the chosen people. The familiar quotation from Geibel, "The
world should enjoy German ways," should be understood in the context
of the dreams of world betterment of those past days.

The National Socialist racial viewpoint has clear consequences for the
relationship between Germans and Jews. People have often said that
National Socialism's approach to the racial question is purely
negative and destructive, and that its essential characteristic is
radical anti-Semitism. One must grant that we made the Jewish question
clearer than anyone else, and taught an entire generation that had
been taught to see all people the same to recognize the importance of
the Jewish question not only for our people, but for the entire world.
Our treatment of the Jewish problem in the years before we took power
must be seen as the political education of the German people, which
had lost its racial instincts to a dangerous degree.

The question took on its own nature in Germany, Many citizens had
their eyes opened, and the simultaneous appeal to all the heroic and
manly virtues of the German man resulted in a racial selection of
political fighters who today stand at the head of the new state.
Formerly, the Jewish question, as seen by the state, was a matter of
complete equality and the unhindered immigration of Jews from the
East. This is the best proof of how racial feeling and consciousness
had been lost. Our tone was not purely negative or the simple
rejection of others, rather the emphasis was on the positive values of
our own people. This does require noting that Jewry through its
Marxist class struggle leadership role and its international financial
measures aimed at Germany supported every kind of anti-national action
in the cultural and political fields. Jewry should not complain if its
anti-German activities, which have no counterpart in any other
country, call forth from the people the defensive reaction of
anti-Semitism.

The starting point of the discussion is the scientific fact that the
Jew is different than the German. This is neither arrogant nor
boastful, it simply is the way things are. For us, the Jewish question
is a question between two peoples. Its characteristics are determined
by the racially determined differences between the two, and through
the unusual sociological and numerical development of Jewry in the
course of its history, developments that are particularly evident in
the last decades through a constantly growing process of foreign
infiltration that has reached an intolerable level for the German
people.

More than once over its history, the German people has absorbed
foreign elements, but they were racially identical or similar
population groups, as for example was the case with the Huguenots.
With the Jews, things are fundamentally different. They are seen
everywhere as foreigners, and see themselves that way as well. Walter
Rathenau said it most clearly as early as 1897: "How strange! In the
middle of German life there is a separate, foreign tribe that stands
out in every way with its hot-tempered behavior. An Asiatic horde has
settled on the sands of Mark Brandenburg." Einstein said something in
1931: "I have to laugh when I hear the phrase 'German citizen of the
Jewish faith.' These citizens first of all want nothing to do with my
poor Eastern European brothers, and second do not want to be sons of
my (Jewish) people, but only members of the Jewish cultural community.
Is that honest? Can a non-Jew respect such people? I am not a German
citizen. I am a Jew, and am happy to belong to the Jewish people."

The most remarkable thing about Jewry is that it has not disappeared
over the millennia, even though it lacks its own territory and
language. Even more remarkable is that it lacks the main
characteristic of a minority population, its own pockets of settlement
to which it could if necessary retreat. Only time will tell if
Palestine will someday fill this gap. That question is made more
difficult by the fact that the Arabs maintain their claim on
Palestine. Whatever the twists of history, the Jew has always remained
the same, whether as a grain speculator in ancient Rome or as a bank
or stock exchange potentate in the modern era. They were always able
to control the wealth of whole nations. Nations and peoples once their
contemporaries have vanished, leaving only words and crumbled
monuments behind; only the Jew remains. In ancient days we see him
carrying on his business in the trading centers of the Mediterranean.
In the Middle Ages he provided money for German nobles and free
cities. Today he rules the banks and stock exchanges of the whole
world, forcing the nations under the yoke of financial capitalism. The
power of this people of 15 million rests on these international
relations. This is how they seem to fulfill the commandment of Jehovah
- the world domination of the chosen people.
The secret of the Jewish people, which has enabled them to survive
through all of history's twists and turns, is that it has always
recognized the laws of blood, even anchoring them in the laws of its
religion. The consciousness of blood and family that believing Jews
have has been stronger than all the other forces of history, giving us
a unique example of a people without its own land and language, which
still meets the criteria for being a people, and which has outlasted
many other peoples.

This historic manifestation of Jewry, which is unique, brings to the
fore the question of the relationship between the host and guest
peoples. It has been answered in differing ways throughout history,
depending on the worldview and thinking then predominant.
Since the Jews were dispersed they have been held together by the laws
of their religion and their faith that they were the chosen people.
Until the middle of the 18th Century, Germans and Jews lived apart
from each other. The Jews had no opportunity to become involved in the
religious of political-intellectual life of their host people. On the
other hand, they could practice their own customs without
interference. They had their own religion and their own laws. During
the Middle Ages, the Ghetto was the way Jewry could maintain itself in
the midst of other peoples and fulfill its Jewish duties, which grew
out of its race, origins and laws. The values and ideals of other
peoples were not affected. This separation was only possible because
the views of the host people were as strong as those of the Jews.
According to the writer Grau: "There was no racial defilement or
baptism, no attempt to join a nation that one could never be a member
of, and no attempt to intellectually silence the host people." In the
Ghetto of the Middle Ages, the Jew developed his nature and
characteristics, which were later to become significant, while
maintaining the community of blood and race. The latter is
particularly important, since the strict physical separation between
the host and guest peoples maintained the foreign nature that we daily
see so clearly, now that the barriers between have long since fallen.

Even in the Middle Ages, the most important thing was not the
difference between the Christian and Mosaic faiths. Rather, there was
on the one hand the natural sense that the Jew was of a foreign race,
and on the other hand the strict law of blood which demanded a clear
separation if the Jews were to fulfill Jehovah's mission, which had
guided them from the beginning. Just this has always been kept in the
background by historians, who present the Ghetto as a tolerated asylum
for Jewish martyrs persecuted on account of their faith. There is a
gap to be filled here. The task of historians writing from our new
viewpoint will be to examine the portrait of the Ghetto of the Middle
Ages to discover its importance for the development of Jewry and the
relationship between the guest and host peoples. Even the Jewish side
is demanding that. O. Karbach criticizes historical writing because it
"in significant ways conceals the historical fact that the Jews in the
centuries before their emancipation possessed a legal standing that
was better than the greater part of the rest of the population, namely
complete or partial agricultural freedom. (Ordnung in der Judenfrage,
edited by E. Czermak, Reinhold, Vienna, 1933).

The barriers between Germans and Jews fell as a result of the
Enlightenment and the French Revolution. The path to Jewish world
domination would take a different direction than pious, observant Jews
had expected. Emancipation made it possible to build Jewish dominance
through secular means. With the disappearance of racial consciousness,
only religious differences seemed to remain. It seemed at the time
unjust to give someone a preferred position only because of his
religious beliefs, which are an entirely personal matter. At the time,
this was tied to a belief in human equality and freedom. It was
revolutionary. It shattered the church dogmas that had ruled for
centuries and was the foundation of liberal thinking during the last
two hundred years. The new goal was humanity itself, and nothing stood
in the way of racial mixing. Some had the quiet hope that assimilation
would mean the absorption of Jewry. Jewry itself, however, was more
than willing to use the opportunities of religious assimilation, which
opened the path to all important positions, even to political
leadership. As H. Heine said, "baptism was the ticket to European
culture." Gradually, an intermixing with the German people developed,
particularly in its cultural elite. Foreign blood infiltrated to a
degree that we realize only today now that the "Law to Reestablish a
Professional Bureaucracy" has exposed numerous sources of foreign
blood. This process has greatly accelerated during the last fourteen
years.

Today the age of raceless thinking is being displaced by the ideals of
human variability. Values are rooted in origin and territory, and each
group has a historic mission based on its own unique and eternal
values. Such new racial thinking will of course secure the opposition
of those who either through faith or reason still believe in the unity
of humanity in culture, social order and organization. The Jews will
naturally oppose any discussion of race, since the denial of any
significant differences between people is the foundation of his
infiltration of Western European society. The Jew finds any mention of
the racial question as an attack on his current existence. His leading
role in every anti-national area is characteristic of his mimicry, and
is necessary for his continued existence. That explains the phrase
"German citizen of the Jewish faith."

The recognition that the Jew is of a foreign and different race along
with the reawakening of German racial consciousness must necessarily
lead to a change in the relations between Germans and Jews.

There is one point to keep in mind before examining the statistics.
Only those people who claimed to be Jews and were members of the
Mosaic faith were counted as Jews, not those who for internal or
external reasons belonged to another religion, or those who claimed to
be dissident Jews and therefore did not belong to the standard groups.
This is regrettable for our purposes, since we are interested not in
the influence of those who still claimed the Jewish religion, rather
those who belonged to the Jewish race! That includes all Jews, whether
of the Mosaic faith or baptized Christians. That is just what the
supporters of the Talmud and the Old Testament always said. They
complained that the state opened all offices to those "without
character," to "Christmas Jews," even admitting them to the officer
corps! The statistics given here must therefore be increased
significantly. The Jews are a race, and baptism does not in any way
change the foreign characteristics that are hostile to the German
people..."

Of course, the intellectual atmosphere that enabled the Jew to
infiltrate the German body politic quickly led the Jew himself to see
that conditions for his advancement were favorable, and that the way
to the top was open. He also realized what the population statistics
meant, indeed they were particularly clear to him, since 2/3 of his
kind lived in the big cities, the centers of the liberal worldview..."

"Nothing shows the differences between our people and the Jews more
clearly than their likes and dislikes for certain occupations. In some
occupations, particularly those that are most important for the nation
as a whole, the foreign influence on German life has reached an
intolerable extent not seen elsewhere in Europe. The preference for
certain occupations also gives us an interesting insight into the
spiritual nature of Jewry.
The following figures show how much critical occupations in Germany
have been infiltrated.

112,188 Jews, or 58.8%, far more than half, are employed in the area
of "commerce and transportation, including restaurants and taverns,"
but only 17.11% (3,248,145) of the population as a whole. In the area
of "industry and craft work, including mining and construction,"
19,318 Jews (25.85%) were employed, including 31.82% of foreigners.
For the population as a whole, the figure was 40.94% (7,771,799).

The figures in the field of "public administration, the judiciary, the
army and navy, churches, legal professionals and the independent
professions." 11,324 Jews were employed there, or 5.94% , over against
921,048 (4.85%) in the general population..."
In 1925, 0.81% of Jews were active as civil servants and the army and
navy, as opposed to 2.3% of the general population. In the church,
religious occupations, the legal system and the other independent
professions, the Jewish percentage is 4.3% as opposed to 2% of the
general population. This shows that the Jews are over-represented when
compared to the general population, particularly in the independent
professions.

The percentage of the Jewish population in government positions may
seem less than that of the general population, but the difference is
not as great as the figures first suggest. The most recent figures,
not yet entirely complete, suggest that a not insignificant number of
them are baptized Jews or dissidents formerly of the Jewish faith who
denied their Jewishness to gain an official position.

4.35% of Jews are employed in the medical and health care system,
including welfare, and 2.0% of foreign Jews. The figure for the
general population is 1.88%. The Jewish percentage is thus 2 1/2 times
as high as that of the general population.

In summary, Jewish occupational patterns differ from those of the rest
of the population. Jewry seems to have an aversion to agricultural
work, industrial labor and crafts. They are greatly over-represented
in commerce and transportation, including the entire banking system.
They are also over-represented in the independent professions and the
health care system. These figures alone demonstrate a clear difference
between the native German population and alien Jewry.

Very similar conditions prevail in all Western European nations and
also in North America, since Jews have spread throughout the world in
areas with growing industry and in cities that are centers of economic
and financial power. It is not true, as is often claimed, that the Jew
was systematically forced into commerce by the laws of the various
nations; rather, commerce particularly suits the Jew's nature. This is
supported by Dr. Arthur Ruppin, a scholar respected by the Jews. He
writes in his book The Jews of the Present (2nd edition, Cologne and
Leipzig, 1911, p. 45):

"Thanks to their significant commercial gifts (!), the Jews soon
enjoyed great success in commerce and industry. For 2000 years they
have seemed predestined to work in commerce. It is false to claim, as
some do, that Jews became merchants primarily because the Christians
denied them other occupations during the Middle Ages. The Jews did not
become merchants in Europe, rather they entered the profession in
growing numbers ever since the Babylonian Captivity in Syria, Egypt
and Babylon [because they dislike labor and prefer to have others work
for them! The Editor]. In Palestine until the dispersion they did live
primarily by agriculture. In the Diaspora, there was hardly anywhere
that the Jews lived by agriculture. The Middle Ages did not make them
into merchants. It only affirmed legally that which history had
already established. It is after all the rule that economic laws
generally do not create new conditions, but only legalize and regulate
that which already exists. The law would never have limited the Jews
to commerce in Europe if they had not already immigrated primarily as
merchants..."

Nearly all national economists agree that the Jews owe their role as
merchants not to chance, but to their excellent abilities as
merchants. As W. Sombart wrote: "The Jewish race is by nature the
incarnation of the capitalism-mercantile spirit." (Der moderne
Kapitalismus, Vol. 2, p. 349. Leipzig, 1902). Many others agree..."

"Similarly differences in the relative proportion of Jews by the
self-employed are evident in the medical field, which employs 0.5% of
the general population but 2.8% of the Jews, nearly six times as many.

Similar statistics are found in the cultural area (theater, film,
radio, education, teaching, etc.). The 0.4% of the general population
are employed there, 2.6% of the Jews, also about six times as many.

In the area of public administration and the judiciary, the percentage
of Jews in high positions is 2.0%, over against 1.3% of the general
population, nearly twice as high. The significance of these figures
becomes clear that when one realizes that the 2.3% of professional
Jews in public administration and the judiciary are in a branch where
the Jewish percentage of employees is only 0.81%. That means that the
Jews are especially represented in the important positions that
influence the whole government and leading branches of the economy.."

"The statistics may be interesting. The Jewish workers included 11,406
in industry, 2,220 in commerce and transportation, and 726 in
agriculture.
The following figures show most clearly the different social structure
of Jewry in Prussia over against the general population, and reveal
clearly Jewry's leading role in public life:.."


"On 19 May 1933 Reich Chancellor Adolf Hitler gave an interview to
Bernard Ridder, an American journalist for the New York State
Newspaper. Discussing the Jewish Question in Germany, he said: "Should
I allow thousands of German-blooded people to be destroyed so that the
Jews can live and work in luxury while millions starve, falling victim
to Bolshevism out of desperation?"

Can the justice of his words be doubted when one recalls that,
according to the Prussian census of 16 June 1925 6.9% of all
independent pharmacists, 17.9% of all independent physicians, 4.8% of
all independent artists, 27% of all independent attorneys, 4.6% of
editors, 11% of theater directors, 7.5% of actors, and 14.8% of all
independent dentists were Jews! And these huge figures when the Jews
were only 1% of the population! Is that anything other than a
Jewdification of our entire cultural system?! And what would these
figures look like if one had had the ability to include baptized Jews
and dissidents?..."


"Berlin is the Jewish metropolis in Germany. The process of
Jewdification is considerably further along. That is understandable,
since one is in the immediate vicinity of the protective arms of
democracy and social democracy, where developments can occur
unhindered. Thus in Berlin on 16 June 1925 32.2% of the pharmacists
were Jews, as were 49.9% of the physicians, 7.5 of the graphic
artists, 50.2% of the attorneys, 8.5% of the editors, 14.2% of the
directors and theater heads, 12.3% of the actors and 37.5% of the
dentists.

These figures cry out for legal limitations on Jewry, and it is
surprising that former governments did not take the appropriate action
to tell the Jews "this far and no further."
The Jewish influence gave the rest of the world an entirely false
impression of the nature of the German people. Inside the Reich, they
poisoned the soul of the people, and all social and political
relationships. Until the national uprising, the leaders of the
National Socialist movement were persecuted, defamed and suppressed by
a system that was a willing tool in the hands of a foreign and
different race. The national revolution freed the German people from
this foreign influence, which had also dominated and ruined the German
press and public life in significant ways.
He who wants to understand the German revolution of 1933 must
understand that it had this goal: 'Germany must be governed by Germans
for Germans.' The central idea of the National Socialist revolution
was the longing of the German people to once more be master in every
area of its own life. As a great, confident people, we demand only
this of the other peoples: that they permit us, as their equals, to
govern ourselves as we wish and find our own way to happiness (Reich
Minister of the Interior Dr. Frick)..."


"The Jewdification of our colleges and universities over the years has
reached almost frightening proportions. We begin with a publication
from 1931. Karl Hoppmann, in his volume "On the State of Jewdification
in the Academic professions" found the following figures:

1. University of Berlin:
Medical faculty . . . . over 50%
Philosophical faculty . . . . 25%
2. University of Göttingen, 32% of the professors were Jewish:
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .47.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 34.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . .40.0%
Mathematics and Natural Sciences . . . 23.0%
3. University of Breslau
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .30.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 37.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25.0%
4. University of Frankfurt (Main)
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .55.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14.0%
Mathematics and Natural Sciences . . . 28.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21.0%
Economics . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28.0%

Jewry has a dominating role on the stock exchange. The board of the
Berlin stock exchange is almost exclusively Jewish. In the various
committees, the percentage of the Jewish race is sometimes many times
as high as the Aryan. The committees include:
That means that 117 or 147 members are Jews, or nearly 80%.
The extent of the Jewdification of German theater and film is evident
from 1931 figures. Of 234 theater directors, 118 (50.4%) were Jews, 92
(39.3%) were non-Jewish.
Berlin led in this area as well, with 23 of 29 theater directors (80%)
Jewish.
The situation in film is similar. The Viennese Catholic periodical
"Schönere Zukunft," which certainly cannot be accused of
anti-Semitism, wrote the following in its 3 February 1929 issue:

"The percentage of Jewry in today's film industry is so high, at least
by us in Germany, that there is only a tiny part left for Christian
firms."

Jewry has long sought political influence as well. This formerly
happened in covert ways, mostly through direct or indirect control of
money matters. Nearly every noble once had his financial Jew. Since
1848, the birth of political parties in Germany, Jewry has openly
sought to become a political power. The Jew Marx was the founder of
Marxist doctrine, the Jew Lassalle was the founder of the Social
Democratic Party. The founders of the Independent Social Democratic
Party of Germany were the Jews Bernstein, Haase, Kautsky, Hilferding,
Cohn, Davidsohn, Simon, Rosenfeld, Eisner, Levi, etc. Carl Liebknecht
and Rosa Luxemberg were the leaders of the Communist Party, and
recently the Jews Rosenfeld and Seydewitz founded the Socialist
Workers Party. Jews sat in the press offices and the various editorial
offices of party newspapers, and above all in the various
parliamentary factions..."

"We think it necessary to mention that the Communist wave that
threatened to destroy Germany politically, economically and
intellectually can primarily be traced back to Jewry.
Is it any wonder that the Jew is arrogant? The greater the Jewish
influence the more secure they feel, and the more ominously and
clearly their character and goals becomes clear: Pride, intolerance
and superiority on the one hand, a drive for world domination on the
other. Several pointed Jewish statements are examples:

Hochmut: The familiar "Dorfgeschichte"-Auerbach says: "We Jews are the
most intelligent race." "We are the chosen ones," says Dr. Berhard
Cohn (Jüdisch-Politische Streitfragen, 20, 22). He continues: "We may
carry our head high and demand particular respect. We must not only be
treated equally, but better. We deserve the particular respect of
other peoples."

Rabbi Dr. Rulf wrote a book ("Aruchas bar-Ammni," Israel's Healing,
Frankfurt a. M. 1883) in which he says: "The Jewish people is a
blessing for all peoples. The blessing has followed on the heels of
the Jews. A whole world lives from the Jews, who feed everyone, and
everywhere spread wealth and pleasure, comfort and prosperity. Only
the commerce of the Jews creates value. Work alone does not do that.
Half of the world's population would starve without the Jews."

The Jew Dr. Duschak wrote: "The world could not exist without the
Jews." The well-known Jew Sacher-Masoch explained the hatred of
anti-Semites against the Jews in this way: It is the same hatred a
Negro feels against the whites because of their superiority.
That the Jews even went so far as to suggest to Bismark that he make
the Jewish Day of Atonement a national holiday is certainly no sign of
modesty.

Intolerance: The Jew Klausner (Society, edited by Conrad, Volume 12)
wrote: "Anti-Semitism and criminality are nearly the same thing. There
are criminals who were not anti-Semites, but no anti-Semites who were
not criminals."

The work by Dr. E. Fuchs. "The Future of the Jews," (Berlin,
Philo-Verlag, 1924) judges our greatest historians, Hartmann and
Treitschke, who see the Jews as our misfortune: "Men blinded by
prejudice and hatred. Small, tiny men."

World Domination: The Jewish attorney Maurthner in Vienna said back in
the 1880's: "It is not just a matter of fighting anti-Semitism. We
want to oppose it with Jewish domination!"

They made the attempt. If the German people had not recovered their
senses at the last moment, and if they had not had a Fuehrer and
Chancellor named Adolf Hitler who recognized the danger and woke the
German people, we would have fallen into slavery. As we have already
noted, the Jew has always known how to rouse sympathy when things were
rough for him. Consider this report from the meeting of the PEN Club
in Ragusa at the end of May of last year: "Schalom Asch in his keynote
address noted that the suffering of the Jews in Germany had aroused
the sympathy of the entire world. Only the German government remained
untouched. He claimed the Jews has given Germany its deepest thoughts,
its most beautiful songs, its greatest poets, artists and
philosophers. Today one had crucified them in Germany and covered them
with their own blood." Mr. Schalom Asch began crying in the midst of
these outrageous lies. He spoke in the hope that his words would be
heard for the sake of justice and humanity throughout the world.
The Jew Asch cries! The German people are not moved. They want no
torture or persecution, but also no unjustified sympathy, only
justice! Remember always the worlds of Field Marshall Moltke: "The Jew
is a state within the state." Remember also the works of our great
historian Mommsen: "In antiquity too the Jew was the ferment of
cosmopolitanism and national decomposition." And remember Goethe: "The
Israelites have never done much; they possess few virtues, and most of
the deficiencies of other peoples!"

The Racial Question has an important role in the laws of other
nations, though other peoples and races are affected than in the
German Reich. It is in no way new or unusual that the German Reich is
active in this area. Contrary to opinions that surface here and there,
our laws are in no way directed against the Jewish religion, its
practice, or the freedom of the Jewish faith.

The German Reich has done nothing but introduce constitutional
legislation to provide the kind of civil service necessary to
guarantee the secure administration of the Reich. The laws do not
render it impossible for a citizen of a foreign state to become a
civil servant. Indeed, if he is appointed to such a position, he
receives full citizenship in the Reich. German civil servants should
however be of Aryan descent. The so-called Aryan Law requires that
each civil servant be of German blood. Since the vast majority of
non-Aryan civil servants were Jews, the first guidelines to the law
paid particular attention to those who were members of the Jewish
race. But we did not simply throw out the non-Aryan civil servants,
but retired them with honor and a pension. The people's state could
hardly proceed in a more legal and mild manner. Germany did not want
to attack Jewry wildly, rather only deal with its results, is clear
from the fact that the Law of 7 April 1933 left untouched all
non-Aryan civil servants who had been appointed before 1 August 1914,
and by the fact that the private sphere not affected. Some complain
that the law extends to half and quarter Aryans. The answer is that
the foreign influence in the civil service had grown to such a
dangerous extent that it was almost impossible for young Germans to
enter these professions." (Reich Minister of the Interior Dr.
Frick..."


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Gandalf Grey
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Post by Topaz
The Germans removed the Jews from ruling over them.
Translation: The nazis attempted to murder the Jews....an entire race of
human beings....

The loathesome philosophy that you represent attempted to wipe an entire
race of human beings off the face of the earth.

And far from being ashamed of it, you're here trying to brag about it.
Post by Topaz
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:12:01 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"
Post by Gandalf Grey
Hatred controls your mind, "Topaz" Hatred and virulent bigotry. It drove
your Fuhrer insane and it reduced Germany to rubble.
Germany was only destroyed by the evil allies.
Since the United States of America was one of those "evil allies" thanks for
making your antiamericanism very plain to all of us.

As for the Evil Reich of Adolf Hitler being brought about with America in
the lead, I can't think of anything, other than the Revolution my ancestors
fought in, that makes me more proud of being an American. A coward to the
end, they say Der Fuhrur both bit into a cyanide capsule and blew his brains
out after testing the poison on his "beloved" dog just to make sure it would
work. Sad for the dog, but unfortunately, dogs have never been the best
judges of character.

It makes me feel immensely happy to believe that Herr Hitler had a moment or
two to feel the exquisite pain caused by the same poison he had so happily
administered to millions of human beings who had so much more of a right to
live than he did. It's about the only thing that makes me wish that
classical Christianity might be true. Because if it is, there's a Hell, and
if there's a Hell, the lowest circle of that place features Adolf Hitler
suffering in eternal agony.

And when you die, "Topaz", I fervently hope that you are allowed to go and
be with your Fuhrer.

Have a nice day, nazi.
Topaz
2008-02-14 22:32:25 UTC
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During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
political opponents and for less reason. At the end of the war there
was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.

Newsweek magazine May 15, 1989 says on page 64:
"the way the Nazis did things: the secrecy, the unwritten orders, the
destruction of records and the innocent-sounding code names for the
extermination of the Jews. Perhaps it was inevitable that historians
would quarrel over just what happened"
The real reason there are no records of an extermination plan is
because there was no extermination plan. The Germans planned to deport
the Jews out of Germany. The records show that they planned to move
them to Madagascar.

Here is part of the Leuchter Report:
"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level
(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absence
of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"

Professional holocaust believers have admitted that the "gas chamber"
which is shown to the tourists at Auschwitz was actually built by the
allies after the war was over. This is what they wrote:
Brian Harmon <***@msg.ucsf.edu> wrote in article
<080620000051136373%***@msg.ucsf.edu>...
"You're confusing Krema I with Kremas II-V. Krema I is a
reconstruction, this has never been a secret. Kremas II-V are in
their demolished state as they were left."
Charles Don Hall <cdhall-***@erols.com> wrote in article
<***@news.erols.com>...
"Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to
deceive.
"The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis
tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their
crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So
it would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully
admit that it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."
They admit that the "gas chamber" shown to the tourists at Auschwitz
was built by the allies after the war was over. There is no physical
evidence that the Germans had gas chambers. No bodies of people who
died from gas have been found. The Communists were the first to enter
the camps. How do the other allies know the Communists didn't blow up
the buildings? Then they could claim that these demolished buildings
used to be gas chambers.

But then the believers will say the Germans confessed. Their main
confession is from Hoess. Here are the details:
"In the introduction to Death Dealer [Buffalo: Prometheus, 1992], the
historian Steven Paskuly wrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the
British Security Police were able to extract a statement from Hoess by
beating him and filling him with liquor." Paskuly was reiterating what
Rupert Butler and Bernard Clarke had already described.
In 1983, Rupert Butler published an unabashed memoir (Legions of
Death, Hamlyn: London) describing in graphic detail how, over three
days, he and Clarke and other British policemen managed to torture
Hoess into making a "coherent statement." According to Butler [Legions
of Death, p. 237], he and the other interrogators put the boots to
Hoess the moment he was captured. For starters, Clarke struck his face
four times to get Höess to reveal his true identity.
<quote>
The admission suddenly unleashed the loathing of Jewish sergeants in
the arresting party whose parents had died in Auschwitz following an
order signed by Höss.
The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pajamas ripped from his
body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where
it seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless.
Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: "Call them off,
unless you want to take back a corpse."
A blanket was thrown over Höss and he was dragged to Clarke's car,
where the sergeant poured a substantial slug of whisky down his
throat. Höss tried to sleep.
Clarke thrust his service stick under the man's eyelids and ordered in
Geffnan: "Keep your pig eyes open, you swine."
For the first time Höss trotted out his oft-repeated justification: "I
took my orders from Himmler. I was a soldier in the same way as you
are a soldier and we had to obey orders."
The party arrived back at Heide around three in the morning. The snow
was swirling
still, but the blanket was torn from Höss and he was made to walk
completely nude
through the prison yard to his cell.
</quote>

An article in the British newspaper Wrexham Leader [Mike Mason, "In a
cell with a Nazi war criminal-We kept him awake until he confessed,"
October 17, 1986] following the airing of a TV documentary on the case
of Rudolf Hoess included eyewitness recollections by Ken Jones:
<quote>
Mr. Ken Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery
stationed at
Heid[e] in Schleswig-Holstein. "They brought him to us when he
refused to
cooperate over questioning about his activities during the war. He
came in the winter
of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks," recalls
Mr. Jones. Two
other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Höss in his cell
to help break
him down for interrogation. "We sat in the cell with him, night and
day, armed with
axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to
help break down
his resistance," said Mr. Jones. When Höss was taken out for exercise
he was made
to wear only jeans and a cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three
days and
nights without sleep, Höss finally broke down and made a full
confession to
the authorities.
</quote>

The confession Hoess signed was numbered document NO-1210; later
revamped, as document PS-3868, which became the basis for an oral
deposition Hoess made for the IMT on April 15, 1946, a month after it
had been extracted from him by torture...
Since what people confess to after they have been captured by the
Communists and their liberal comrades is not proof of anything, this
leaves only the stories of survivors. These contradict each other and
not believable. One professional survivor said that he could tell if
the Germans were gassing German Jews or Polish Jews by the color of
the smoke.
The fact that there are so many "survivors" is not proof of an
extermination plan. There may be six million survivors. Just about
every Jew that is old says he is a survivor.

The real "holocaust" was when the Communist Jews murdered millions of
Christians. Communism was Jewish. Here is proof:

Article Winston Churchill wrote in 1920:
"This movement amongst the Jews (the Russian Revolution) is not new.
From the days of Spartacus Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down
to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kuhn (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany)
and Emma Goldman (United States), this world wide conspiracy for the
overthrow of civilization and the reconstruction of society on the
basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible
equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer,
Mrs. Nesta Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part
in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at
last this band of extraordinary personalities has gripped the Russian
people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the
undisputed masters of that enormous empire. There is no need to
exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the
actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international
and for the most part atheistic Jews. Moreover, the principal
inspiration and driving power comes from Jewish leaders." (ibid)

Lev Trotzky wrote a book called "Stalin: An Appraisal of the Man and
His Influence", Harper Bros., New York and London, 1941, translated by
Charles Malamuth.

In this book he told who the principle members of the October Central
Committee were. This group was the leadership of the Bolshevik Party
during the October Revolution. This is what he wrote:

"In view of the Party's semi-legality the names of persons elected by
secret ballot were not announced at the Congress, with the exception
of the four who had received the largest number of votes. Lenin--133
out of a possible 134, Zinoviev--132, Kamenev--131, Trotzky--131."

Of these four top leaders of the Bolshevik Party the last three were
known Jews. Lenin was thought to be a gentile married to a Jewess. It
was later proven that he was one quarter Jewish, London Jewish
Chronicle April 21, 1995, Lenin: Life and Legacy.

David Francis, the American Ambassador to Russia at the time of the
Revolution, wrote:
"The Bolshevic leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of
whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country
but are internationalists and they are trying to start a world-wide
revolution."

The Director of British Intelligence to the U.S. Secretary of State
wrote this:
"There is now definite evidence that Bolshevism is an international
movement controlled by Jews."

In 1945 the FBI arrested six individuals for stealing 1700 highly
confidential documents from State Department files. This was the
Amerasia case they were:

Philip Jaffe, a Russian Jew who came to the U.S. in 1905. He was at
one time the editor of the communist paper "Labor Defense" and the
ringleader of the group arrested.
Andrew Roth, a Jew.
Mark Gayn, a Jew, changed his name from Julius Ginsberg.
John Service, a gentile.
Emmanuel Larsen, nationality unknown
Kate Mitchel, nationality unknown.
In 1949 the Jewess Judith Coplin was caught passing classified
documents from Justice Department files to a Russian agent.

The highest ranking communist brought to trial in the U.S. was Gerhart
Eisler. He was a Jew. He was the secret boss of the Communist Party
in the U.S. and commuted regularly between the U.S. and Russia.

In 1950 there was the "Hollywood Ten" case. Ten leading film writers
of the Hollywood Film Colony were convicted for contempt of Congress
and sentenced to prison. Nine of the ten were Jews. Six of the ten
were communist party members and the other four were flagrantly
pro-communist.

One of the top new stories of 1949 was the trial of Eugene Dennis and
the Convicted Eleven. This group comprised the National Secretariat of
the American Communist Party. Six were Jews, two gentiles, three
nationality unknown.

Also in 1949 the German-born atomic scientist Klaus Fuchs was
convicted for passing atomic secrets to the Russians. Acting on
information obtained from Fuchs the FBI arrested nine other members of
the ring. All of them were convicted. Eight of the nine were Jews.

Here are some quotes from a very pro-Jewish book that was first
published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.

"But save for such exceptions, the Jews who led or participated in the
heroic efforts to remold the world of the last century, were neither
Reform or Orthodox. Indeed, they were often not professing Jews at
all.
"For instance, there was Heinrich Heine and Ludwig Borne, both
unfaltering champions of freedom. And even more conspicuously, there
was Karl Marx, one of the great prophetic geniuses of modern times.
"Jewish historians rarely mention the name of this man, Karl Marx,
though in his life and spirit he was far truer to the mission of
Israel than most of those who were forever talking of it. He was born
in Germany in 1818, and belonged to an old rabbinic family. He was not
himself reared as a Jew, however, but while still a child was baptized
a Christian by his father. Yet the rebel soul of the Jew flamed in him
throughout his days, for he was always a 'troubler' in Europe."
"Then, of course, there are Ludwig Borne and Heinrich Heine, two men
who by their merciless wit and sarcasm became leaders among the
revolutionary writers. Karl Marx, Ferdinand Lassalle, Johann Jacoby,
Gabriel Riesser, Adolphe Cremieux, Signora Nathan- all these of Jewish
lineage played important roles in the struggle that went throughout
Europe in this period. Wherever the war for human liberty was being
waged, whether in France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, or Italy, there
the Jew was to be found. It was little wonder that the enemies of
social progress, the monarchists and the Churchmen, came to speak of
the whole liberal movement as nothing but a Jewish plot."

The book "Soviet Russia and the Jews" by Gregor Aronson and published
by the American Jewish League Against Communism, quotes Stalin in an
interview in 1931 with the Jewish Telegraph Agency. Stalin said:

"...Communists cannot be anything but outspoken enemies of
Anti-Semitism. We fight anti-Semites by the strongest methods in the
Soviet Union. Active anti-Semites are punished by death under the
law."

The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from
the
U.S. Archives:
State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominent in local Soviet
government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."

State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."

From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomery Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning, guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type" type."

A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
were 384 'commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
Imperial Government.

The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."

"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920 "In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the
membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews
comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." (Stuart Kahan,
The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)

Interestingly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:
"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:
"Making an effort to overcome my natural reluctance, I tried to read
articles of this nature published in the Marxist Press; but in doing
so my aversion increased all the more. And then I set about learning
something of the people who wrote and published this mischievous
stuff. From the publisher downwards, all of them were Jews. I
recalled to mind the names of the public leaders of Marxism, and then
I realized that most of them belonged to the Chosen Race- the Social
Democratic representatives in the Imperial Cabinet as well as the
secretaries if the Trades Unions and the street agitators. Everywhere
the same sinister picture presented itself. I shall never forget the
row of names- Austerlitz, David, Adler, Ellonbogen, and others. One
fact became quite evident to me. It was that this alien race held in
its hands the leadership of that Social Democratic Party with whose
minor representatives I had been disputing for months past."

Solzhenitsyn named in his book the six top administrators of the
Soviet death camps. All six of them were Jews.

Here is something the National Socialists wrote:
"The Soviet Union was in fact a paradise for one group: the Jews. Even
at times when for foreign policy reasons Jews were less evident in the
government, or when they ruled through straw men, the Jews were always
visible in the middle and lower levels of the administration."



http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/

http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
Gandalf Grey
2008-02-14 22:41:31 UTC
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Post by Topaz
During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
concentration camps.
And the nazis murdered them...some by slow starvation and overwork and
others with gas or machine gun executions.

And those nazis and the maniac who led them are your heroes.
Topaz
2008-02-14 23:50:42 UTC
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:41:31 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"
Post by Gandalf Grey
And the nazis murdered them...some by slow starvation and overwork and
others with gas or machine gun executions.
And those nazis and the maniac who led them are your heroes.
No, the Jews control your media and your mind.


"There is no factual evidence to support the claims of the Holocaust.
After the war ended, the first assertions made by the Holocaust
industry had nothing to do with homicidal gassings and in fact,
Winston Churchill in his six-volume history of World War II and Dwight
D. Eisenhower in his memoirs, made not a single reference to homicidal
gassing chambers. In addition, autopsies made by Allied medical
personnel at the camps found that the inmates died of disease and
absolutely not a single shred of physical or forensic evidence found
post war showed that anyone was ever "gassed."
There is no doubt that people died of Typhus, and the shaving of hair,
removal of clothes and showers was typical of a program of delousing
to promote prisoner health, while if killing was your goal they would
have no reason to follow the delousing procedures so common during the
war as they did. It just does not add up."

Theodore Herzl

http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/

http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
Gandalf Grey
2008-02-15 00:02:54 UTC
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Post by Topaz
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:41:31 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"
Post by Gandalf Grey
And the nazis murdered them...some by slow starvation and overwork and
others with gas or machine gun executions.
And those nazis and the maniac who led them are your heroes.
No, the Jews control your media and your mind.
No, my friend. I control my mind. The really sad thing about you is that
YOU are the one without control over his own mind. You've sold your mind
and your soul to one of the most evil ideologies the world has ever known.
The ironic thing is that we Americans actually tolerate an ideology bent on
destroying our own form of government because our system of government still
promotes toleration...even the toleration of subhumans who worship the
memory of a psychotic mass murderer like Adolf Hitler.
Post by Topaz
"There is no factual evidence to support the claims of the Holocaust.
There's a world of factual evidence that proves that the Holocaust occurred
and that Hitler fully condoned and intended to exterminate the Jewish people
and all other human beings who he believed were not up to his insane vision
of Aryan perfection.

You're a very sick human being, "Topaz." I'd recommend therapy, but I've
never seen any amount of therapy that can cure the social disease that is
naziism.

Have a nice day.
Topaz
2008-02-15 01:02:35 UTC
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:02:54 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"
Post by Gandalf Grey
No, my friend. I control my mind. The really sad thing about you is that
YOU are the one without control over his own mind. You've sold your mind
and your soul to one of the most evil ideologies the world has ever known.
Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:


"The man who is not opposed and vilified and slandered in the
Jewish Press is not a staunch German and not a true National
Socialist. The best rule whereby the sincerity of his convictions, his
character and strength of will, can be measured is by the hostility
which his name arouses among the mortal enemies of our people.
"The followers of the movement, and indeed the whole nation,
must be reminded again and again of the fact that, through the medium
of his newspapers, the Jew is always spreading falsehood and that if
he tells the truth on some occasions it is only for the purpose of
masking some greater deceit, which turns the apparent truth into a
deliberate falsehood. The Jew is the Great Master of Lies. Falsehood
and duplicity are the weapons with which he fights.
"Every calumny and falsehood published by the Jews are tokens of
honor which can be worn by our comrades. He whom they decry most is
nearest to our hearts and he whom they mortally hate is our best
friend.
"If a comrade of ours opens a Jewish newspaper in the morning
and does not find himself vilified there, then he has spent yesterday
to no account. For if he had achieved something he would be
persecuted, slandered, derided and abused. Those who effectively
combat this mortal enemy of our people, who is at the same time the
enemy of all Aryan peoples and all culture, can only expect to arouse
opposition on the part of this race and become the object of its
slanderous attacks.
"When these truths become part of the flesh and blood, as it
were, of our members, then the movement will be impregnable and
invincible."

" Then I began to examine my favorite 'World Press', with that fact
before my mind. "The deeper my soundings went the lesser grew my
respect for that Press which I formerly admired. Its style became
still more repellant and I was forced to reject its ideas as entirely
shallow and superficial. To claim that in the presentation of facts
and views its attitude was impartial seemed to me to contain more
falsehood than truth. The writers were- Jews.

"Thousands of details that I had scarcely noticed before seemed
to me now to deserve attention. I began to grasp and understand
things which I had formerly looked at in a different light."

"Thus another weapon beside that of freemasonry would have to be
secured. This was the Press. The Jew exercised all his skill and
tenacity in getting hold of it. By means of the Press he began
gradually to control public life in its entirety."
Post by Gandalf Grey
The ironic thing is that we Americans actually tolerate an ideology bent on
destroying our own form of government because our system of government still
promotes toleration...even the toleration of subhumans who worship the
memory of a psychotic mass murderer like Adolf Hitler.
Democracy is a cruel joke when the Jews control the media.

"Jewry rules from behind the mask of democracy. What one calls
democracy today is concealed Jewish domination. Jews determine what
happens in the democratic states"
Julius Streicher, Der Stürmer, #34/1939.

"A couple of weeks ago I quoted a few sentences from a book published
in 1928 titled Propaganda, by ... Edward Bernays. Today I'll read to
you an expanded set of excerpts from Bernays' book to give you a
little more of the gist of his message. I quote:

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits
and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic
society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society
constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of
our country.

"We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes are formed, our
ideas suggested largely by men we have never heard of. This is a
logical result of the way in which our democratic society is
organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner
if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. . . .

"Whatever attitude one chooses to take toward this condition, it
remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in
the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our
ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of
persons . . . who understand the mental processes and social patterns
of the masses.
It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who
harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the
world. . .

"No serious sociologist believes any longer that the voice of the
people expresses any divine or especially wise and lofty idea. The
voice of the people expresses the mind of the people, and that mind is
made up for it by the group leaders in whom it believes and by those
persons who understand the manipulation of public opinion. . . .

"Whether in the problem of getting elected to office or in the problem
of interpreting and popularizing new issues, or in the problem of
making the day-to-day administration of public affairs a vital part of
the community life, the use of propaganda, carefully adjusted to the
mentality of the masses, is an essential adjunct of political life." -
end of quote -

I should mention that Bernays' book is not profound or especially
valuable in itself. It merely states a few self-evident facts about
the way in which a modern society works. For the person interested in
propaganda, far more useful books are available. The fact that Bernays
was a Jew is not even especially relevant here except to emphasize
that propaganda, the mass media, psychology, and the manipulation of
others always have been subjects of special interest to the Jews. It
is not for nothing that they are as thick in these fields today as
they were in the time of Bernays and Freud. The reason I chose
Bernays' book to quote is that it provides a more concise and clear
summary, in a few quotable paragraphs, of the role of propaganda in
modern life than most other
books on the subject.

If I were you I wouldn't even waste time trying to hunt down a copy of
Bernays' book. Although it is available in larger libraries, it's long
been out of print, and all it does is state the obvious: namely, that
the whole concept of democracy is meaningless in an age where a few
people have in their hands the mechanism for controlling the attitudes
and opinions of a majority of the electorate. And Bernays also takes
the disingenuous position that not only is this control a fact of
life, but it is a good thing; it is necessary to control and regiment
the thinking of the public in order to avoid chaos, and it can only
lead us to greater progress and prosperity. He simply glosses over the
question of
who should exercise this control and what their motives should be.

If you really want to study the subject of propaganda, a good place to
start is with the 1962 book, also titled Propaganda, by the Frenchman
Jacques Ellul. That book is still in print and is available from the
sponsor of this program, National Vanguard Books. Professor Ellul
deals with the subject in much greater depth and with much greater
honesty than Bernays does, but he agrees with Bernays on the most
obvious and
fundamental conclusions: on the irrelevance of the idea of democracy,
for example. I quote from Professor Ellul's book:

"If I am in favor of democracy, I can only regret that propaganda
renders the true exercise of it almost impossible. But I think that it
would be even worse to entertain any illusions about a coexistence of
true democracy and propaganda." -- end of quote --

To me it is frustrating that a conclusion that seems so obvious is
nevertheless resisted by so many otherwise intelligent people.
Democracy has become almost a sacred concept to them, this idea that
the policies guiding our nation should be decided by counting the
votes of every featherless biped who has reached the age of 18. It's
like motherhood:
they're almost afraid to question it.

This seems to be as true of intellectuals in our society as it is of
Joe Sixpacks. The fact is that intellectuals are no more likely to be
independent-minded than people who work with their hands; most
intellectuals, just like most Joe Sixpacks, are lemmings. In fact, as
Ellul points out, it is precisely the intellectuals who are most
strongly controlled by propaganda, because they are more open to every
medium of propaganda.

And I must admit that it took me a long time to overcome the ideas
drummed into me when I was in school that under a democracy people are
more free than under any other political system, that under a
democracy we are all free to think and say whatever we want, and that
we have a greater responsibility as citizens of a democracy to make up
our own minds about things independently, and so on. Actually, we
still have some degree of individual freedom in the United States
today because more than 200 years ago men whose temperament was far
more aristocratic than democratic in the modern sense of the word were
willing to go to war against their legitimate government in order to
secure that freedom for us, and people with a truly democratic
temperament, who have been
gnawing away at that freedom ever since, haven't yet succeeded in
suppressing it completely.

Well, it should not be surprising to us that although books such as
Professor Ellul's Propaganda - and many others - are readily
available, almost no one has heard of them. Keeping the public
believing in the myth of democracy is an important element in
maintaining control over the thinking and behavior of the public. It
is simply immoral and
scandalous to question the reality of democracy. It's like questioning
the truth of the "Holocaust" story. And for that reason we're not
likely to be taught in our social studies classes in school or to read
in the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal even the most obvious
and self-evident conclusions presented by Bernays or Ellul. We're
still
taught how democracy safeguards our freedom, even while those who
control the mechanism of propaganda in our democratic society are
working day and night to eliminate that freedom."


http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/

http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
Gandalf Grey
2008-02-15 01:09:50 UTC
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Post by Topaz
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:02:54 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"
Post by Gandalf Grey
No, my friend. I control my mind. The really sad thing about you is that
YOU are the one without control over his own mind. You've sold your mind
and your soul to one of the most evil ideologies the world has ever known.
"The man who is not opposed and vilified and slandered
Hitler, on the other hand, could not be vilified and slandered since he
really was a human monstrosity.
Hatto von Aquitanien
2008-02-15 01:56:31 UTC
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Post by Topaz
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:02:54 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"
Post by Gandalf Grey
No, my friend. I control my mind. The really sad thing about you is that
YOU are the one without control over his own mind. You've sold your mind
and your soul to one of the most evil ideologies the world has ever known.
"The man who is not opposed and vilified and slandered
Hitler, on the other hand, could not be vilified and slandered since he
really was a human monstrosity.
How many cities did the Germans nuke?

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Gandalf Grey
2008-02-15 02:34:05 UTC
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Post by Hatto von Aquitanien
Post by Gandalf Grey
Post by Topaz
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:02:54 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"
Post by Gandalf Grey
No, my friend. I control my mind. The really sad thing about you is that
YOU are the one without control over his own mind. You've sold your mind
and your soul to one of the most evil ideologies the world has ever known.
"The man who is not opposed and vilified and slandered
Hitler, on the other hand, could not be vilified and slandered since he
really was a human monstrosity.
How many cities did the Germans nuke?
How many millions of Jews did Franklin Roosevelt have murdered?
Topaz
2008-02-16 00:27:14 UTC
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by James Buchanan
Let's say the Germans merely removed the Jews from positions of
political power and banned them from the legal profession. Germany
went from devastating economic poverty in 1932 to full employment just
a couple years later. If an incredible economic improvement can be
achieved, merely by removing the Jews from power (and replacing them
with patriotic nationalists), then every Gentile nation in the world
should give this a try.
Obviously the Jews don't want anyone else getting the idea of removing
them to create prosperity. The Jews control the mass media in most
Western countries. Most people don't know about the Balfour
Declaration. During World War One, Zionist Jews offered to use their
control of the press to bring America into World War One if Britain
would promise them Palestine. This offer was dubbed the Balfour
Declaration. If the Jews had enough media control and influence to
push America into World War One in 1917, what else have they done with
their power?
It was a huge embarrassment for the Jews to see Germany so prosperous
in the mid-1930s after removing them from power. They considered this
a dangerous precedent. To deal with this "problem" the Jewish World
Congress declared war on Germany in 1933. This declaration of war at
least encouraged a world-wide boycott against Germany and at worst
encouraged other nations of the world to become hostile toward
Germany. (The Jews curiously sanctioned the Germans before the Germans
passed any laws restricting the Jews.) More importantly the Jews
pushed vicious anti-German slander in all the Jewish-owned newspapers
in the West in the years leading up to World War Two. The Communist
mass murder of 30 million people in Russia and the Ukraine received
almost no publicity in the Jewish media. Most people in the West only
heard a serious mention of these Communist mass murders beginning in
the 1980s. Instead, the Jewish media focused all their hatred and
agitation against Germany and its allies.
After six years of relentless agitation, the Jews pushed England and
France into war with Germany. Only two years later, FDR and his cabal
of Jews provoked a war with Japan (and Germany).
Naturally, the Jews did not want future historians to say: "World War
Two was provoked by the Jewish media in retaliation for Germany
removing the Jews from power." The Jews needed a new reason for World
War Two. A reason that painted their enemies as unquestionably evil.
So they invented the Holocaust.
The Holocaust stood mostly unchallenged for decades after the war
because people feared being branded "Nazi-sympathizers" for
questioning its details. The truth always comes out in the long run.
Professor Arthur Butz published his famous work "The Hoax of the 20th
Century" in 1977 detailing a very solid argument against this war
propaganda. Dr. Butz pointed out that the world population of Jews
remained at about 16 million before and after the war. He also noted
that half a million Jews remained in Paris after four years of German
occupation. Both these facts strongly suggest the Holocaust is a
fraud, but the political power of the Jews has suppressed and punished
any public questioning of the Holocaust to this day. David Irving
joined the ranks of Revisionist historians several years ago and went
from a famous successful author to a pariah thanks to persecution by
the Jews.
The Institute for Historical Review has done great work exposing the
Holocaust as a great historical fraud. Anyone interested in looking
for historical truth should visit their website. It's a shock for many
people to see how much propaganda we've been force fed.
http://www.ihr.org

http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/

http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
Gandalf Grey
2008-02-16 01:05:58 UTC
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by James Buchanan
Let's say the Germans merely removed the Jews from positions of
political power and banned them from the legal profession.
What proof exists that the Nazis practiced genocide or deliberately killed
six million Jews?



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1. What proof exists that the Nazis practiced genocide or deliberately
killed six million Jews?

The IHR says (original, Samisdat, and revised versions combined):

None. The only evidence is the postwar testimony of individual
"survivors." This testimony is contradictory, and no "survivor" claims to
have actually witnessed any gassing. There are no contemporaneous documents
and no hard evidence whatsoever: no mounds of ashes, no crematoria capable
of disposing of millions of corpses, no piles of clothes, no human soap, no
lamp shades made of human skin, no records, no credible demographic
statistics.

Nizkor replies:

Lie piled upon lie, with not a shred of proof.

This is as good a place as any to present some detailed evidence which is
consistently ignored, as a sort of primer on Holocaust denial. It will make
this reply much longer than the other sixty-five, but perhaps the reader
will understand the necessity for this.

Let's look at their claims one at a time:


a.. Supposedly the only evidence, "the postwar testimony of individual
survivors."
First of all, consider the implicit conspiracy theory. Notice how the
testimony of every single inmate of every Nazi camp is automatically
dismissed as unconvincing. This total dismissal of inmates' testimony, along
with the equally-total dismissal of the Nazis' own testimony (!), is the
largest unspoken assumption of Holocaust-denial.

This assumption, which is not often spelled out, is that the attempted
Jewish genocide never took place, but rather that a secret conspiracy of
Jews, starting around 1941, planted and forged myriad documents to prove
that it did; then, after the war, they rounded up all the camp survivors and
told them what to say.

The conspirators also supposedly managed to torture hundreds of key Nazis
into confessing to crimes which they never committed, or into framing their
fellow Nazis for those crimes, and to plant hundreds of documents in Nazi
files which were never discovered until after the war, and only then, in
many cases, by sheer luck. Goebbels' diary, for example, was barely rescued
from being sold as 7,000 pages of scrap paper, but buried in the scattered
manuscript were several telling entries (as translated in Lochner, The
Goebbels Diaries, 1948, pp. 86, 147-148):

February 14, 1942: The Führer once again expressed his determination to
clean up the Jews in Europe pitilessly. There must be no squeamish
sentimentalism about it. The Jews have deserved the catastrophe that has now
overtaken them. Their destruction will go hand in hand with the destruction
of our enemies. We must hasten this process with cold ruthlessness.

March 27, 1942: The procedure is a pretty barbaric one and not to be
described here more definitely. Not much will remain of the Jews. On the
whole it can be said that about 60 per cent of them will have to be
liquidated whereas only 40 per cent can be used for forced labor.

Michael Shermer has pointed out that the Nazis' own estimate of the number
of European Jews was eleven million, and sixty percent of eleven million is
6.6 million. This is fairly close to the actual figure. (Actually, forty
percent was a serious overestimate of the survival rate of Jews who were
captured, but there were many Jews who escaped.)

In any case, most of the diary is quite mundane, and interesting only to
historians. Did the supposed Jewish conspiracy forge seven thousand pages to
insert just a few lines? How did they manage to know Goebbels' affairs
intimately enough to avoid contradictions, e.g. putting him or his
associates in the wrong city at the wrong date?

As even the revisionist David Cole has admitted, revisionists have yet to
provide a satisfactory explanation of this document.

Regarding postwar testimony from Nazis, were they all tortured into
confessing to heinous crimes which they supposedly did not commit? This
might be believable if only a few Nazis were captured after the war, or
maybe if some had courageously stood up in court and shouted to the world
about the supposed attempt to silence them. But hundreds testified regarding
the Holocaust, in trials dating from late 1945 until the 1960s. (For
example, see Böck, Hofmann, Hössler, Klein, Münch, and Stark.)

Many of these Nazis testified as witnesses and were not accused of crimes.
What was the basis for their supposed coercion?

Many of these trials were in German courts. Did the Germans torture their
own countrymen? Well, Holocaust-deniers sometimes claim that the Jews have
secretly infiltrated the German government and control everything about it.
They prefer not to talk too much about this theory, however, because it is
clearly on the lunatic fringe.

The main point is that not one of these supposed torture victims -- in
fifty years, not one -- has come forth to support the claim that testimony
was coerced.

On the contrary, confirmation and reconfirmation of their testimony has
continued across the years. What coercion could have convinced Judge Konrad
Morgen to testify to the crimes he witnessed at the International Nuremberg
Trial in 1946, where he was not accused of any crime? And to later testify
at the Auschwitz trial at Frankfurt, Germany, in 1963-65? What coercion was
applied to SS Doctor Johann Kremer to make him testify in his own defense in
1947, and then, after having been convicted in both Poland and Germany,
emerge after his release to testify again as a witness at the Frankfurt
trial? What coercion was applied to Böck, Gerhard Hess, Hölblinger, Storch,
and Wiebeck, all former SS men, all witnesses at Frankfurt, none accused of
any crime there?

Holocaust-deniers point to small discrepancies in testimonies to try to
discredit them. The assumption, unstated, is that the reader will accept
minor discrepancies as evidence of a vast, over-reaching Jewish conspiracy.
This is clearly ludicrous.

In fact, the discrepancies and minor errors in detail argue against, not
for, the conspiracy theory. Why would the conspirators have given different
information to different Nazis? In fact, if all the testimonies, from the
Nazis' to the inmates', sounded too similar, it is certain that the
Holocaust-deniers would cite that as evidence of a conspiracy.

What supposed coercion could reach across four decades, to force former
SS-Untersturmführer Dr. Hans Münch to give an interview, against the will of
his family, on Swedish television? In the 1981 interview, he talked about
Auschwitz:

Interviewer: Isn't the ideology of extermination contrary to a doctor's
ethical values?

Münch: Yes, absolutely. There is no discussion. But I lived in that
environment, and I tried in every possible way to avoid accepting it, but I
had to live with it. What else could I have done? And I wasn't confronted
with it directly until the order came that I and my superior and another one
had to take part in the exterminations since the camp's doctors were
overloaded and couldn't cope with it.

Interviewer: I must ask something. Doubters claim that "special
treatment" could mean anything. It didn't have to be extermination.

Münch: "Special treatment" in the terminology of the concentration camp
means physical extermination. If it was a question of more than a few
people, where nothing else than gassing them was worthwhile, they were
gassed.

Interviewer: "Special treatment" was gassing?

Münch: Yes, absolutely.

And what supposed coercion could reach across four decades, to force
former SS-Unterscharführer Franz Suchomel into giving an interview for the
film Shoah? Speaking under (false) promises of anonymity, he told of the
crimes committed at the Treblinka death camp (from the book Shoah, Claude
Lanzmann, 1985, p. 54):

Interviewer: You are a very important eyewitness, and you can explain
what Treblinka was.

Suchomel: But don't use my name.

Interviewer: No, I promised. All right, you've arrived at Treblinka.

Suchomel: So Stadie, the sarge, showed us the camps from end to end.
Just as we went by, they were opening the gas-chamber doors, and people fell
out like potatoes. Naturally, that horrified and appalled us. We went back
and sat down on our suitcases and cried like old women.

Each day one hundred Jews were chosen to drag the corpses to the mass
graves. In the evening the Ukrainians drove those Jews into the gas chambers
or shot them. Every day!

Ask the deniers why they shrug off the testimony of Franz Suchomel. Greg
Raven will tell you that "it is not evidence...bring me some evidence,
please." Others will tell you that Suchomel and Münch were crazy, or
hallucinating, or fantasizing.

But the fantasy is obviously in the minds of those who choose to ignore
the mass of evidence and believe instead in a hypothetical conspiracy,
supported by nothing but their imaginations.

That total lack of evidence is why the "conspiracy assumption" almost
always remains an unspoken assumption. To our knowledge, there has not been
one single solitary "revisionist" paper, article, speech, pamphlet, book,
audiotape, videotape, or newsletter which provides any details about this
supposed Jewish/Zionist conspiracy which did all the dirty work. Not one.

At best, the denial literature makes veiled references to the World Jewish
Congress perpetuating a "hoax" (in Butz, 1976) -- no details are provided.
Yet the entire case of Holocaust-denial rests on this supposed conspiracy.

As for the testimony of the survivors, which the "revisionists" claim is
the only evidence, there are indeed numerous testimonies to gassings and
other forms of atrocities, from Jewish inmates who survived the camps, and
also from other inmates like POWs. Many of the prisoners that testified
about the gassing are not Jewish, of course. Look for instance at the
testimony of Polish officer Zenon Rozansky about the first homicidal gassing
in Auschwitz, in which 850 Russian POWs were gassed to death, in Reitlinger,
The Final Solution, p. 154:

Those who were propped against the door leant with a curious stiffness
and then fell right at our feet, striking their faces hard against the
concrete floor. Corpses! Corpses standing bolt upright and filling the
entire corridor of the bunker, till they were packed so tight that it was
impossible for more to fall.

Which of the "revisionists" will deny this? Which of them was there? Which
of them has the authority to tell Rozansky what he did or did not see?

The statement that "no 'survivor' claims to have actually witnessed any
gassing" is clearly false; this was changed to "few survivors" in later
versions, which is close to the truth.

But we do not need to rely solely on testimony, from the survivors, Nazis,
or otherwise. Many wartime documents, not postwar descriptions, specifically
regarding gassings and other atrocities, were seized by the U.S. armed
forces. Most are in the National Archives in Washington, D.C.; some are in
Germany.

Regarding the gassing vans, precursors to the gas chambers, we find, for
example, a top secret document from SS Untersturmführer Becker to SS
Obersturmbannführer Rauff (from Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression, 1946, Vol.
I, pp. 999-1001):

If it has rained for instance for only one half hour, the van cannot be
used because it simply skids away. It can only be used in absolutely dry
weather. It is only a question now whether the van can only be used standing
at the place of execution. First the van has to be brought to that place,
which is possible only in good weather. ...

The application of gas usually is not undertaken correctly. In order to
come to an end as fast as possible, the driver presses the accelerator to
the fullest extent. By doing that the persons to be executed suffer death
from suffocation and not death by dozing off as was planned. My directions
now have proved that by correct adjustment of the levers death comes faster
and the prisoners fall asleep peacefully.

And Just wrote of the gas vans to Rauff, on June 5, 1942, in a letter
marked both "top secret" and "only copy". This is a horrific masterpiece of
Nazi double-talk, referring to killing as "processing" and the victims as
"subjects" and "the load." (See Kogon, Nazi Mass Murder, 1993, pp. 228-235.)

Since December 1941, for example, 97,000 were processed using three
vans, without any faults occurring in the vehicles. ...

The normal capacity of the vans is nine to ten per square meter. The
capacity of the larger special Saurer vans is not so great. The problem is
not one of overloading but of off-road maneuverability on all terrains,
which is severely diminished in this van. It would appear that a reduction
in the cargo area is necessary. This can be achieved by shortening the
compartment by about one meter. The problem cannot be solved by merely
reducing the number of subject treated, as has been done so far. For in this
case a longer running time is required, as the empty space also needs to be
filled with CO [the poison exhaust gas]. ...

Greater protection is needed for the lighting system. The grille should
cover the lamps high enough up to make it impossible to break the bulbs. It
seems that these lamps are hardly ever turned on, so the users have
suggested that they could be done away with. Experience shows, however, that
when the back door is closed and it gets dark inside, the load pushes hard
against the door. The reason for this is that when it becomes dark inside,
the load rushes toward what little light remains. This hampers the locking
of the door. It has also been noticed that the noise provoked by the locking
of the door is linked to the fear aroused by the darkness.

Slip-ups occurred in written correspondence regarding the gas chambers
themselves, some of which, fortunately, escaped destruction and were found
after the war. A memo written to SS man Karl Bischoff on November 27, 1942
describes the gas chamber in Krema II not with the usual mundane name of
"Leichenkeller," but rather as the "Sonderkeller" "special cellar."

And two months later, on January 29, 1943, Bischoff wrote a memo to
Kammler, referring to that same chamber as the "Vergasungskeller." (See
Gutman, Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp, 1994, pp. 223, 227.)
"Vergasungskeller" means exactly what it sounds like: "gassing cellar," an
underground gas chamber.

Holocaust-deniers turn to Arthur Butz, who provides a specious explanation
for the Vergasungskeller: "Vergasung," he says, cannot refer to killing
people with gas, but only to the process of converting a solid or liquid
into gas. Therefore, he says the "Vergasungskeller," must have been a
special room where the fuel for the Auschwitz ovens was converted into
gas -- a "gasification cellar."

There are three problems with this explanation. First, "Vergasung"
certainly can refer to killing people with gas; Butz does not speak German
and he should not try to lecture about the language. Second, there is no
room that could possibly serve this function which Butz describes -- years
after writing his book, he admitted this, and helplessly suggested that
there might be another building somewhere in the camp that might house a
gasification cellar. Third, the type of oven used at Auschwitz did not
require any gasification process! The ovens burned solid fuel. (See Gutman,
op. cit., pp. 184-193.)

So what does the term "gassing cellar" refer to? Holocaust-deniers have
yet to offer any believable explanation.

An inventory, again captured after the war, revealed fourteen showerheads
and one gas-tight door listed for the gas chamber in Krema III.
Holocaust-deniers claim that room was a morgue; they do not offer to explain
what use a morgue has for showerheads and a gas-tight door. (See a
photograph of the document, or Pressac, Auschwitz: Technique and Operation,
1989, pp. 231, 438.)

A memo from the Auschwitz construction office, dated March 31, 1943, says
(Hilberg, Documents of Destruction, 1971, pp. 207-208):

We take this occasion to refer to another order of March 6, 1943, for
the delivery of a gas door 100/192 for Leichenkeller 1 of Krema III, Bw 30a,
which is to be built in the manner and according to the same measure as the
cellar door of the opposite Krema II, with peep hole of double 8 millimeter
glass encased in rubber. This order is to be viewed as especially urgent....

Why would morgues have urgently needed peepholes made out of a double
layer of third-of-an-inch-thick glass?

The question of whether it can be proved that the cyanide gas was used in
the Auschwitz gas chambers has intruiged the deniers. Their much-heralded
Leuchter Report, for example, expends a great deal of effort on the question
of whether traces of cyanide residue remain there today. But we do not need
to look for chemical traces to confirm cyanide use (Gutman, op. cit., p.
229):

Letters and telegrams exchanged on February 11 and 12 [1943] between the
Zentralbauleitung and Topf mention a wooden blower for Leichenkeller 1. This
reference confirms the use of the morgue as a gas chamber: Bischoff and
Prüfer thought that the extraction of air mixed with concentrated prussic
acid [cyanide] (20 g per cu m) required a noncorroding ventilator.

Bischoff and Prüfer turned out to be wrong, and a metal fan ended up
working acceptably well. But the fact that they thought it necessary
demonstrates that cyanide was to be routinely used in the rooms which
deniers call morgues. (Cyanide is useless for disinfecting morgues, as it
does not kill bacteria.)

Other captured documents, even if they don't refer directly to some part
of the extermination process, refer to it by implication. A captured memo to
SS-Brigadeführer Kammler reveals that the expected incineration capacity of
the Auschwitz ovens was a combined total of 4,756 corpses per day (see a
photograph of the document or Kogon, op. cit., p. 157).

Deniers often claim that this total could not be achieved in practice (see
question 45). That's not the point. These crematoria were carefully
designed, in 1942, to have sufficient capacity to dispose of 140,000 corpses
per month -- in a camp that housed only 125,000. We can conclude that
massive deaths were predicted, indeed planned-for, as early as mid-1942. A
camp designed to incinerate its full capacity of inmates every four weeks is
not merely a detention center.

Finally, apart from the abundant testimonies, confessions, and physical
evidence of the extermination process, there is certainly no want of
evidence of the Nazis' intentions and plans.

Here are just a few examples. Hans Frank's diary (from Nazi Conspiracy and
Aggression, 1946, Vol. I, pp. 992, 994):

But what should be done with the Jews? Do you think they will be settled
down in the 'Ostland' [eastern territories], in [resettlement] villages?
This is what we were told in Berlin: Why all this bother? We can do nothing
with them either in the 'Ostland' nor in the 'Reichkommissariat.' So
liquidate them yourself.

Gentlemen, I must ask you to rid yourself of all feeling of pity. We
must annihilate the Jews, wherever we find them and wherever it is possible,
in order to maintain the structure of the Reich as a whole. ...

We cannot shoot or poison these 3,500,000 Jews, but we shall
nevertheless be able to take measures, which will lead, somehow, to their
annihilation....

That we sentence 1,200,000 Jews to die of hunger should be noted only
marginally.

Himmler's speech at Posen on October 4, 1943 was captured on audiotape
(Trial of the Major War Criminals, 1948, Vol. XXIX, p. 145, trans. by
current author):

I refer now to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the
Jewish people. This is one of those things that is easily said: "the Jewish
people are being exterminated," says every Party member, "quite true, it's
part of our plans, the elimination of the Jews, extermination, we're doing
it."

The extermination effort was even mentioned in at least one official Nazi
court verdict. In May 1943, a Munich court wrote in its decision against
SS-Untersturmführer Max Taubner that:

The accused shall not be punished because of the actions against the
Jews as such. The Jews have to be exterminated and none of the Jews that
were killed is any great loss. Although the accused should have recognized
that the extermination of the Jews was the duty of Kommandos which were set
up especially for this purpose, he should be excused for considering himself
to have the authority to take part in the extermination of Jewry himself.

And Hitler spoke quite clearly in public on no fewer than three occasions.
On January 30, 1939, seven months before Germany invaded Poland, he spoke
publicly to the Reichstag (transcribed from Skeptic magazine, Vol. 2, No. 4,
p. 50):

Today I want to be a prophet once more: if international finance Jewry
inside and outside of Europe should succeed once more in plunging nations
into another world war, the consequence will not be the Bolshevation of the
earth and thereby the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish
race in Europe.

By the way, this last phrase is, in German, "die Vernichtung der jüdischen
Rasse in Europa," which German-speakers will realize is quite unambiguous.

In September, 1942:

...if Jewry should plot another world war in order to exterminate the
Aryan peoples in Europe, it would not be the Aryan people which would be
exterminated but Jewry...

On November 8, 1942:

You will recall the session of the Reichstag during which I declared: if
Jewry should imagine that it could bring about an international world war to
exterminate the European races, the result will not be the extermination of
the European races, but the extermination of Jewry in Europe. People always
laughed about me as a prophet. Of those who laughed then, countless numbers
no longer laugh today, and those who still laugh now will perhaps no longer
laugh a short time from now.

There are many other examples of documents and testimonies that could be
presented.

Keep in mind that the IHR's answer to "what proof exists?" is "none." It
has certainly been demonstrated already that this pat answer is totally
dishonest. And this is the main point we wish to communicate: that
Holocaust-denial is dishonest.

We continue by analyzing the remaining, more-specific, claims about what
evidence supposedly does not exist.


a.. "No mounds of ashes" is an internal contradiction. In an article in
the journal published by the same IHR that publishes these Q&A, the
Journal's editor reported that a Polish commission in 1946 found human ash
at the Treblinka death camp to a depth of over twenty feet. This article is
available on The IHR's web site.
(Apparently some survivors claimed that the corpses were always thoroughly
cremated. Because uncremated human remains were mixed with the ash, the
editor suggested that the testimonies were false. Amazingly, he had no
comment on how a twenty-foot layer of human ashes came to be there in the
first place. Perhaps he felt that to be unworthy of mention.)

There are also piles of ashes at Maidanek. At Auschwitz-Birkenau, ashes
from cremated corpses were dumped into the rivers and swamps surrounding the
camp, and used as fertilizer for nearby farmers' fields.


a.. "No crematoria" capable of disposing of millions of corpses?
Absolutely false, the crematoria were more than capable of the job,
according to both the Nazis' own internal memos and the testimony of
survivors. Holocaust-deniers deliberately confuse civilian, funeral-home
crematoria with the huge industrial ovens of the death camps. This is
discussed in much detail in the replies to questions 42 and 45.

a.. "No piles of clothes"? Apparently, the IHR considers piles of clothes
to be "hard evidence"! This is strange, because they do not deny the other
sorts of piles found at Nazi camps: piles of eyeglasses, piles of shoes (at
Auschwitz, Belzec, and Maidanek), piles of gold teeth, piles of burned
corpses, piles of unburned corpses, piles of artificial limbs (see
Swiebocka, Auschwitz: A History in Photographs, 1993, p. 210), piles of
human hair (ibid, p. 211), piles of ransacked luggage (ibid, p. 213), piles
of shaving-brushes (ibid, p. 215), piles of combs (ibid), piles of pots and
pans (ibid), and yes, even the piles of clothes (ibid, p. 214) that the IHR
claims do not exist.
Perhaps the authors of the 66 Q&A realized that it was dangerous for them
to admit that these piles were hard evidence, because then they would also
be forced to admit a number of other things as "hard evidence." Perhaps this
is why they removed this phrase from the revised 66 Q&A.

If items were not generally found in mass quantities, it is only because
the Nazis distributed them to the German population. A memo on this was
captured, revealing that they even redistributed women's underwear.


a.. "No human soap"? This is true, but misleading. Though there is some
evidence that soap was made from corpses on a very limited experimental
scale, the rumored "mass production" was never done, and no soap made from
human corpses is known to exist. However, there is sworn testimony, never
refuted, from British POWs and a German army official, stating that soap
experiments were performed, and the recipe for the soap was captured by the
Allies. To state flatly that the Nazis did not make soap from human beings
is incorrect.

a.. "No lamp shades made of human skin?" False -- lampshades and other
human-skin "ornaments" were introduced as evidence in both trials of Ilse
Koch, and were shown to a U.S. Senate investigation committee in the late
40s. We know they were made of human skin because they bore tattoos, and
because a microscopic forensic analysis of the items was performed. (A
detailed page on this is being prepared.)

a.. "No records"? This is nonsense (which may explain why this claim was
removed from the "revised" versions of the 66 Q&A). True, extermination by
gassing was always referred to with code-words, and those victims who
arrived at death camps only to be immediately gassed were not recorded in
any books. But there are slip-ups in the code-word usage that reveal the
true meanings, as already described. There are inventories and requisitions
for the Krema which reveal items anomalous with ordinary use but perfect for
mass homicidal gassing. There are deportation train records which, pieced
together, speak clearly. And so on. Several examples have been given above.

a.. "No credible demographic statistics"? This is the second internal
contradiction -- see question 2 and question 15. The Anglo-American
committee who studied the issue estimated the number of Jewish victims at
5.7 million. This was based on population statistics. Here is the exact
breakdown, country by country:
Germany 195,000
Austria 53,000
Czechoslovakia 255,000
Denmark 1,500
France 140,000
Belgium 57,000
Luxemburg 3,000
Norway 1,000
Holland 120,000
Italy 20,000
Yugoslavia 64,000
Greece 64,000
Bulgaria 5,000
Rumania 530,000
Hungary 200,000
Poland 3,271,000
USSR 1,050,000
Less dispersed refugees (308,000)
Total number of Jews killed 5,721,500


(This estimate was arrived at using population statistics, and not by adding
the number of casualties at each camp. These are also available -- for
instance, a separate file with the ruling of a German court regarding the
number of victims in Treblinka is available. The SS kept rather accurate
records, and many of the documents survived, reinforced by eyewitness
accounts).

Some estimates are lower, some are higher, but this is the magnitude in
question. In an article in CMU's student newspaper, the head of CMU's
History Department, Peter Stearns, is quoted as saying that newly discovered
documents -- especially in the former USSR -- indicate that the number of
victims is higher than six million. Other historians claim not much over
five million. The Encyclopedia of the Holocaust uses 5,596,000 as a minimum
and 5,860,000 as a maximum (Gutman, 1990, p. 1799).


a.. In summary:
"Revisionists" often claim, correctly, that the burden of proof is on
historians. The proof, of course, has been a matter of public record since
late 1945, and is available in libraries around the world. The burden has
been met, many, many times over. You've just seen a brief presentation of
some of the highlights of that immense body of proof; much more is readily
available.

To even argue that the Holocaust never happened is ludicrous. To claim
straight-faced that none of this proof even exists is beyond ludicrous, and
it is a clear example of "revisionist" dishonesty.
Topaz
2008-02-16 11:01:52 UTC
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http://www.adl.org/focus_sheets/focus_overview.html

"ADL is America's prime resource for information on organized bigotry.
The League collects and assesses a vast amount of information on
anti-Semites, racists and extremists. After carefully evaluating
information, ADL disseminates that information through books,
periodicals, videos, reports and other materials. The League also
monitors haters in cyberspace.."


http://www.adl.org/presrele/ASUS_12/2609_12.asp "[A]nti-Semites and
racists are using the Internet to recruit new members, get their
message out and open new channels of communication among sympathizers,
a report just released by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) reveals.
Hate Group Recruitment On the Internet shows how extremists are
exploiting the technology of the Internet, including the World Wide
Web and USENET, to attract supporters ... the ADL leaders said. "The
message is clear: we must monitor it..."

http://www.models-research.ie/publications/art/99-6.html ... Usenet
newsgroups such as alt.politics.white-power offer an opportunity to
recruit new members. Postings from newcomers can be followed up with
contact by direct email to encourage the newcomers to feel part of the
racist community. ...the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), monitor and
document hate activities on the Internet." <end>

http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/anti-semitism/internet.html

Newsgroup hate messages are more like anonymous phone calls or letters
that can be sent
simultaneously to hundreds or thousands of people. (To be consistent
with past practice, the ADL Audit counts such simultaneous hate
messages as one incident.)

http://people.brandeis.edu/~anti-defamation/committee/Hillel_monitoring.html

"ADL continuously monitors and documents Internet hate"

"THE ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE IS SEEKING STUDENT MEMBERS OF HILLEL WHO
ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING US MONITOR HATE ON THE INTERNET.

If your students are interested, all they need is a computer with
Internet access and the desire to volunteer time. Volunteers can
monitor the Internet on their own, wherever and whenever they
choose....

The Anti-Defamation League is requesting that volunteers monitor
publicly-available information on the Internet only. We are
particularly interested in finding out about threats of action,
announcements of upcoming events, specific information about extremist
individuals, written attacks on well-known Jewish institutions or
individuals, bigoted comments on current events, and links to new
hateful Web sites. Particular areas of the Internet that are of
concern to us are Web-based chat rooms and discussion boards, Internet
Relay Chat rooms, and USENET newsgroups. As appropriate, some
volunteers may be asked to look at specific chat rooms, bulletin
boards, or USENET newsgroups in addition to general monitoring duties.
... You and your students can play an important part by helping ADL.
Please contact us today!"

http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/hh-students/sst.htm
"Co-opting Modern Technology in the Struggle... It will also be useful
for developing a central database ... To that end, both B'nai Brith
Canada and the Massuah Instituite currently have sites on the World
Wide Web, and the services of the Nizkor Project will also be made
available... The Nizkor Project is a Holocaust information archive and
educational resource on the Internet to monitor and refute the
falsehoods, half-truths and misinformation distributed via this and
other media..."

http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/hoti/hoti2rex.htm
I. LEGAL/LEGISLATIVE:
1. The Government of Canada should:

A. Introduce amendments to the provisions of the Criminal Code
penalizing hate
propaganda

i. Remove the territorial limitation for the commission of the offence
and make the offence one of universal jurisdiction ii. Allow courts
to take judicial notice of any historically recognized act of genocide
iii. Expand the list of identifiable groups to include all
disadvantaged groups that are, after study, determined to be the
target of incitement to hatred iv. Penalize the downloading and
possession, on hard drives or floppy disks, of hate propaganda with
the intent to promote hatred.


v. Encouraging and supporting the Nizkor Project (www.nizkor.org) and
other
pro-active sites

4. Funding and Resources are required to:
i. Organize a dedicated group to train experts to monitor the net

http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
"The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is
a national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for
all Canadians."


http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/audit2001/audit2001-03.html

The Internet offers a variety of media, which the racial-nationalist
movement can use as recruiting tools. These include UseNet, which now
offers some 50-60,000 topical and interactive discussion groups
("newsgroups")...

I have devoted most of this discussion to UseNet and its topical
discussion groups, which I believe offer a more attractive recruiting
venue, and which provide significantly more evidence of
antisemitism...

According to a news release from the Government of Canada dated
October 15, 2001, the government, through its new Anti-Terrorism
legislation introduced at the end of 2001, announced its intention to
amend "…the Criminal Code to eliminate online hate propaganda and
create a new offence of mischief against places of religious worship
or religious property; and [amend] the Canadian Human Rights Act to
extend the prohibition against hate messages beyond telephone messages
to include all telecommunications technologies.


www.media-awareness.ca/eng/issues/internet/resource/matas.htm
By David Matas, Senior Legal Counsel
B'nai Brith Canada, 1997

"Posting to combat Holocaust denial is best exemplified by the Nizkor
project led by Ken McVay. The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith
Canada has a site more general in nature about combatting
anti-Semitism. ... Another form of non-legal response is withdrawal of
services. Access to the internet requires an internet access
provider. Internet access providers are commercial enterprises which
are free to offer, or to
decline to offer their services to whomever they want, provided they
are non-discriminatory. ... One common technique for combatting hate
speech is approaching those who would provide a platform for
hatemongers and asking them to withdraw the platform... the League for
Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada might ask the organization to
withdraw the invitation, explaining to them who the speaker is and why
the invitation is inappropriate. There is no reason why similar
techniques could not be
employed with phone companies and internet access providers."

http://bnaibrith.org/pr/brazil2.html

LANDMARK COURT DECISION CONVICTS HOLOCAUST DENIER IN BRAZIL
Washington, D.C. (November 7, 1996) - For the first time in Latin
America a Holocaust denier has been found guilty and sentenced to two
years in prison. The landmark decision of the High Court of Justice in
the southernmost Brazilian state of Rio Grande do Sul reversed a lower
court ruling and resulted in the conviction of Siegfried Ellwanger on
grounds that he violated the nation's constitution and penal code.

The president of B'nai B'rith in Brazil hailed the decision.
"Holocaust deniers such as Ellwanger seek to encourage racial and
religious divisions that are not compatible with our democratic
society," said Abrao Lowenthal. B'nai B'rith along with other Jewish
groups in Brazil brought Ellwanger to trial.

Because Ellwanger had no previous criminal record the court waived his
prison sentence and ordered him to perform three years of community
service and ordered him to stop publishing his racist material. Under
the ruling, Ellwanger's books will be confiscated and banned.
Ellwanger, who writes under the name "S.E. Castan," has written or
published 13
anti-Semitic books in Portuguese including the infamous The Elders of
the Protocols of Zion and Henry Ford's The International Jew. One of
Ellwanger's books is titled The Holocaust: Jewish or German."

The Jewish community of the state of Rio Grande do Sul, which brought
the case to court, was pleased with the verdict. According to their
attorney Helio Santana, a B'nai B'rith member, "Ellwanger has denied
the existence of concentration camps as well as the numbers of people
who died at the hands of Nazis and their collaborators. He tried to
twist reality by stating that the Holocaust was a big lie."

"B'nai B'rith International President Tommy P. Baer, a lawyer based in
Richmond, Virginia, hailed the decision. "This critical legal decision
has important ramifications for Brazil and all of Latin America. By
punishing this hatemonger, Brazil is working to meet a standard of
decency which will not tolerate bigotry and hatred."

The world's oldest and largest Jewish organization, B'nai B'rith has
members in 56 countries including Brazil and others throughout Latin
America.


http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/press/vancouver-sun.980408.html
The Vancouver Sun
April 8, 1998

"BC tel asked to cut off net Nazis' connection
William Boei, Sun Business Reporter Vancouver Sun"

"Fairview hosts a group of national and international "hate sites.."
... The propaganda they spread on the Internet rarely fails to get a
rise from Jewish and anti-racist groups. This time, a Winnipeg-based
branch of the B'nai Brith's League for Human Rights and Vancouver's
Canadian Anti-Racism Education and Research Society are asking BC Tel
to cut off Fairview's network connection to the Internet. ... Ken
McVay, a British Columbian who runs the Nizkor Project, a massive on-
line archive"

"B'nai Brith, incidentally, covers both ends of the anti-Net-Nazi
spectrum. It is asking BC Tel to sever Fairview from the Net, and it
collects donations for the Nizkor Project."



http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/

http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
tankfixer
2008-02-15 05:19:52 UTC
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Post by Hatto von Aquitanien
Post by Gandalf Grey
Post by Topaz
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:02:54 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"
Post by Gandalf Grey
No, my friend. I control my mind. The really sad thing about you is that
YOU are the one without control over his own mind. You've sold your mind
and your soul to one of the most evil ideologies the world has ever known.
"The man who is not opposed and vilified and slandered
Hitler, on the other hand, could not be vilified and slandered since he
really was a human monstrosity.
How many cities did the Germans nuke?
Don't start shit you can't finish..
Topaz
2008-02-16 00:31:57 UTC
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By Mark Weber
Much has already been written about Roosevelt's campaign of deception
and outright lies in getting the United States to intervene in the
Second World War prior to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in
December 1941. Roosevelt's aid to Britain and the Soviet Union in
violation of American neutrality and international law, his acts of
war against Germany in the Atlantic in an effort to provoke a German
declaration of war against the United States, his authorization of a
vast "dirty tricks" campaign against U.S. citizens by British
intelligence agents in violation of the Constitution, and his
provocations and ultimatums against Japan which brought on the attack
against Pearl Harbor-all this is extensively documented and reasonably
well known.[1]

Not so well known is the story of Roosevelt's enormous responsibility
for the outbreak of the Second World War itself. This essay focuses on
Roosevelt's secret campaign to provoke war in Europe prior to the
outbreak of hostilities in September 1939. It deals particularly with
his efforts to pressure Britain, France and Poland into war against
Germany in 1938 and 1939.

Franklin Roosevelt not only criminally involved America in a war which
had already engulfed Europe. He bears a grave responsibility before
history for the outbreak of the most destructive war of all time.

This paper relies heavily on a little-known collection of secret
Polish documents which fell into German hands when Warsaw was captured
in September 1939.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html
These documents clearly establish Roosevelt's crucial role in bringing
on the Second World War…

Poland had refused to even negotiate over self-determination for the
German city of Danzig and the ethnic German minority in the so-called
Polish Corridor. Hitler felt compelled to resort to arms when he did
in response to a growing Polish campaign of terror and dispossession
against the one and a half million ethnic Germans under Polish rule.
In my view, if ever a military action was justified, it was the German
campaign against Poland in 1939.

Poland's headstrong refusal to negotiate was made possible because of
a fateful blank check guarantee of military backing from Britain-a
pledge that ultimately proved completely worthless to the hapless
Poles. Considering the lightning swiftness of the victorious German
campaign, it is difficult to realize today that the Polish government
did not at all fear war with Germany. Poland's leaders foolishly
believed that German might was only an illusion. They were convinced
that their troops would occupy Berlin itself within a few weeks and
add further German territories to an enlarged Polish state. It is also
important to keep in mind that the purely localized conflict between
Germany and Poland was only transformed into a Europe-wide
conflagration by the British and French declarations of war against
Germany…

On 9 February 1938, the Polish Ambassador in Washington, Count Jerzy
Potocki, reported to the Foreign Minister in Warsaw on the Jewish role
in making American foreign policy:

The pressure of the Jews on President Roosevelt and on the State
Department is becoming ever more powerful ...
... The Jews are right now the leaders in creating a war psychosis
which would plunge the entire world into war and bring about general
catastrophe. This mood is becoming more and more apparent.
in their definition of democratic states, the Jews have also created
real chaos: they have mixed together the idea of democracy and
communism and have above all raised the banner of burning hatred
against Nazism.
This hatred has become a frenzy. It is propagated everywhere and by
every means: in theaters, in the cinema, and in the press. The Germans
are portrayed as a nation living under the arrogance of Hitler which
wants to conquer the whole world and drown all of humanity in an ocean
of blood.
In conversations with Jewish press representatives I have repeatedly
come up against the inexorable and convinced view that war is
inevitable. This international Jewry exploits every means of
propaganda to oppose any tendency towards any kind of consolidation
and understanding between nations. In this way, the conviction is
growing steadily but surely in public opinion here that the Germans
and their satellites, in the form of fascism, are enemies who must be
subdued by the 'democratic world.'…

Ambassador Potocki's report from Washington of 9 January 1939 dealt in
large part with President Roosevelt's annual address to Congress:
President Roosevelt acts on the assumption that the dictatorial
governments, above all Germany and Japan, only understand a policy of
force. Therefore he has decided to react to any future blows by
matching them. This has been demonstrated by the most recent measures
of the United States.
The American public is subject to an ever more alarming propaganda
which is under Jewish influence and continuously conjures up the
specter of the danger of war. Because of this the Americans have
strongly altered their views on foreign policy problems, in comparison
with last year.

Of all the documents in this collection, the most revealing is
probably the secret report by Ambassador Potocki of 12 January 1939
which dealt with the domestic situation in the United States. This
report is given here in full:

The feeling now prevailing in the United States is marked by a growing
hatred of Fascism and, above all, of Chancellor Hitler and everything
connected with Nazism. Propaganda is mostly in the hands of the Jews
who control almost 100 percent radio, film, daily and periodical
press. Although this propaganda is extremely coarse and presents
Germany as black as possible-above all religious persecution and
concentration camps are exploited-this propaganda is nevertheless
extremely effective since the public here is completely ignorant and
knows nothing of the situation in Europe…
It is interesting to note that in this extremely well-planned campaign
which is conducted above all against National Socialism, Soviet Russia
is almost completely excluded. If mentioned at all, it is only in a
friendly manner and things are presented in such a way as if Soviet
Russia were working with the bloc of democratic states. Thanks to the
clever propaganda the sympathy of the American public is completely on
the side of Red Spain.
Besides this propaganda, a war psychosis is being artificially
created. The American people are told that peace in Europe is hanging
only by a thread and that war is unavoidable. At the same time the
American people are unequivocally told that in case of a world war,
America must also take an active part in order to defend the slogans
of freedom and democracy in the world…

These groups of people who occupy the highest positions in the
American government and want to pose as representatives of 'true
Americanism' and 'defenders of democracy' are, in the last analysis,
connected by unbreakable ties with international Jewry.

For this Jewish international, which above all is concerned with the
interests of its race, to portray the President of the United States
as the 'idealist' champion on human rights was a very clever move. In
this manner they have created a dangerous hotbed for hatred and
hostility in this hemisphere and divided the world into two hostile
camps. The entire issue is worked out in a masterly manner. Roosevelt
has been given the foundation for activating American foreign policy,
and simultaneously has been procuring enormous military stocks for the
coming war, for which the Jews are striving very consciously. With
regard to domestic policy, it is very convenient to divert public
attention from anti-Semitism, which is constantly growing in the
United States, by talking about the necessity of defending religion
and individual liberty against the onslaught of Fascism.

On 16 January 1939, Polish Ambassador Potocki reported to the Warsaw
Foreign Ministry on another lengthy conversation he had with
Roosevelt's personal envoy, William Bullitt…

1. The vitalizing of foreign policy under the leadership of President
Roosevelt, who severely and unambiguously condemns totalitarian
countries.
2. United States preparations for war on sea, land and air will be
carried out at an accelerated pace and will consume the colossal sum
of 1.25 billion dollars.
3. It is the decided opinion of the President that France and Britain
must put an end to any sort of compromise with the totalitarian
countries. They must not get into any discussions aiming at any kind
of territorial changes.
4. They have the moral assurance that the United States will abandon
the policy of isolation and be prepared to intervene actively on the
side of Britain and France in case of war. America is ready to place
its whole wealth of money and raw materials at their disposal.

The Polish Ambassador to Paris, Juliusz (Jules) Lukasiewicz, sent a
top secret report to the Foreign Ministry in Warsaw at the beginning
of February 1939 which outlined U.S. policy towards Europe as
explained to him by William Bullitt:
A week ago, the Ambassador of the United States, William Bullitt
returned to Paris after a three months' leave in America. Meanwhile, I
have had two conversations with him which enable me to inform you of
his views regarding the European situation and to give a survey of
Washington's policy.
The international situation is regarded by official circles as
extremely serious and in constant danger of armed conflict. Those in
authority are of the opinion that if war should break out between
Britain and France on the one hand, and Germany and Italy on the
other, and should Britain and France be defeated, the Germans would
endanger the real interests of the United States on the American
continent. For this reason, one can foresee right from the beginning
the participation of the United States in the war on the side of
France and Britain, naturally some time after the outbreak of the war.
As Ambassador Bullitt expressed it: 'Should war break out we shall
certainly not take part in it at the beginning, but we shall finish
it.'

On 7 March 1939, Ambassador Potocki sent a remarkably lucid and
perceptive report on Roosevelt's foreign policy to his government in
Warsaw. This document was first made public when leading German
newspapers published it in German translation, along with a facsimile
reproduction of the first page of the Polish original, in their
editions of 28 October 1940. The main National Socialist party
newspaper, the Voelkischer Beobachter, published the Ambassador's
report with this observation:

The document itself needs no commentary. We do not know, and it does
not concern us, whether the internal American situation as reported by
the Polish diplomat is correct in every detail. That must be decided
by the American people alone. But in the interest of historical truth
it is important for us to show that the warmongering activities of
American diplomacy, especially in Europe, are once again revealed and
proven by this document. It still remains a secret just who, and for
what motives, have driven American diplomacy to this course. In any
case, the results have been disastrous for both Europe and America.
Europe was plunged into war and America has brought upon itself the
hostility of great nations which normally have no differences with the
American people and, indeed, have not been in conflict but have lived
for generations as friends and want to remain so…

While the Polish documents alone are conclusive proof of Roosevelt's
treacherous campaign to bring about world war, it is fortunate for
posterity that a substantial body of irrefutable complementary
evidence exists which confirms the conspiracy recorded in the
dispatches to Warsaw…

On 19 September 1938 -- that is, a year before the outbreak of war in
Europe-Roosevelt called Lindsay to a very secret meeting at the White
House. At the beginning of their long conversation, according to
Lindsay's confidential dispatch to London, Roosevelt "emphasized the
necessity of absolute secrecy. Nobody must know I had seen him and he
himself would tell nobody of the interview. I gathered not even the
State Department." The two discussed some secondary matters before
Roosevelt got to the main point of the conference. "This is the very
secret part of his communication and it must not be known to anyone
that he has even breathed a suggestion." The President told the
Ambassador that if news of the conversation was ever made public, it
could mean his impeachment. And no wonder. What Roosevelt proposed was
a cynically brazen but harebrained scheme to violate the U.S.
Constitution and dupe the American people.

The President said that if Britain and France "would find themselves
forced to war" against Germany, the United States would ultimately
also join. But this would require some clever maneuvering. Britain and
France should impose a total blockade against Germany without actually
declaring war and force other states (including neutrals) to abide by
it. This would certainly provoke some kind of German military
response, but it would also free Britain and France from having to
actually declare war. For propaganda purposes, the "blockade must be
based on loftiest humanitarian grounds and on the desire to wage
hostilities with minimum of suffering and the least possible loss of
life and property, and yet bring the enemy to his knees." Roosevelt
conceded that this would involve aerial bombardment, but "bombing from
the air was not the method of hostilities which caused really great
loss of life."

The important point was to "call it defensive measures or anything
plausible but avoid actual declaration of war." That way, Roosevelt
believed he could talk the American people into supporting war against
Germany, including shipments of weapons to Britain and France, by
insisting that the United States was still technically neutral in a
non-declared conflict. "This method of conducting war by blockade
would in his [Roosevelt's] opinion meet with approval of the United
States if its humanitarian purpose were strongly emphasized," Lindsay
reported.[19]

The American Ambassador to Italy, William Phillips, admitted in his
postwar memoirs that the Roosevelt administration was already
committed to going to war on the side of Britain and France in late
1938. "On this and many other occasions," Phillips wrote, "I would
like to have told him [Count Ciano, the Italian Foreign Minister]
frankly that in the event of a European war, the United States would
undoubtedly be involved on the side of the Allies. But in view of my
official position, I could not properly make such a statement without
instructions from Washington, and these I never received."[20]…

The fateful British pledge to Poland of 31 March 1939 to go to war
against Germany in case of a Polish-German conflict would not have
been made without strong pressure from the White House…

In their nationally syndicated column of 14 April 1939, the usually
very well informed Washington journalists Drew Pearson and Robert S.
Allen reported that on 16 March 1939 Roosevelt had "sent a virtual
ultimatum to Chamberlain" demanding that henceforth the British
government strongly oppose Germany. According to Pearson and Allen,
who completely supported Roosevelt's move, "the President warned that
Britain could expect no more support, moral or material through the
sale of airplanes, if the Munich policy continued."[22] Chamberlain
gave in and the next day, 17 March, ended Britain's policy of
cooperation with Germany in a speech at Birmingham bitterly denouncing
Hitler. Two weeks later the British government formally pledged itself
to war in case of German-Polish hostilities…

In a confidential telegram to Washington dated 9 April 1939, Bullitt
reported from Paris on another conversation with Ambassador
Lukasiewicz. He had told the Polish envoy that although U.S. law
prohibited direct financial aid to Poland, it might be possible to
circumvent its provisions. The Roosevelt administration might be able
to supply war planes to Poland indirectly through Britain. "The Polish
Ambassador asked me if it might not be possible for Poland to obtain
financial help and aeroplanes from the United States. I replied that I
believed the Johnson Act would forbid any loans from the United States
to Poland but added that it might be possible for England to purchase
planes for cash in the United States and turn them over to
Poland."[24]

On 25 April 1939, four months before the outbreak of war, Bullitt
called American newspaper columnist Karl von Wiegand, chief European
correspondent of the International News Service, to the U.S. embassy
in Paris and told him: "War in Europe has been decided upon. Poland
has the assurance of the support of Britain and France, and will yield
to no demands from Germany. America will be in the war soon after
Britain and France enter it."[25]

In a lengthy secret conversation at Hyde Park on 28 May 1939,
Roosevelt assured the former President of Czechoslovakia, Dr. Edvard
Benes, that America would actively intervene on the side of Britain
and France in the anticipated European war.[26]

In June 1939, Roosevelt secretly proposed to the British that the
United States should establish "a patrol over the waters of the
Western Atlantic with a view to denying them to the German Navy in the
event of war." The British Foreign Office record of this offer noted
that "although the proposal was vague and woolly and open to certain
objections, we assented informally as the patrol was to be operated in
our interests."[27]

Many years after the war, Georges Bonnet, the French Foreign Minister
in 1939, confirmed Bullitt's role as Roosevelt's deputy in pushing his
country into war. In a letter to Hamilton Fish dated 26 March 1971,
Bonnet wrote: "One thing is certain is that Bullitt in 1939 did
everything he could to make France enter the war."[28] An important
confirmation of the crucial role of Roosevelt and the Jews in pushing
Britain into war comes from the diary of James V. Forrestal, the first
U.S. Secretary of Defense. In his entry for 27 December 1945, he
wrote:

Played golf today with [former Ambassador] Joe Kennedy. I asked him
about his conversations with Roosevelt and [British Prime Minister]
Neville Chamberlain from 1938 on. He said Chamberlain's position in
1938 was that England had nothing with which to fight and that she
could not risk going to war with Hitler. Kennedy's view: That Hitler
would have fought Russia without any later conflict with England if it
had not been for [William] Bullitt's urging on Roosevelt in the summer
of 1939 that the Germans must be faced down about Poland; neither the
French nor the British would have made Poland a cause of war if it had
not been for the constant needling from Washington. Bullitt, he said,
kept telling Roosevelt that the Germans wouldn't fight; Kennedy that
they would, and that they would overrun Europe. Chamberlain, he says,
stated that America and the world Jews had forced England into the
war. In his telephone conversations with Roosevelt in the summer of
1939, the President kept telling him to put some iron up Chamberlain's
backside.[29]…

"In the West," the Ambassador told Szembek, "there are all kinds of
elements openly pushing for war: the Jews, the super-capitalists, the
arms dealers. Today they are all ready for a great business, because
they have found a place which can be set on fire: Danzig; and a nation
that is ready to fight: Poland. They want to do business on our backs.
They are indifferent to the destruction of our country. Indeed, since
everything will have to be rebuilt later on, they can profit from that
as well."[30]

On 24 August 1939, just a week before the outbreak of hostilities,
Chamberlain's closest advisor, Sir Horace Wilson, went to Ambassador
Kennedy with an urgent appeal from the British Prime Minister for
President Roosevelt. Regretting that Britain had unequivocally
obligated itself in March to Poland in case of war, Chamberlain now
turned in despair to Roosevelt as a last hope for peace. He wanted the
American President to "put pressure on the Poles" to change course at
this late hour and open negotiations with Germany. By telephone
Kennedy told the State Department that the British "felt that they
could not, given their obligations, do anything of this sort but that
we could." Presented with this extraordinary opportunity to possibly
save the peace of Europe, Roosevelt rejected Chamberlain's desperate
plea out of hand. At that, Kennedy reported, the Prime Minister lost
all hope. "The futility of it all," Chamberlain had told Kennedy, "is
the thing that is frightful. After all, we cannot save the Poles. We
can merely carry on a war of revenge that will mean the destruction of
all Europe."[31]…

But Roosevelt rejected out of hand this chance to save the peace of
Europe. To a close political crony, he called Kennedy's plea "the
silliest message to me that I have ever received." He complained to
Henry Morgenthau that his London Ambassador was nothing but a pain in
the neck: "Joe has been an appeaser and will always be an appeaser ...
If Germany and Italy made a good peace offer tomorrow, Joe would start
working on the King and his friend the Queen and from there on down to
get everybody to accept it."[33]

Infuriated at Kennedy's stubborn efforts to restore peace in Europe or
at least limit the conflict that had broken out, Roosevelt instructed
his Ambassador with a "personal" and "strictly confidential" telegram
on 11 September 1939 that any American peace effort was totally out of
the question. The Roosevelt government, it declared, "sees no
opportunity nor occasion for any peace move to be initiated by the
President of the United States. The people [sic] of the United States
would not support any move for peace initiated by this Government that
would consolidate or make possible a survival of a regime of force and
aggression."[34]

In the months before armed conflict broke out in Europe, perhaps the
most vigorous and prophetic American voice of warning against
President Roosevelt's campaign to incite war was that of Hamilton
Fish, a leading Republican congressman from New York. In a series of
hard-hitting radio speeches, Fish rallied considerable public opinion
against Roosevelt's deceptive war policy. Here are only a few excerpts
from some of those addresses.[35]

On 6 January 1939, Fish told a nationwide radio audience:
The inflammatory and provocative message of the President to Congress
and the world [given two days before] has unnecessarily alarmed the
American people and created, together with a barrage of propaganda
emanating from high New Deal officials, a war hysteria, dangerous to
the peace of America and the world. The only logical conclusion to
such speeches is another war fought overseas by American soldiers.

All the totalitarian nations referred to by President Roosevelt ...
haven't the faintest thought of making war on us or invading Latin
America.
I do not propose to mince words on such an issue, affecting the life,
liberty and happiness of our people. The time has come to call a halt
to the warmongers of the New Deal, backed by war profiteers,
Communists, and hysterical internationalists, who want us to
quarantine the world with American blood and money.
He [Roosevelt] evidently desires to whip up a frenzy of hate and war
psychosis as a red herring to take the minds of our people off their
own unsolved domestic problems. He visualizes hobgoblins and creates
in the public mind a fear of foreign invasions that exists only in his
own imagination.

On 5 March, Fish spoke to the country over the Columbia radio network:
The people of France and Great Britain want peace but our warmongers
are constantly inciting them to disregard the Munich Pact and resort
to the arbitrament of arms. If only we would stop meddling in foreign
lands the old nations of Europe would compose their own quarrels by
arbitration and the processes of peace, but apparently we won't let
them.

Fish addressed the listeners of the National Broadcasting Company
network on 5 April with these words:
The youth of America are again being prepared for another blood bath
in Europe in order to make the world safe for democracy.
If Hitler and the Nazi government regain Memel or Danzig, taken away
from Germany by the Versailles Treaty, and where the population is 90
percent German, why is it necessary to issue threats and denunciations
and incite our people to war? I would not sacrifice the life of one
American soldier for a half dozen Memels or Danzigs. We repudiated the
Versailles Treaty because it was based on greed and hatred, and as
long as its inequalities and injustices exist there are bound to be
wars of liberation.

The sooner certain provisions of the Versailles Treaty are scrapped
the better for the peace of the world.

I believe that if the areas that are distinctly German in population
are restored to Germany, except Alsace-Lorraine and the Tyrol, there
will be no war in western Europe. There may be a war between the Nazis
and the Communists, but if there is that is not our war or that of
Great Britain or France or any of the democracies.

New Deal spokesmen have stirred up war hysteria into a veritable
frenzy. The New Deal propaganda machine is working overtime to prepare
the minds of our people for war, who are already suffering from a bad
case of war jitters.

President Roosevelt is the number one warmonger in America, and is
largely responsible for the fear that pervades the Nation which has
given the stock market and the American people a bad case of the
jitters.

I accuse the administration of instigating war propaganda and hysteria
to cover up the failure and collapse of the New Deal policies, with 12
million unemployed and business confidence destroyed.

I believe we have far more to fear from our enemies from within than
we have from without. All the Communists are united in urging us to go
to war against Germany and Japan for the benefit of Soviet Russia.

Great Britain still expects every American to do her duty, by
preserving the British Empire and her colonies. The war profiteers,
munitions makers and international bankers are all set up for our
participation in a new world war.

On 21 April, Fish again spoke to the country over nationwide radio:

It is the duty of all those Americans who desire to keep out of
foreign entanglements and the rotten mess and war madness of Europe
and Asia to openly expose the war hysteria and propaganda that is
impelling us to armed conflict.

What we need in America is a stop war crusade, before we are forced
into a foreign war by internationalists and interventionists at
Washington, who seem to be more interested in solving world problems
rather than our own.

In his radio address of 26 May, Fish stated:
He [Roosevelt] should remember that the Congress has the sole power to
declare war and formulate the foreign policies of the United States.
The President has no such constitutional power. He is merely the
official organ to carry out the policies determined by the Congress.

Without knowing even who the combatants will be, we are informed
almost daily by the internationalists and interventionists in America
that we must participate in the next world war.

On 8 July 1939, Fish declared over the National Broadcasting Company
radio network:
If we must go to war, let it be in defense of America, but not in
defense of the munitions makers, war profiteers, Communists, to cover
up the failures of the New Deal, or to provide an alibi for a third
term.
It is well for all nations to know that we do not propose to go to war
over Danzig, power politics, foreign colonies, or the imperialistic
wars of Europe or anywhere in the world.

President Roosevelt could have done little to incite war in Europe
without help from powerful allies. Behind him stood the self-serving
international financial and Jewish interests bent on the destruction
of Germany. The principal organization which drummed up public support
for U.S. involvement in the European war prior to the Pearl Harbor
attack was the cleverly named "Committee to Defend America by Aiding
the Allies." President Roosevelt himself initiated its founding, and
top administration officials consulted frequently with Committee
leaders.[36]

Although headed for a time by an elderly small-town Kansas newspaper
publisher, William Allen White, the Committee was actually organized
by powerful financial interests which stood to profit tremendously
from loans to embattled Britain and from shrewd investments in giant
war industries in the United States.
At the end of 1940, West Virginia Senator Rush D. Holt issued a
detailed examination of the Committee which exposed the base interests
behind the idealistic-sounding slogans:
The Committee has powerful connections with banks, insurance
companies, financial investing firms, and industrial concerns. These
in turn exert influence on college presidents and professors, as well
as on newspapers, radio and other means of communication. One of the
powerful influences used by the group is the '400' and social set. The
story is a sordid picture of betrayal of public interest.
The powerful J.P. Morgan interest with its holdings in the British
Empire helped plan the organization and donated its first expense
money.

Some of the important figures active in the Committee were revealed by
Holt: Frederic R. Coudert, a paid war propagandist for the British
government in the U.S. during the First World War; Robert S. Allen of
the Pearson and Allen syndicated column; Henry R. Luce, the
influential publisher of Time, Life, and Fortune magazines; Fiorella
LaGuardia, the fiery half-Jewish Mayor of Now York City; Herbert
Lehman, the Jewish Governor of New York with important financial
holdings in war industries; and Frank Altschul, an officer in the
Jewish investment firm of Lazard Freres with extensive holdings in
munitions and military supply companies.

If the Committee succeeded in getting the U.S. into war, Holt warned,
"American boys will spill their blood for profiteers, politicians and
'paytriots.' If war comes, on the hands of the sponsors of the White
Committee will be blood-the blood of Americans killed in a needless
war."[37]

In March 1941 a list of most of the Committee's financial backers was
made public. It revealed the nature of the forces eager to bring
America into the European war. Powerful international banking
interests were well represented. J.P. Morgan, John W. Morgan, Thomas
W. Lamont and others of the great Morgan banking house were listed.
Other important names from the New York financial world included Mr.
and Mrs. Paul Mellon, Felix M. and James F. Warburg, and J. Malcolm
Forbes. Chicago department store owner and publisher Marshall Field
was a contributor, as was William Averill Harriman, the railroad and
investment millionaire who later served as Roosevelt's ambassador in
Moscow.

Of course, Jewish names made up a substantial portion of the long
list. Hollywood film czar Samuel Goldwyn of Goldwyn Studios was there,
along with David Dubinsky, the head of the International Ladies
Garment Workers Union. The William S. Paley Foundation, which had been
set up by the head of the giant Columbia Broadcasting System,
contributed to the Committee. The name of Mrs. Herbert H. Lehman, wife
of the New York Governor, was also on the list.[38]

Without an understanding of his intimate ties to organized Jewry,
Roosevelt's policies make little sense. As Jewish historian Lucy
Dawidowicz noted: "Roosevelt himself brought into his immediate circle
more Jews than any other President before or after him. Felix
Frankfurter, Bernard M. Baruch and Henry Morgenthau were his close
advisers. Benjamin V. Cohen, Samuel Rosenman and David K. Niles were
his friends and trusted aides."[39] This is perhaps not so remarkable
in light of Roosevelt's reportedly one-eighth Jewish ancestry.[40]

In his diary entry of 1 May 1941, Charles A. Lindbergh, the American
aviator hero and peace leader, nailed the coalition that was pushing
the United States into war:
The pressure for war is high and mounting. The people are opposed to
it, but the Administration seems to have 'the bit in its teeth' and
[is] hell-bent on its way to war. Most of the Jewish interests in the
country are behind war, and they control a huge part of our press and
radio and most of our motion pictures. There are also the
'intellectuals,' and the 'Anglophiles,' and the British agents who are
allowed free rein, the international financial interests, and many
others.[41]

Joseph Kennedy shared Lindbergh's apprehensions about Jewish power.
Before the outbreak of war he privately expressed concerns about "the
Jews who dominate our press" and world Jewry in general, which he
considered a threat to peace and prosperity. Shortly after the
beginning of hostilities, Kennedy lamented "the growing Jewish
influence in the press and in Washington demanding continuance of the
war "[42]

Roosevelt's efforts to get Poland, Britain and France into war against
Germany succeeded all too well. The result was untold death and misery
and destruction. When the fighting began, as Roosevelt had intended
and planned, the Polish and French leaders expected the American
president to at least make good on his assurances of backing in case
of war. But Roosevelt had not reckoned on the depth of peace sentiment
of the vast majority of Americans. So, in addition to deceiving his
own people, Roosevelt also let down those in Europe to whom he had
promised support.

Seldom in American history were the people as united in their views as
they were in late 1939 about staying out of war in Europe. When
hostilities began in September 1939, the Gallup poll showed 94 percent
of the American people against involvement in war. That figure rose to
96.5 percent in December before it began to decline slowly to about 80
percent in the Fall of 1941. (Today, there is hardly an issue that
even 60 or 70 percent of the people agree upon.)[43]

Roosevelt was, of course, quite aware of the intensity of popular
feeling on this issue. That is why he lied repeatedly to the American
people about his love of peace and his determination to keep the U.S.
out of war, while simultaneously doing everything in his power to
plunge Europe and America into war.

In a major 1940 re-election campaign speech, Roosevelt responded to
the growing fears of millions of Americans who suspected that their
President had secretly pledged United States support to Britain in its
war against Germany. These well-founded suspicions were based in part
on the publication in March of the captured Polish documents. The
speech of 23 October 1940 was broadcast from Philadelphia to the
nation on network radio. In the most emphatic language possible,
Roosevelt categorically denied that he had
pledged in some way the participation of the United States in some
foreign war. I give to you and to the people of this country this most
solemn assurance: There is no secret Treaty, no secret understanding
in any shape or form, direct or indirect, with any Government or any
other nation in any part of the world, to involve this nation in any
war or for any other purpose.[44]

We now know, of course, that this pious declaration was just another
one of Roosevelt's many brazen, bald-faced lies to the American
people.

Roosevelt's policies were more than just dishonest-they were criminal.
The Constitution of the United States grants authority only to the
Congress to make war and peace. And Congress had passed several major
laws to specifically insure U.S. neutrality in case of war in Europe.
Roosevelt continually violated his oath as President to uphold the
Constitution. If his secret policies had been known, the public demand
for his impeachment would very probably have been unstoppable.

The Watergate episode has made many Americans deeply conscious of the
fact that their presidents can act criminally. That affair forced
Richard Nixon to resign his presidency, and he is still widely
regarded as a criminal. No schools are named after him and his name
will never receive the respect that normally goes to every American
president. But Nixon's crimes pale into insignificance when compared
to those of Franklin Roosevelt. What were Nixon's lies compared to
those of Roosevelt? What is a burglary cover-up compared to an illegal
and secret campaign to bring about a major war?

Those who defend Roosevelt's record argue that he lied to the American
people for their own good-that he broke the law for lofty principles.
His deceit is considered permissible because the cause was noble,
while similar deception by presidents Johnson and Nixon, to name two,
is not. This is, of course, a hypocritical double standard. And the
argument doesn't speak very well for the democratic system. It implies
that the people are too dumb to understand their own best interests.
It further suggests that the best form of government is a kind of
benevolent liberal-democratic dictatorship.

Roosevelt's hatred for Hitler was deep, vehement, passionate-almost
personal. This was due in no small part to an abiding envy and
jealousy rooted in the great contrast between the two men, not only in
their personal characters but also in their records as national
leaders.

Superficially, the public fives of Roosevelt and Hitler were
astonishingly similar. Both assumed the leadership of their respective
countries at the beginning of 1933. They both faced the enormous
challenge of mass unemployment during a catastrophic worldwide
economic depression. Each became a powerful leader in a vast military
alliance during the most destructive war in history. Both men died
while still in office within a few weeks of each other in April 1945,
just before the end of the Second World War in Europe. But the
enormous contrasts in the lives of these two men are even more
remarkable.

Roosevelt was born into one of the wealthiest families in America. His
was a life utterly free of material worry. He took part in the First
World War from an office in Washington as UnderSecretary of the Navy.
Hitler, on the other hand, was born into a modest provinicial family.
As a young man he worked as an impoverished manual laborer. He served
in the First World War as a front line soldier in the hell of the
Western battleground. He was wounded many times and decorated for
bravery.

In spite of his charming manner and soothing rhetoric, Roosevelt
proved unable to master the great challenges facing America. Even
after four years of his presidency, millions remained unemployed,
undernourished and poorly housed in a vast land richly endowed with
all the resources for incomparable prosperity. The New Deal was
plagued with bitter strikes and bloody clashes between labor and
capital. Roosevelt did nothing to solve the country's deep, festering
racial problems which erupted repeatedly in riots and armed conflict.
The story was very different in Germany. Hitler rallied his people
behind a radical program that transformed Germany within a few years
from an economically ruined land on the edge of civil war into
Europe's powerhouse. Germany underwent a social, cultural and economic
rebirth without parallel in history. The contrast between the
personalities of Roosevelt and Hitler was simultaneously a contrast
between two diametrically different social-political systems and
ideologies.

And yet, it would be incorrect to characterize Roosevelt as merely a
cynical politician and front man for powerful alien interests.
Certainly he did not regard himself as an evil man. He sincerely
believed that he was doing the right and noble thing in pressuring
Britain and France into war against Germany. Like Wilson before him,
and others since, Roosevelt felt himself uniquely qualified and called
upon by destiny to reshape the world according to his vision of an
egalitarian, universalist democracy. He was convinced, as so many
American leaders have been, that the world could be saved from itself
by remodeling it after the United States.

Presidents like Wilson and Roosevelt view the world not as a complex
of different nations, races and cultures which must mutually respect
each others' separate collective identities in order to live together
in peace, but rather according to a selfrighteous missionary
perspective that divides the globe into morally good and evil
countries. In that scheme of things, America is the providentially
permanent leader of the forces of righteousness. Luckily, this view
just happens to correspond to the economic and political interests of
those who wield power in the United States.

President Roosevelt's War
In April 1941, Senator Gerald Nye of North Dakota prophetically
predicted that one day the Second World War would be remembered as
Roosevelt's war. "If we are ever involved in this war, it will be
called by future historians by only one title, 'the President's War,'
because every step of his since his Chicago quarantine speech [of 5
October 1937] has been toward war.[45]

The great American historian, Harry Elmer Barnes, believed that war
could probably have been prevented in 1939 if it had not been for
Roosevelt's meddling. "Indeed, there is fairly conclusive evidence
that, but for Mr. Roosevelt's pressure on Britain, France and Poland,
and his commitments to them before September 1939, especially to
Britain, and the irresponsible antics of his agent provocateur,
William C. Bullitt, there would probably have been no world war in
1939, or, perhaps, for many years thereafter."[46] In Revisionism: A
Key to Peace, Barnes wrote:

President Roosevelt had a major responsibility, both direct and
indirect, for the outbreak of war in Europe. He began to exert
pressure on France to stand up to Hitler as early as the German
reoccupation of the Rhineland in March 1936, months before he was
making his strongly isolationist speeches in the campaign of 1936.
This pressure on France, and also England, continued right down to the
coming of the war in September 1939. It gained volume and momentum
after the quarantine speech of October 1937. As the crisis approached
between Munich and the outbreak of war, Roosevelt pressed the Poles to
stand firm against any demands by Germany, and urged the English and
French to back up the Poles unflinchingly.
There is grave doubt that England would have gone to war in September
1939 had it not been for Roosevelt's encouragement and his assurances
that, in the event of war, the United States would enter on the side
of Britain just as soon as he could swing American public opinion
around to support intervention.
Roosevelt had abandoned all semblance of neutrality, even before war
broke out in 1939, and moved as speedily as was safe and feasible in
the face of anti-interventionist American public opinion to involve
this country in the European conflict.[47]

One of the most perceptive verdicts on Franklin Roosevelt's place in
history came from the pen of the great Swedish explorer and author,
Sven Hedin. During the war he wrote:

The question of the way it came to a new world war is not only to be
explained because of the foundation laid by the peace treaties of
1919, or in the suppression of Germany and her allies after the First
World War, or in the continuation of the ancient policies of Great
Britain and France. The decisive push came from the other side of the
Atlantic Ocean.
Roosevelt speaks of democracy and destroys it incessantly. He slanders
as undemocratic and un-American those who admonish him in the name of
peace and the preservation of the American way of life. He has made
democracy into a caricature rather than a model. He talks about
freedom of speech and silences those who don't hold his opinion.
He talks about freedom of religion and makes an alliance with
Bolshevism.
He talks about freedom from want, but cannot provide ten million of
his own people with work, bread or shelter. He talks about freedom
from the fear of war while working for war, not only for his own
people but for the world, by inciting his country against the Axis
powers when it might have united with them, and he thereby drove
millions to their deaths.
This war will go down in history as the war of President
Roosevelt.[48]

Officially orchestrated praise for Roosevelt as a great man of peace
cannot conceal forever his crucial role in pushing Europe into war in
1939.

* * * * *
It is now more than forty years since the events described here took
place. For many they are an irrelevant part of a best-forgotten past.
But the story of how Franklin Roosevelt engineered war in Europe is
very pertinent-particularly for Americans today. The lessons of the
past have never been more important than in this nuclear age. For
unless at least an aware minority understands how and why wars are
made, we will remain powerless to restrain the warmongers of our own
era.


Notes
1. See, for example: Charles A. Beard, President Roosevelt and
the Coming of the War 1941 (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1948);
William Henry Chamberlin, America's Second Crusade (Chicago: Regnery,
1952, 1962); Benjamin Colby, 'Twas a Famous Victory (New Rochelle,
N.Y.: Arlington House, 1979); Frederic R. Sanborn, Design for War (New
York: Devin-Adair, 1951); William Stevenson, A Man Called Intrepid
(New York: Ballantine Books, 1980); Charles C. Tansill, Back Door to
War (Chicago: Regnery, 1952); John Toland, Infamy: Pearl Harbor and
Its Aftermath (New York: Doubleday, 1982).
2. Saul Friedlander, Prelude to Downfall: Hitler and the United
States 1939-1941 (New York: Knopf, 1967), pp. 73-77; U.S., Congress,
House, Special Committee on Investigation of Un-American Activities in
the United States, 1940, Appendix, Part II, pp. 1054-1059.
3. Friedlander, pp. 75-76.
4. New York Times, 30 March 1940, p. 1.
5. Ibid., p. 4, and 31 March 1940, p. 1.
6. New York Times, 30 March 1940, p. 1. Baltimore Sun, 30 March
1940, p. 1.
7. A French-language edition was published in 1944 under the
title Comment Roosevelt est Entre en Guerre.
8. Tansill, "The United States and the Road to War in Europe," in
Harry Elmer Barnes (ed.), Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace (Caldwell,
Idaho: Caxton, 1953; reprint eds., New York: Greenwood, 1969 and
Torrance, Calif.: Institute for Historical Review [supplemented],
1982), p. 184 (note 292). Tansill also quoted from several of the
documents in his Back Door to War, pp. 450-51.
9. Harry Elmer Barnes, The Court Historians Versus Revisionism
(N.p.: privately printed, 1952), p. 10. This booklet is reprinted in
Barnes, Selected Revisionist Pamphlets (New York: Arno Press & The New
York Times, 1972), and in Barnes, The Barnes Trilogy (Torrance,
Calif.: Institute for Historical Review, 1979).
10. Chamberlin, p. 60.
11. Edward Raczynski, In Allied London (London: Weidenfeld and
Nicolson, 1963), p. 51.
12. Orville H. Bullitt (ad.), For the President: Personal and
Secret (Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1972), p. x1v [biographical
foreword]. See also Time, 26 October 1936, p. 24.
13. Current Biography 1940, ed. Maxine Block (New York: H.W.
Wilson, 1940), p. 122 ff.
14. Gisleher Wirsing, Der masslose Kontinent: Roosevelts Kampf um
die Weltherrschaft (Jena: E. Diederichs, 1942), p. 224.
15. Bullitt obituary in New York Times, 16 February 1967, p. 44.
16. Jack Alexander, "He Rose From the Rich," Saturday Evening
Post, 11 March 1939, p. 6. (Also see continuation in issue of 18 March
1939.) Bullitt's public views on the European scene and what should be
America's attitude toward it can be found in his Report to the
American People (Boston: Houghton Mifflin [Cambridge: Riverside
Press], 1940), the text of a speech he delivered, with the President's
blessing, under the auspices of the American Philosophical Society in
Independence Hall in Philadelphia shortly after the fall of France.
For sheer, hyperventilated stridency and emotionalist hysterics, this
anti-German polemic could hardly be topped, even given the similar
propensities of many other interventionists in government and the
press in those days.
17. Michael R. Beschloss, Kennedy and Roosevelt (New York: Norton,
1980), pp. 203-04.
18. Robert Dallek, Franklin D. Roosevelt and American Foreign
Policy 1932-1945 (New York: Oxford University Press, 1979), p. 31. See
also pp. 164-65.
19. Dispatch No. 349 of 20 September 1938 by Sir. R. Lindsay,
Documents on British Foreign Policy (ed. Ernest L. Woodward), Third
series, Vol. VII (London, 1954), pp. 627-29. See also: Joseph P. Lash,
Roosevelt and Churchill 1939-1941 (New York: Norton, 1976), pp. 25-27;
Dallek, pp. 164-65; Arnold A. Offner, America and the Ori-, gins of
World War II (Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1971), p. 61.
20. William Phillips, Ventures in Diplomacy (North Beverly, Mass.:
privately published, 1952), pp. 220-21.
21. Carl Burckhardt, Meine Danziger Mission 1937-1939 (Munich:
Callwey, 1960), p. 225.
22. Drew Pearson and Robert S. Allen, "Washington Daily
Merry-Go-Round," Washington Times-Herald, 14 April 1939, p. 16. A
facsimile reprint of this column appears in Conrad Grieb (ed.),
American Manifest Destiny and The Holocausts (New York: Examiner
Books, 1979), pp. 132-33. See also: Wirsing, pp. 238-41.
23. Jay P. Moffat, The Moffat Papers 1919-1943 (Cambridge: Harvard
University Press, 1956), p. 232.
24. U.S., Department of State, Foreign Relations of the United
States (Diplomatic Papers), 1939, General, Vol. I (Washington: 1956),
p. 122.
25. "Von Wiegand Says-," Chicago Herald-American, 8 October 1944,
p. 2.
26. Edvard Benes, Memoirs of Dr. Eduard Benes (London: George
Allen & Unwin, 1954), pp. 79-80.
27. Lash, p. 64.
28. Hamilton Fish, FDR: The Other Side of the Coin (Now York:
Vantage, 1976; Torrance, Calif.: Institute for Historical Review,
1980), p. 62.
29. James V. Forrestal (ads. Walter Millis and E.S. Duffield), The
Forrestal Diaries (New York: Viking, 1951), pp. 121-22. I have been
privately informed by a colleague who has examined the original
manuscript of the Forrestal diaries that many very critical references
to the Jews were deleted from the published version.
30. Jan Szembek, Journal 1933-1939 (Paris: Plan, 1952), pp.
475-76.
31. David E. Koskoff, Joseph P. Kennedy: A Life and Times
(Englewood Cliffs, N.J.: Prentice-Hall, 1974), p. 207; Moffat, p. 253;
A.J.P. Taylor, The Origins of the Second World War (London: Hamish
Hamilton, 1961; 2nd ed. Greenwich, Conn.: Fawcett Premier [paperback],
1965), p. 262; U.S., Department of State, Foreign Relations of the
United States, 1939, General, Vol. I (Washington: 1956), p. 355.
32. Dallek, p. 164.
33. Beschloss, pp. 190-91; Lash, p. 75; Koskoff, pp. 212-13.
34. Hull to Kennedy (No. 905), U.S., Department of State, Foreign
Relations of the United States, 1939, General, Vol. I (Washington:
1956), p. 424.
35. The radio addresses of Hamilton Fish quoted here were
published in the Congressional Record Appendix (Washington) as
follows: (6 January 1939) Vol. 84, Part 11, pp. 52-53; (5 March 1939)
same, pp. 846-47; (5 April 1939) Vol. 84, Part 12, pp. 1342-43; (21
April 1939) same, pp. 1642-43; (26 May 1939) Vol. 84, Part 13, pp.
2288-89; (8 July 1939) same, pp. 3127-28.
36. Wayne S. Cole, Charles A. Lindbergh and the Battle Against
American Intervention in World War II (New York: Harcourt Brace
Jovanovich, 1974), pp. 128, 136-39.
37. Congressional Record Appendix (Washington: 1941), (30 December
1940) Vol. 86, Part 18, pp. 7019-25. See also: Appendix, Vol. 86, Part
17, pp. 5808-14.
38. New York Times, 11 March 1941, p. 10.
39. Lucy Dawidowicz, "American Jews and the Holocaust," The New
York Times Magazine, 18 April 1982, p. 102.
40. "FDR 'had a Jewish great-grandmother'" Jewish Chronicle
(London), 5 February 1982, p. 3.
41. Charles A. Lindbergh, The Wartime Journals of Charles A.
Lindbergh (New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1970), p. 481.
42. Koskoff, pp. 282, 212. The role of the American press in
fomenting hatred against Germany between 1933 and 1939 is a subject
that deserves much more detailed treatment. Charles Tansill provides
some useful information on this in Back Door to War. The essay by
Professor Hans A. Muenster, "Die Kriegsschuld der Presse der USA" in
Kriegsschuld und Presse, published in 1944 by the German
Reichsdozentenfuehrung, is worth consulting.
43. An excellent essay relating and contrasting American public
opinion measurements to Roosevelt's foreign policy moves in 1939-41 is
Harry Elmer Barnes, Was Roosevelt Pushed Into War By Popular Demand in
1941? (N.p.: privately printed, 1951). It is reprinted in Barnes,
Selected Revisionist Pamphlets.
44. Lash, p. 240.
45. New York Times, 27 April 1941, p. 19.
46. Harry Elmer Barnes, The Struggle Against the Historical
Blackout, 2nd ed. (N.p.: privately published, ca. 1948), p. 12. See
also the 9th, final revised and enlarged edition (N.p.: privately
published, ca. 1954), p. 34; this booklet is reprinted in Barnes,
Selected Revisionist Pamphlets.
47. Harry Elmer Barnes, "Revisionism: A Key to Peace," Rampart
Journal of Individualist Thought Vol. II, No. 1 (Spring 1966), pp.
29-30. This article was republished in Barnes, Revisionism: A Key to
Peace and Other Essays (San Francisco: Cato Institute [Cato Paper No.
12], 1980).
48. Sven Hedin, Amerika im Kampf der Kontinente (Leipzig: F.A.
Brockhaus, 1943), p. 54.

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Listed here are the published editions of the Polish documents, the
most important sources touching on the questions of their authenticity
and content, and essential recent sources on what President Roosevelt
was really-as opposed to publicly-doing and thinking during the
prelude to war. Full citations for all references in the article will
be found in the notes.
Beschloss, Michael R. Kennedy and Roosevelt. New York: Norton, 1980.
Bullitt, Orville H. (ed.). For the President: Personal and Secret.
[Correspondence between Franklin D. Roosevelt and William C. Bullitt.]
Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1972.
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Krieg: Geheimdokumente zur Kriegspolitik des Praesidenten der
Vereinigten Staaten. Berlin: Deutscher Verlag, 1943.
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Kriegs. [White Book No. 3.] Berlin: F. Eher, 1940.
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Cliffs, N.J.: Prentice-Hall, 1974.
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Gandalf Grey
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By Mark Weber
Much has already been written about Roosevelt's campaign of deception
and outright lies in getting the United States to intervene in the
Second World War prior to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in
December 1941.
Yes, a lot of lies. But then, Pearl Harbor was real: "a day that will live
in infamy" when the Japanese as part of the evil axis staged a sneak attack
on America.
Topaz
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Here is part of Hitler's speech at Rheinmetall-Borsig Works, Berlin,
on December 10, 1940:

"In this Anglo-French world there exists, as it were, democracy, which
means the rule of the people by the people. Now the people must
possess some means of giving expression to their thoughts or their
wishes. Examining this problem more closely, we see that the people
themselves have originally no convictions of their own. Their
convictions are formed, of course, just as everywhere else. The
decisive question is who enlightens the people, who educates them? In
those countries, it is actually capital that rules; that is, nothing
more than a clique of a few hundred men who possess untold wealth and,
as a consequence of the peculiar structure of their national life, are
more or less independent and free. They say: 'Here we have liberty.'
By this they mean, above all, an uncontrolled economy, and by an
uncontrolled economy, the freedom not only to acquire capital but to
make absolutely free use of it. That means freedom from national
control or control by the people both in the acquisition of capital
and in its employment. This is really what they mean when they speak
of liberty. These capitalists create their own press and then speak of
the 'freedom of the press.'

In reality, every one of the newspapers has a master, and in every
case this master is the capitalist, the owner. This master, not the
editor, is the one who directs the policy of the paper. If the editor
tries to write other than what suits the master, he is ousted the next
day. This press, which is the absolutely submissive and characterless
slave of the owners, molds public opinion. Public opinion thus
mobilized by them is, in its turn, split up into political parties.
The difference between these parties is as small as it formerly was in
Germany. You know them, of course - the old parties. They were always
one and the same. In Britain matters are usually so arranged that
families are divided up, one member being a conservative, another a
liberal, and a third belonging to the labor party. Actually, all three
sit together as members of the family, decide upon their common
attitude and determine it. A further point is that the 'elected
people' actually form a community which operates and controls all
these organizations. For this reason, the opposition in England is
really always the same, for on all essential matters in which the
opposition has to make itself felt, the parties are always in
agreement. They have one and the same conviction and through the
medium of the press mold public opinion along corresponding lines. One
might well believe that in these countries of liberty and riches, the
people must possess an unlimited degree of prosperity. But no! On the
contrary, it is precisely in these countries that the distress of the
masses is greater than anywhere else. Such is the case in 'rich
Britain.'

She controls sixteen million square miles. In India, for example, a
hundred million colonial workers with a wretched standard of living
must labor for her. One might think, perhaps, that at least in England
itself every person must have his share of these riches. By no means!
In that country class distinction is the crassest imaginable. There is
poverty - incredible poverty - on the one side, and equally incredible
wealth on the other. They have not solved a single problem. The
workmen of that country which possesses more than one-sixth of the
globe and of the world's natural resources dwell in misery, and the
masses of the people are poorly clad.. In a country which ought to
have more than enough bread and every sort of fruit, we find millions
of the lower classes who have not even enough to fill their stomachs,
and go about hungry. A nation which could provide work for the whole
world must acknowledge the fact that it cannot even abolish
unemployment at home. For decades this rich Britain has had two and a
half million unemployed; rich America, ten to thirteen millions, year
after year; France, six, seven, and eight hundred thousand. Well, my
fellow-countrymen - what then are we to say about ourselves?
It is self-evident that where this democracy rules, the people as such
are not taken into consideration at all. The only thing that matters
is the existence of a few hundred gigantic capitalists who own all the
factories and their stock and, through them, control the people. The
masses of the people do not interest them in the least. They are
interested in them just as were our bourgeois parties in former times
- only when elections are being held, when they need votes. Otherwise,
the life of the masses is a matter of complete indifference to them.

To this must be added the difference in education. Is it not ludicrous
to hear a member of the British Labor Party - who, of course, as a
member of the Opposition is officially paid by the government - say:
'When the war is over, we will do something in social respects'?
It is the members of Parliament who are the directors of the business
concerns - just as used to be the case with us. But we have abolished
all that. A member of the Reichstag cannot belong to a Board of
Directors, except as a purely honorary member. He is prohibited from
accepting any emolument, financial or otherwise. This is not the case
in other countries.

They reply: 'That is why our form of government is sacred to us.' I
can well believe it, for that form of government certainly pays very
well.. But whether it is sacred to the mass of the people as well is
another matter.

The people as a whole definitely suffer. I do not consider it possible
in the long run for one man to work and toil for a whole year in
return for ridiculous wages, while another jumps into an express train
once a year and pockets enormous sums. Such conditions are a disgrace.
On the other hand, we National Socialists equally oppose the theory
that all men are equals. Today, when a man of genius makes some
astounding invention and enormously benefits his country by his
brains, we pay him his due, for he has really accomplished something
and been of use to his country. However, we hope to make it impossible
for idle drones to inhabit this country.

I could continue to cite examples indefinitely. The fact remains that
two worlds are face to face with one another. Our opponents are quite
right when they say: 'Nothing can reconcile us to the National
Socialist world.' How could a narrow-minded capitalist ever agree to
my principles? It would be easier for the Devil to go to church and
cross himself with holy water than for these people to comprehend the
ideas which are accepted facts to us today. But we have solved our
problems.

To take another instance where we are condemned: They claim to be
fighting for the maintenance of the gold standard as the currency
basis. That I can well believe, for the gold is in their hands. We,
too, once had gold, but it was stolen and extorted from us. When I
came to power, it was not malice which made me abandon the gold
standard. Germany simply had no gold left. Consequently, quitting the
gold standard presented no difficulties, for it is always easy to part
with what one does not have. We had no gold. We had no foreign
exchange. They had all been stolen and extorted from us during the
previous fifteen years. But, my fellow countrymen, I did not regret
it, for we have constructed our economic system on a wholly different
basis. In our eyes, gold is not of value in itself. It is only an
agent by which nations can be suppressed and dominated.
When I took over the government, I had only one hope on which to
build, namely, the efficiency and ability of the German nation and the
German workingman; the intelligence of our inventors, engineers,
technicians, chemists, and so forth. I built on the strength which
animates our economic system. One simple question faced me: Are we to
perish because we have no gold; am I to believe in a phantom which
spells our destruction? I championed the opposite opinion: Even though
we have no gold, we have capacity for work.

The German capacity for work is our gold and our capital, and with
this gold I can compete successfully with any power in the world. We
want to live in houses which have to be built. Hence, the workers must
build them, and the raw materials required must be procured by work.
My whole economic system has been built up on the conception of work.
We have solved our problems while, amazingly enough, the capitalist
countries and their currencies have suffered bankruptcy.

Sterling can find no market today. Throw it at any one and he will
step aside to avoid being hit. But our Reichsmark, which is backed by
no gold, has remained stable. Why? It has no gold cover; it is backed
by you and by your work. You have helped me to keep the mark stable.
German currency, with no gold coverage, is worth more today than gold
itself. It signifies unceasing production. This we owe to the German
farmer, who has worked from daybreak till nightfall. This we owe to
the German worker, who has given us his whole strength. The whole
problem has been solved in one instant, as if by magic.
My dear friends, if I had stated publicly eight or nine years ago: 'In
seven or eight years the problem of how to provide work for the
unemployed will be solved, and the problem then will be where to find
workers,' I should have harmed my cause. Every one would have
declared: 'The man is mad. It is useless to talk to him, much less to
support him. Nobody should vote for him. He is a fantastic creature.'
Today, however, all this has come true. Today, the only question for
us is where to find workers. That, my fellow countrymen, is the
blessing which work brings.

Work alone can create new work; money cannot create work. Work alone
can create values, values with which to reward those who work. The
work of one man makes it possible for another to live and continue to
work. And when we have mobilized the working capacity of our people to
its utmost, each individual worker will receive more and more of the
world's goods.

We have incorporated seven million unemployed into our economic
system; we have transformed another six millions from part-time into
full-time workers; we are even working overtime. And all this is paid
for in cash in Reichsmarks which maintained their value in peacetime.
In wartime we had to ration its purchasing capacity, not in order to
devalue it, but simply to earmark a portion of our industry for war
production to guide us to victory in the struggle for the future of
Germany...

One thing is certain, my fellow-countrymen: All in all, we have today
a state with a different economic and political orientation from that
of the Western democracies.
Well, it must now be made possible for the British worker to travel.
It is remarkable that they should at last hit upon the idea that
traveling should be something not for millionaires alone, but for the
people too. In this country, the problem was solved some time ago. In
the other countries - as is shown by their whole economic structure -
the selfishness of a relatively small stratum rules under the mask of
democracy. This stratum is neither checked nor controlled by anyone.

It is therefore understandable if an Englishman says: 'We do not want
our world to be subject to any sort of collapse.' Quite so. The
English know full well that their Empire is not menaced by us. But
they say quite truthfully: 'If the ideas that are popular in Germany
are not completely eliminated, they might become popular among our own
people, and that is the danger. We do not want this.' It would do no
harm if they did become popular there, but these people are just as
narrow-minded as many once were in Germany. In this respect they
prefer to remain bound to their conservative methods. They do not wish
to depart from them, and do not conceal the fact.

They say, 'The German methods do not suit us at all.'
And what are these methods? You know, my comrades, that I have
destroyed nothing in Germany. I have always proceeded very carefully,
because I believe - as I have already said - that we cannot afford to
wreck anything. I am proud that the Revolution of 1933 was brought to
pass without breaking a single windowpane. Nevertheless, we have
wrought enormous changes.

I wish to put before you a few basic facts: The first is that in the
capitalistic democratic world the most important principle of economy
is that the people exist for trade and industry, and that these in
turn exist for capital. We have reversed this principle by making
capital exist for trade and industry, and trade and industry exist for
the people. In other words, the people come first. Everything else is
but a means to this end. When an economic system is not capable of
feeding and clothing a people, then it is bad, regardless of whether a
few hundred people say: 'As far as I am concerned it is good,
excellent; my dividends are splendid.'

However, the dividends do not interest me at all. Here we have drawn
the line. They may then retort: 'Well, look here, that is just what we
mean. You jeopardize liberty.'
Yes, certainly, we jeopardize the liberty to profiteer at the expense
of the community, and, if necessary, we even abolish it. British
capitalists, to mention only one instance, can pocket dividends of 76,
80, 95, 140, and even 160 per cent from their armament industry.
Naturally they say: 'If the German methods grow apace and should prove
victorious, this sort of thing will stop.'

They are perfectly right. I should never tolerate such a state of
affairs. In my eyes, a 6 per cent dividend is sufficient. Even from
this 6 per cent we deduct one-half and, as for the rest, we must have
definite proof that it is invested in the interest of the country as a
whole. In other words, no individual has the right to dispose
arbitrarily of money which ought to be invested for the good of the
country. If he disposes of it sensibly, well and good; if not, the
National Socialist state will intervene.

To take another instance, besides dividends there are the so-called
directors' fees. You probably have no idea how appallingly active a
board of directors is. Once a year its members have to make a journey.
They have to go to the station, get into a first-class compartment and
travel to some place or other. They arrive at an appointed office at
about 10 or 11 A.M. There they must listen to a report. When the
report has been read, they must listen to a few comments on it. They
may be kept in their seats until 1 P.M. or even 2. Shortly after 2
o'clock they rise from their chairs and set out on their homeward
journey, again, of course, traveling first class. It is hardly
surprising that they claim 3,000, 4,000, or even 5,000 as compensation
for this: Our directors formerly did the same - for what a lot of time
it costs them! Such effort had to be made worth while! Of course, we
have got rid of all this nonsense, which was merely veiled
profiteering and even bribery.
In Germany, the people, without any doubt, decide their existence.
They determine the principles of their government. In fact it has been
possible in this country to incorporate many of the broad masses into
the National Socialist party, that gigantic organization embracing
millions and having millions of officials drawn from the people
themselves. This principle is extended to the highest ranks.

For the first time in German history, we have a state which has
absolutely abolished all social prejudices in regard to political
appointments as well as in private life. I myself am the best proof of
this. Just imagine: I am not even a lawyer, and yet I am your Leader!
It is not only in ordinary life that we have succeeded in appointing
the best among the people for every position. We have
Reichsstatthalters who were formerly agricultural laborers or
locksmiths. Yes, we have even succeeded in breaking down prejudice in
a place where it was most deep-seated -in the fighting forces.
Thousands of officers are being promoted from the ranks today. We have
done away with prejudice. We have generals who were ordinary soldiers
and noncommissioned officers twenty-two and twenty-three years ago. In
this instance, too, we have overcome all social obstacles. Thus, we
are building up our life for the future.

As you know we have countless schools, national political educational
establishments, Adolf Hitler schools, and so on. To these schools we
send gifted children of the broad masses, children of working men,
farmers' sons whose parents could never have afforded a higher
education for their children. We take them in gradually. They are
educated here, sent to the Ordensburgen, to the Party, later to take
their place in the State where they will some day fill the highest
posts....

Opposed to this there stands a completely different world. In the
world the highest ideal is the struggle for wealth, for capital, for
family possessions, for personal egoism; everything else is merely a
means to such ends. Two worlds confront each other today. We know
perfectly well that if we are defeated in this war it would not only
be the end of our National Socialist work of reconstruction, but the
end of the German people as a whole. For without its powers of
coordination, the German people would starve. Today the masses
dependent on us number 120 or 130 millions, of which 85 millions alone
are our own people. We remain ever aware of this fact.

On the other hand, that other world says: 'If we lose, our world-wide
capitalistic system will collapse. For it is we who save hoarded gold.
It is lying in our cellars and will lose its value. If the idea that
work is the decisive factor spreads abroad, what will happen to us? We
shall have bought our gold in vain. Our whole claim to world dominion
can then no longer be maintained. The people will do away with their
dynasties of high finance. They will present their social claims, and
the whole world system will be overthrown.'
I can well understand that they declare: 'Let us prevent this at all
costs; it must be prevented.' They can see exactly how our nation has
been reconstructed. You see it clearly. For instance, there we see a
state ruled by a numerically small upper class. They send their sons
to their own schools, to Eton. We have Adolf Hitler schools or
national political educational establishments. On the one hand, the
sons of plutocrats, financial magnates; on the other, the children of
the people. Etonians and Harrovians exclusively in leading positions
over there; in this country, men of the people in charge of the State.
These are the two worlds. I grant that one of the two must succumb.
Yes, one or the other. But if we were to succumb, the German people
would succumb with us. If the other were to succumb, I am convinced
that the nations will become free for the first time. We are not
fighting individual Englishmen or Frenchmen. We have nothing against
them. For years I proclaimed this as the aim of my foreign policy. We
demanded nothing of them, nothing at all. When they started the war
they could not say: 'We are doing so because the Germans asked this or
that of us.' They said, on the contrary: 'We are declaring war on you
because the German system of Government does not suit us; because we
fear it might spread to our own people.' For that reason they are
carrying on this war. They wanted to blast the German nation back to
the time of Versailles, to the indescribable misery of those days. But
they have made a great mistake.

If in this war everything points to the fact that gold is fighting
against work, capitalism against peoples, and reaction against the
progress of humanity, then work, the peoples, and progress will be
victorious. Even the support of the Jewish race will not avail the
others.

I have seen all this coming for years. What did I ask of the other
world? Nothing but the right for Germans to reunite and the
restoration of all that had been taken from them - nothing which would
have meant a loss to the other nations. How often have I stretched out
my hand to them? Ever since I came into power. I had not the slightest
wish to rearm.
For what do armaments mean? They absorb so much labor. It was I who
regarded work as being of decisive importance, who wished to employ
the working capacity of Germany for other plans. I think the news is
already out that, after all, I have some fairly important plans in my
mind, vast and splendid plans for my people. It is my ambition to make
the German people rich and to make the German homeland beautiful. I
want the standard of living of the individual raised. I want us to
have the most beautiful and the finest civilization. I should like the
theater - in fact, the whole of German civilization - to benefit all
the people and not to exist only for the upper ten thousand, as is the
case in England.

The plans which we had in mind were tremendous, and I needed workers
in order to realize them. Armament only deprives me of workers. I made
proposals to limit armaments. I was ridiculed. The only answer I
received was 'No.' I proposed the limitation of certain types of
armament. That was refused. I proposed that airplanes should be
altogether eliminated from warfare. That also was refused. I suggested
that bombers should be limited. That was refused. They said: 'That is
just how we wish to force our regime upon you.' ...



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Here is part of Hitler's speech at Rheinmetall-Borsig Works, Berlin,
What proof exists that the Nazis practiced genocide or deliberately killed
six million Jews?



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1. What proof exists that the Nazis practiced genocide or deliberately
killed six million Jews?

The IHR says (original, Samisdat, and revised versions combined):

None. The only evidence is the postwar testimony of individual
"survivors." This testimony is contradictory, and no "survivor" claims to
have actually witnessed any gassing. There are no contemporaneous documents
and no hard evidence whatsoever: no mounds of ashes, no crematoria capable
of disposing of millions of corpses, no piles of clothes, no human soap, no
lamp shades made of human skin, no records, no credible demographic
statistics.

Nizkor replies:

Lie piled upon lie, with not a shred of proof.

This is as good a place as any to present some detailed evidence which is
consistently ignored, as a sort of primer on Holocaust denial. It will make
this reply much longer than the other sixty-five, but perhaps the reader
will understand the necessity for this.

Let's look at their claims one at a time:


a.. Supposedly the only evidence, "the postwar testimony of individual
survivors."
First of all, consider the implicit conspiracy theory. Notice how the
testimony of every single inmate of every Nazi camp is automatically
dismissed as unconvincing. This total dismissal of inmates' testimony, along
with the equally-total dismissal of the Nazis' own testimony (!), is the
largest unspoken assumption of Holocaust-denial.

This assumption, which is not often spelled out, is that the attempted
Jewish genocide never took place, but rather that a secret conspiracy of
Jews, starting around 1941, planted and forged myriad documents to prove
that it did; then, after the war, they rounded up all the camp survivors and
told them what to say.

The conspirators also supposedly managed to torture hundreds of key Nazis
into confessing to crimes which they never committed, or into framing their
fellow Nazis for those crimes, and to plant hundreds of documents in Nazi
files which were never discovered until after the war, and only then, in
many cases, by sheer luck. Goebbels' diary, for example, was barely rescued
from being sold as 7,000 pages of scrap paper, but buried in the scattered
manuscript were several telling entries (as translated in Lochner, The
Goebbels Diaries, 1948, pp. 86, 147-148):

February 14, 1942: The Führer once again expressed his determination to
clean up the Jews in Europe pitilessly. There must be no squeamish
sentimentalism about it. The Jews have deserved the catastrophe that has now
overtaken them. Their destruction will go hand in hand with the destruction
of our enemies. We must hasten this process with cold ruthlessness.

March 27, 1942: The procedure is a pretty barbaric one and not to be
described here more definitely. Not much will remain of the Jews. On the
whole it can be said that about 60 per cent of them will have to be
liquidated whereas only 40 per cent can be used for forced labor.

Michael Shermer has pointed out that the Nazis' own estimate of the number
of European Jews was eleven million, and sixty percent of eleven million is
6.6 million. This is fairly close to the actual figure. (Actually, forty
percent was a serious overestimate of the survival rate of Jews who were
captured, but there were many Jews who escaped.)

In any case, most of the diary is quite mundane, and interesting only to
historians. Did the supposed Jewish conspiracy forge seven thousand pages to
insert just a few lines? How did they manage to know Goebbels' affairs
intimately enough to avoid contradictions, e.g. putting him or his
associates in the wrong city at the wrong date?

As even the revisionist David Cole has admitted, revisionists have yet to
provide a satisfactory explanation of this document.

Regarding postwar testimony from Nazis, were they all tortured into
confessing to heinous crimes which they supposedly did not commit? This
might be believable if only a few Nazis were captured after the war, or
maybe if some had courageously stood up in court and shouted to the world
about the supposed attempt to silence them. But hundreds testified regarding
the Holocaust, in trials dating from late 1945 until the 1960s. (For
example, see Böck, Hofmann, Hössler, Klein, Münch, and Stark.)

Many of these Nazis testified as witnesses and were not accused of crimes.
What was the basis for their supposed coercion?

Many of these trials were in German courts. Did the Germans torture their
own countrymen? Well, Holocaust-deniers sometimes claim that the Jews have
secretly infiltrated the German government and control everything about it.
They prefer not to talk too much about this theory, however, because it is
clearly on the lunatic fringe.

The main point is that not one of these supposed torture victims -- in
fifty years, not one -- has come forth to support the claim that testimony
was coerced.

On the contrary, confirmation and reconfirmation of their testimony has
continued across the years. What coercion could have convinced Judge Konrad
Morgen to testify to the crimes he witnessed at the International Nuremberg
Trial in 1946, where he was not accused of any crime? And to later testify
at the Auschwitz trial at Frankfurt, Germany, in 1963-65? What coercion was
applied to SS Doctor Johann Kremer to make him testify in his own defense in
1947, and then, after having been convicted in both Poland and Germany,
emerge after his release to testify again as a witness at the Frankfurt
trial? What coercion was applied to Böck, Gerhard Hess, Hölblinger, Storch,
and Wiebeck, all former SS men, all witnesses at Frankfurt, none accused of
any crime there?

Holocaust-deniers point to small discrepancies in testimonies to try to
discredit them. The assumption, unstated, is that the reader will accept
minor discrepancies as evidence of a vast, over-reaching Jewish conspiracy.
This is clearly ludicrous.

In fact, the discrepancies and minor errors in detail argue against, not
for, the conspiracy theory. Why would the conspirators have given different
information to different Nazis? In fact, if all the testimonies, from the
Nazis' to the inmates', sounded too similar, it is certain that the
Holocaust-deniers would cite that as evidence of a conspiracy.

What supposed coercion could reach across four decades, to force former
SS-Untersturmführer Dr. Hans Münch to give an interview, against the will of
his family, on Swedish television? In the 1981 interview, he talked about
Auschwitz:

Interviewer: Isn't the ideology of extermination contrary to a doctor's
ethical values?

Münch: Yes, absolutely. There is no discussion. But I lived in that
environment, and I tried in every possible way to avoid accepting it, but I
had to live with it. What else could I have done? And I wasn't confronted
with it directly until the order came that I and my superior and another one
had to take part in the exterminations since the camp's doctors were
overloaded and couldn't cope with it.

Interviewer: I must ask something. Doubters claim that "special
treatment" could mean anything. It didn't have to be extermination.

Münch: "Special treatment" in the terminology of the concentration camp
means physical extermination. If it was a question of more than a few
people, where nothing else than gassing them was worthwhile, they were
gassed.

Interviewer: "Special treatment" was gassing?

Münch: Yes, absolutely.

And what supposed coercion could reach across four decades, to force
former SS-Unterscharführer Franz Suchomel into giving an interview for the
film Shoah? Speaking under (false) promises of anonymity, he told of the
crimes committed at the Treblinka death camp (from the book Shoah, Claude
Lanzmann, 1985, p. 54):

Interviewer: You are a very important eyewitness, and you can explain
what Treblinka was.

Suchomel: But don't use my name.

Interviewer: No, I promised. All right, you've arrived at Treblinka.

Suchomel: So Stadie, the sarge, showed us the camps from end to end.
Just as we went by, they were opening the gas-chamber doors, and people fell
out like potatoes. Naturally, that horrified and appalled us. We went back
and sat down on our suitcases and cried like old women.

Each day one hundred Jews were chosen to drag the corpses to the mass
graves. In the evening the Ukrainians drove those Jews into the gas chambers
or shot them. Every day!

Ask the deniers why they shrug off the testimony of Franz Suchomel. Greg
Raven will tell you that "it is not evidence...bring me some evidence,
please." Others will tell you that Suchomel and Münch were crazy, or
hallucinating, or fantasizing.

But the fantasy is obviously in the minds of those who choose to ignore
the mass of evidence and believe instead in a hypothetical conspiracy,
supported by nothing but their imaginations.

That total lack of evidence is why the "conspiracy assumption" almost
always remains an unspoken assumption. To our knowledge, there has not been
one single solitary "revisionist" paper, article, speech, pamphlet, book,
audiotape, videotape, or newsletter which provides any details about this
supposed Jewish/Zionist conspiracy which did all the dirty work. Not one.

At best, the denial literature makes veiled references to the World Jewish
Congress perpetuating a "hoax" (in Butz, 1976) -- no details are provided.
Yet the entire case of Holocaust-denial rests on this supposed conspiracy.

As for the testimony of the survivors, which the "revisionists" claim is
the only evidence, there are indeed numerous testimonies to gassings and
other forms of atrocities, from Jewish inmates who survived the camps, and
also from other inmates like POWs. Many of the prisoners that testified
about the gassing are not Jewish, of course. Look for instance at the
testimony of Polish officer Zenon Rozansky about the first homicidal gassing
in Auschwitz, in which 850 Russian POWs were gassed to death, in Reitlinger,
The Final Solution, p. 154:

Those who were propped against the door leant with a curious stiffness
and then fell right at our feet, striking their faces hard against the
concrete floor. Corpses! Corpses standing bolt upright and filling the
entire corridor of the bunker, till they were packed so tight that it was
impossible for more to fall.

Which of the "revisionists" will deny this? Which of them was there? Which
of them has the authority to tell Rozansky what he did or did not see?

The statement that "no 'survivor' claims to have actually witnessed any
gassing" is clearly false; this was changed to "few survivors" in later
versions, which is close to the truth.

But we do not need to rely solely on testimony, from the survivors, Nazis,
or otherwise. Many wartime documents, not postwar descriptions, specifically
regarding gassings and other atrocities, were seized by the U.S. armed
forces. Most are in the National Archives in Washington, D.C.; some are in
Germany.

Regarding the gassing vans, precursors to the gas chambers, we find, for
example, a top secret document from SS Untersturmführer Becker to SS
Obersturmbannführer Rauff (from Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression, 1946, Vol.
I, pp. 999-1001):

If it has rained for instance for only one half hour, the van cannot be
used because it simply skids away. It can only be used in absolutely dry
weather. It is only a question now whether the van can only be used standing
at the place of execution. First the van has to be brought to that place,
which is possible only in good weather. ...

The application of gas usually is not undertaken correctly. In order to
come to an end as fast as possible, the driver presses the accelerator to
the fullest extent. By doing that the persons to be executed suffer death
from suffocation and not death by dozing off as was planned. My directions
now have proved that by correct adjustment of the levers death comes faster
and the prisoners fall asleep peacefully.

And Just wrote of the gas vans to Rauff, on June 5, 1942, in a letter
marked both "top secret" and "only copy". This is a horrific masterpiece of
Nazi double-talk, referring to killing as "processing" and the victims as
"subjects" and "the load." (See Kogon, Nazi Mass Murder, 1993, pp. 228-235.)

Since December 1941, for example, 97,000 were processed using three
vans, without any faults occurring in the vehicles. ...

The normal capacity of the vans is nine to ten per square meter. The
capacity of the larger special Saurer vans is not so great. The problem is
not one of overloading but of off-road maneuverability on all terrains,
which is severely diminished in this van. It would appear that a reduction
in the cargo area is necessary. This can be achieved by shortening the
compartment by about one meter. The problem cannot be solved by merely
reducing the number of subject treated, as has been done so far. For in this
case a longer running time is required, as the empty space also needs to be
filled with CO [the poison exhaust gas]. ...

Greater protection is needed for the lighting system. The grille should
cover the lamps high enough up to make it impossible to break the bulbs. It
seems that these lamps are hardly ever turned on, so the users have
suggested that they could be done away with. Experience shows, however, that
when the back door is closed and it gets dark inside, the load pushes hard
against the door. The reason for this is that when it becomes dark inside,
the load rushes toward what little light remains. This hampers the locking
of the door. It has also been noticed that the noise provoked by the locking
of the door is linked to the fear aroused by the darkness.

Slip-ups occurred in written correspondence regarding the gas chambers
themselves, some of which, fortunately, escaped destruction and were found
after the war. A memo written to SS man Karl Bischoff on November 27, 1942
describes the gas chamber in Krema II not with the usual mundane name of
"Leichenkeller," but rather as the "Sonderkeller" "special cellar."

And two months later, on January 29, 1943, Bischoff wrote a memo to
Kammler, referring to that same chamber as the "Vergasungskeller." (See
Gutman, Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp, 1994, pp. 223, 227.)
"Vergasungskeller" means exactly what it sounds like: "gassing cellar," an
underground gas chamber.

Holocaust-deniers turn to Arthur Butz, who provides a specious explanation
for the Vergasungskeller: "Vergasung," he says, cannot refer to killing
people with gas, but only to the process of converting a solid or liquid
into gas. Therefore, he says the "Vergasungskeller," must have been a
special room where the fuel for the Auschwitz ovens was converted into
gas -- a "gasification cellar."

There are three problems with this explanation. First, "Vergasung"
certainly can refer to killing people with gas; Butz does not speak German
and he should not try to lecture about the language. Second, there is no
room that could possibly serve this function which Butz describes -- years
after writing his book, he admitted this, and helplessly suggested that
there might be another building somewhere in the camp that might house a
gasification cellar. Third, the type of oven used at Auschwitz did not
require any gasification process! The ovens burned solid fuel. (See Gutman,
op. cit., pp. 184-193.)

So what does the term "gassing cellar" refer to? Holocaust-deniers have
yet to offer any believable explanation.

An inventory, again captured after the war, revealed fourteen showerheads
and one gas-tight door listed for the gas chamber in Krema III.
Holocaust-deniers claim that room was a morgue; they do not offer to explain
what use a morgue has for showerheads and a gas-tight door. (See a
photograph of the document, or Pressac, Auschwitz: Technique and Operation,
1989, pp. 231, 438.)

A memo from the Auschwitz construction office, dated March 31, 1943, says
(Hilberg, Documents of Destruction, 1971, pp. 207-208):

We take this occasion to refer to another order of March 6, 1943, for
the delivery of a gas door 100/192 for Leichenkeller 1 of Krema III, Bw 30a,
which is to be built in the manner and according to the same measure as the
cellar door of the opposite Krema II, with peep hole of double 8 millimeter
glass encased in rubber. This order is to be viewed as especially urgent....

Why would morgues have urgently needed peepholes made out of a double
layer of third-of-an-inch-thick glass?

The question of whether it can be proved that the cyanide gas was used in
the Auschwitz gas chambers has intruiged the deniers. Their much-heralded
Leuchter Report, for example, expends a great deal of effort on the question
of whether traces of cyanide residue remain there today. But we do not need
to look for chemical traces to confirm cyanide use (Gutman, op. cit., p.
229):

Letters and telegrams exchanged on February 11 and 12 [1943] between the
Zentralbauleitung and Topf mention a wooden blower for Leichenkeller 1. This
reference confirms the use of the morgue as a gas chamber: Bischoff and
Prüfer thought that the extraction of air mixed with concentrated prussic
acid [cyanide] (20 g per cu m) required a noncorroding ventilator.

Bischoff and Prüfer turned out to be wrong, and a metal fan ended up
working acceptably well. But the fact that they thought it necessary
demonstrates that cyanide was to be routinely used in the rooms which
deniers call morgues. (Cyanide is useless for disinfecting morgues, as it
does not kill bacteria.)

Other captured documents, even if they don't refer directly to some part
of the extermination process, refer to it by implication. A captured memo to
SS-Brigadeführer Kammler reveals that the expected incineration capacity of
the Auschwitz ovens was a combined total of 4,756 corpses per day (see a
photograph of the document or Kogon, op. cit., p. 157).

Deniers often claim that this total could not be achieved in practice (see
question 45). That's not the point. These crematoria were carefully
designed, in 1942, to have sufficient capacity to dispose of 140,000 corpses
per month -- in a camp that housed only 125,000. We can conclude that
massive deaths were predicted, indeed planned-for, as early as mid-1942. A
camp designed to incinerate its full capacity of inmates every four weeks is
not merely a detention center.

Finally, apart from the abundant testimonies, confessions, and physical
evidence of the extermination process, there is certainly no want of
evidence of the Nazis' intentions and plans.

Here are just a few examples. Hans Frank's diary (from Nazi Conspiracy and
Aggression, 1946, Vol. I, pp. 992, 994):

But what should be done with the Jews? Do you think they will be settled
down in the 'Ostland' [eastern territories], in [resettlement] villages?
This is what we were told in Berlin: Why all this bother? We can do nothing
with them either in the 'Ostland' nor in the 'Reichkommissariat.' So
liquidate them yourself.

Gentlemen, I must ask you to rid yourself of all feeling of pity. We
must annihilate the Jews, wherever we find them and wherever it is possible,
in order to maintain the structure of the Reich as a whole. ...

We cannot shoot or poison these 3,500,000 Jews, but we shall
nevertheless be able to take measures, which will lead, somehow, to their
annihilation....

That we sentence 1,200,000 Jews to die of hunger should be noted only
marginally.

Himmler's speech at Posen on October 4, 1943 was captured on audiotape
(Trial of the Major War Criminals, 1948, Vol. XXIX, p. 145, trans. by
current author):

I refer now to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the
Jewish people. This is one of those things that is easily said: "the Jewish
people are being exterminated," says every Party member, "quite true, it's
part of our plans, the elimination of the Jews, extermination, we're doing
it."

The extermination effort was even mentioned in at least one official Nazi
court verdict. In May 1943, a Munich court wrote in its decision against
SS-Untersturmführer Max Taubner that:

The accused shall not be punished because of the actions against the
Jews as such. The Jews have to be exterminated and none of the Jews that
were killed is any great loss. Although the accused should have recognized
that the extermination of the Jews was the duty of Kommandos which were set
up especially for this purpose, he should be excused for considering himself
to have the authority to take part in the extermination of Jewry himself.

And Hitler spoke quite clearly in public on no fewer than three occasions.
On January 30, 1939, seven months before Germany invaded Poland, he spoke
publicly to the Reichstag (transcribed from Skeptic magazine, Vol. 2, No. 4,
p. 50):

Today I want to be a prophet once more: if international finance Jewry
inside and outside of Europe should succeed once more in plunging nations
into another world war, the consequence will not be the Bolshevation of the
earth and thereby the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish
race in Europe.

By the way, this last phrase is, in German, "die Vernichtung der jüdischen
Rasse in Europa," which German-speakers will realize is quite unambiguous.

In September, 1942:

...if Jewry should plot another world war in order to exterminate the
Aryan peoples in Europe, it would not be the Aryan people which would be
exterminated but Jewry...

On November 8, 1942:

You will recall the session of the Reichstag during which I declared: if
Jewry should imagine that it could bring about an international world war to
exterminate the European races, the result will not be the extermination of
the European races, but the extermination of Jewry in Europe. People always
laughed about me as a prophet. Of those who laughed then, countless numbers
no longer laugh today, and those who still laugh now will perhaps no longer
laugh a short time from now.

There are many other examples of documents and testimonies that could be
presented.

Keep in mind that the IHR's answer to "what proof exists?" is "none." It
has certainly been demonstrated already that this pat answer is totally
dishonest. And this is the main point we wish to communicate: that
Holocaust-denial is dishonest.

We continue by analyzing the remaining, more-specific, claims about what
evidence supposedly does not exist.


a.. "No mounds of ashes" is an internal contradiction. In an article in
the journal published by the same IHR that publishes these Q&A, the
Journal's editor reported that a Polish commission in 1946 found human ash
at the Treblinka death camp to a depth of over twenty feet. This article is
available on The IHR's web site.
(Apparently some survivors claimed that the corpses were always thoroughly
cremated. Because uncremated human remains were mixed with the ash, the
editor suggested that the testimonies were false. Amazingly, he had no
comment on how a twenty-foot layer of human ashes came to be there in the
first place. Perhaps he felt that to be unworthy of mention.)

There are also piles of ashes at Maidanek. At Auschwitz-Birkenau, ashes
from cremated corpses were dumped into the rivers and swamps surrounding the
camp, and used as fertilizer for nearby farmers' fields.


a.. "No crematoria" capable of disposing of millions of corpses?
Absolutely false, the crematoria were more than capable of the job,
according to both the Nazis' own internal memos and the testimony of
survivors. Holocaust-deniers deliberately confuse civilian, funeral-home
crematoria with the huge industrial ovens of the death camps. This is
discussed in much detail in the replies to questions 42 and 45.

a.. "No piles of clothes"? Apparently, the IHR considers piles of clothes
to be "hard evidence"! This is strange, because they do not deny the other
sorts of piles found at Nazi camps: piles of eyeglasses, piles of shoes (at
Auschwitz, Belzec, and Maidanek), piles of gold teeth, piles of burned
corpses, piles of unburned corpses, piles of artificial limbs (see
Swiebocka, Auschwitz: A History in Photographs, 1993, p. 210), piles of
human hair (ibid, p. 211), piles of ransacked luggage (ibid, p. 213), piles
of shaving-brushes (ibid, p. 215), piles of combs (ibid), piles of pots and
pans (ibid), and yes, even the piles of clothes (ibid, p. 214) that the IHR
claims do not exist.
Perhaps the authors of the 66 Q&A realized that it was dangerous for them
to admit that these piles were hard evidence, because then they would also
be forced to admit a number of other things as "hard evidence." Perhaps this
is why they removed this phrase from the revised 66 Q&A.

If items were not generally found in mass quantities, it is only because
the Nazis distributed them to the German population. A memo on this was
captured, revealing that they even redistributed women's underwear.


a.. "No human soap"? This is true, but misleading. Though there is some
evidence that soap was made from corpses on a very limited experimental
scale, the rumored "mass production" was never done, and no soap made from
human corpses is known to exist. However, there is sworn testimony, never
refuted, from British POWs and a German army official, stating that soap
experiments were performed, and the recipe for the soap was captured by the
Allies. To state flatly that the Nazis did not make soap from human beings
is incorrect.

a.. "No lamp shades made of human skin?" False -- lampshades and other
human-skin "ornaments" were introduced as evidence in both trials of Ilse
Koch, and were shown to a U.S. Senate investigation committee in the late
40s. We know they were made of human skin because they bore tattoos, and
because a microscopic forensic analysis of the items was performed. (A
detailed page on this is being prepared.)

a.. "No records"? This is nonsense (which may explain why this claim was
removed from the "revised" versions of the 66 Q&A). True, extermination by
gassing was always referred to with code-words, and those victims who
arrived at death camps only to be immediately gassed were not recorded in
any books. But there are slip-ups in the code-word usage that reveal the
true meanings, as already described. There are inventories and requisitions
for the Krema which reveal items anomalous with ordinary use but perfect for
mass homicidal gassing. There are deportation train records which, pieced
together, speak clearly. And so on. Several examples have been given above.

a.. "No credible demographic statistics"? This is the second internal
contradiction -- see question 2 and question 15. The Anglo-American
committee who studied the issue estimated the number of Jewish victims at
5.7 million. This was based on population statistics. Here is the exact
breakdown, country by country:
Germany 195,000
Austria 53,000
Czechoslovakia 255,000
Denmark 1,500
France 140,000
Belgium 57,000
Luxemburg 3,000
Norway 1,000
Holland 120,000
Italy 20,000
Yugoslavia 64,000
Greece 64,000
Bulgaria 5,000
Rumania 530,000
Hungary 200,000
Poland 3,271,000
USSR 1,050,000
Less dispersed refugees (308,000)
Total number of Jews killed 5,721,500


(This estimate was arrived at using population statistics, and not by adding
the number of casualties at each camp. These are also available -- for
instance, a separate file with the ruling of a German court regarding the
number of victims in Treblinka is available. The SS kept rather accurate
records, and many of the documents survived, reinforced by eyewitness
accounts).

Some estimates are lower, some are higher, but this is the magnitude in
question. In an article in CMU's student newspaper, the head of CMU's
History Department, Peter Stearns, is quoted as saying that newly discovered
documents -- especially in the former USSR -- indicate that the number of
victims is higher than six million. Other historians claim not much over
five million. The Encyclopedia of the Holocaust uses 5,596,000 as a minimum
and 5,860,000 as a maximum (Gutman, 1990, p. 1799).


a.. In summary:
"Revisionists" often claim, correctly, that the burden of proof is on
historians. The proof, of course, has been a matter of public record since
late 1945, and is available in libraries around the world. The burden has
been met, many, many times over. You've just seen a brief presentation of
some of the highlights of that immense body of proof; much more is readily
available.

To even argue that the Holocaust never happened is ludicrous. To claim
straight-faced that none of this proof even exists is beyond ludicrous, and
it is a clear example of "revisionist" dishonesty.
tankfixer
2008-02-15 05:18:12 UTC
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Snip the sick platitudes.
Post by Topaz
Adolf Hitler
Psychopath..
Gandalf Grey
2008-02-15 05:57:49 UTC
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Snip the sick platitudes.
Post by Topaz
Adolf Hitler
Psychopath..
And then some.
Hatto von Aquitanien
2008-02-15 06:00:20 UTC
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Post by tankfixer
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Snip the sick platitudes.
Post by Topaz
Adolf Hitler
Psychopath..
And then some.
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tankfixer
2008-02-15 23:58:44 UTC
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Snip the sick platitudes.
Post by Topaz
Adolf Hitler
Psychopath..
And then some.
http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/history/assets/hitlers_volkswagen_sketch.jpg
Trying to claim he was an auto designer AND Psychopath ?
Gandalf Grey
2008-02-16 00:02:42 UTC
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Snip the sick platitudes.
Post by Topaz
Adolf Hitler
Psychopath..
And then some.
http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/history/assets/hitlers_volkswagen_sketch.jpg
Trying to claim he was an auto designer AND Psychopath ?
Hard to say what his point was there. Was he saying how could Hitler be a
psychopath and still design the Volkswagon? Or was it how could Hitler
design the Volkswagon and not be a psychopath.
Topaz
2008-02-16 00:34:28 UTC
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Here is a quote from The Nameless War, by Captain A. H. M. Ramsay:

"The urgent alarm sounded in 1918 by Mr. Oudendyke in his letter
to Mr. Balfour (see page 25), denouncing bolshevism as a Jewish plan,
which if not checked by the combined action of the European powers,
would engulf Europe and the world, was no exaggeration. By the end of
that year the red flag was being hoisted in most of the great cities
of Europe. In Hungary the Jew Bela Kuhn organized and maintained for
some time a merciless and bloody tyranny similar to the one in Russia.
In Germany the Jews, Liebknecht, Barth, Scheidemann, Rosa Luxemburg,
etc., made a desperate bid for power. These and other similar
convulsions shook Europe; but each country in its own way just
frustated the onslaughts.

In most countries concerned a few voices were raised in the
endeavour to expose the true nature of these evils. Only in one,
however, did a political leader and group arise, who grasped to the
full the significance of these happenings, and perceived behind the
mobs of native hooligans the organisation and driving power of world
Jewry. This leader was Adolf Hitler, and his group the National
Socialist Party of Germany.

Never before in history had any country not only repulsed organized
revolution, but discerned Jewry behind it, and faced up to that fact.
We need not wonder that the sewers of Jewish vituperation were flooded
over these men and their leader; nor should we make the mistake of
supposing that Jewry would stick at any lie to deter honest men
everywhere from making a thorough investigation of the facts for
themselves. Nevertheless, if any value liberty, and set out to seek
truth and defend it, this duty of personal investigation is one which
they cannot shirk.

To accept unquestioningly the lies and misrepresentaions of a
Jew-controlled or influenced press, is to spurn truth by sheer
idleness, if for no worse reason."


http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/

http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
Gandalf Grey
2008-02-16 01:13:24 UTC
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What proof exists that the Nazis practiced genocide or deliberately killed
six million Jews?



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1. What proof exists that the Nazis practiced genocide or deliberately
killed six million Jews?

The IHR says (original, Samisdat, and revised versions combined):

None. The only evidence is the postwar testimony of individual
"survivors." This testimony is contradictory, and no "survivor" claims to
have actually witnessed any gassing. There are no contemporaneous documents
and no hard evidence whatsoever: no mounds of ashes, no crematoria capable
of disposing of millions of corpses, no piles of clothes, no human soap, no
lamp shades made of human skin, no records, no credible demographic
statistics.

Nizkor replies:

Lie piled upon lie, with not a shred of proof.

This is as good a place as any to present some detailed evidence which is
consistently ignored, as a sort of primer on Holocaust denial. It will make
this reply much longer than the other sixty-five, but perhaps the reader
will understand the necessity for this.

Let's look at their claims one at a time:


a.. Supposedly the only evidence, "the postwar testimony of individual
survivors."
First of all, consider the implicit conspiracy theory. Notice how the
testimony of every single inmate of every Nazi camp is automatically
dismissed as unconvincing. This total dismissal of inmates' testimony, along
with the equally-total dismissal of the Nazis' own testimony (!), is the
largest unspoken assumption of Holocaust-denial.

This assumption, which is not often spelled out, is that the attempted
Jewish genocide never took place, but rather that a secret conspiracy of
Jews, starting around 1941, planted and forged myriad documents to prove
that it did; then, after the war, they rounded up all the camp survivors and
told them what to say.

The conspirators also supposedly managed to torture hundreds of key Nazis
into confessing to crimes which they never committed, or into framing their
fellow Nazis for those crimes, and to plant hundreds of documents in Nazi
files which were never discovered until after the war, and only then, in
many cases, by sheer luck. Goebbels' diary, for example, was barely rescued
from being sold as 7,000 pages of scrap paper, but buried in the scattered
manuscript were several telling entries (as translated in Lochner, The
Goebbels Diaries, 1948, pp. 86, 147-148):

February 14, 1942: The Führer once again expressed his determination to
clean up the Jews in Europe pitilessly. There must be no squeamish
sentimentalism about it. The Jews have deserved the catastrophe that has now
overtaken them. Their destruction will go hand in hand with the destruction
of our enemies. We must hasten this process with cold ruthlessness.

March 27, 1942: The procedure is a pretty barbaric one and not to be
described here more definitely. Not much will remain of the Jews. On the
whole it can be said that about 60 per cent of them will have to be
liquidated whereas only 40 per cent can be used for forced labor.

Michael Shermer has pointed out that the Nazis' own estimate of the number
of European Jews was eleven million, and sixty percent of eleven million is
6.6 million. This is fairly close to the actual figure. (Actually, forty
percent was a serious overestimate of the survival rate of Jews who were
captured, but there were many Jews who escaped.)

In any case, most of the diary is quite mundane, and interesting only to
historians. Did the supposed Jewish conspiracy forge seven thousand pages to
insert just a few lines? How did they manage to know Goebbels' affairs
intimately enough to avoid contradictions, e.g. putting him or his
associates in the wrong city at the wrong date?

As even the revisionist David Cole has admitted, revisionists have yet to
provide a satisfactory explanation of this document.

Regarding postwar testimony from Nazis, were they all tortured into
confessing to heinous crimes which they supposedly did not commit? This
might be believable if only a few Nazis were captured after the war, or
maybe if some had courageously stood up in court and shouted to the world
about the supposed attempt to silence them. But hundreds testified regarding
the Holocaust, in trials dating from late 1945 until the 1960s. (For
example, see Böck, Hofmann, Hössler, Klein, Münch, and Stark.)

Many of these Nazis testified as witnesses and were not accused of crimes.
What was the basis for their supposed coercion?

Many of these trials were in German courts. Did the Germans torture their
own countrymen? Well, Holocaust-deniers sometimes claim that the Jews have
secretly infiltrated the German government and control everything about it.
They prefer not to talk too much about this theory, however, because it is
clearly on the lunatic fringe.

The main point is that not one of these supposed torture victims -- in
fifty years, not one -- has come forth to support the claim that testimony
was coerced.

On the contrary, confirmation and reconfirmation of their testimony has
continued across the years. What coercion could have convinced Judge Konrad
Morgen to testify to the crimes he witnessed at the International Nuremberg
Trial in 1946, where he was not accused of any crime? And to later testify
at the Auschwitz trial at Frankfurt, Germany, in 1963-65? What coercion was
applied to SS Doctor Johann Kremer to make him testify in his own defense in
1947, and then, after having been convicted in both Poland and Germany,
emerge after his release to testify again as a witness at the Frankfurt
trial? What coercion was applied to Böck, Gerhard Hess, Hölblinger, Storch,
and Wiebeck, all former SS men, all witnesses at Frankfurt, none accused of
any crime there?

Holocaust-deniers point to small discrepancies in testimonies to try to
discredit them. The assumption, unstated, is that the reader will accept
minor discrepancies as evidence of a vast, over-reaching Jewish conspiracy.
This is clearly ludicrous.

In fact, the discrepancies and minor errors in detail argue against, not
for, the conspiracy theory. Why would the conspirators have given different
information to different Nazis? In fact, if all the testimonies, from the
Nazis' to the inmates', sounded too similar, it is certain that the
Holocaust-deniers would cite that as evidence of a conspiracy.

What supposed coercion could reach across four decades, to force former
SS-Untersturmführer Dr. Hans Münch to give an interview, against the will of
his family, on Swedish television? In the 1981 interview, he talked about
Auschwitz:

Interviewer: Isn't the ideology of extermination contrary to a doctor's
ethical values?

Münch: Yes, absolutely. There is no discussion. But I lived in that
environment, and I tried in every possible way to avoid accepting it, but I
had to live with it. What else could I have done? And I wasn't confronted
with it directly until the order came that I and my superior and another one
had to take part in the exterminations since the camp's doctors were
overloaded and couldn't cope with it.

Interviewer: I must ask something. Doubters claim that "special
treatment" could mean anything. It didn't have to be extermination.

Münch: "Special treatment" in the terminology of the concentration camp
means physical extermination. If it was a question of more than a few
people, where nothing else than gassing them was worthwhile, they were
gassed.

Interviewer: "Special treatment" was gassing?

Münch: Yes, absolutely.

And what supposed coercion could reach across four decades, to force
former SS-Unterscharführer Franz Suchomel into giving an interview for the
film Shoah? Speaking under (false) promises of anonymity, he told of the
crimes committed at the Treblinka death camp (from the book Shoah, Claude
Lanzmann, 1985, p. 54):

Interviewer: You are a very important eyewitness, and you can explain
what Treblinka was.

Suchomel: But don't use my name.

Interviewer: No, I promised. All right, you've arrived at Treblinka.

Suchomel: So Stadie, the sarge, showed us the camps from end to end.
Just as we went by, they were opening the gas-chamber doors, and people fell
out like potatoes. Naturally, that horrified and appalled us. We went back
and sat down on our suitcases and cried like old women.

Each day one hundred Jews were chosen to drag the corpses to the mass
graves. In the evening the Ukrainians drove those Jews into the gas chambers
or shot them. Every day!

Ask the deniers why they shrug off the testimony of Franz Suchomel. Greg
Raven will tell you that "it is not evidence...bring me some evidence,
please." Others will tell you that Suchomel and Münch were crazy, or
hallucinating, or fantasizing.

But the fantasy is obviously in the minds of those who choose to ignore
the mass of evidence and believe instead in a hypothetical conspiracy,
supported by nothing but their imaginations.

That total lack of evidence is why the "conspiracy assumption" almost
always remains an unspoken assumption. To our knowledge, there has not been
one single solitary "revisionist" paper, article, speech, pamphlet, book,
audiotape, videotape, or newsletter which provides any details about this
supposed Jewish/Zionist conspiracy which did all the dirty work. Not one.

At best, the denial literature makes veiled references to the World Jewish
Congress perpetuating a "hoax" (in Butz, 1976) -- no details are provided.
Yet the entire case of Holocaust-denial rests on this supposed conspiracy.

As for the testimony of the survivors, which the "revisionists" claim is
the only evidence, there are indeed numerous testimonies to gassings and
other forms of atrocities, from Jewish inmates who survived the camps, and
also from other inmates like POWs. Many of the prisoners that testified
about the gassing are not Jewish, of course. Look for instance at the
testimony of Polish officer Zenon Rozansky about the first homicidal gassing
in Auschwitz, in which 850 Russian POWs were gassed to death, in Reitlinger,
The Final Solution, p. 154:

Those who were propped against the door leant with a curious stiffness
and then fell right at our feet, striking their faces hard against the
concrete floor. Corpses! Corpses standing bolt upright and filling the
entire corridor of the bunker, till they were packed so tight that it was
impossible for more to fall.

Which of the "revisionists" will deny this? Which of them was there? Which
of them has the authority to tell Rozansky what he did or did not see?

The statement that "no 'survivor' claims to have actually witnessed any
gassing" is clearly false; this was changed to "few survivors" in later
versions, which is close to the truth.

But we do not need to rely solely on testimony, from the survivors, Nazis,
or otherwise. Many wartime documents, not postwar descriptions, specifically
regarding gassings and other atrocities, were seized by the U.S. armed
forces. Most are in the National Archives in Washington, D.C.; some are in
Germany.

Regarding the gassing vans, precursors to the gas chambers, we find, for
example, a top secret document from SS Untersturmführer Becker to SS
Obersturmbannführer Rauff (from Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression, 1946, Vol.
I, pp. 999-1001):

If it has rained for instance for only one half hour, the van cannot be
used because it simply skids away. It can only be used in absolutely dry
weather. It is only a question now whether the van can only be used standing
at the place of execution. First the van has to be brought to that place,
which is possible only in good weather. ...

The application of gas usually is not undertaken correctly. In order to
come to an end as fast as possible, the driver presses the accelerator to
the fullest extent. By doing that the persons to be executed suffer death
from suffocation and not death by dozing off as was planned. My directions
now have proved that by correct adjustment of the levers death comes faster
and the prisoners fall asleep peacefully.

And Just wrote of the gas vans to Rauff, on June 5, 1942, in a letter
marked both "top secret" and "only copy". This is a horrific masterpiece of
Nazi double-talk, referring to killing as "processing" and the victims as
"subjects" and "the load." (See Kogon, Nazi Mass Murder, 1993, pp. 228-235.)

Since December 1941, for example, 97,000 were processed using three
vans, without any faults occurring in the vehicles. ...

The normal capacity of the vans is nine to ten per square meter. The
capacity of the larger special Saurer vans is not so great. The problem is
not one of overloading but of off-road maneuverability on all terrains,
which is severely diminished in this van. It would appear that a reduction
in the cargo area is necessary. This can be achieved by shortening the
compartment by about one meter. The problem cannot be solved by merely
reducing the number of subject treated, as has been done so far. For in this
case a longer running time is required, as the empty space also needs to be
filled with CO [the poison exhaust gas]. ...

Greater protection is needed for the lighting system. The grille should
cover the lamps high enough up to make it impossible to break the bulbs. It
seems that these lamps are hardly ever turned on, so the users have
suggested that they could be done away with. Experience shows, however, that
when the back door is closed and it gets dark inside, the load pushes hard
against the door. The reason for this is that when it becomes dark inside,
the load rushes toward what little light remains. This hampers the locking
of the door. It has also been noticed that the noise provoked by the locking
of the door is linked to the fear aroused by the darkness.

Slip-ups occurred in written correspondence regarding the gas chambers
themselves, some of which, fortunately, escaped destruction and were found
after the war. A memo written to SS man Karl Bischoff on November 27, 1942
describes the gas chamber in Krema II not with the usual mundane name of
"Leichenkeller," but rather as the "Sonderkeller" "special cellar."

And two months later, on January 29, 1943, Bischoff wrote a memo to
Kammler, referring to that same chamber as the "Vergasungskeller." (See
Gutman, Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp, 1994, pp. 223, 227.)
"Vergasungskeller" means exactly what it sounds like: "gassing cellar," an
underground gas chamber.

Holocaust-deniers turn to Arthur Butz, who provides a specious explanation
for the Vergasungskeller: "Vergasung," he says, cannot refer to killing
people with gas, but only to the process of converting a solid or liquid
into gas. Therefore, he says the "Vergasungskeller," must have been a
special room where the fuel for the Auschwitz ovens was converted into
gas -- a "gasification cellar."

There are three problems with this explanation. First, "Vergasung"
certainly can refer to killing people with gas; Butz does not speak German
and he should not try to lecture about the language. Second, there is no
room that could possibly serve this function which Butz describes -- years
after writing his book, he admitted this, and helplessly suggested that
there might be another building somewhere in the camp that might house a
gasification cellar. Third, the type of oven used at Auschwitz did not
require any gasification process! The ovens burned solid fuel. (See Gutman,
op. cit., pp. 184-193.)

So what does the term "gassing cellar" refer to? Holocaust-deniers have
yet to offer any believable explanation.

An inventory, again captured after the war, revealed fourteen showerheads
and one gas-tight door listed for the gas chamber in Krema III.
Holocaust-deniers claim that room was a morgue; they do not offer to explain
what use a morgue has for showerheads and a gas-tight door. (See a
photograph of the document, or Pressac, Auschwitz: Technique and Operation,
1989, pp. 231, 438.)

A memo from the Auschwitz construction office, dated March 31, 1943, says
(Hilberg, Documents of Destruction, 1971, pp. 207-208):

We take this occasion to refer to another order of March 6, 1943, for
the delivery of a gas door 100/192 for Leichenkeller 1 of Krema III, Bw 30a,
which is to be built in the manner and according to the same measure as the
cellar door of the opposite Krema II, with peep hole of double 8 millimeter
glass encased in rubber. This order is to be viewed as especially urgent....

Why would morgues have urgently needed peepholes made out of a double
layer of third-of-an-inch-thick glass?

The question of whether it can be proved that the cyanide gas was used in
the Auschwitz gas chambers has intruiged the deniers. Their much-heralded
Leuchter Report, for example, expends a great deal of effort on the question
of whether traces of cyanide residue remain there today. But we do not need
to look for chemical traces to confirm cyanide use (Gutman, op. cit., p.
229):

Letters and telegrams exchanged on February 11 and 12 [1943] between the
Zentralbauleitung and Topf mention a wooden blower for Leichenkeller 1. This
reference confirms the use of the morgue as a gas chamber: Bischoff and
Prüfer thought that the extraction of air mixed with concentrated prussic
acid [cyanide] (20 g per cu m) required a noncorroding ventilator.

Bischoff and Prüfer turned out to be wrong, and a metal fan ended up
working acceptably well. But the fact that they thought it necessary
demonstrates that cyanide was to be routinely used in the rooms which
deniers call morgues. (Cyanide is useless for disinfecting morgues, as it
does not kill bacteria.)

Other captured documents, even if they don't refer directly to some part
of the extermination process, refer to it by implication. A captured memo to
SS-Brigadeführer Kammler reveals that the expected incineration capacity of
the Auschwitz ovens was a combined total of 4,756 corpses per day (see a
photograph of the document or Kogon, op. cit., p. 157).

Deniers often claim that this total could not be achieved in practice (see
question 45). That's not the point. These crematoria were carefully
designed, in 1942, to have sufficient capacity to dispose of 140,000 corpses
per month -- in a camp that housed only 125,000. We can conclude that
massive deaths were predicted, indeed planned-for, as early as mid-1942. A
camp designed to incinerate its full capacity of inmates every four weeks is
not merely a detention center.

Finally, apart from the abundant testimonies, confessions, and physical
evidence of the extermination process, there is certainly no want of
evidence of the Nazis' intentions and plans.

Here are just a few examples. Hans Frank's diary (from Nazi Conspiracy and
Aggression, 1946, Vol. I, pp. 992, 994):

But what should be done with the Jews? Do you think they will be settled
down in the 'Ostland' [eastern territories], in [resettlement] villages?
This is what we were told in Berlin: Why all this bother? We can do nothing
with them either in the 'Ostland' nor in the 'Reichkommissariat.' So
liquidate them yourself.

Gentlemen, I must ask you to rid yourself of all feeling of pity. We
must annihilate the Jews, wherever we find them and wherever it is possible,
in order to maintain the structure of the Reich as a whole. ...

We cannot shoot or poison these 3,500,000 Jews, but we shall
nevertheless be able to take measures, which will lead, somehow, to their
annihilation....

That we sentence 1,200,000 Jews to die of hunger should be noted only
marginally.

Himmler's speech at Posen on October 4, 1943 was captured on audiotape
(Trial of the Major War Criminals, 1948, Vol. XXIX, p. 145, trans. by
current author):

I refer now to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the
Jewish people. This is one of those things that is easily said: "the Jewish
people are being exterminated," says every Party member, "quite true, it's
part of our plans, the elimination of the Jews, extermination, we're doing
it."

The extermination effort was even mentioned in at least one official Nazi
court verdict. In May 1943, a Munich court wrote in its decision against
SS-Untersturmführer Max Taubner that:

The accused shall not be punished because of the actions against the
Jews as such. The Jews have to be exterminated and none of the Jews that
were killed is any great loss. Although the accused should have recognized
that the extermination of the Jews was the duty of Kommandos which were set
up especially for this purpose, he should be excused for considering himself
to have the authority to take part in the extermination of Jewry himself.

And Hitler spoke quite clearly in public on no fewer than three occasions.
On January 30, 1939, seven months before Germany invaded Poland, he spoke
publicly to the Reichstag (transcribed from Skeptic magazine, Vol. 2, No. 4,
p. 50):

Today I want to be a prophet once more: if international finance Jewry
inside and outside of Europe should succeed once more in plunging nations
into another world war, the consequence will not be the Bolshevation of the
earth and thereby the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish
race in Europe.

By the way, this last phrase is, in German, "die Vernichtung der jüdischen
Rasse in Europa," which German-speakers will realize is quite unambiguous.

In September, 1942:

...if Jewry should plot another world war in order to exterminate the
Aryan peoples in Europe, it would not be the Aryan people which would be
exterminated but Jewry...

On November 8, 1942:

You will recall the session of the Reichstag during which I declared: if
Jewry should imagine that it could bring about an international world war to
exterminate the European races, the result will not be the extermination of
the European races, but the extermination of Jewry in Europe. People always
laughed about me as a prophet. Of those who laughed then, countless numbers
no longer laugh today, and those who still laugh now will perhaps no longer
laugh a short time from now.

There are many other examples of documents and testimonies that could be
presented.

Keep in mind that the IHR's answer to "what proof exists?" is "none." It
has certainly been demonstrated already that this pat answer is totally
dishonest. And this is the main point we wish to communicate: that
Holocaust-denial is dishonest.

We continue by analyzing the remaining, more-specific, claims about what
evidence supposedly does not exist.


a.. "No mounds of ashes" is an internal contradiction. In an article in
the journal published by the same IHR that publishes these Q&A, the
Journal's editor reported that a Polish commission in 1946 found human ash
at the Treblinka death camp to a depth of over twenty feet. This article is
available on The IHR's web site.
(Apparently some survivors claimed that the corpses were always thoroughly
cremated. Because uncremated human remains were mixed with the ash, the
editor suggested that the testimonies were false. Amazingly, he had no
comment on how a twenty-foot layer of human ashes came to be there in the
first place. Perhaps he felt that to be unworthy of mention.)

There are also piles of ashes at Maidanek. At Auschwitz-Birkenau, ashes
from cremated corpses were dumped into the rivers and swamps surrounding the
camp, and used as fertilizer for nearby farmers' fields.


a.. "No crematoria" capable of disposing of millions of corpses?
Absolutely false, the crematoria were more than capable of the job,
according to both the Nazis' own internal memos and the testimony of
survivors. Holocaust-deniers deliberately confuse civilian, funeral-home
crematoria with the huge industrial ovens of the death camps. This is
discussed in much detail in the replies to questions 42 and 45.

a.. "No piles of clothes"? Apparently, the IHR considers piles of clothes
to be "hard evidence"! This is strange, because they do not deny the other
sorts of piles found at Nazi camps: piles of eyeglasses, piles of shoes (at
Auschwitz, Belzec, and Maidanek), piles of gold teeth, piles of burned
corpses, piles of unburned corpses, piles of artificial limbs (see
Swiebocka, Auschwitz: A History in Photographs, 1993, p. 210), piles of
human hair (ibid, p. 211), piles of ransacked luggage (ibid, p. 213), piles
of shaving-brushes (ibid, p. 215), piles of combs (ibid), piles of pots and
pans (ibid), and yes, even the piles of clothes (ibid, p. 214) that the IHR
claims do not exist.
Perhaps the authors of the 66 Q&A realized that it was dangerous for them
to admit that these piles were hard evidence, because then they would also
be forced to admit a number of other things as "hard evidence." Perhaps this
is why they removed this phrase from the revised 66 Q&A.

If items were not generally found in mass quantities, it is only because
the Nazis distributed them to the German population. A memo on this was
captured, revealing that they even redistributed women's underwear.


a.. "No human soap"? This is true, but misleading. Though there is some
evidence that soap was made from corpses on a very limited experimental
scale, the rumored "mass production" was never done, and no soap made from
human corpses is known to exist. However, there is sworn testimony, never
refuted, from British POWs and a German army official, stating that soap
experiments were performed, and the recipe for the soap was captured by the
Allies. To state flatly that the Nazis did not make soap from human beings
is incorrect.

a.. "No lamp shades made of human skin?" False -- lampshades and other
human-skin "ornaments" were introduced as evidence in both trials of Ilse
Koch, and were shown to a U.S. Senate investigation committee in the late
40s. We know they were made of human skin because they bore tattoos, and
because a microscopic forensic analysis of the items was performed. (A
detailed page on this is being prepared.)

a.. "No records"? This is nonsense (which may explain why this claim was
removed from the "revised" versions of the 66 Q&A). True, extermination by
gassing was always referred to with code-words, and those victims who
arrived at death camps only to be immediately gassed were not recorded in
any books. But there are slip-ups in the code-word usage that reveal the
true meanings, as already described. There are inventories and requisitions
for the Krema which reveal items anomalous with ordinary use but perfect for
mass homicidal gassing. There are deportation train records which, pieced
together, speak clearly. And so on. Several examples have been given above.

a.. "No credible demographic statistics"? This is the second internal
contradiction -- see question 2 and question 15. The Anglo-American
committee who studied the issue estimated the number of Jewish victims at
5.7 million. This was based on population statistics. Here is the exact
breakdown, country by country:
Germany 195,000
Austria 53,000
Czechoslovakia 255,000
Denmark 1,500
France 140,000
Belgium 57,000
Luxemburg 3,000
Norway 1,000
Holland 120,000
Italy 20,000
Yugoslavia 64,000
Greece 64,000
Bulgaria 5,000
Rumania 530,000
Hungary 200,000
Poland 3,271,000
USSR 1,050,000
Less dispersed refugees (308,000)
Total number of Jews killed 5,721,500


(This estimate was arrived at using population statistics, and not by adding
the number of casualties at each camp. These are also available -- for
instance, a separate file with the ruling of a German court regarding the
number of victims in Treblinka is available. The SS kept rather accurate
records, and many of the documents survived, reinforced by eyewitness
accounts).

Some estimates are lower, some are higher, but this is the magnitude in
question. In an article in CMU's student newspaper, the head of CMU's
History Department, Peter Stearns, is quoted as saying that newly discovered
documents -- especially in the former USSR -- indicate that the number of
victims is higher than six million. Other historians claim not much over
five million. The Encyclopedia of the Holocaust uses 5,596,000 as a minimum
and 5,860,000 as a maximum (Gutman, 1990, p. 1799).


a.. In summary:
"Revisionists" often claim, correctly, that the burden of proof is on
historians. The proof, of course, has been a matter of public record since
late 1945, and is available in libraries around the world. The burden has
been met, many, many times over. You've just seen a brief presentation of
some of the highlights of that immense body of proof; much more is readily
available.

To even argue that the Holocaust never happened is ludicrous. To claim
straight-faced that none of this proof even exists is beyond ludicrous, and
it is a clear example of "revisionist" dishonesty.
Topaz
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There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
Hollywood.

Here are some quotes from a magazine for Jews called "Moment".
It is subtitled "The Jewish magazine for the 90's" These quotes are
from the Aug 1996 edition after the Headline "Jews Run Hollywood - So
What?":

"It makes no sense at all to try to deny the reality of Jewish
power and prominence in popular culture. Any list of the most
influential production executives at each of the major movie studios
will produce a heavy majority of recognizably Jewish names."

"the famous Disney organization, which was founded by Walt
Disney, a gentile Midwesterner who allegedly harbored anti-Semetic
attitudes, now features Jewish personnel in nearly all its most
powerful positions."

The head of Walt Disney studios is now the Jew Michael Eisner.
On studios that were bought out by the Japanese the magazine says:

"When Mitsushita took over MCA-Universal, they did nothing to
undermine the unquestioned authority of Universal's legendary - and
all Jewish - management triad of Lew Wasserman, Sid Scheinberg, and
Tom Pollack."

Here are some quotes from the paper "Jews Control the Media
and Rule America"
It may be rather out of date but it still explains why things are the
way they are.

"American Broadcasting Companies (ABC), Columbia Broadcasting
System (CBS), and National Broadcasting Company (NBC). Each of these
three has been under the absolute control of a single man over a long
enough period of time--ranging from 32 to 55 years--for him to staff
the corporation at every level with officers of his choosing and then
to place his imprint indelibly upon it. In each case that man has been
a Jew.
"Until 1985, when ABC merged with Capital Cities
Communications, Inc...the chairman of the board of directors and chief
executive officer (CEO) of the network was Leonard Harry Goldenson, a
Jew...In an interview in the April 1, 1985 issue of Newsweek,
Goldenson boasted 'I built this company (ABC) from scratch.'"

"CBS was under the domination of William S. Paley for more than
half a century. The son of immigrant Jews from Russia..."

"There has been no move by top G-E management to change the
Jewish "profile" of NBC or to replace key Jewish personnel. To the
contrary, new Jewish executives have been added: an example is Steve
Friedman..."

"The man in charge of the television entertainment division at
CBS is Jeff Sagansky. At ABC the entertainment division is run by two
men....nearly all of the men who shape young Amercians' concept of
reality, of good and evil, of permissible and impermissible behavior
are Jews. In particular, Sagansky and Bloomberg are Jews. So is
Tartikoff. Littlefield is the only Gentile who has had a significant
role in TV entertainment programming in recent years."

"American Film magazine listed the top 10...entertainment
companies and their CEOs...Time Warner Communications (Steven J Ross,
Jew) Walt Disney Co. (Michael D. Eisner, Jew)...Of the 10 top
entertainment CEOs listed above, eight are Jews."

"The Newhouse media empire provides an example of more than a
lack of real competition among America's daily newspapers; it also
illustrates the insatiable appetite Jews have shown for all organs of
opinion... The Newhouse's own 31 daily newspapers, including several
large and important ones, such as the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the
Newark Star-Ledger, and the New Orleans Times-Picayune; the nation's
largest trade book publishing conglomerate, Random House, with all
its subsidiaries; Newhouse Broadcasting, consisting of 12 television
broadcasting stations and 87 cable-TV systems, including some of the
countries largest cable networks- the Sunday supplement Parade, with a
circulation of more than 22 million copies per week; some two dozen
major magazines, including the New Yorker, Vogue, Mademoiselle,
Glamour, Vanity Fair, HQ, Bride's, Gentlemen's Quarterly, Self,
Home&Garden...."

"Furthermore, even those newspapers still under Gentile ownership
and management are so thoroughly dependent upon Jewish advertising..."

"the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington
Post. These three...are the newspapers which set trends and guidelines
for nearly all others. They are the ones which decide what is news and
what isn't, at national and international levels. They originate the
news; the others merely copy it. And all three newspapers are in
Jewish hands...The Sulzberger family also owns, through the New York
Times Co. 36 other newspapers; twelve magazines, including McCall's
and Family Circle..."

"New York's other newspapers are in no better hands than the
Daily News. The New York Post is owned by billionaire Jewish
real-estate developer Peter Kalikow. The Village Voice is the personal
property of Leonard Stern, the billionaire Jewish owner of..."

"There are only three newsmagazines of any note published in the
United States: Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News & World Report....The CEO
of Time Warner Communications is Steven J. Ross, and he is a Jew.
"Newsweek, as mentioned above, is published by the Washington
Post Co., under the Jewess Katherine Meyer Graham..."
"U.S. News & World Report... owned and published by Jewish real
estate developer Mortimer B. Zuckerman..."

" The three largest book publishers...Random House... Simon &
Schuster , and Time Inc. Book Co....All three are owned or controlled
by Jews...The CEO of Simon & Schuster if Richard Snyder, and the
president is Jeremy Kaplan; both are Jews too."

"Western Publishing...ranks first among publishers of children's
books, with more than 50 per cent of the market. Its chairman and CEO
is Richard Bernstein, a Jew."

"Jewish spokesmen customarily will use evasive tactics. "Ted
Turner isn't a Jew!" they will announce..."

"We are doing more than merely giving them a decisive influence
on our political system and virtual control of our government; we also
are giving them control of the minds and souls of our children..."



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Gandalf Grey
2008-02-16 01:12:56 UTC
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Post by Topaz
There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
Hollywood.
Too bad the Jews didn't run Germany before WWII. They could have stopped
Hitler before he nearly destroyed the country.
Topaz
2008-02-16 00:32:43 UTC
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"He was born into humble circumstances, the son of an obscure civil
servant in a remote corner of a crumbling empire, yet his name
resounds throughout the world to this day.
He was rejected by the universities of his time for formal enrollment
in art and in architecture, and yet he erected mighty buildings and
monuments, and today a simple postcard that he drew in ink or charcoal
fetches staggering sums at auction.
He fought as a front line soldier through all four years of the
greatest war in history up to that time, never rising above the rank
of corporal, but he won both of his country's highest decorations for
bravery under fire and rose to command the mightiest armies on earth.
Almost unique in the history of his century, he was not a lawyer or an
aristocrat or a man of inherited wealth and privilege, but a man who
once earned his daily bread with the labor of his hands, and yet he
conquered politics and rose to the leadership of the most brilliant
and creative nation on earth. So that his people might travel across
the land he loved quickly and cheaply, he created a simple and sturdy
automobile still in use today, and a network of highways that still
spans Germany. His game and forestry laws are still in force, and are
praised by ecologists as a model of environmental protection. His
economic program received the sincerest form of flattery from the
loathsome Roosevelt, who stole it and copied it into the context of
the American Depression as his own.
Every man who ever met him personally, even those who became his
bitterest enemies, spoke of him forever afterwards with awe and
admiration. His courtesy and his gallantry toward women were
legendary. With his power and his prestige he could have had any woman
he wanted, but the woman he chose as his life's partner, and who
eventually died by his side, was a simple and humble daughter of the
people.
He did not drink. He did not smoke. He was a lifelong lover of animals
and children and was happiest in the company of toddlers rather than
statesmen and soldiers, and no one ever overheard him use a profane
word or tell a smutty joke. He lifted his people up from the mud of
defeat and despair and alien domination, and he died trying to do the
same for all of us.
To this day, his memory is kept green by the Aryan peoples of Germany
and the world, even though it means prison, and in some countries
death, to honor him or his legacy within the sight or hearing of the
tyrant. He has been slandered, vilified, lied about, cursed,
distorted, and damned every day since his death by the most powerful
and evil tyranny mankind has ever known, and yet his name and his
Symbol cannot be suppressed by force or by propaganda. As we begin
this new Millennium, his book is read and his name is on more lips
than ever before and his image and his strength fills the hearts of a
whole new generation of young Aryan men and women."


"When your mother has grown older,
When her dear, faithful eyes
no longer see life as they once did,
When her feet, grown tired,
No longer want to carry her as she walks -

Then lend her your arm in support,
Escort her with happy pleasure.
The hour will come when, weeping, you
Must accompany her on her final walk.

And if she asks you something,
Then give her an answer.
And if she asks again, then speak!
And if she asks yet again, respond to her,
Not impatiently, but with gentle calm.

And if she cannot understand you properly
Explain all to her happily.
The hour will come, the bitter hour,
When her mouth asks for nothing more."

Those lines were written by Adolf Hitler, in 1923."


In the Thicket of the Forest at Artois
"It was in the thicket of the Artois Wood.
Deep in the trees, on blood-soaked ground,
Lay stretched a wounded German warrior,
And his cries rang out in the night.
In vain ... no echo answered his plea ...
Will he bleed to death like a beast,
That shot in the gut dies alone?

Then suddenly ...
Heavy steps approach from the right
He hears how they stamp on the forest floor ...
And new hope springs from his soul.
And now from the left ...
And now from both sides ...

Two men approach his miserable bed
A German it is, and a Frenchman.
And each watches the other with distrustful glance, And threatening
they aim their weapons.
The German warrior asks:
"What do you do here?"
"I was touched by the needy one's call for help."
"It's your enemy!"
"It is a man who suffers."

And both, wordless, lowered their weapons.
Then entwined their hands
And, with muscles tensed, carefully lifted
The wounded warrior, as if on a stretcher,
And carried him through the woods.

'Til they came to the German outposts.
"Now it is over. He will get good care."
And the Frenchman turns back toward the woods.
But the German grasps for his hand,
Looks, moved, into sorrow-dimmed eyes
And says to him with earnest foreboding:
"I know not what fate holds for us,
Which inscrutably rules in the stars.
Perhaps I shall fall, a victim of your bullet.
Maybe mine will fell you on the sand
For indifferent is the chance of battles.

Yet, however it may be and whatever may come:
We lived these sacred hours,
Where man found himself in man ...
And now, farewell! And God be with you!"

Adolf Hitler, 1916


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Gandalf Grey
2008-02-16 01:11:53 UTC
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Post by Topaz
"He was born into humble circumstances,
And died like the miserable coward he really was. Poisoning his own dog
just to make sure the cyanide he'd ordered given to so many others would
work on him. But he was also enough of a coward to shoot himself as well.

In the end, he hadn't the guts to stand up to what he had done. Like all
nazis, he turned out to be a coward in the end.
Topaz
2008-02-16 03:05:34 UTC
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German leaders believed in death before dishonor. They knew the
allies were subhuman monsters:


Eyewitness account by Mrs. Leonora Geier (nee Cavoa, born Oct 22,
1925, Sao Paulo,
Brazil) to Dr. Trutz Foelsche, Ph.D

Deutsche Nationalzeitung, No. 17-65, p. 7:

"On the morning of February, 16, (1945) a Russian detachment
occupied the RAD
(Reichsarbeitsdienst) camp Vilmsee near Neustettin. The Commissar told
me in good
German language that the camp was dissolved and that we, as a unit
with uniforms (RAD - German Labour Service, not military uniforms),
would be transported to a collection camp. Since I, as a Brazilian
citizen, belong to an allied nation, he asked me to take over
as a leader of the transport that went to Neustettin, into the yard of
the former iron factory. We were about 500 girls (Maidens of the
Reichsarbeitsdienst - German Labour Service).

He said I could come into the orderly room, which I accepted.
Immediately he directed
me to make no further contact with other women, because they were
members of an illegal army. On my response that this what not true, he
cut me off with the remark that I would be shot immediately, if I
would repeat in any form a similar statement.

"Suddenly I heard loud screams, and promptly five girls were brought
in by the two Red Armists. The Commissar ordered them to undress. When
they, in a sense of shame, refused to do so, he ordered me to undress
them and follow him with the girls. We walked through the yard to the
former factory kitchen, which was completely cleared out
except for some tables along the window wall. It was dreadfully cold
and the unfortunate girls trembled. In the huge tiled room several
Russians waited for us who were obviously making obscene remarks
because every word was followed by loud laughter.
The Commissar then directed me to watch how one makes sissies out of
'The Master Race'.
Now two Poles, clad in trousers only, entered the room. At their
sight the girls cried out.
Briskly, they seized the first of the two girls and bent her over with
her back over the edge of the table until her joints cracked. I almost
fainted when one of the men pulled his knife and cut off her right
breast in the presence of the other girls. I have never heard a
human being scream as desperately as this young woman. After this
'operation' both men stabbed her several times in the abdomen,
accompanied by the howling of the Russians.
The next girl cried for mercy, in vain, since she was exceptionally
pretty. I had the impression that the 'work' was carried out very
slowly. The other three girls were completely broken down, cried for
their mothers and begged for a speedy death, but also
fate them overtook.
The last of the girls was still half a child, with barely developed
breasts, one tore the
flesh literally from her ribs until the white bone appeared.
Again, five girls were brought in. This time, they had been selected
carefully. All were
developed and pretty. When they saw the bodies of their predecessors,
they began to cry and scream. Weak as they were, they tried to defend
themselves but to no avail; the Poles became more cruel every time.
One of the girls, they cut open her womb and trunk over the whole
length; poured a can of machine oil into the mutilated body and tried
to set fire
to it. Another was shot in the genitals by a Russia, before they cut
off her breasts.
A great howling began when someone brought a saw from a toolbox.
Now, using the saw, they set to work to the breasts of the girls to
pieces, which in a short period of time
led to the floor being covered with blood. A blood rage seized the
Russians. Continuously
one of them brought more and more girls.
Like a red fog, I saw the gruesome happenings again and again and I
perceived the inhuman screaming at the torture of their breasts and
the load groaning at the mutilation of their private parts. When my
legs failed me I was forced into a chair. The Commissar persistently
watched me to make sure I was looking toward the torture scenes. In
fact, when I had to vomit, they even paused with their tortures. One
girl had not undressed completely, she may have been somewhat older
than the rest of the girls who were about 17-years old. One of the
torturers soaked her bra with oil and ignited it and, while she cried
out, another drove a thin iron rod into her vagina until it emerged at
her naval.
In the yard they liquidated entire groups of girls, after they had
selected the prettiest ones for the torture room. The air was filled
with the death cries of many hundreds of girls. But in view of what
happened here, the slaughter outside could be considered more humane.
It was a dreadful fact that not one of the girls brought into the
torture room lost here consciousness.
In their horror all were equal in their expressions. It was always
the same; the begging for mercy, the high-pitched scream when their
breasts were cut and their genitals mutilated. Several times the
slaughter was interrupted to sweep out the blood and to clear away the
corpses.
That evening I sank into a severe nerve fever. From then on I lack
any recollection
until the moment I awoke in a military hospital. German troops had
recaptured Neustettin temporarily, and had liberated us. As I learned
later, approximately 2,000 girls were murdered during the first three
days of the first round of Russian occupation."


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Gandalf Grey
2008-02-16 03:29:21 UTC
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Post by Topaz
German leaders believed in death before dishonor.
Yes. Jewish deaths and nazi dishonor. That's why the nazi party and Herr
Hitler have gone down in history is synonymous for "shame."
Topaz
2008-02-16 11:03:23 UTC
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Here is a quote from "The Battle for Berlin" by Joseph Goebbels:

We had no idea of the danger that threatened us then. I myself did not
yet know Marxism well enough to foresee the possible consequences. I
shrugged my shoulders as I read the dark prose of the red press and
awaited expectantly the decisive evening.
Around 8 p.m. we drove in an old rusty car from the city center to
Wedding. A cold gray mist hung under a starless sky. Our hearts were
bursting with impatience and expectation.
As we drove down Müllerstraße it was already clear that the evening
did not bode well. Groups of dark figures stood on every street
corner. They apparently planned to teach our party members a bloody
lesson before they even got to the meeting.

Dark masses of people stood outside the Pharus Hall, expressing their
rage and hate with loud and impudent threats.

The leader of the protective forces cleared a way for us and reported
briefly that the hall had been packed since 7:15 p.m. and had been
closed by police. About two-thirds of the audience were Red Front
Fighters. That was what we wanted. There would be a decision. We were
ready to give it all we had.

Entering the hall, we encountered a warm, stiffling aroma of beer and
tobacco. The hall was hot. A lively roar of voices filled the hall.
People were packed in tightly. We reached the podium only with
difficulty.

No sooner was I recognized than hundreds of voices filled with rage
and revenge thundered in my ears: "Bloodhound! Murder of Workers!"
Those were the mildest words they shouted. But a welcoming group of
some party members and S.A. Men answered with passion. Excited battle
cries sounded from the platform. I saw immediately that we were a
minority, but a minority determined to fight, and therefore win.

It was still our custom then for an S.A. leader to chair all of the
party's public meetings. Here too. Tall as a tree he stood up front
and asked for silence with his upraised arm. That was easier said than
done. Mocking laughter was the answer. Insults flew toward the
platform from every corner of the room. People growled and screamed
and raged. There were world revolutionaries scattered about who
apparently had gained the courage they needed by drinking. It was
impossible to quiet the hall. The class-conscious proletariat had not
come to discuss but to fight, to break things up, to put an end to the
Fascist specter with callused workers' fists.

We were not uncertain, even for a moment. We also knew that if the
enemy did not succeed this time in what he had threatened, the future
success of the movement in Berlin was assured.

Fifteen or twenty S.A. and S.S. men stood before the platform in
uniforms and arm bands, an impudent and direct provocation to the Red
Front Fighters. Behind me was a select group of reliable people ready
at any moment to risk their lives to defend me from the onrushing red
mob with brutal force.
The Communists made an obvious mistake in their tactics. They had
scattered small groups throughout the hall, but clumped most of the
rest in the right rear of the hall. I recognized immediately that
there was the center of unrest, and if anything was to be done, we
first had to deal ruthlessly with them. Whenever the chair tried to
open the meeting, a dark chap stood up on a stool and shouted "Point
of Order!" Hundreds of others yelled the same after him.

If one takes from the mass their leader or also their seducer, they
are leaderless and easily controlled. Our tactic therefore was to
silence this cowardly troublemaker at any cost. He felt secure back
there, surrounded by his comrades. We tried to do this peacefully a
few times. The chair shouted over the uproar: "There will be
discussion afterward! But we determine the rules of order!"

That was an ineffective attempt at an unsuitable object. The screamer
wanted to throw the meeting into confusion by his endless shouts and
bring things to the boiling point. Then a general melee would result.

As our efforts to bring the meeting to order peacefully proved
unsuccessful, I took the head of the defensive forces to the side, and
immediately after groups of his men slipped through the thundering
Communist masses. Before the astonished and surprised Red Front troops
realized what was happening, our comrades had hauled the troublemaker
down from his stool and brought him through the raging crowd to the
podium. That was unexpected, but what followed was no surprise. A beer
glass flew through the air and crashed to the floor. That was the
signal for the first major meeting hall battle. Chairs were broken and
legs ripped from tables. Glasses and bottles suddenly appeared and all
hell broke loose. The battle raged for ten minutes. Glasses, bottles,
table and chair legs flew randomly through the air. A deafening roar
rose; the red beast was set free and wanted its victims.

At first it looked as if we were lost. The Communist attack was sudden
and explosive, completely unexpected. But soon the S.A. and S.S. men
distributed throughout the hall and in front of the platform recovered
from their surprise and counterattacked with bold courage. It quickly
became clear that although the Communist Party had masses behind it,
these masses became cowards when faced with a firmly disciplined and
determined opponent. They ran. In short order the red mob that had
come to break up our meeting had been driven from the hall. The order
that could not be secured by good will was gained by brute force.

Usually one is not aware of the stages of a meeting hall battle. Only
later does one recall them. I still remember a scene that I will never
forget; on the podium stood a young S.A. man whom I did not know. He
was hurling his missiles into the on-coming red mob. Suddenly a beer
glass thrown from the distance hit him on the head. A wide stream of
blood ran down his face. He sank with a cry. After a few seconds he
stood up again, grabbed water bottle from the table and threw it into
the hall, where it clattered against the head of an opponent.

The face of this young man is engraved in my memory. This
lightening-fast moment is unforgettable. This gravely-wounded S.A. man
would soon, and indeed for all times, become my most reliable and
loyal comrade.

Only after the red mob had been driven howling, growling and cursing
from the field could one tell how serious and costly the battle had
been. Ten lay in their blood on the platform, most with head injuries,
two with severe concussions. The table and stairs to the platform were
covered in blood. The whole hall resembled a field of ruins.

In the midst of this bloody and ruined wasteland, our tree-high S.A.
leader resumed his place and declared with iron calm: "The meeting
will continue. The speaker has the floor."

Never before or since have I spoken under such dramatic conditions.
Behind me, groaning in pain and bleeding, were seriously injured S.A.
comrades. Around me were broken chair legs, shattered beer glasses and
blood. The whole meeting was icily silent.
We lacked then a medical corps. Since we were in a proletarian
district, we had to have our seriously wounded carried out by
so-called worker volunteers. There were scenes outdoors of
unimaginable inhumanity. The bestial people who were supposedly
fighting for universal brotherhood insulted our poor and defenseless
injured with phases like: "Isn't that pig dead yet?"

Under such conditions it was impossible to give a coherent speech.
Scarcely had I begun to speak when another group of volunteers entered
the hall to carry off a seriously wounded S.A. man on a stretcher. One
of them, encountering the brutal apostles of humanity outside the door
and their unflattering and crude language, shouted for me in
desperation. His voice could be heard loudly and unmistakably on the
platform I interrupted my speech and went through the hall, where
there were still scattered Communist commando groups. Still surprised
by what had happened, they stood quietly and shyly to the side. I bade
farewell to the seriously wounded S.A. comrades.



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p***@gmail.com
2008-02-10 09:49:12 UTC
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On 9 Feb., 20:00, Topaz <***@hotmail.com> wrote:

Fuck off, nazi piece of shit.
Get help.
p***@gmail.com
2008-02-09 09:05:01 UTC
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On 9 Feb., 00:57, Topaz <***@hotmail.com> wrote:

Fuck off, nazi piece of shit.
Get help.
Topaz
2008-02-09 11:21:34 UTC
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Did you ever wonder why America is declining in popularity around
the world, and especially in Europe?

Perhaps it might have something to do with America's increasingly
common image as a puppet-state of International Jewry. Perhaps it
might also have something to do with growing European resentment
toward being bossed around by U.S. Congressmen who are first and
foremost lackeys of the Jewish power structure. Yes, that's right
-- United States Congressmen are spending more and more of their
time instructing European nations about what steps they should
take to control the growing awareness of destructive Jewish
behaviors throughout Europe. Not only has entrance into NATO for
some nations been predicated upon approval by the American Jewish
Committee, but there exists a little known official U.S.
Government agency called "The Commission on Security and
Cooperation in Europe", also known as "The Helsinki Commission,"
which consists of nine members from the United States Senate,
nine members from the House of Representatives, and one member
each from the Departments of State, Defense and Commerce. A
professional staff assists the Commissioners in their work -- and
a glance at their website at <http://www.csce.gov> will readily
confirm that their work has recently focused on squelching
justifiable criticism of Jewish involvement in the national and
international affairs of European nations -- or what they refer
to as "combating anti-Semitism." Our American tax dollars are not
only being spent to support an illegitimate Jewish theocracy
(Israel), but we are also funding American intervention in
European affairs on behalf of International Jewry.

Led by Congressman Christopher Smith of New Jersey, "our"
congress is working feverishly to coerce European leaders to
further suppress any criticism of Jewish activities, no matter
how mild that criticism may be. In the April 30, 2003 edition of
the Congressional Record you will find examples of Smith's
shameless application of political pressure on sovereign European
nations:

From [United States of America PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE
108th CONGRESS, FIRST SESSION Vol. 149 Washington, Wednesday,
April 30, 2003], we read Smith's own words as he says

"The U.S. Helsinki Commission, which I co-chair, has worked with
the Museum on several occasions, from pushing for the release of
documents from the Romani concentration camp in Lety, Czech
Republic, to urging Romania to give greater meaning to its stated
commitment of rejecting anti-Semitism by removing Antonescu
statues from public lands. In response to the alarming spike of
anti-Semitic incidents found last summer in Europe, myself and
other Members of the Commission have been very active in urging
governments and elected officials to denounce the violence and
ensure their laws are enabled to prosecute the perpetrators. In
support of this effort, I have introduced H. Con. Res. 49,
urging, among other things, European states to 'promote the
creation of educational efforts throughout the region
encompassing the participating States of the OSCE to counter
anti-Semitic stereotypes and attitudes among younger people,
increase Holocaust awareness programs, and help identify the
necessary resources to accomplish this goal.' It is my hope that
other countries will copy the unique and effective model of the
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum."

Smith is not alone in his demands. Congressman Joseph Crowley of
New York wants to suppress any critical discussion of Jewish
behavior: [ Ibid., SUBMITTED REMARKS OF HON. JOSEPH CROWLEY,
MEMBER, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES]

"Mr. Chairman, thank you for the opportunity to address this
distinguished forum. I am greatly concerned by the rise of
anti-Semitism throughout the OSCE region....In the 21st century,
countries in Europe, the Caucasus, and Central Asia should not
witness attacks against Jews... Nor should these countries
tolerate the hatred spewed by skinheads and other radical groups
throughout the region. Such hatred has brought catastrophe to the
region in our lifetimes already, and we must ensure that the
fields of Europe and Asia are not sown with the seeds of
intolerance ever again. It is the responsibility of the OSCE
governments to set a zero tolerance policy for anti-Semitic
speech and acts. In their OSCE commitments, all governments
pledged to condemn anti-Semitism unequivocally and take effective
measures to... prosecute those who commit such hate crimes..."

The OSCE site also features the speech of one Juliane
Danker-Wetze, who bewails the fact that some European thinkers
are starting to connect the dots and find that they form a Star
of David:

"Jews are imagined [sic] to be a national and international
influential group who allegedly exert a bad influence on or even
steer politics, the economy and the media, which is a way of
expressing the old anti-Semitic prejudice of hidden Jewish
power."
[<http://tinyurl.com/cuam> ]

And the so-called Helsinki Commission, which was founded in 1976
supposedly to further human rights under Soviet Communism,
recently heard from one of the main opponents of the right of
free speech, none other than the Jewish ADL. [
<http://www.ncsj.org/AuxPages/121102JTA.shtml> ] Though they
sugar-coat the language, what the ADL is really "pushing" (their
word) the supine Congressmen to do is to make criticism of our
'superhuman' self-chosen masters illegal. The Jewish Telegraphic
Agency informs us:

"Jewish leaders are pushing the White House and Congress to take
a firmer stance against European anti-Semitism. A group of German
and American lawmakers heard Tuesday from Jewish leaders who
expressed concern about the rise of anti-Semitism in Europe. The
Jewish leaders also suggested ways to combat anti-Semitism in
states that participate in the Organization for Security and
Cooperation in Europe. 'Many European Jews today feel more
vulnerable, disillusioned and frightened than at any time since
the Holocaust,' said Ambassador Alfred Moses, past president of
the American Jewish Committee and a former U.S. ambassador to
Romania. 'I know from my personal experience that anti-Semitism
is never far below the surface in Central and Eastern Europe.'
The Anti-Defamation League presented a series of recommendations
on combating the problem, including urging political leaders to
speak out against bigotry, strengthening administrative, legal
and monitoring instruments and using educational initiatives.
'While the last century witnessed the most heinous results of
bigotry unchecked, fortunately we also have witnessed in our
lifetime powerful examples of how strong U.S. and German
leadership have brought about dramatic change,' said Kenneth
Jacobson, ADL's associate national director. 'America and
Germany, each having learned painful lessons from their
respective past experiences with the danger of bigotry, are
uniquely positioned to lead the OSCE' ...The visit to Washington
by members of the German Bundestag was a follow-up to a July
session in Berlin on anti-Semitism. Moses noted that incidents of
anti-Semitism have risen in Europe because of the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Israel's ties to the United States
and the momentum that right-wing groups have been gaining in some
European countries. U.S. and German lawmakers signed a letter of
intent to strengthen their work against anti-Semitism, use
educational initiatives and urge other parliaments to follow
their lead."

As Robert Faurisson once said at a meeting in Washington, D.C.
"by 'human rights' is usually meant 'Jewish rights'" -- which
follows the notion, enshrined in the Jewish 'holy book,' the
Talmud, that only Jews are human and that non-Jews are equivalent
to beasts. And isn't that what the Helsinki Commission is
currently all about? -- keeping the European cattle from getting
too uppity and questioning their keepers and questioning why they
are kept in economic and political pens?

The Helsinki Commission isn't the only group under the thumb of
organized Jews, manipulating governments behind the scenes. A
secretive group with the Orwellian-sounding name of the 'Office
of Special Plans' also deserves our attention.

The 'Office of Special Plans' is nominally within the Pentagon
and is headed by a Jew named Abram Shulsky. It is of very recent
incarnation, having been created by several Jewish handlers of
George Bush with the explicit purpose of expanding the U.S.-led
war for Israel in the Mideast.

The Jews who came to power under Bush, or rather over Bush, saw
9/11 as an almost heaven-sent opportunity to get the despised
Americans crying tears for their dead countrymen (the deaths of
whom the Israeli Mossad, who had been following Mohammed Atta for
months, probably condoned to create that very opportunity), and
to get the same stupid American goyim fired up for having
themselves and Moslem goyim slaughtered in the Middle East for
Holy Israel's sake. Afghanistan was their first and easy target,
but Iraq was a harder nut to crack.

The neoconservative Jews' thirst for Iraqi blood began years
before 9-11, of course, as did their determination to find a
justification for spilling it. As early as March 2001, Richard
Perle, then Bush's new chairman of the Defense Policy Board, made
the claim that Iraq almost certainly had nuclear weapons. [
<http://tinyurl.com/cukp> ] In one of the most bizarre cases of
Jewish triplespeak I have ever heard, Perle actually argued
before Congress that Saddam had to have these weapons
specifically because our intelligence indicated that he did not:
"Does Saddam now have weapons of mass destruction? Sure he does.
How far he's gone on the nuclear-weapon side I don't think we
really know. My guess is it's further than we think. It's always
further than we think, because we limit ourselves, as we think
about this, to what we're able to prove and demonstrate." Now,
limiting yourself to what you can prove and demonstrate is
certainly dangerous. At least it is dangerous to Jews, as with
their fantastic tales of World War II persecution that are as
profitable as they are fictitious. Instead of limiting ourselves
to facts, far better for us to believe whatever tales the Jews
want us to believe and launch another world war. Now that's safe!

The Jews wanted to destroy Iraq because Iraq's secular Arab
government was a bulwark against Israeli expansionism and
aggression in the region. But that reason wasn't enough to
convince the American people. Since the hated-by-Jews Americans
were still somewhat exercised over the deaths of Americans on
9-11, the Jews decided that a case had to be made that Iraq was
somehow involved in international terrorism and possessed
so-called Weapons of Mass Destruction which could, conceivably,
threaten Americans.

The problem was that there was no evidence for this claim.

Neither the Central Intelligence Agency nor the Defense
Intelligence Agency could discover any credible evidence showing
that Iraq supported al-Qaeda -- in fact, the opposite was true.
And the CIA and the DIA also could find no evidence whatever that
Iraq possessed any of the dreaded 'Weapons of Mass Destruction'
that could threaten America. Bush's Jewish handlers found this
situation intolerable. They wanted their war and they were going
to get their war, by hook or by crook.

In the same way that they 'know' that 'God is the Jewish people'
they also 'knew' that Saddam must have nuclear, chemical, and
biological weapons capable of harming or at least frightening
Americans. It would serve their purposes if that were true, so it
must be true. The trouble was that the CIA and the DIA weren't
buying it. The facts that their extensive intelligence networks
turned up all indicated the opposite.

The frustration of Bush's Jewish handlers was profound. What to
do? Create their own intelligence-agency-lite. And so the Office
of Special Plans was born. The small group of influential Jews
who run this secretive outfit even call it -- in typically Jewish
mockery of those who expose Jewish conspiracy -- "the Cabal." [
<http://tinyurl.com/b26r> ]

Starting with just two staff people and never having more than
five (compared to the CIA and DIA with their thousands of agents
and analysts worldwide) and led by the Jew Abram Shulsky, the
Office of Special Plans was designed at the outset to feed
Rumsfeld and Bush, via Wolfowitz and Feith, a series of lies
which would cause them to question the intelligence agencies'
reports.

Jewish writer Robert Dreyfuss describes the procedure:

"Rumsfeld noted that a primary purpose of the unit was to provide
him with ammunition that he could use to harass the CIA staffer
who briefs him every morning. 'In comes the briefer, and she
walks through the daily brief and I ask questions,' said
Rumsfeld. 'What I could do is say, Gee, what about this? Or what
about that? Has somebody thought of this?' Using powerful
computers and having access to reams of intelligence factoids,
Feith's team could create a steady stream of data bits that
Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Feith himself could use to pick apart the
CIA's conclusions, sending the CIA's collectors and analysts back
to rewrite their reports." And, of course, preventing the real
intelligence reports from being believed and from giving the
President any second thoughts about obeying any of the orders of
the neoconservative Jews who surround him.

W. Patrick Lang, former chief of Middle East intelligence at the
D.I.A., admitted that this group has pulled a real coup and has
"...banded together to dominate the government's foreign policy,
and they've pulled it off. They're running Chalabi. The D.I.A.
has been intimidated and beaten to a pulp. And there's no guts at
all in the C.I.A.."

Jewish writer Seymour Hersh, writing in The New Yorker, quotes an
unnamed Pentagon advisor who worked with the Office of Special
Plans as crowing about Wolfowitz, Shulsky, and their coup: "I'd
love to be the historian who writes the story of how this small
group of eight or nine people made the case and won," defeating
the combined might of the CIA and DIA.

Shulsky has had a long relationship with the Jewish power
structure, and is described as the intellectual heir of Jewish
philosopher Leo Strauss of the University of Chicago, a person
who, for some unknown reason, decided to flee Europe in 1937.
Shulsky and Wolfowitz both received their doctorates under
Strauss in 1972. It is most revealing, I think, to consider
Wolfowitz and Shulsky as students of Strauss when one of
Strauss's major themes as a philosopher, according to Stephen
Holmes, a law professor at New York University, was the idea that
"philosophers need to tell noble lies not only to the people at
large but also to powerful politicians." I'll say that again -- a
guiding principle of this small Jewish cabal that even calls
itself "the Cabal" that tells our government what to do is that
"philosophers need to tell noble lies not only to the people at
large but also to powerful politicians." "Noble lies," of course,
are lies which advance the interests of the Jews.

Vincent Cannistraro, the former head of anti-terrorism operations
and analysis at the C.I.A., stated of this Jewish group: "...they
all work together. This has been going on since the
nineteen-eighties, but they've never been able to coalesce as
they have now. September 11th gave them the opportunity, and now
they're in heaven. They believe the intelligence is there. They
want to believe it. It has to be there."

The Office of Special Plans also had a very cozy relationship
with the criminal and con-man Ahmed Chalabi of the so-called
Iraqi National Congress, who is very eager to become the Jews'
front man in Iraq, and who "cooperated" by making up stories
which could then be attributed to "Iraqi defectors" when recited
for the President. Experienced intelligence analysts dismiss the
tales told by Chalabi as totally worthless fictions.
[ <http://www.prospect.org/print/V13/22/dreyfuss-r.html> ]
Columnist Harold Meyerson calls what the Office of Special Plans
did "faith-based intelligence." I call it Shilling for Sharon.
The short name of course, is simply lying. And these liars not
only influenced our not-so-bright leaders, but fed their false
stories to the mainly Jewish-controlled media who used them
influence the public to support the Jews' new war.

The Jews' plan worked quite well. They got the ear of the
President, his superstitious heart, and his easily-befuddled
brain. They got their war. But it was all based on lies. It has
been many weeks since the fall of Iraq, and no evidence of Iraqi
"Weapons of Mass Destruction" have been found. Even Task Force
75, the armed services team specifically created to root out
Saddam's supposedly hidden and supposedly illegal arsenal has
found nothing and is actually closing up shop.

The Office of Special Plans is nothing but an odious Jewish lie
factory.

It is this Jewish lie factory that will soon attempt to start
another war, this time for 'regime change' in Iran. [
<http://tinyurl.com/cusy> ] They're already gearing up for a battle
with diplomats in the State Department who oppose the Iranian
step in the Jews' world war. They're already arranging meetings
between a pretender to the Iranian throne and Ariel Sharon.
William Kristol's Weekly Standard is already banging the war
drums against Iran, and another Jew, Michael Rubin, is already
concentrating on Iran from within Shulsky's Office of Special
Plans. We told you months ago on American Dissident Voices that
this was going to happen, and the Office of Special Plans is
making our prediction come true.

It is from this Jewish lie factory that came the tales that Colin
Powell told the UN about Iraq's purchase of nuclear material from
Nigeria. It is from this Jewish lie factory that the story of a
"ring" of chemical weapons around Baghdad originated. It is from
this Jewish lie factory that came the 'revelation' that al-Qaeda
and Saddam were allies. It is this Jewish lie factory that killed
innocent children and blew off their heads and arms and legs. It
is this Jewish lie factory that killed your son and maimed your
daughter.

Their intelligence was worthless. Their lies were priceless.
You're being killed because you believe in the emperor's new
clothes. The purpose of this program is to stop you from
believing in lies; to help you understand how you are being
ruled; to help you see reality; to save your family, your
country, and your life.


http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/

http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
p***@gmail.com
2008-02-09 15:20:27 UTC
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On 9 Feb., 12:21, Topaz <***@hotmail.com> wrote:


Fuck off, nazi piece of shit.
Get help.
Now.
DeserTBoB
2008-02-09 16:35:49 UTC
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Post by Topaz
Did you ever wonder why America is declining in popularity around
the world, and especially in Europe?
Perhaps it might have something to do with America's increasingly
common image as a puppet-state of International Jewry. <snip>
I thought I put you in the oven already, Topaz!
Tom Sr.
2008-02-08 22:46:35 UTC
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HITLARY GOES...
Wow. In Google Groups there are 42 votes on this post (most posts
only get 1 or 2) and it has a 5-star rating.

Some ultraconservative fanatic has way TOO many free accounts.

But, ha-ha, the overall thread only has a 2-star rating!

By the way, might this be another user-account for the Lone Jake and
Ranger Hammer? I've seen this same massive postive voting on his
posts as well.

-Tom Sr.
DeserTBoB
2008-02-08 23:08:14 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:46:35 -0800 (PST), "Tom Sr."
Post by Tom Sr.
Wow. In Google Groups there are 42 votes on this post (most posts
only get 1 or 2) and it has a 5-star rating. <snip>
First, let's put the "Goo Goo Groopz" post rating into perspective.

It means bupkis. No one on Usenet using proper news readers even
knows it exists nor cares. Only people who must use Google Groups
(which I call "Usenet For 'Tards") for NNTP access see those stars,
and they only matter to other "Goo Goos."

Secondly, "Goo Goo" gives away accounts to all comers, and a lot of
fruitcakes that use "Goo Goo" (Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA is yet
another example; he's had 29 Goo Goo accounts banned for threats of
violence, fraud, spam ad nauseam, etc.) bulk up on multiple accounts
using multiple MAPI 4 freebie email accounts, just because they can.
If you do a cursory accounting, it's mostly the screwball posts from
"Goo Goo" that are from the worst nut jobs on Usenet presently.

So, it matters not a whit. The last traffic surveys of Usenet I've
seen show that "Goo Goo Groopz" only accounts for 0.5% of the Usenet
traffic worldwide. Thus, anything that's of interest solely to "Goo
Goo Grooperz" interests me not.

What IS of value regarding "Goo Goo" is their Usenet archive search
engine, but even that's suspect. "Goo Goo" didn't compile the
archives at all; rather, they simply bought out Déjà, which did indeed
compile the archives over a period of several years. "Goo Goo's"
search engine is problematic and only fairly reliable, and, for
reasons unknown, "Goo Goo" allows the flakes who use their Usenet
service to "cancel" posts like all NNTP servers did in the days of
yore. Thus, a troll can post spam or inflammatory or illegal posts
all day long, then simply "cancel" them and people on "Goo Goo" can't
turn them in to security. Ah, but the NNTP client sure can, simply by
pulling up the post that's still on their server and forwarding it,
with header, to groups-***@google.com . "Goo Goo" keeps ALL posts,
canceled or not, for at least five year by law, thus foiling the
"anonymity" of trolls.

...and NO, I don't like "Goo Goo Groopz" very much. One survey showed
that "Goo Goo" a couple of years ago was the source of 63% of all
eBay-related spam that rankled newsgroups back then, and it continues
to be a source of much of the US-based trolls. Their search engine is
a handy tool in uncovering trolls and spammers, however, but there are
other Usenet search databases/engines out there now too, such as
Imbiblio.
Tom Sr.
2008-02-08 22:49:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by P***@yahoo.com
HITLARY GOES
*whoops* Something weird is going on with Google Groups (again).
When I called up the thread again, the ratings and numbers had all
changed!

-Tom Sr.
Michael T.
2008-02-08 23:11:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by P***@yahoo.com
In a conference call with reporters, Clinton communications director
Howard Wolfson Friday excoriated MSNBC's David Shuster for suggesting
the Clinton campaign had "pimped out" 27-year old Chelsea by having
her place phone calls to Democratic Party superdelegates on her
mother's behalf. Wolfson called the comment "beneath contempt" and
disgusting.
I am a fan of Shuster, but this was totally inappropriate and apparently he
is paying a price - albeit a temporary one.

Shuster Suspended For "Pimped Out" Comment
http://tinyurl.com/yw78fc
Topaz
2008-02-08 23:52:40 UTC
Permalink
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/book-exposes-nwos-hidden-agenda-for-feminism-homosexuality/
Book Exposes NWO's Hidden Agenda For Feminism & Homosexuality
February 7, 2008


When discussing the New World Order and its agenda of destroying
Western Civilization, the focus seems to be on issues like banking,
politics, false flag attacks and whatnot. It's easy to lose sight of
the more subtle (yet equally powerful) weapons employed against
mankind, especially the attack on the most basic building block of any
society-the nuclear family.
One book recently published by a well-known internet writer covers
this topic in a way not regularly seen. Entitled Cruel Hoax, feminism
and the New World Order, Henry Makow PhD of www.henrymakow.com
discusses the devastation wrought on Western society by feminism and
its ugly twin sisters-the militant homosexual agenda, abortion,
pornography and "sexual liberation." In "Cruel Hoax" Makow shows how a
determined enemy can conquer a nation-not with armies and tanks-but
with destructive ideas that bore into the load-bearing beams of
society.
The book shows that feminism was not a spontaneous grassroots
"progressive" movement but rather was deliberately created by elite
Communist and CIA agents like Betty Frieden and Gloria Steinem, using
the mass media to undermine gender roles and the family. He makes a
convincing case that we are being reengineered to behave as
homosexuals in every sense except same-sex attraction for the express
purpose of sexualizing the population but with no reproduction taking
place, at least not in nuclear families.
He asserts that the feminist demand for "equal power" causes this
neutering and sex role confusion. Makow maintains that masculinity is
defined by power and femininity is defined by love.
"Men want power," says Makow. "Women want love. Heterosexuality is
based on the exchange of female power for male love, and when men
trade power for love, they are feminized and when women demand power
instead of love they are masculinized."
Makow's explanation of heterosexuality is one of the more lucid and
original yet offered. In an age where paid mouthpieces and daily
television programs blather on endlessly about what men and women are
and aren't, Makow goes right to the most irreducible, simplified of
definitions-men represent raw power to protect and provide for a
family and women represent the nurturing qualities needed for the
human species to survive.
Drawing on historical documentation from the mouths of the New World
Order architects and circumstantial evidence abundant to all with eyes
to see, Makow paints a frightening picture of a society dying a slow,
tortuous death and going out-not with a bang, but a whimper. He cites
the changes in attitude about male-female relations as well as
marriage and children. He shows how individuals in the West-through a
deliberate yet subtle media campaign-have succumbed to a collective
narcissistic and overly-sexualized worldview to the point that they
can no longer function intellectually, making them easy prey for
powerful forces at work in remolding society.
A former teacher of English at the University of Winnipeg in Canada,
Makow encountered this agenda first-hand by allowing free and open
discussion of male/female relations in his courses. In short time,
female students majoring in "Women's Studies" protested and his
contract wasn't extended. A smear campaign in the media compared him
to a doctor who uses his position to fondle female patients. He sued
the "Winnipeg Sun" for libel and won.
'The NWO conspiracy seeks to destroy all collective forces, races,
religions, nations and families, anything that competes with the
bankers and the power-elite. In its most basic description, it is
satanic and anti-God. It seeks to reduce all people to the level
described by George Orwell and Aldous Huxley in their classic
dystopias."
Naturally, Makow has been targeted by the usual suspects since
beginning his crusade. The Canadian Jewish Congress has issued
complaints with the Canadian Human Rights Commission over his writings
on Zionism. Despite growing up in a secular Jewish home he has
rejected the ethno-centric, exclusivist teachings of Judaism and
although he does not attend a church, he basically agrees with the
teachings of Jesus.
In "Cruel Hoax" he weighs in on the present 'war on terror', saying it
is rooted in the desire to consolidate the power of the central
bankers and create a thinly veiled totalitarian world government. He
points out how the NWO architects have been trying for years to
destabilize Muslim societies with the same feminist, anti-male and
anti-family ideas that have wrought havoc on the West .
He points to the resources the NWO forces have devoted to painting
Muslim women as oppressed by their male-dominated societies: 'Look at
all the attention paid to the burkha and headscarf while failing to
show the low rates of divorce and out-of-wedlock children in the
Middle East.' he says. 'They see the success they have achieved in the
West by confusing the roles of women and men and are repeating it in
the present 'war on terror'.
Those wishing to understand the true depth of the assault on
civilization need to make "Cruel Hoax" required reading. Like special
glasses that help bring a confusing picture into focus, it is an eye
opener. "Cruel Hoax" demonstrates just how deep the conspiracy against
mankind goes and that it is not as remote and far-removed as some
people assume.


http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/

http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
Gandalf Grey
2008-02-09 00:00:33 UTC
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"Topaz" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
http://www.amazon.com/Racist-Mind-Portraits-American-Neo-Nazis/dp/0140234497
Dennis Kemmerer
2008-02-09 00:19:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Topaz
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/book-exposes-nwos-hidden-agenda-for-feminism-homosexuality/
Book Exposes NWO's Hidden Agenda For Feminism & Homosexuality
February 7, 2008
Henry Makow is a racist, homophobic misogynist with a really leaky tinfoil
hat.

[snip remainder of conspiracy garbage]
DeserTBoB
2008-02-09 01:21:56 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:19:45 -0800, "Dennis Kemmerer"
Post by Dennis Kemmerer
Post by Topaz
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/book-exposes-nwos-hidden-agenda-for-feminism-homosexuality/
Book Exposes NWO's Hidden Agenda For Feminism & Homosexuality
February 7, 2008
Henry Makow is a racist, homophobic misogynist with a really leaky tinfoil
hat. <snip>
Ooooh...he must be a Ron Paul supporter, too!
Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
2008-02-09 01:26:26 UTC
Permalink
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/book-exposes-nwos-hidden...
Book Exposes NWO's Hidden Agenda For Feminism & Homosexuality
February 7, 2008
When discussing the New World Order and its agenda of destroying
Western Civilization, the focus seems to be on issues like banking,
politics, false flag attacks and whatnot. It's easy to lose sight of
the more subtle (yet equally powerful) weapons employed against
mankind, especially the attack on the most basic building block of any
society-the nuclear family.
One book recently published by a well-known internet writer covers
this topic in a way not regularly seen. Entitled Cruel Hoax, feminism
and the New World Order, Henry Makow PhD ofwww.henrymakow.com
discusses the devastation wrought on Western society by feminism and
its ugly twin sisters-the militant homosexual agenda, abortion,
pornography and "sexual liberation." In "Cruel Hoax" Makow shows how a
determined enemy can conquer a nation-not with armies and tanks-but
with destructive ideas that bore into the load-bearing beams of
society.
The book shows that feminism was not a spontaneous grassroots
"progressive" movement but rather was deliberately created by elite
Communist and CIA agents like Betty Frieden and Gloria Steinem, using
the mass media to undermine gender roles and the family. He makes a
convincing case that we are being reengineered to behave as
homosexuals in every sense except same-sex attraction for the express
purpose of sexualizing the population but with no reproduction taking
place, at least not in nuclear families.
He asserts that the feminist demand for "equal power" causes this
neutering and sex role confusion. Makow maintains that masculinity is
defined by power and femininity is defined by love.
"Men want power," says Makow. "Women want love. Heterosexuality is
based on the exchange of female power for male love, and when men
trade power for love, they are feminized and when women demand power
instead of love they are masculinized."
Makow's explanation of heterosexuality is one of the more lucid and
original yet offered. In an age where paid mouthpieces and daily
television programs blather on endlessly about what men and women are
and aren't, Makow goes right to the most irreducible, simplified of
definitions-men represent raw power to protect and provide for a
family and women represent the nurturing qualities needed for the
human species to survive.
Drawing on historical documentation from the mouths of the New World
Order architects and circumstantial evidence abundant to all with eyes
to see, Makow paints a frightening picture of a society dying a slow,
tortuous death and going out-not with a bang, but a whimper. He cites
the changes in attitude about male-female relations as well as
marriage and children. He shows how individuals in the West-through a
deliberate yet subtle media campaign-have succumbed to a collective
narcissistic and overly-sexualized worldview to the point that they
can no longer function intellectually, making them easy prey for
powerful forces at work in remolding society.
A former teacher of English at the University of Winnipeg in Canada,
Makow encountered this agenda first-hand by allowing free and open
discussion of male/female relations in his courses. In short time,
female students majoring in "Women's Studies" protested and his
contract wasn't extended. A smear campaign in the media compared him
to a doctor who uses his position to fondle female patients. He sued
the "Winnipeg Sun" for libel and won.
'The NWO conspiracy seeks to destroy all collective forces, races,
religions, nations and families, anything that competes with the
bankers and the power-elite. In its most basic description, it is
satanic and anti-God. It seeks to reduce all people to the level
described by George Orwell and Aldous Huxley in their classic
dystopias."
Naturally, Makow has been targeted by the usual suspects since
beginning his crusade. The Canadian Jewish Congress has issued
complaints with the Canadian Human Rights Commission over his writings
on Zionism. Despite growing up in a secular Jewish home he has
rejected the ethno-centric, exclusivist teachings of Judaism and
although he does not attend a church, he basically agrees with the
teachings of Jesus.
In "Cruel Hoax" he weighs in on the present 'war on terror', saying it
is rooted in the desire to consolidate the power of the central
bankers and create a thinly veiled totalitarian world government. He
points out how the NWO architects have been trying for years to
destabilize Muslim societies with the same feminist, anti-male and
anti-family ideas that have wrought havoc on the West .
He points to the resources the NWO forces have devoted to painting
Muslim women as oppressed by their male-dominated societies: 'Look at
all the attention paid to the burkha and headscarf while failing to
show the low rates of divorce and out-of-wedlock children in the
Middle East.' he says. 'They see the success they have achieved in the
West by confusing the roles of women and men and are repeating it in
the present 'war on terror'.
Those wishing to understand the true depth of the assault on
civilization need to make "Cruel Hoax" required reading. Like special
glasses that help bring a confusing picture into focus, it is an eye
opener. "Cruel Hoax" demonstrates just how deep the conspiracy against
mankind goes and that it is not as remote and far-removed as some
people assume.
http://www.ihr.org/     http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org   http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html   
Topaz, tell us more -- specifically, tell us about Kevin Alfred Strom,
the "intellectual godfather" of the white supremacist mob. Tell us
how ol' Kev went to jail for dsitributing child pornography, for
stalking an 11-year-old girl, for Photoshopping pictures of Lynx and
Lamb, and for attacking a federal witness.
DeserTBoB
2008-02-09 01:30:40 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:26:26 -0800 (PST), "Kickin' Ass and Takin'
Post by Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
Topaz, tell us more -- specifically, tell us about Kevin Alfred Strom,
the "intellectual godfather" of the white supremacist mob. Tell us
how ol' Kev went to jail for dsitributing child pornography, for
stalking an 11-year-old girl, for Photoshopping pictures of Lynx and
Lamb, and for attacking a federal witness. <snip>
Heh! He'll just come back with some screed that your some sort of
Communist.

Time's better spent implanting a virus on his hard drive.
p***@gmail.com
2008-02-09 09:06:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by DeserTBoB
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:26:26 -0800 (PST), "Kickin' Ass and Takin'
Post by Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
Topaz, tell us more -- specifically, tell us about Kevin Alfred Strom,
the "intellectual godfather" of the white supremacist mob.  Tell us
how ol' Kev went to jail for dsitributing child pornography, for
stalking an 11-year-old girl, for Photoshopping pictures of Lynx and
Lamb, and for attacking a federal witness. <snip>
Heh!  He'll just come back with some screed that your some sort of
Communist.
Time's better spent implanting a virus on his hard drive.
No, he'g gonna come with some copy and paste article on Goebbels...
He's totally demented...
Topaz
2008-02-09 11:25:52 UTC
Permalink
Here are quotes from a speech delivered by Dr. Joseph Goebbels
at the National Socialist Party Congress, Nuernberg, 1937.

"'Spain represents the world at the cross-roads.' Thus wrote
the Bolshevic press organ, Die Rundschau, in its issue dated July 22,
1937. That one sentance precisely defines the international
significance of the Spanish problem. It states exactly what the
Spanish problem is. Here the final decision must lie either with
Bolshevism or the principle of Authority. On the one side stands
ruinous anarchy and, on the other, orderly constructive development."

"Nations which in recent years have kept their eyes closed to
the startling growth of the international Bolshevic menace will one
day experience a terrible awakening from this moral narcosis. The fact
that we, German National Socialists, as conscious and uncompromising
protaganists against the Bolshevic world-front, are still condemned to
play the part of a preacher in the wilderness, calling out to deaf
ears--this cannot prevent us from seeing things as they are and
calling them by their right names. For if the constantly increasing
extension of this Bolshevic infection in Europe should cause still
greater disaster, then future historians will be in a position to
record the fact that we, German National Socialists, were not among
those who allowed themselves to be led astray in the universal chaos
of thought and mental fog purposely created as a sort of smoke-screen
by an insidious epidemic of political propaganda. Nothing could make
us deviate in the least from the straight road we have taken.
"From the very nature of the case it is obvious that the
subversive forces of International Jewry will raise a tumult of rage
when we clearly and dispassionately lay bare the background of this
revolutionary developement which is extending through the world. For,
after all, they are the only people who are drawing profit forn the
chaotic ruin which Bolshevism is bringing upon mankind. That on this
account they will swamp us with a torrrent of abuse and lies and
calumnies is only an honour for us and a further proof that we are
right in warning Europe against this peril."

"The fight which General Franco is waging, with the support of all
the constructive elements, against the Bolshevic menace to his native
land is at the same time a fight for civilization."

"The Moscow Comintern never tires of impressing on public
opinion thoughout the world the theory that the national movement,
which on July 17, 1936, intervened in the seething developements in
Spain, was a military rising oragnised by reactionary generals and
that this rising was definately repudiated by the Spanish people. The
truth however is that this national movement was in reality an act of
self-defence on the part of the people, against the revolt which had
been planned by the Spanish Communist Party for that time and was
subsequently postponed to August 1936. This communist revolt had been
planned in Moscow several years previously, organized from Moscow and
directed from Moscow, and is still being carried out in practice from
Moscow today."

"In 1935 the annual funds which Moscow contributed for the
support of the Communist Party in Spain totalled several million
pesetas, of which two millions were officially acknowledged as having
been paid by the Comintern itself. At the 7th World Congress of the
Comintern in Moscow, in 1935, Dimitroff gave instructions for the
formation of a Front Populaire in Spain. Between February 16 and April
19,1936, 140 people were murdered by gangs of red revolutionaries, and
529 buildings were burned down and destroyed before the Bolshevic
Revolution officially broke out."

"We can account for this baffling style of mutual admiration
between Bolshevism and Western Liberalist Intellectualism only if we
assume it to be some form of mental disease."

"During February and March 101 Russian Soviet aeroplanes were shipped
from Reval to Spain. And on March 1st, 50 heavy guns from Soviet
Russia were brought overland to Almansa. Recently one single large
consignment of was material from Soviet Russia to the Reds in Spain
included 100 heavy tanks, 500 medium-sized tanks, 2000 light tanks,
4000 heavy machine guns, 6000 light machine guns and 300 aeroplanes,
with their pilots."

"I shall now deal with some instances which will help to give an
idea of the extent to which World Liberalism goes in its moral support
of the Reds in Spain. I have already emphasized the fact that the
marriage between Bolshevism and Democracy presents some uncanny
features; indeed one might call them downright perverse. In the
historical developement of its activities Democracy has more and more
become the political facade of World Capitalism. Bolshevism now
carries the democratic principle to its ultimate logical application.
We may call it the Democracy of Terror. It increases the pace of that
sanguinary and pitiless developement of which Liberalism had already
mapped out the path. I might illustrate this point by a rather drastic
comparison. In democracy leading heads were out-voted by the counting
of heads. In Bolshevism the same result is obtained by chopping off
heads with the guillotine. The result in both cases is the same. The
heads are wanting. The masses are robbed of their natural leaders and
left prey to international Jews, who are now free to exercise their
dictatorship by the employment of terrorization and money."

"Pleasing catchwords were used to win the favour of the
workers but when the communist leaders came into power social terror
became the rule of the day. Among the workers and peasant classes
hunger prevailed, as symbol and sign of the Bolshevic rule."

"In keeping with the Soviet Russian pettern, family life and
the instituton of marriage are being ruined by this world plague.
Degradation of married women, the socialization of women, the
martyrdom of children--these are the principles which are in vogue
here."

"According to the 'Daily Mail' of August 22, 1936, Twenty-eight
nuns from the convent of Santa Clara "were subjected to inconceivable
tortures by relays of red maniacs."

"But Bolshevism in practice is nothing better than the most
frightful find of barbarism. It is the outward expression of the
hatred of the underworld agianst all those who are representative of
Western civilization and a cultural level to which Bolshevism can
never hope to attain."

"Among the 20,000 churches and monasteries which the Reds have
plundered and destroyed many were of historical and architectual
significance which cannot be replaced."

"But the churches of the world remain passive to it all and do not
seem to have the least suspicion as to the deadly menace that
threatens them. This is where Bolshevism shows itself again as the
incarnation of evil. Its destructive influence on the popular
religious instinct goes to the very roots of that instinct itself. And
this ruthless atheistic campaign spares nothing whatsoever which might
serve to remind the people of God and religion. The one fact alone
that the Fuerer has saved the German churches from this fate should be
enough to make them feel bound to remain eternally thankful to him.
But instead of this they never tire of going beyond the sphere of
their religious duties, interfering in political matters and making
their influence felt in a way that has no connection whatsoever with
their duties or their divine calling."

"According to indisputable figures based exclusively on
Bolshevic statistics, 42,000 priests have been murdered in Russia. Up
to February 2,1937, approximately 17,000 priests and monks and eleven
bishops were murdered in Spain."

"A Swedish refugee stated, on November 10, 1936: 'I have seen
churches on the walls of which the murdered bodies of women were hung,
nuns that had been beheaded or burned and whose bodies had been nailed
in rows to the church walls."

"The Strassburg paper, 'Der Elsasser', in its issue of
February 27, 1937 published the staggering fact that '50,000 Spanish
children are at the present moment wandering through Spanish
provinces, abandoned and in rags. All public activities for the
welfare of the youth have been abolished. And so the youngsters, very
often no more than four or five years old, are left no alternative.
They stagger along the road in swarms, shivering with cold and are
nothing more than wandering skeletons.'"

"One shudders to think what might happen to humanity if this
system became universal throughout the world."

"Bolshevism and its 'friendly press' throughout the world lose no
opportunity of pointing an accusing finger at the alleged use of
terror in countries which are governed according to the principles of
authority. The whole world gives a cry of agonizing sympathy when, for
example, a Jew in Germany receives a well-earned box on the ears. But
what is this when compared with the terror that disrupts whole
nations"

"Lenin himself, when asked at the 12th Congress of the Red Party,
what were the principles on which Communism relied, answered: 'Murder,
destruction, not a stone to be left in place if its removal should be
to the advantage of the Revolution.'"

"The Jewish Soviet Ambassador in London finds it convenient to
express his moral indignation before the Non-Intervention Committee in
London. The world and the League of Nations are hypocritically
appealed to. Before these tribunals the Jew Litwinow-Finkelstein plays
the part of the civilised philistine and fills Europe with cries of
protest."

"The Intenational Brigades which are sent into action on the Red
Spanish front are commanded by Soviet officers. Their commander was
the Jew, General Kleber."

"We shall not be deterred from pointing to the Jew as the inspirer,
the instigator and the beneficiary of the dreadful catastrophe."

"At Barcelona he sits, in the person of Wladimer Bischitzki as
director of the international oragnization for the smuggling of arms
and munitions, comrades Lurje and Fuchs, of his own racial breed,
sitting by his side. His Paris agents are his racial compatriots,
Fratkin, Rosenfeld and Schapiro. At Hirtenberg in Austria their
collaborator is the Jew, Mandl. In Amsterdam the Jew, Wolf. In
Rotteerdam the Jews, Cohen, Gruenfeld, Kirsch, and Simon. In Denmark
the Jew, Moses Israel Diamant. In Prague the Jews, Kindler, Kahn,
Abter and Hithner. We know them all and we know them well."

"The fact that Western Liberalism closes its eyes to this evil
portent is only a sign of its almost childish naivety."

"A struggle for native land and liberty, for honour and family
and God and religion, for wife and child, for school and upbringing,
for order, moral principle, culture and civilization, for our lives
and our daily bread , has begun. In Germany it has already been
brought to a triumphant issue."




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Fuck off, nazi piece of shit.
Get help.
Now.
Topaz
2008-02-09 11:24:56 UTC
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Article Winston Churchill wrote in 1920:
"This movement amongst the Jews (the Russian Revolution) is not new.
From the days of Spartacus Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down
to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kuhn (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany)
and Emma Goldman (United States), this world wide conspiracy for the
overthrow of civilization and the reconstruction of society on the
basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible
equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer,
Mrs. Nesta Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part
in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at
last this band of extraordinary personalities has gripped the Russian
people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the
undisputed masters of that enormous empire. There is no need to
exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the
actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international
and for the most part atheistic Jews. Moreover, the principal
inspiration and driving power comes from Jewish leaders." (ibid)

Lev Trotzky wrote a book called "Stalin: An Appraisal of the Man and
His Influence", Harper Bros., New York and London, 1941, translated by
Charles Malamuth.
In this book he told who the principle members of the October Central
Committee were. This group was the leadership of the Bolshevik Party
during the October Revolution. This is what he wrote:
"In view of the Party's semi-legality the names of persons elected by
secret ballot were not announced at the Congress, with the exception
of the four who had received the largest number of votes. Lenin--133
out of a possible 134, Zinoviev--132, Kamenev--131, Trotzky--131."

Of these four top leaders of the Bolshevik Party the last three were
known Jews. Lenin was thought to be a gentile married to a Jewess. It
was later proven that he was one quarter Jewish, London Jewish
Chronicle April 21, 1995, Lenin: Life and Legacy.

David Francis, the American Ambassador to Russia at the time of the
Revolution, wrote:
"The Bolshevic leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of
whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country
but are internationalists and they are trying to start a world-wide
revolution."

The Director of British Intelligence to the U.S. Secretary of State
wrote this:
"There is now definite evidence that Bolshevism is an international
movement controlled by Jews."

In 1945 the FBI arrested six individuals for stealing 1700 highly
confidential documents from State Department files. This was the
Amerasia case they were:
Philip Jaffe, a Russian Jew who came to the U.S. in 1905. He was at
one time the editor of the communist paper "Labor Defense" and the
ringleader of the group arrested.
Andrew Roth, a Jew.
Mark Gayn, a Jew, changed his name from Julius Ginsberg.
John Service, a gentile.
Emmanuel Larsen, nationality unknown
Kate Mitchel, nationality unknown.

In 1949 the Jewess Judith Coplin was caught passing classified
documents from Justice Department files to a Russian agent.

The highest ranking communist brought to trial in the U.S. was Gerhart
Eisler. He was a Jew. He was the secret boss of the Communist Party
in the U.S. and commuted regularly between the U.S. and Russia.

In 1950 there was the "Hollywood Ten" case. Ten leading film writers
of the Hollywood Film Colony were convicted for contempt of Congress
and sentenced to prison. Nine of the ten were Jews. Six of the ten
were communist party members and the other four were flagrantly
pro-communist.

One of the top new stories of 1949 was the trial of Eugene Dennis and
the Convicted Eleven. This group comprised the National Secretariat of
the American Communist Party. Six were Jews, two gentiles, three
nationality unknown.

Also in 1949 the German-born atomic scientist Klaus Fuchs was
convicted for passing atomic secrets to the Russians. Acting on
information obtained from Fuchs the FBI arrested nine other members of
the ring. All of them were convicted. Eight of the nine were Jews.
Here are some quotes from a very pro-Jewish book that was first
published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.

"But save for such exceptions, the Jews who led or participated in the
heroic efforts to remold the world of the last century, were neither
Reform or Orthodox. Indeed, they were often not professing Jews at
all.
"For instance, there was Heinrich Heine and Ludwig Borne, both
unfaltering champions of freedom. And even more conspicuously, there
was Karl Marx, one of the great prophetic geniuses of modern times.

"Jewish historians rarely mention the name of this man, Karl Marx,
though in his life and spirit he was far truer to the mission of
Israel than most of those who were forever talking of it. He was born
in Germany in 1818, and belonged to an old rabbinic family. He was not
himself reared as a Jew, however, but while still a child was baptized
a Christian by his father. Yet the rebel soul of the Jew flamed in him
throughout his days, for he was always a 'troubler' in Europe."
"Then, of course, there are Ludwig Borne and Heinrich Heine, two men
who by their merciless wit and sarcasm became leaders among the
revolutionary writers. Karl Marx, Ferdinand Lassalle, Johann Jacoby,
Gabriel Riesser, Adolphe Cremieux, Signora Nathan- all these of Jewish
lineage played important roles in the struggle that went throughout
Europe in this period. Wherever the war for human liberty was being
waged, whether in France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, or Italy, there
the Jew was to be found. It was little wonder that the enemies of
social progress, the monarchists and the Churchmen, came to speak of
the whole liberal movement as nothing but a Jewish plot."

The book "Soviet Russia and the Jews" by Gregor Aronson and published
by the American Jewish League Against Communism, quotes Stalin in an
interview in 1931 with the Jewish Telegraph Agency. Stalin said:
"...Communists cannot be anything but outspoken enemies of
Anti-Semitism. We fight anti-Semites by the strongest methods in the
Soviet Union. Active anti-Semites are punished by death under the
law."

The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from
the
U.S. Archives:
State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominent in local Soviet
government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."

State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."

From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning, guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type" type."

A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
were 384 'commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
Imperial Government.

The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."

"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920

"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)

Interestingly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:
"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:
"Making an effort to overcome my natural reluctance, I tried to read
articles of this nature published in the Marxist Press; but in doing
so my aversion increased all the more. And then I set about learning
something of the people who wrote and published this mischievous
stuff. From the publisher downwards, all of them were Jews. I
recalled to mind the names of the public leaders of Marxism, and then
I realized that most of them belonged to the Chosen Race- the Social
Democratic representatives in the Imperial Cabinet as well as the
secretaries if the Trades Unions and the street agitators. Everywhere
the same sinister picture presented itself. I shall never forget the
row of names- Austerlitz, David, Adler, Ellonbogen, and others. One
fact became quite evident to me. It was that this alien race held in
its hands the leadership of that Social Democratic Party with whose
minor representatives I had been disputing for months past."

Solzhenitsyn named in his book the six top administrators of the
Soviet death camps. All six of them were Jews.

Here is something the National Socialists wrote:
"The Soviet Union was in fact a paradise for one group: the Jews. Even
at times when for foreign policy reasons Jews were less evident in the
government, or when they ruled through straw men, the Jews were always
visible in the middle and lower levels of the administration."


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On 9 Feb., 12:24, Topaz <***@hotmail.com> wrote:


Fuck off, nazi piece of shit.
Get help.
Now.
Topaz
2008-02-09 11:23:54 UTC
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:26:26 -0800 (PST), "Kickin' Ass and Takin'
Post by Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
Topaz, tell us more -- specifically, tell us about Kevin Alfred Strom,
the "intellectual godfather" of the white supremacist mob. Tell us
how ol' Kev went to jail for dsitributing child pornography, for
stalking an 11-year-old girl, for Photoshopping pictures of Lynx and
Lamb, and for attacking a federal witness.
You are misinformed. The Jews control your media.

There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
Hollywood.

Here are some quotes from a magazine for Jews called "Moment".
It is subtitled "The Jewish magazine for the 90's" These quotes are
from the Aug 1996 edition after the Headline "Jews Run Hollywood - So
What?":

"It makes no sense at all to try to deny the reality of Jewish
power and prominence in popular culture. Any list of the most
influential production executives at each of the major movie studios
will produce a heavy majority of recognizably Jewish names."

"the famous Disney organization, which was founded by Walt
Disney, a gentile Midwesterner who allegedly harbored anti-Semetic
attitudes, now features Jewish personnel in nearly all its most
powerful positions."

The head of Walt Disney studios is now the Jew Michael Eisner.
On studios that were bought out by the Japanese the magazine says:

"When Mitsushita took over MCA-Universal, they did nothing to
undermine the unquestioned authority of Universal's legendary - and
all Jewish - management triad of Lew Wasserman, Sid Scheinberg, and
Tom Pollack."

Here are some quotes from the paper "Jews Control the Media
and Rule America"
It may be rather out of date but it still explains why things are the
way they are.

"American Broadcasting Companies (ABC), Columbia Broadcasting
System (CBS), and National Broadcasting Company (NBC). Each of these
three has been under the absolute control of a single man over a long
enough period of time--ranging from 32 to 55 years--for him to staff
the corporation at every level with officers of his choosing and then
to place his imprint indelibly upon it. In each case that man has been
a Jew.
"Until 1985, when ABC merged with Capital Cities
Communications, Inc...the chairman of the board of directors and chief
executive officer (CEO) of the network was Leonard Harry Goldenson, a
Jew...In an interview in the April 1, 1985 issue of Newsweek,
Goldenson boasted 'I built this company (ABC) from scratch.'"

"CBS was under the domination of William S. Paley for more than
half a century. The son of immigrant Jews from Russia..."

"There has been no move by top G-E management to change the
Jewish "profile" of NBC or to replace key Jewish personnel. To the
contrary, new Jewish executives have been added: an example is Steve
Friedman..."

"The man in charge of the television entertainment division at
CBS is Jeff Sagansky. At ABC the entertainment division is run by two
men....nearly all of the men who shape young Amercians' concept of
reality, of good and evil, of permissible and impermissible behavior
are Jews. In particular, Sagansky and Bloomberg are Jews. So is
Tartikoff. Littlefield is the only Gentile who has had a significant
role in TV entertainment programming in recent years."

"American Film magazine listed the top 10...entertainment
companies and their CEOs...Time Warner Communications (Steven J Ross,
Jew) Walt Disney Co. (Michael D. Eisner, Jew)...Of the 10 top
entertainment CEOs listed above, eight are Jews."

"The Newhouse media empire provides an example of more than a
lack of real competition among America's daily newspapers; it also
illustrates the insatiable appetite Jews have shown for all organs of
opinion... The Newhouse's own 31 daily newspapers, including several
large and important ones, such as the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the
Newark Star-Ledger, and the New Orleans Times-Picayune; the nation's
largest trade book publishing conglomerate, Random House, with all
its subsidiaries; Newhouse Broadcasting, consisting of 12 television
broadcasting stations and 87 cable-TV systems, including some of the
countries largest cable networks- the Sunday supplement Parade, with a
circulation of more than 22 million copies per week; some two dozen
major magazines, including the New Yorker, Vogue, Mademoiselle,
Glamour, Vanity Fair, HQ, Bride's, Gentlemen's Quarterly, Self,
Home&Garden...."

"Furthermore, even those newspapers still under Gentile ownership
and management are so thoroughly dependent upon Jewish advertising..."

"the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington
Post. These three...are the newspapers which set trends and guidelines
for nearly all others. They are the ones which decide what is news and
what isn't, at national and international levels. They originate the
news; the others merely copy it. And all three newspapers are in
Jewish hands...The Sulzberger family also owns, through the New York
Times Co. 36 other newspapers; twelve magazines, including McCall's
and Family Circle..."

"New York's other newspapers are in no better hands than the
Daily News. The New York Post is owned by billionaire Jewish
real-estate developer Peter Kalikow. The Village Voice is the personal
property of Leonard Stern, the billionaire Jewish owner of..."

"There are only three newsmagazines of any note published in the
United States: Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News & World Report....The CEO
of Time Warner Communications is Steven J. Ross, and he is a Jew.
"Newsweek, as mentioned above, is published by the Washington
Post Co., under the Jewess Katherine Meyer Graham..."
"U.S. News & World Report... owned and published by Jewish real
estate developer Mortimer B. Zuckerman..."

" The three largest book publishers...Random House... Simon &
Schuster , and Time Inc. Book Co....All three are owned or controlled
by Jews...The CEO of Simon & Schuster if Richard Snyder, and the
president is Jeremy Kaplan; both are Jews too."

"Western Publishing...ranks first among publishers of children's
books, with more than 50 per cent of the market. Its chairman and CEO
is Richard Bernstein, a Jew."

"Jewish spokesmen customarily will use evasive tactics. "Ted
Turner isn't a Jew!" they will announce..."

"We are doing more than merely giving them a decisive influence
on our political system and virtual control of our government; we also
are giving them control of the minds and souls of our children..."



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On 9 Feb., 12:23, Topaz <***@hotmail.com> wrote:


Fuck off, nazi piece of shit.
Get help.
Now.
Michael Ejercito
2008-02-09 17:40:07 UTC
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Post by DeserTBoB
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:26:26 -0800 (PST), "Kickin' Ass and Takin'
Post by Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
Topaz, tell us more -- specifically, tell us about Kevin Alfred Strom,
the "intellectual godfather" of the white supremacist mob. Tell us
how ol' Kev went to jail for dsitributing child pornography, for
stalking an 11-year-old girl, for Photoshopping pictures of Lynx and
Lamb, and for attacking a federal witness.
You are misinformed. The Jews control your media.
So "Kevin Alfred Strom" is just a fictional character invented by a
bunch of Jews?


Michael
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2008-02-09 09:04:43 UTC
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On 9 Feb., 00:52, Topaz <***@hotmail.com> wrote:

Fuck off, nazi piece of shit.
Get help.
Captain America
2008-02-09 01:45:04 UTC
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Post by P***@yahoo.com
ARE YOU ENJOYING THIS AS MUCH AS I AM?
Nah, legitimate news organizations make corrections, and suspend
reporters all the time. If Fox News did the honorable thing as much as
MSNBC, there wouldn't be anyone on the air.
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