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AlleyCat
2024-11-10 15:44:30 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 14:37:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...
Donald Trump Faces Travel Ban To 37 Countries
his newfound felon status
STILL not a felon, dumb ass.

STILL not adjudicated, STILL not convicted.

Trump's two federal trials are also ON ICE. The judge in Florida overseeing the case in which federal prosecutors allege he mishandled
classified documents and tried to hide them from the National Archives HAS PROCEEDED VERY SLOWLY AND HAS ALLOWED PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS TO
PILE UP. The trial is CURRENTLY POSTPONED INDEFINITELY. In the federal election subversion case in Washington, DC, the Supreme Court has
yet to weigh in on whether Trump should enjoy immunity from prosecution as a former president.

Argentina
Australia
Brazil
Cambodia
Canada
Chile
China
Cuba
Dominican Republic
Egypt
Ethiopia
Hong Kong
India
Indonesia
Iran
Ireland
Israel
Japan
Kenya
Macau
Malaysia
Mexico
Morocco
Nepal
New Zealand
Peru
Philippines
Singapore
South Africa
South Korea
Taiwan
Tanzania
Tunisia
Turkey
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom

Wait Till They Need Our Money

LOL... they'll change their tune.

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Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year after losing his first reelection bid to President Joe Biden back in 2020.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

Second Trump Administration
Alan
2024-11-10 16:25:05 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 14:37:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...
Donald Trump Faces Travel Ban To 37 Countries
his newfound felon status
STILL not a felon, dumb ass.
STILL not adjudicated, STILL not convicted.
Absolutely a convicted felon.
Post by AlleyCat
Trump's two federal trials are also ON ICE. The judge in Florida
overseeing the case in which federal prosecutors allege he
mishandled classified documents and tried to hide them from the
National Archives HAS PROCEEDED VERY SLOWLY AND HAS ALLOWED
PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS TO PILE UP. The trial is CURRENTLY POSTPONED
INDEFINITELY. In the federal election subversion case in Washington,
DC, the Supreme Court has yet to weigh in on whether Trump should
enjoy immunity from prosecution as a former president.
Also false.
AlleyCat
2024-11-10 16:49:04 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 08:25:05 -0800, Alan says...

Trump's two federal trials are also ON ICE. The judge in Florida overseeing the case in which federal prosecutors allege he mishandled
classified documents and tried to hide them from the National Archives HAS PROCEEDED VERY SLOWLY AND HAS ALLOWED PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS TO
PILE UP. The trial is CURRENTLY POSTPONED INDEFINITELY. In the federal election subversion case in Washington, DC, the Supreme Court has
yet to weigh in on whether Trump should enjoy immunity from prosecution as a former president.
Post by Alan
Also false.
Really?

Tell that to CNN, who wrote it.

Loading Image...

Idiot.

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

[snicker]
Alan
2024-11-10 17:02:47 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 08:25:05 -0800, Alan says...
Trump's two federal trials are also ON ICE. The judge in Florida
overseeing the case in which federal prosecutors allege he
mishandled classified documents and tried to hide them from the
National Archives HAS PROCEEDED VERY SLOWLY AND HAS ALLOWED
PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS TO PILE UP. The trial is CURRENTLY POSTPONED
INDEFINITELY. In the federal election subversion case in Washington,
DC, the Supreme Court has yet to weigh in on whether Trump should
enjoy immunity from prosecution as a former president.
Post by Alan
Also false.
Really?
Really.
Post by AlleyCat
Tell that to CNN, who wrote it.
CNN can get it wrong.

The USSC HAS weighed in.
AlleyCat
2024-11-10 17:37:11 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 09:02:47 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Tell that to CNN, who wrote it.
CNN can get it wrong.
Yes.
Post by Alan
The USSC HAS weighed in.
Not the point CNN, NOR I, were making. The point wasn't what the USSC did.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Donald Trump Faces Travel Ban To 37 Countries
his newfound felon status
STILL not a felon, dumb ass.
STILL not adjudicated, STILL not convicted.
Trump's two federal trials are also ON ICE. The judge in Florida overseeing the case in which federal prosecutors allege he mishandled
classified documents and tried to hide them from the National Archives HAS PROCEEDED VERY SLOWLY AND HAS ALLOWED PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS TO
PILE UP. The trial is CURRENTLY POSTPONED INDEFINITELY.

AND he's still to be adjudicated on the jury's decisions against him.

Please at least TRY to refute and keep up and refute and keep up. Then, try and refute, or PLONK!

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration (LOL)

===========================================================================================================================

Why Do People With Narcissistic Personality Disorder Play Games?

At times, it may appear that the goal of someone living with NPD is to get their needs met, which may involve other people who consciously
and unconsciously help them achieve that end, says Dena DiNardo, PhD, a clinical psychologist in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

"These 'games' are strategic manipulations," she adds. "Often, they're completely unconscious. People having trouble with this level of
narcissism are usually in such deep pain that their ability to empathetically connect with the pain of others is low."

What games do people with narcissistic personality disorder play?

Those who live with NPD often HAVE LOW SELF-ESTEEM.

As a result, many games they play may revolve around maintaining a sense of control, so they don't have to be confronted with the shame
that they may feel inside.

This is why Ski Bunny can't post his own shit.

"People with narcissistic personality disorder tend to use strategies to gain power and control over the individual in order to assert
superiority and/or dominance over them," says Rahmah Albugami, a licensed professional counselor in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. "In this way,
they get their needs met TO BOOST THEIR EGOS, VALUE, AND SELF-ESTEEM."

Poor Ski Bunny. :-(

Some common games someone with narcissistic personality disorder might engage in include:

blame shifting
deception
gaslighting
ghosting
playing the victim
projection

While these games may be common for someone with NPD, not everyone who plays them will have this condition or another personality disorder.

How can you recognize when games are being played?

Becoming more familiar with these games may help you spot them in action and set appropriate personal boundaries.

Gaslighting:

Gaslighting refers to denying the truth of a situation as you saw or heard it, which can confuse your sense of reality. They may be trying
to avoid getting caught for something by turning it back around on you.

"One of the most common things to look out for are if you're constantly questioning yourself," says Albugami.

Revenge:

Having a fragile sense of self is not uncommon for someone with NPD.

If you call them out on their behaviors, it may create a narcissistic rage or injury. Rather than sit with the difficult emotion and self-
reflect, they may instead externalize the agony they feel in the form of revenge.
Alan
2024-11-10 18:15:45 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 09:02:47 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Tell that to CNN, who wrote it.
CNN can get it wrong.
Yes.
Post by Alan
The USSC HAS weighed in.
Not the point CNN, NOR I, were making. The point wasn't what the USSC did.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Donald Trump Faces Travel Ban To 37 Countries
his newfound felon status
STILL not a felon, dumb ass.
STILL not adjudicated, STILL not convicted.
Trump's two federal trials are also ON ICE. The judge in Florida overseeing the case in which federal prosecutors allege he mishandled
classified documents and tried to hide them from the National Archives HAS PROCEEDED VERY SLOWLY AND HAS ALLOWED PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS TO
PILE UP. The trial is CURRENTLY POSTPONED INDEFINITELY.
AND he's still to be adjudicated on the jury's decisions against him.
What are you pretending that means.

The jury found him GUILTY.

That is what being convicted IS.
AlleyCat
2024-11-10 20:17:49 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:15:45 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
AND he's still to be adjudicated on the jury's decisions against him.
What are you pretending that means.
Not "pretending" anything.

"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still has the
power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of acquittal."

The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".

Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt.

See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.

Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT a convicted felon. Doesn't REALLY
matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE
HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN NEW YORK, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

=============================================================================

Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-
verdict-conviction-rcna154801

May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money
conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.

=====

Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-
matters/index.html

May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald
Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business records, the next obvious
question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?

The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential
candidates. They must:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY -

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/donald-
trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/

May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president convicted of a
crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN.
His conviction on Thursday does not bar him from ...

=====

Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-
happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-cohen-
daniels/73920427007/

May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S.
Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after they become a
felon. The only qualifications are the following:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-
charges-voters-indictment

Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's
nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with criminal records from
holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...

=====

What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME

https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/

May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will
not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential campaign, even if he were
jailed.

=====

Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-
constitution-conviction

Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT.
WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be convicted of
felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...

COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?

YES.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM
HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.

=================================================================================

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

=====

Donald Trump will never be elected president of the United States - Harry Reid

He will never be President of the United States. - Elizabeth Warren (Pocahontas)

I have one thing to say... one thing only... and that is that this race is O V E R. Tomorrow morning the money will dry up, the Republicans
will start to hide. Trump has no place to go... this race effectively, as of tonight, is no longer a presidential race. I will guaruntee, I
mean, everything I know about presidential politics, and I've been through five of them, I've never seen one like this. This race
is over, you might as well accept it, and the question now is how do you minimize damage? And the only
way you can do that, it seems to me, is to try and grab hold some old conservative value things and do what Mondale did in '84, which is
try and save a few people down the ballot. But as far as Donald Trump is concerned, it will never ever ever ever happen. - Bob Beckel

Do you think Donald Trumpkin win the nomination?

I think you can I think he possibly could win the nomination he cannot be President. He will never be elected president. - Mike Barnicle

Now, Donald Trump is not going to become president of the United States. Donald Trump will not be called President. - Bernie Sanders

What will you do if he becomes president? Is it time to leave the country?

He will never be president. - Rosie O'Donnell

What would you do if he did?

He will never be President. - Rosie O'Donnell

Donald Trump is not going to be President of the United States. He's not going to be President of the United States. He is not, Donald
Trump is not going to be President of the United States take it to the bank. I will guaruntee it. - Nancy (crazy eyes) Pelosi

Donald Trump is not going to be present in the United States. - Maria cardona

Let's be clear, Donald Trump will lose the election - Fareed Zakaria

I think Donald Trump be the nominee & will lose bad - Barney Fwank

I think that Donald Trump's campaign is over. There's nowhere for him to go when the inevitable happens, which is a very substantial
landslide victory on November eighth. - Mark Preston

The Presidential race is effectively over. Hillary Rodham Clinton will be the 45th president the United States. Chuck Schumer will be the
majority leader of the United States Senate. - Steve Schmidt


I personally think this race IS over. - Joan Walsh

To me this race is over. - Unknown liberal pundit

Politico's latest survey of political insiders agrees, quote "Clinton will crush Trump in November - Rachel Madcow

There's not going to be a President Donald Trump. That's not gonna happen. - George Looney

I think that man will be President of the United States right about the time that spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs and red capes.
Take it from me. How about that. - Tom Hanks

Donald Trump, just last week, he confirmed to the National Review that he is again considering a run in 2016. - Abby, MSNBC bobblehead

Do it. Do it. Look, look at me. Do it. I will personally write you a campaign check now on behalf of this country which does not want you
to be President, but which badly want you to run. - John Oliver

And we better be ready for the fact that he might be leading Republican ticket. - Keith Ellison

Next. I know you don't believe that. - George Stephanopoulos

Which Republican candidate has the best chance of winning the general election? - Bill Maher

Of the declared ones? Right now... Donald Trump. - Ann Coulter

Shock and disbelief in her eyes... Joy Reid

And so, right now, Mr. Trump... to answer your call for political honesty, I just want to say your not going to be President... all right?
All, let's say cow poo poo aside, there is zero chance we'll
be seeing you being sworn in on the Capitol steps with your hand on a giant golden Bible. - Stephen Colbert

Make a prediction note for you, and I don't really get into predictions much, but this one I'll go way out on a limb... Donald Trump will
never ever be President of the United States. - Ron Reagan





Alan
2024-11-10 20:26:42 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:15:45 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
AND he's still to be adjudicated on the jury's decisions against him.
What are you pretending that means.
Not "pretending" anything.
"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt
against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still
has the power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of
acquittal."
Except he didn't DO that.
AlleyCat
2024-11-11 06:10:03 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:26:42 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:15:45 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
AND he's still to be adjudicated on the jury's decisions against him.
What are you pretending that means.
Not "pretending" anything.
"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt
against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still
has the power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of
acquittal."
Except he didn't DO that.
ANNNNNND hasn't "entered a judgment of guilt", either.

=====

On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 11:05:00 -0700, Alan says...
"You snipped it."

From: Alan <nuh-***@nope.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2024 23:21:07 -0700
"...but you had to snip them all in your replay(sic)."

"Says the idiot that snips what he can't refute." - AC

From: Alan <nuh-***@nope.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 18:06:13 -0700
"...which is why you just snipped:"

Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 14:00:27 -0700
"Why do you think snipping text is such a flex?"
**Why do YOU?**

From: Alan <nuh-***@nope.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 18:53:36 -0700
"So why did you snip all this?"

On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 18:53:36 -0700, Alan says...
"So why did you snip all this?"

On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 19:28:14 -0700, Alan says...
Why can't you stop fucking lying to save face?

"What makes you think you can snip text to make your lies seem true?"

Name one lie.

<crickets.wav>

Don't ask accusatory questions about shit YOU do, hypofagcrit.

=====

Care to take a crack at any of the rest you deleted, hypocrite?

"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still has the
power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of acquittal."

The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".

Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt.

See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.

Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT a convicted felon. Doesn't REALLY
matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE
HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN NEW YORK, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

=============================================================================

Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-
verdict-conviction-rcna154801

May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money
conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.

=====

Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-
matters/index.html

May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald
Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business records, the next obvious
question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?

The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential
candidates. They must:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY -

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/donald-
trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/

May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president convicted of a
crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN.
His conviction on Thursday does not bar him from ...

=====

Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-
happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-cohen-
daniels/73920427007/

May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S.
Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after they become a
felon. The only qualifications are the following:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-
charges-voters-indictment

Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's
nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with criminal records from
holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...

=====

What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME

https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/

May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will
not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential campaign, even if he were
jailed.

=====

Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-
constitution-conviction

Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT.
WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be convicted of
felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...

COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?

YES.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM
HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.

=================================================================================

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

=====

Donald Trump will never be elected president of the United States - Harry Reid

He will never be President of the United States. - Elizabeth Warren (Pocahontas)

I have one thing to say... one thing only... and that is that this race is O V E R. Tomorrow morning the money will dry up, the Republicans
will start to hide. Trump has no place to go... this race effectively, as of tonight, is no longer a presidential race. I will guaruntee, I
mean, everything I know about presidential politics, and I've been through five of them, I've never seen one like this. This race
is over, you might as well accept it, and the question now is how do you minimize damage? And the only
way you can do that, it seems to me, is to try and grab hold some old conservative value things and do what Mondale did in '84, which is
try and save a few people down the ballot. But as far as Donald Trump is concerned, it will never ever ever ever happen. - Bob Beckel

Do you think Donald Trumpkin win the nomination?

I think you can I think he possibly could win the nomination he cannot be President. He will never be elected president. - Mike Barnicle

Now, Donald Trump is not going to become president of the United States. Donald Trump will not be called President. - Bernie Sanders

What will you do if he becomes president? Is it time to leave the country?

He will never be president. - Rosie O'Donnell

What would you do if he did?

He will never be President. - Rosie O'Donnell

Donald Trump is not going to be President of the United States. He's not going to be President of the United States. He is not, Donald
Trump is not going to be President of the United States take it to the bank. I will guaruntee it. - Nancy (crazy eyes) Pelosi

Donald Trump is not going to be present in the United States. - Maria cardona

Let's be clear, Donald Trump will lose the election - Fareed Zakaria

I think Donald Trump be the nominee & will lose bad - Barney Fwank

I think that Donald Trump's campaign is over. There's nowhere for him to go when the inevitable happens, which is a very substantial
landslide victory on November eighth. - Mark Preston

The Presidential race is effectively over. Hillary Rodham Clinton will be the 45th president the United States. Chuck Schumer will be the
majority leader of the United States Senate. - Steve Schmidt


I personally think this race IS over. - Joan Walsh

To me this race is over. - Unknown liberal pundit

Politico's latest survey of political insiders agrees, quote "Clinton will crush Trump in November - Rachel Madcow

There's not going to be a President Donald Trump. That's not gonna happen. - George Looney

I think that man will be President of the United States right about the time that spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs and red capes.
Take it from me. How about that. - Tom Hanks

Donald Trump, just last week, he confirmed to the National Review that he is again considering a run in 2016. - Abby, MSNBC bobblehead

Do it. Do it. Look, look at me. Do it. I will personally write you a campaign check now on behalf of this country which does not want you
to be President, but which badly want you to run. - John Oliver

And we better be ready for the fact that he might be leading Republican ticket. - Keith Ellison

Next. I know you don't believe that. - George Stephanopoulos

Which Republican candidate has the best chance of winning the general election? - Bill Maher

Of the declared ones? Right now... Donald Trump. - Ann Coulter

Shock and disbelief in her eyes... Joy Reid

And so, right now, Mr. Trump... to answer your call for political honesty, I just want to say your not going to be President... all right?
All, let's say cow poo poo aside, there is zero chance we'll
be seeing you being sworn in on the Capitol steps with your hand on a giant golden Bible. - Stephen Colbert

Make a prediction note for you, and I don't really get into predictions much, but this one I'll go way out on a limb... Donald Trump will
never ever be President of the United States. - Ron Reagan
Alan
2024-11-11 17:18:22 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:26:42 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:15:45 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
AND he's still to be adjudicated on the jury's decisions against him.
What are you pretending that means.
Not "pretending" anything.
"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt
against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still
has the power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of
acquittal."
Except he didn't DO that.
ANNNNNND hasn't "entered a judgment of guilt", either.
I've shown the NY State code, Pussey.

There is no such step.
AlleyCat
2024-11-11 18:42:47 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 09:18:22 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:26:42 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:15:45 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
AND he's still to be adjudicated on the jury's decisions against him.
What are you pretending that means.
Not "pretending" anything.
"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt
against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still
has the power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of
acquittal."
Except he didn't DO that.
ANNNNNND hasn't "entered a judgment of guilt", either.
I've shown the NY State code, Pussey.
There is no such step.
So, why isn't he IN prison?

LOL

Stilllll not a felon.

The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".

Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt.

See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.

Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT a convicted felon. Doesn't REALLY
matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE
HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN NEW YORK, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

=============================================================================

Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-
verdict-conviction-rcna154801

May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money
conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.

=====

Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-
matters/index.html

May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald
Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business records, the next obvious
question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?

The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential
candidates. They must:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY -

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/donald-
trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/

May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president convicted of a
crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN.
His conviction on Thursday does not bar him from ...

=====

Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-
happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-cohen-
daniels/73920427007/

May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S.
Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after they become a
felon. The only qualifications are the following:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-
charges-voters-indictment

Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's
nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with criminal records from
holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...

=====

What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME

https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/

May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will
not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential campaign, even if he were
jailed.

=====

Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-
constitution-conviction

Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT.
WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be convicted of
felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...

COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?

YES.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM
HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Alan
2024-11-12 03:22:42 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 09:18:22 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:26:42 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:15:45 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
AND he's still to be adjudicated on the jury's decisions against him.
What are you pretending that means.
Not "pretending" anything.
"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt
against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still
has the power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of
acquittal."
Except he didn't DO that.
ANNNNNND hasn't "entered a judgment of guilt", either.
I've shown the NY State code, Pussey.
There is no such step.
So, why isn't he IN prison?
Because sentencing hasn't taken place.

But being sentenced to prison is not an element of being convicted.
Post by AlleyCat
LOL
Stilllll not a felon.
The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".
Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt.
Rubenfeld is a partisan hack.
AlleyCat
2024-11-12 03:58:34 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:22:42 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
So, why isn't he IN prison?
Because sentencing hasn't taken place.
Soooo.... STILL not a convicted felon.

Thanks.

Gotcha.

PLONK!

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

======================================================================================================================

Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, And Sadists Trolls Will Lie, Exaggerate, And Offend TO GET A RESPONSE [so true]

Loser
AlleyPussyBitch
Pole-puffing no-fight squat-to-piss shrieking estrogen-oozing
fairy
Pussey

Of course, these never work, AS INTENDED.

=====

An Internet troll is someone who enters an online discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation.

"Dark Tetrad" personality traits include narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and sadism.

(someone's been reading my possstss againnnnn)

In a study of 1200 people, Dark Tetrad scores were highest among people who said trolling was their favorite Internet activity.

In this month's issue of Personality and Individual Differences, a study was published that confirms what we all suspected: Internet trolls
are horrible people.

Let's start by getting our definitions straight: An Internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to
upset or disrupt the conversation. Often, in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone
else involved. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.

What kind of person would do this? Some Canadian researchers decided to find out.
Study: Internet Trolls and Dark Tetrad Personality Traits

They conducted two online studies with over 1,200 people, giving personality tests to each subject along with a survey about their Internet
commenting behavior. They were looking for evidence that linked trolling with the "Dark Tetrad" of personality traits: narcissism,
Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and sadism.

They found that Dark Tetrad scores were highest among people who said trolling was their favorite Internet activity. To get an idea of how
much more prevalent these traits were among Internet trolls, one can refer to tables from the paper showing low Dark Tetrad scores for
everyone in the study ... except the trolls. Their scores for all four traits soar on the chart. The relationship between trolling and the
Dark Tetrad is so significant that the authors write in their paper:

"... the associations between sadism and GAIT (Global Assessment of Internet Trolling) scores were so strong that it might be said that
online trolls are prototypical everyday sadists." [emphasis added]

Trolls truly enjoy making you feel bad. To quote the authors once more (because this is a truly quotable article): "Both trolls and sadists
feel sadistic glee at the distress of others. Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their playground!"

The next time you encounter a troll online, remember:

These trolls are some truly difficult people.
It is your suffering that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is ignore them.
Alan
2024-11-12 04:11:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:22:42 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
So, why isn't he IN prison?
Because sentencing hasn't taken place.
Soooo.... STILL not a convicted felon.
Sentencing is not a necessary part of a conviction.
AlleyCat
2024-11-12 15:17:40 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:11:45 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:22:42 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
So, why isn't he IN prison?
Because sentencing hasn't taken place.
Soooo.... STILL not a convicted felon.
Sentencing is not a necessary part of a conviction.
It's part of the adjudication (judgment) process.

The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".

Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt OR sentencing.

THAT takes place at the time of adjudication.

Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and entered a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT a convicted felon. Doesn't REALLY
matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... EVEN IN NEW YORK:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE
HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN NEW YORK, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11(subsequently postponed), the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To Legal Experts, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=============================================================================

Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-
verdict-conviction-rcna154801

May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money
conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.

=====

Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-
matters/index.html

May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald
Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business records, the next obvious
question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?

The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential
candidates. They must:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY -

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/donald-
trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/

May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president convicted of a
crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN.
His conviction on Thursday does not bar him from ...

=====

Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-
happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-cohen-
daniels/73920427007/

May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S.
Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after they become a
felon. The only qualifications are the following:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-
charges-voters-indictment

Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's
nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with criminal records from
holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...

=====

What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME

https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/

May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will
not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential campaign, even if he were
jailed.

=====

Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-
constitution-conviction

Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT.
WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be convicted of
felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...

COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?

YES.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM
HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
AlleyCat
2024-11-13 05:17:59 UTC
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['oh.no.this.definitely.is.NOT.going.to.can.politics' psycho gratuitous bullshit crosspost removed]

[subject line vandalism by commie tip-toeing to suck boyfriend's cock, repaired]

On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 09:55:29 -0800, Rudy Canoza, forever the mental and physical midget, who was *NEVER* a three sport letterman, like me,
and who was *NEVER* a bouncer, like me, and who was *NEVER* an assistant golf pro, like me, and who was *NEVER* a lifeguard, like me, and
who *NEVER* dunked a basketball, like me, and has *NEVER* laid as many women as me, says...
The imposition of sentence
NO ONE is talking about sentencing, except your Ski Bunny lover.

The judge hasn't entered the JUDGMENT OF GUILT yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a "convicted felon".

Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT.

See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.

Has the JUDGE entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the verdict and enter a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT A CONVICTED FELON. Doesn't REALLY matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN
NEW YORK, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald
Trump's Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear
that term a lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such language
in their stories about the Trump verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in
New York, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald
Trump's Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear
that term a lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such language
in their stories about the Trump verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in
New York, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.

=============================================================================

Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-verdict-conviction-rcna154801

May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.

=====

Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-matters/index.html

May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business
records, the next obvious question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?

The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential candidates. They must:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY -

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/donald-trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/

May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president convicted of a crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT AGAIN. His conviction on Thursday does not bar him from ...

=====

Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-
cohen-daniels/73920427007/

May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S. Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after
they become a felon. The only qualifications are the following:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-charges-voters-indictment

Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with
criminal records from holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...

=====

What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME

https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/

May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential
campaign, even if he were jailed.

=====

Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-constitution-conviction

Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT. WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be
convicted of felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...

COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?

YES.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

=======================================================================================================================================

AlleyCat is one of the several people who dominate Rudy on a daily basis, keeping their bootheels on his little pencil neck to the
amusement of all.

Rudy's split personality refers to dissocitive identity disorder (DID), a
mental disorder where a person has two or more distinct personalities (nym-
shifting).

The thoughts, actions, and behaviors of each personality may not be completely
different.

Trauma often causes this condition, particularly during childhood. (Mommy
spanked him hard) While there is no defined cure for DID, long-term treatment
(posting on Usenet) may help people combine their personalities into one.

[giggle]

People with DID have two or more distinct personalities. They do not present as
simple changes in traits or moods. A person with DID may or may not express
differences between these alternate identities, which can also be referred to
as alters.

Often, these personalities are completely different from each other. These
fragmented personalities take control of the person's identity for some time.

A person also maintains their primary or host identity, which is their original
personality, and will answer to their given name. Their primary identity is
generally more passive, and they may be unaware of the other personalities.

When a personality change happens, the new personality will have a distinct
history, a new identity, and different behaviors.

These split personalities, or alters, often have their own distinct:

name (Rudy, Bill Flett, 100s of others)
age
gender
moods
memories
vocabulary (grammar Nazi fucks up too)

A new personality will see themselves differently. For instance, someone
assigned male at birth may have an alternate identity as a woman. They may
experience themselves with female biological sex characteristics.

The shift between these personalities tends to occur when a person faces a
certain stressor or trigger.
Causes

The exact cause of DID is not fully understood. However, there is a strong link
between the condition and trauma. This may be particularly true for trauma or
abuse during childhood. In Europe, the United States, and Canada, 90% of people
who experience DID are victims of severe trauma in childhood.

The condition represents someone who struggles to integrate and assimilate
certain aspects of their own identity, which become disjointed over time.
Signs and symptoms

The signs of DID may vary, but they include a change between two or more
separate personalities.

Symptoms include:

Experiencing two or more separate personalities, each with their own self-
identity and perceptions.

A notable change in a person's sense of self.

Frequent gaps in memory and personal history, which are not due to normal
forgetfulness, including loss of memories, and forgetting everyday events.

When these other personalities take over, they often talk with a different
vocabulary, and gesture differently. In some cases, one personality may also
pick up certain habits that the other does not, such as smoking, or becoming
violent.

In the shift from one personality to another, a person may experience other
symptoms. Some people can have anxiety, as they may be afraid of the
personality change. Some may become very angry or violent. Others may not
notice or remember these transitions at all, although another person may notice
them.

Specific personalities may appear in response to certain situations. These
symptoms can cause a person significant distress, and disrupt their ability to
live their life normally.

Other symptoms may include:

amnesia (forgets how to spell or speak right)
losing sense of time
going into a trance-like state
out-of-body experiences, or depersonalization
engaging in behaviors that are unusual for the person
sleep disturbances

A person with DID may also experience symptoms of other conditions, such as
self-harm. One study notes that more than 70% of people with DID have attempted
suicide.
Skeeter
2024-11-11 13:49:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:15:45 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
AND he's still to be adjudicated on the jury's decisions against him.
What are you pretending that means.
Not "pretending" anything.
"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt
against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still
has the power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of
acquittal."
Except he didn't DO that.
But he still can.
Alan
2024-11-11 17:18:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:15:45 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
AND he's still to be adjudicated on the jury's decisions against him.
What are you pretending that means.
Not "pretending" anything.
"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt
against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still
has the power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of
acquittal."
Except he didn't DO that.
But he still can.
Nope.
AlleyCat
2024-11-12 15:17:31 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 09:18:28 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt
against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still
has the power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of
acquittal."
Except he didn't DO that.
But he still can.
Nope.
So... you CLAIM is that he can't.

Prove it, hypocrite.

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Alan
2024-11-15 02:20:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 09:18:28 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt
against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still
has the power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of
acquittal."
Except he didn't DO that.
But he still can.
Nope.
So... you CLAIM is that he can't.
Prove it, hypocrite.
I provided the law, loser.
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 05:33:03 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:20:40 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 09:18:28 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt
against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still
has the power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of
acquittal."
Except he didn't DO that.
But he still can.
Nope.
So... you CLAIM is that he can't.
Prove it, hypocrite.
I provided the law, loser.
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon". Provide it again, because I'm not gonna waste my time looking for it, and we'll go over it and
look for the words that count.

Until then... Trump is STILL not a convicted felon and might not EVER be, since Judge Merchan...

... Delays Decision On Tossing Trump's Hush Money Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-trump-hush-money-case-delays-key-ruling-ahead-sentencing-rcna179763

2 days ago - In response, Merchan's clerk said the joint request for a stay had been granted and ordered prosecutors from Manhattan
District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office to state their position by 10 a.m. on ...

The judge overseeing Donald Trump's New York criminal trial delayed a key ruling Tuesday on whether the president-elect's conviction should
be set aside, according to correspondence between the parties.

Trump's team wants the case dismissed, and the prosecution says it needs time to evaluate next steps now that Trump has been elected for a
second term. The court has granted them a week's delay to provide their positions, the clerk informed them in a court filing.

In a letter to state Judge Juan Merchan, prosecutors said they agreed with Trump's request for a stay to consider how to proceed given his
new status as president-elect.

"The People agree that these are unprecedented circumstances and that the arguments raised by defense counsel in correspondence to the
People on Friday require careful consideration to ensure that any further steps in this proceeding appropriately balance the competing
interests of (1) a jury verdict of guilt following trial that has the presumption of regularity; and (2) the Office of the President,"
prosecutor Matthew Colangelo wrote in a letter to the judge.

=====

A "Verdict" Does Not Make a "Convicted Felon"

Judge Merchan Postpones Ruling On Whether To Dismiss Trump Guilty Verdict

https://www.newsweek.com/judge-merchan-postpones-ruling-whether-dismiss-trump-guilty-verdict-1984464

2 days ago - Merchan twice postponed Trump's sentencing after the Supreme Court ruled on July 1 that presidents have broad immunity from
prosecution over their official acts. The decision also restricted prosecutors from using those actions to bolster a case centered on
personal conduct.

=====

Judge Delays Decision On Tossing Trump's Hush Money Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-trump-hush-money-case-delays-key-ruling-ahead-sentencing-rcna179763

2 days ago - In response, Merchan's clerk said the joint request for a stay had been granted and ordered prosecutors from Manhattan
District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office to state their position by 10 a.m. on ...

=====

What Judge Merchan Agreeing To More Delay In Trump's Hush ... - MSNBC

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/merchan-delay-trump-hush-money-case-new-york-rcna179771

2 days ago - Merchan delayed the sentencing until September and then to Nov. 26 because of the election, setting Tuesday as the date on
which he would decide whether to overturn the verdicts or dismiss the case.

=====

Judge Delays Ruling On Donald Trump's Criminal Conviction And Sentencing

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-delays-ruling-donald-trump-151404084.html

2 days ago - A New York judge has delayed ruling on whether Donald Trump's hush money conviction should be overturned in light of the
Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity. Judge Juan Merchan ...

=====

Trump Sentencing In Limbo As Merchan Weighs Hush Money Case - NBC New York

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/new-york-city/donald-trump-news-sentencing-hush-money-merchan-toss-case-presidential-immunity/5976557/

2 days ago - New York Judge Juan M. Merchan, who presided over Trump's historic trial, had been scheduled to decide whether to toss out the
jury verdict and order a new trial - or even dismiss the charges altogether. The judge's ruling was also expected to speak to whether the
former and now future commander-in-chief will be sentenced as scheduled Nov. 26.

=====

Where Does Trump's Hush-Money Sentencing Go From Here?

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/where-does-trumps-hush-money-sentencing-go-from-here.html

2 days ago - Judge Juan Merchan had been expected to issue a ruling on whether the Supreme Court's decision regarding presidential immunity
has any impact on Trump's upcoming sentencing in his hush-money ...

=====

Judge To Decide Whether Trump's Hush Money Conviction Can Stand

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/judge-decide-whether-trumps-hush-money-conviction-can-stand-2024-11-10/

4 days ago - Even if Merchan allows the conviction to stand, experts expect Trump's lawyers to ask the judge to delay the sentencing. Trump
faces a sentence of up to four years in prison after being convicted ...

=====

Judge Delays Decision On Whether To Dismiss Trump's Felony Convictions

https://san.com/cc/judge-delays-decision-on-whether-to-dismiss-trumps-felony-convictions/

2 days ago - Manhattan Judge Juan Merchan agreed to delay his decision on Tuesday, Nov. 12, on whether to dismiss President-elect Donald
Trump's New York hush money convictions until Tuesday, Nov. 19. The delay is to give prosecutors and Trump's lawyers more time for new
arguments following the results of the 2024 presidential election earlier this month.

=====

Judge Juan Merchan Delays Trump Hush-Money Conviction Ruling | National ...

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/judge-delays-ruling-on-whether-to-toss-trump-hush-money-conviction-given-presidential-immunity/

2 days ago - Merchan said he would delay his decision until next Tuesday, November 19. The judge granted the prosecution's request to delay
the hearing. Trump was due to be sentenced on November 26.

=========================================================================================================================================

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Alan
2024-11-15 17:34:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:20:40 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 09:18:28 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment
of guilt against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld,
"And the judge still has the power... to throw out that
verdict and enter a judgment of acquittal."
Except he didn't DO that.
But he still can.
Nope.
So... you CLAIM is that he can't.
Prove it, hypocrite.
I provided the law, loser.
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon". Provide it again, because
I'm not gonna waste my time looking for it, and we'll go over it and
look for the words that count.
Until then... Trump is STILL not a convicted felon and might not
EVER be, since Judge Merchan...
... Delays Decision On Tossing Trump's Hush Money Conviction - NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-trump-hush-money-
case-delays-key-ruling-ahead-sentencing-rcna179763
Did you read your own source, doofus:

'Trump was convicted in May on 34 felony counts related to hush money
payments made to adult film actor Stormy Daniels. He has denied any
wrongdoing.'
Post by AlleyCat
2 days ago - In response, Merchan's clerk said the joint request for
a stay had been granted and ordered prosecutors from Manhattan
District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office to state their position by 10 a.m. on ...
The judge overseeing Donald Trump's New York criminal trial delayed
a key ruling Tuesday on whether the president-elect's conviction
should be set aside, according to correspondence between the
parties.
Trump's team wants the case dismissed, and the prosecution says it
needs time to evaluate next steps now that Trump has been elected
for a second term. The court has granted them a week's delay to
provide their positions, the clerk informed them in a court filing.
In a letter to state Judge Juan Merchan, prosecutors said they
agreed with Trump's request for a stay to consider how to proceed
given his new status as president-elect.
"The People agree that these are unprecedented circumstances and
that the arguments raised by defense counsel in correspondence to
the People on Friday require careful consideration to ensure that
any further steps in this proceeding appropriately balance the
competing interests of (1) a jury verdict of guilt following trial
that has the presumption of regularity; and (2) the Office of the
President," prosecutor Matthew Colangelo wrote in a letter to the
judge.
Did you read your own source, doofus:

'Trump was convicted in May on 34 felony counts related to hush money
payments made to adult film actor Stormy Daniels. He has denied any
wrongdoing.'
Post by AlleyCat
=====
A "Verdict" Does Not Make a "Convicted Felon"
Judge Merchan Postpones Ruling On Whether To Dismiss Trump Guilty Verdict
https://www.newsweek.com/judge-merchan-postpones-ruling-whether-
dismiss-trump-guilty-verdict-1984464
2 days ago - Merchan twice postponed Trump's sentencing after the
Supreme Court ruled on July 1 that presidents have broad immunity
from prosecution over their official acts. The decision also
restricted prosecutors from using those actions to bolster a case
centered on personal conduct.
Again:

'Trump became the first former president convicted of a felony when a
jury in May convicted him on 34 counts of falsifying business records'
Post by AlleyCat
=====
Judge Delays Decision On Tossing Trump's Hush Money Conviction - NBC News
You can't "toss" a conviction if he hasn't yet been convicted.
Post by AlleyCat
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-trump-hush-money-
case-delays-key-ruling-ahead-sentencing-rcna179763
2 days ago - In response, Merchan's clerk said the joint request for
a stay had been granted and ordered prosecutors from Manhattan
District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office to state their position by 10 a.m. on ...
'Trump was convicted in May on 34 felony counts related to hush money
payments made to adult film actor Stormy Daniels.'
Post by AlleyCat
=====
What Judge Merchan Agreeing To More Delay In Trump's Hush ... - MSNBC
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/
merchan-delay-trump-hush-money-case-new-york-rcna179771
2 days ago - Merchan delayed the sentencing until September and then
to Nov. 26 because of the election, setting Tuesday as the date on
which he would decide whether to overturn the verdicts or dismiss the case.
'He was convicted as a private citizen.'
Post by AlleyCat
=====
Judge Delays Ruling On Donald Trump's Criminal Conviction And
Sentencing
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-delays-ruling-donald-
trump-151404084.html
2 days ago - A New York judge has delayed ruling on whether Donald
Trump's hush money conviction should be overturned in light of the
Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity. Judge Juan
Merchan ...
'A New York judge has delayed ruling on whether Donald Trump’s hush
money conviction should be overturned in light of the Supreme Court’s
ruling on presidential immunity.'

You can't "overturn" something that hasn't already happened.
Post by AlleyCat
=====
Trump Sentencing In Limbo As Merchan Weighs Hush Money Case - NBC New York
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/new-york-city/donald-trump-news-
sentencing-hush-money-merchan-toss-case-presidential-
immunity/5976557/
2 days ago - New York Judge Juan M. Merchan, who presided over
Trump's historic trial, had been scheduled to decide whether to toss
out the jury verdict and order a new trial - or even dismiss the
charges altogether. The judge's ruling was also expected to speak to
whether the former and now future commander-in-chief will be
sentenced as scheduled Nov. 26.
'Trump was convicted in New York of 34 counts of falsifying business
records...'
Post by AlleyCat
=====
Where Does Trump's Hush-Money Sentencing Go From Here?
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/where-does-trumps-hush-money-
sentencing-go-from-here.html
2 days ago - Judge Juan Merchan had been expected to issue a ruling
on whether the Supreme Court's decision regarding presidential
immunity has any impact on Trump's upcoming sentencing in his hush-
money ...
'In May, Trump was convicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records
in connection to payments made to adult-film star Stormy Daniels in
exchange for her silence about an alleged affair.'
Post by AlleyCat
=====
Judge To Decide Whether Trump's Hush Money Conviction Can Stand
That literally means he has been convicted.
Post by AlleyCat
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/judge-decide-whether-trumps-hush-
money-conviction-can-stand-2024-11-10/
4 days ago - Even if Merchan allows the conviction to stand, experts
expect Trump's lawyers to ask the judge to delay the sentencing.
Trump faces a sentence of up to four years in prison after being
convicted ...
You can't "overturn" something that you claim hasn't happened yet.

'Trump in May became the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime...'
Post by AlleyCat
=====
Judge Delays Decision On Whether To Dismiss Trump's Felony
Convictions
Post by Alan
https://san.com/cc/judge-delays-decision-on-whether-to-dismiss-
trumps-felony-convictions/
2 days ago - Manhattan Judge Juan Merchan agreed to delay his
decision on Tuesday, Nov. 12, on whether to dismiss President-elect
Donald Trump's New York hush money convictions until Tuesday, Nov.
19. The delay is to give prosecutors and Trump's lawyers more time
for new arguments following the results of the 2024 presidential
election earlier this month.
Again, you can't dismiss what hasn't happened.

When a judge is deciding whether to dismiss charges...

...that means the charges have already happened.

When a judge is deciding whether to dismiss a conviction...

...the conviction has already happened.
Post by AlleyCat
=====
Judge Juan Merchan Delays Trump Hush-Money Conviction Ruling |
National ...
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/judge-delays-ruling-on-whether-
to-toss-trump-hush-money-conviction-given-presidential-immunity/
2 days ago - Merchan said he would delay his decision until next
Tuesday, November 19. The judge granted the prosecution's request to
delay the hearing. Trump was due to be sentenced on November 26.
'In May, Trump was convicted for falsifying business records related to
a $130,000 hush-money payment he gave porn star Stormy Daniels in 2016.
Daniels claimed she slept with Trump in 2006 that resulted in the
payment to buy her silence. '

Seriously, you think these are supporting your claim?

EVERY...

...SINGLE...

...SOURCE...

...YOU PROVIDED...

...says that he WAS convicted...

...including the extreme right-wing National Review!


You need to stop drinking before you post, Pussey.
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 19:06:43 UTC
Permalink
https://i.imgur.com/zATG7ay.mp4

On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:34:22 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon". Provide it again, because
I'm not gonna waste my time looking for it, and we'll go over it and
look for the words that count.
Until then... Trump is STILL not a convicted felon and might not
EVER be, since Judge Merchan...
... Delays Decision On Tossing Trump's Hush Money Conviction - NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-trump-hush-money-
case-delays-key-ruling-ahead-sentencing-rcna179763
'Trump was convicted in May on 34 felony counts related to hush money
payments made to adult film actor Stormy Daniels. He has denied any
wrongdoing.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
Post by Alan
'Trump was convicted in May on 34 felony counts related to hush money
payments made to adult film actor Stormy Daniels. He has denied any
wrongdoing.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
Post by Alan
'Trump became the first former president convicted of a felony when a
jury in May convicted him on 34 counts of falsifying business records'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Judge Delays Decision On Tossing Trump's Hush Money Conviction - NBC News
You can't "toss" a conviction if he hasn't yet been convicted.
Well... if he hasn't been convicted yet, what the fuck are you whining about?
Post by Alan
'Trump was convicted in May on 34 felony counts related to hush money
payments made to adult film actor Stormy Daniels.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
Post by Alan
'He was convicted as a private citizen.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
Post by Alan
'A New York judge has delayed ruling on whether Donald Trump?s hush
money conviction should be overturned in light of the Supreme Court?s
ruling on presidential immunity.'
You can't "overturn" something that hasn't already happened.
So... Still not a "convicted felon".
Post by Alan
'Trump was convicted in New York of 34 counts of falsifying business
records...'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
Post by Alan
'In May, Trump was convicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records
in connection to payments made to adult-film star Stormy Daniels in
exchange for her silence about an alleged affair.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Judge To Decide Whether Trump's Hush Money Conviction Can Stand
That literally means he has been convicted.
You said above that it hasn't happened yet, so...

... Still not a "convicted felon".
Post by Alan
You can't "overturn" something that you claim hasn't happened yet.
You said above that it hasn't happened yet, so...

... Still not a "convicted felon".
Post by Alan
'Trump in May became the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime...'
May?

You said above that it hasn't happened yet, so...

... Still not a "convicted felon".
Post by Alan
Again, you can't dismiss what hasn't happened.
Well... if he hasn't been convicted yet, what the fuck are you whining about?
Post by Alan
When a judge is deciding whether to dismiss charges...
...that means the charges have already happened.
When a judge is deciding whether to dismiss a conviction...
...the conviction has already happened.
But you said it hasn't yet, so... ... not... ... yet... ... convicted.
Post by Alan
Seriously, you think these are supporting your claim?
Jes.
Post by Alan
EVERY...
...SINGLE...
...SOURCE...
...YOU PROVIDED...
...says that he WAS convicted...
...including the extreme right-wing National Review!
You need to stop drinking before you post, Pussey.
But, still not a felon, since judgment hasn't been rendered.

=====


The judge hasn't entered the JUDGMENT OF GUILT yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a "convicted felon".

Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT.

See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.

Has the JUDGE entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the verdict and enter a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT A CONVICTED FELON. Doesn't REALLY matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN
NEW YORK, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald
Trump's Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear
that term a lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such language
in their stories about the Trump verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in
New York, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald
Trump's Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear
that term a lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such language
in their stories about the Trump verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in
New York, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.

=============================================================================

Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-verdict-conviction-rcna154801

May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.


=====

Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-matters/index.html

May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business
records, the next obvious question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?

The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential candidates. They must:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY -

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/donald-trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/

May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president convicted of a crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT AGAIN. His conviction on Thursday does not bar him from ...

=====

Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-
cohen-daniels/73920427007/

May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S. Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after
they become a felon. The only qualifications are the following:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-charges-voters-indictment

Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with
criminal records from holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...

=====

What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME

https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/

May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential
campaign, even if he were jailed.

=====

Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-constitution-conviction

Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT. WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be
convicted of felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...

COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?

YES.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Alan
2024-11-15 19:17:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
https://i.imgur.com/zATG7ay.mp4
On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:34:22 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon". Provide it again,
because I'm not gonna waste my time looking for it, and we'll go
over it and look for the words that count.
Until then... Trump is STILL not a convicted felon and might not
EVER be, since Judge Merchan...
... Delays Decision On Tossing Trump's Hush Money Conviction - NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-trump-hush-
money- case-delays-key-ruling-ahead-sentencing-rcna179763
'Trump was convicted in May on 34 felony counts related to hush
money payments made to adult film actor Stormy Daniels. He has
denied any wrongdoing.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.

You're literally contradicting your own source.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
'Trump was convicted in May on 34 felony counts related to hush
money payments made to adult film actor Stormy Daniels. He has
denied any wrongdoing.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.

You're literally contradicting your own source.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
'Trump became the first former president convicted of a felony
when a jury in May convicted him on 34 counts of falsifying
business records'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.

You're literally contradicting your own source.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Judge Delays Decision On Tossing Trump's Hush Money Conviction - NBC News
You can't "toss" a conviction if he hasn't yet been convicted.
Well... if he hasn't been convicted yet, what the fuck are you
whining about?
Your own source says the decision is about "tossing" a conviction.

That requires there to have BEEN a conviction.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
'Trump was convicted in May on 34 felony counts related to hush
money payments made to adult film actor Stormy Daniels.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.

You're literally contradicting your own source.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
'He was convicted as a private citizen.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.

You're literally contradicting your own source.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
'A New York judge has delayed ruling on whether Donald Trump?s
hush money conviction should be overturned in light of the Supreme
Court?s ruling on presidential immunity.'
You can't "overturn" something that hasn't already happened.
So... Still not a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.

You're literally contradicting your own source.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
'Trump was convicted in New York of 34 counts of falsifying
business records...'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.

You're literally contradicting your own source.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
'In May, Trump was convicted on 34 counts of falsifying business
records in connection to payments made to adult-film star Stormy
Daniels in exchange for her silence about an alleged affair.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.

You're literally contradicting your own source.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Judge To Decide Whether Trump's Hush Money Conviction Can Stand
That literally means he has been convicted.
You said above that it hasn't happened yet, so...
... Still not a "convicted felon".
No. YOU claim it hasn't happened.

You can't overturn something that hasn't happened.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
You can't "overturn" something that you claim hasn't happened yet.
You said above that it hasn't happened yet, so...
... Still not a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.

You're literally contradicting your own source.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
'Trump in May became the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime...'
May?
You said above that it hasn't happened yet, so...
No. YOU said that.
Post by AlleyCat
... Still not a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.

You're literally contradicting your own source.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
Again, you can't dismiss what hasn't happened.
Well... if he hasn't been convicted yet, what the fuck are you
whining about?
He has been convicted...

...as every single source you just provided agrees.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
When a judge is deciding whether to dismiss charges...
...that means the charges have already happened.
When a judge is deciding whether to dismiss a conviction...
...the conviction has already happened.
But you said it hasn't yet, so... ... not... ... yet... ...
convicted.
Post by Alan
Seriously, you think these are supporting your claim?
Jes.
Post by Alan
EVERY...
...SINGLE...
...SOURCE...
...YOU PROVIDED...
...says that he WAS convicted...
...including the extreme right-wing National Review!
You need to stop drinking before you post, Pussey.
But, still not a felon, since judgment hasn't been rendered.
All your own sources disagree.
Post by AlleyCat
=====
The judge hasn't entered the JUDGMENT OF GUILT yet, so no...
CERTAINLY not a "convicted felon".
Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because
the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT.
See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.
Has the JUDGE entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT? HAS he, Juan Merchan,
approved the verdict and enter a final judgment?
Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT A CONVICTED FELON.
Doesn't REALLY matter though... does it? (see below)
Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE
THE JUDGE HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN
NEW YORK, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the
same day as Trump's sentencing.
You lose again, loser.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-
convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change
depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With
Donald Trump's Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.
=====
According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-
heres-why/
May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A
'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will
hear that term a lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 -
Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such
language in their stories about the Trump verdict, hence
"one".
Post by AlleyCat
=====
Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because
the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in
New York, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the
same day as Trump's sentencing.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-
convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change
depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With
Donald Trump's Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.
Same one.
Post by AlleyCat
=====
According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-
heres-why/
May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A
'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will
hear that term a lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 -
Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such
language in their stories about the Trump verdict, hence
Same source repeated.
Post by AlleyCat
=====
Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because
the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in
New York, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the
same day as Trump's sentencing.
Same ONE "expert".
Post by AlleyCat
=============================================================================
Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-
president-guilty-verdict-conviction-rcna154801
May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush
money conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony
counts of falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July
11.
That literally says he WAS convicted.
Post by AlleyCat
=====
Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-
president-what-matters/index.html
May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former
President Donald Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying
business records, the next obvious question is: Can a convicted
felon run for president?
So does this.
Post by AlleyCat
The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for
Be a natural born citizen. Be at least 35 years old. Have been a US
resident for at least 14 years.
Trump meets all three requirements.
=====
Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY -
https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/
donald-trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/
May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president
convicted of a crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM
RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN. His conviction on Thursday does not bar
him from ...
Another source that agrees he has been convicted.
Post by AlleyCat
=====
Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions
Answered
https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-
guilty-what-happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-
vote- cohen-daniels/73920427007/
May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The
U.S. Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president
after they become a felon. The only qualifications are the
Be a natural born citizen. Be at least 35 years old. Have been a US
resident for at least 14 years.
Trump meets all three requirements.
"He [Trump] has vowed to appeal his conviction."

You say he hasn't been convicted, but even Trump disagrees.
Post by AlleyCat
=====
YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...
https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-
campaign-arrest-charges-voters-indictment
Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for
Trump, there's nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates
with criminal records from holding office. In fact, an individual
only has to be ...
This one literally has nothing to say about whether or not he was
convicted...

...because it was written before the conviction.
Post by AlleyCat
=====
What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME
https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/
May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony
conviction will not disqualify Trump from continuing his
presidential campaign, even if he were jailed.
Did you read the headline you just copied?
Post by AlleyCat
=====
Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-
president-constitution-conviction
Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM
PT. WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to
be convicted of felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found
him ...
COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?
YES.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A
FELON FROM HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.
'Donald Trump became the first former president to be convicted of
felony crimes.'
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 20:07:00 UTC
Permalink
https://i.imgur.com/zATG7ay.mp4

On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:17:46 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.
My source never said Trump is a "convicted felon".

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Alan
2024-11-15 20:23:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
https://i.imgur.com/zATG7ay.mp4
On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:17:46 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.
My source never said Trump is a "convicted felon".
ALL your sources said it.
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 21:01:51 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:23:49 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
https://i.imgur.com/zATG7ay.mp4
On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:17:46 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.
My source never said Trump is a "convicted felon".
ALL your sources said it.
Nope.

All of them?

Really?

You lose again, loser.

=====

Source #1:

Why DONALD TRUMP ISN'T A CONVICTED FELON (Yet)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald
Trump's Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

Well... that's one, so... NOT all.

=====

Source #2:

According To One Legal Expert, DONALD TRUMP ISN'T A CONVICTED FELON

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear
that term a lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such language
in their stories about the Trump verdict, hence

Well... that's two, so... NOT all.

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in
New York, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald
Trump's Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

Well... that's three, so... NOT all.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear
that term a lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such language
in their stories about the Trump verdict, hence

Well... that's four, so... NOT all.

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in
New York, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.

Well... that's five, so... NOT all.

=============================================================================

Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-verdict-conviction-rcna154801

May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.


=====

Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-matters/index.html

May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business
records, the next obvious question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?

The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential candidates. They must:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-
cohen-daniels/73920427007/

May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S. Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after
they become a felon. The only qualifications are the following:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-charges-voters-indictment

Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with
criminal records from holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...

=====

What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME

https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/

May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential
campaign, even if he were jailed.

=====

Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-constitution-conviction

Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT. WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be
convicted of felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...

COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?

YES.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.
Alan
2024-11-15 21:04:02 UTC
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:23:49 -0800, Alan says...
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:17:46 -0800, Alan says...
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Post by AlleyCat
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.
My source never said Trump is a "convicted felon".
ALL your sources said it.
Nope.
Yup.
Post by AlleyCat
All of them?
Yup.
Post by AlleyCat
Really?
Really.
Post by AlleyCat
You lose again, loser.
<snipped the repetitive reporting of one "expert's" opinion>
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 21:17:30 UTC
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Plonk!

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Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

AlleyCat
2024-11-15 20:07:01 UTC
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:17:46 -0800, Alan says...
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Post by AlleyCat
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.
My source never said Trump is a "convicted felon".

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
AlleyCat
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:17:46 -0800, Alan says...
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Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
'Trump became the first former president convicted of a felony
when a jury in May convicted him on 34 counts of falsifying
business records'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.
My source never said Trump is a "convicted felon".

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 20:07:02 UTC
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:17:46 -0800, Alan says...
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Post by AlleyCat
Well... if he hasn't been convicted yet, what the fuck are you whining about?
Your own source says the decision is about "tossing" a conviction.
That requires there to have BEEN a conviction.
My source never said Trump is a "convicted felon".

So, still not a felon.

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 20:09:54 UTC
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Post by Alan
'Trump was convicted in May on 34 felony counts related to hush
money payments made to adult film actor Stormy Daniels.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.
You're literally contradicting your own source.
My source never said Trump is a "convicted felon".
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 20:10:55 UTC
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:17:46 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
But, still not a felon, since judgment hasn't been rendered.
All your own sources disagree.
My source never said Trump is a "convicted felon".

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"Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition

All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.

"Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald
Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."

Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into three
distinct phases or stages:

"In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140
characters were all it took to change the world."

"The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting solely of
hyperbole."

"As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality."

The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk opposition from liberals to anything and everything Trump
does. If Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's ever made, TDS sufferers would suggest he was up to something nefarious,
according to the logic of TDS. There's nothing - not. one. thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be received positively by TDSers.

The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early 2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was a punch
line for late-night comics and nothing more.

Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first coined by the late conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer back
in 2003. The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies,
the presidency - nay - the very existence of George W. Bush."

Added Krauthammer:

"Some clinicians consider this delusion - that Americans can only get their news from one part of the political spectrum - the gravest of
all. They report that no matter how many times sufferers in padded cells are presented with flash cards with the symbols ABC, NBC, CBS,
CNN, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, Time, Newsweek, New York Times, Washington Post, L.A. Times - they remain unresponsive, some in a terrifying near-
catatonic torpor."

(If you don't realize the idea of TDS or BDS is - in no small part - meant in a tongue-in-cheek manner then, well, you may well have it.)

Trump allies believe that TDS is worse than ODS or BDS - by a lot. Wrote conservative pundit Bernie Goldberg on Real Clear Politics in
early 2017:

"Before the election, the victims of TDS routinely compared Donald Trump to Hitler. Guess what. They're still doing it. Articles in
respectable publications written by professors at elite universities are warning us to be on guard, that a Trump presidency could imperil
democracy-as-we-know-it and may very well spell doom for American civilization.

"On election night, as it became obvious that their worst nightmare was about to come true, some libs fainted. Some vomited. Many more
threatened to leave the country, but I'm pretty sure none actually did. As Donald Trump might say in a tweet: so sad!"

The truth is that TDS is just the preferred nomenclature of Trump defenders who view those who oppose him and his policies as nothing more
than the blind hatred of those who preach tolerance and free speech. Viewed more broadly, the rise of presidential derangement syndromes is
a function of increased polarization - not to mention our national self-sorting - at work in the country today.

We no longer live around, work around or pal around with people who think any differently than us. We watch cable news that affirms what we
already think. We read ideological "news" sites that tell us how good our side is and how bad the other one is. And on and on and on.

Is it any wonder then that we are increasingly willing to lump those who disagree with us into the "deranged" category? To say that those
who don't share our views are mentally deficient in some way?

What does it say about a President - and about a country - when the standard response to those with whom you disagree is that they must be
crazy? Nothing good, for sure.

=====

Many clinicians, political commentators, and members of the public have speculated upon the mental health of President Donald Trump.
Indeed, over 70,000 people self-identifying as "mental health professionals" have signed a petition declaring that "Trump is mentally ill
and must be removed." In sociological terms, the "medical gaze" has been hitherto focused on President Trump, and to a lesser extent his
ardent supporters.

However, in recent months, many have been questioning the direction of this "medical gaze." In fact, more and more people are suggesting
that this "medical gaze" should be reversed and refocused on President Trump's most embittered and partisan opponents. Some have even
suggested that these opponents are experiencing a specific mental condition-a condition which has been labelled "Trump Derangement
Syndrome" (TDS).
What does DSM-5 say about "Trump Derangement Syndrome"?

Mental illnesses are officially classified in a dense and dry book published by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) known as the
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5). This book contains 947 pages and lists hundreds of mental
disorders; TDS is nowhere to be seen. Similarly, a review of scholarly databases such as MEDLINE and Google Scholar reveal no academic
papers on this alleged syndrome. Officially at least, TDS is not a real, diagnosable, or treatable mental disorder.

That said, medical anthropologists and critical sociologists have convincingly argued that DSM-5 is a flawed document. Indeed, social
scientists have long recognized that there are numerous "folk categories" of mental disorders that are considered real conditions by the
general public, even though they are not recognized as such in the DSM. These include categories such as "burnout" or "nervous breakdown."

As such, lack of official recognition does not mean that TDS is not a real mental condition.


Lay Understandings of "Trump Derangement Syndrome"

There is no shared lay understanding of TDS, mainly because it is a folk category rather than a professional category. As such, there is
currently much armchair speculation about the nature and existence of TDS, without consensus.

The name itself explicitly suggests a "syndrome," which the Oxford English Dictionary defines as "a characteristic combination of opinions,
emotions, or behavior." Several commentators have run with this, putting forth suggestions about opinions, emotions and behaviors
characterizing TDS.

Shared amongst these is a notion that the everyday activities of President Trump trigger some people into distorted opinions, extreme
emotions and hysterical behaviors. Well-known writer Bernard Goldberg gives supposed behavioral examples of TDS among Trump's political
opponents, including fainting, vomiting, students retreating to "safe spaces" and others demanding "therapy dogs." Political commentator
Justin Raimondo focuses on opinions, language and cognition, writing in the LA Times that "sufferers speak a distinctive language
consisting of hyperbole [leading to] a constant state of hysteria... the afflicted lose touch with reality."

Such forms of highly emotional reaction could be something akin to the fainting and screaming characterizing American Beatlemania in the
1960s. Unlike the Beatles, however, the extreme emotional reaction alleged to characterize TDS is not based on adoration and admiration,
but on fear and loathing.

Contrariwise, many others ridicule the notion that TDS is anything but a malicious slur term used to discredit and delegitimize criticism
of President Trump. For example, CNN's Chris Cillizza may speak for many when he stated: "The truth is that TDS is just the preferred
nomenclature of Trump defenders who view those who oppose him and his policies as nothing more than blind hatred." Likewise, Adam Gopnik
writes that "our problem is not TDS; our problem is Deranged Trump Self-Delusion."

In other words, there are polarized opinions about the nature, reality and existence of TDS.


Conclusion

The wider public may be unaware that psychiatrists and social scientists spend considerable time and energy behind closed doors pondering
over the existence and reality of mental conditions. This has led the APA to revise the DSM five times since 1952, considerably expanding
the list of official mental disorders with each revision. As far as I am aware, few psychiatrists are currently arguing that DSM-6 should
contain TDS as a mental disorder.

That said, in its official definition of mental disorder, the DSM-5 states that "a mental disorder is a syndrome characterized by
clinically significant disturbance in an individual's cognition, emotion regulation, or behavior... mental disorders are usually associated
with significant distress in social, occupational, or other important activities."

Many have argued that some people have been seriously disturbed and distressed by the policies, speech, behavior, and tweets of President
Trump, so much so that it has affected their cognitive, affective, and behavioral functioning. Such people may need mental health support.
As such, further research is necessary to investigate the extreme reactions toward President Trump, in the same way that researchers
investigate other extreme social phenomena, such as Beatlemania or the like. This will shed light on the reality of this emerging folk
category that has been labelled by many as "Trump Derangement Syndrome."
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2024-11-15 20:11:26 UTC
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Post by Alan
'He was convicted as a private citizen.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.
You're literally contradicting your own source.
My source never said Trump is a "convicted felon".

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Alan's Low Self Esteem FORCES Him To Reply, Even When There's NOTHING To Reply TO

This Is Why Alan Can't Admit He's Wrong

They say it takes a big person to admit their mistakes, but for Alan, saying he's wrong feels impossible.

But why does Alan do it? We've asked psychologist Dr. Tim Sharp, chief happiness officer at The Happiness Institute, to explain:

They think being wrong means they're unworthy - Yup... Low-Self-Esteem

For Alan, conceding that he's fallible can evoke a deep psychological anxiety regarding "the risks or the consequences associated with loss
or failure," says Sharp.

"I think the reason Alan can't apologize isn't actually because he doesn't like to be wrong, but because it's seen as an inherent character
fault," he explains.

Sharp says that for non-apologists, the irrational need to always be "perfect" rules their ego and they feel their screw-ups are
unforgivable.

"The difficulty in admitting failure largely comes from the unrealistic expectation that 'I should get it right all the time, or not even
try or make it seem as if I am'" he says.

Alan Thinks Never Admitting Fault Makes Him Look Stronger

For Alan, appearing wrong is congruent to appearing weak, but Sharp says they could not be more wrong, because a good leader admits their
mistakes.

"There's some actually very interesting research that leaders who express vulnerability and are more open to being fallible tend to be more
highly regarded," the expert explains.

"This makes sense because if someone is saying, 'I'm 100 percent perfect, I'm 100 percent right all the time,' that's pretty hard to
believe," says the psychologist.

(But, THAT'S Ski Bunny)

"I'd find it hard to trust that person because there's no one I know 100 percent perfect.

Whereas if Alan would say, 'You know, I'm going to do my best but I'll make mistakes sometimes, I'll get it wrong, I'm sorry but I'll try
to fix it,'... to me, that's more believable. I'd be more trusting of that sort of person."

They Don't Value The Truth

(NO liberal does... THAT'S their M.O.)

For Alan, the fact is he "doesn't necessarily value truth and honesty," says Sharp.

"While I personally value truth and honesty, what I've come to learn, which I find hard to understand but it's just a reality, is that Alan
doesn't value those things as highly as me," says Sharp.

Taking political discussion as an example, the expert says Alan, who eats up "fake news" propaganda, doesn't value facts. When it comes to
the truth, the expert warns that Alan "will literally say, 'I don't really care.'"

"Alan doesn't care about it because he values other aspects of what they're perceiving much more," he says.

Citing the upsurge of alt-left political movements around the world, Sharp says how Alan approaches a situation will often reveal whether
facts or feelings will influence them more.

"[Logical people] will look for facts and information and data and make their decisions accordingly," he explains. "Other people make their
decisions based on much more emotion. Now the problem comes when you try to talk logic to an emotional person because it just won't wear...
you're talking different languages.
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Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
'A New York judge has delayed ruling on whether Donald Trump?s
hush money conviction should be overturned in light of the Supreme
Court?s ruling on presidential immunity.'
You can't "overturn" something that hasn't already happened.
So... Still not a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.
You're literally contradicting your own source.
My source never said Trump is a "convicted felon".

============================================================================

You probably spend a small amount of time feeling sorry for Alan, but elated when this undeserved narcissist starts spouting his hate and
bile.

Have you ever wondered how to make a Alan, the narcissist, miserable and what makes him afraid or triggered? (maybe for a second... then
it's gone)

Just for the record, trying to make Alan, the narcissist, miserable might have its place for a short period of time, but I don't recommend
focusing on it for too long as this will inevitably get old.

But, if you need a quik fix, let's get into the top things all narcissists, like Alan, hate.

How to Make Alan, the narcissist, Miserable

Lack Of Acknowledgment: (filter on ignore)

Even though he KNOWS he's being ignored, he continues to reply, as if ANYONE really cares, other than himself. THAT is narcissism.

It's no secret that most narcissists, like Alan, revel in admiration and validation (except for 'closet narcissists', like Alan). Alan
depends on constant approval to maintain his sense of intrinsic worth. To achieve this goal, he TRIES to absorb (or steal) the energy of
other people.

"Prove it."

Do you ever wonder why narcissists, like Alan, don't seem to mind the negative attention? It's because negative attention also fuels his
narcissistic fire.

ANY attention, even NEGATIVE attention, IS STILL ATTENTION, and any form of attention gives him the incentive to keep going. It gives him
the motivation to keep proving himself (by making others prove THEMSELVES.

In fact, he often likes negative attention better, because if you're still amused by his emotional crimes, he can try to exploit this.

Therefore, a lack of acknowledgment is the real threat. To Alan, the narcissist, indifference is even more of an issue than hatred. Alan's
rather you have a negative opinion than have no opinion at all.

(sick fuck)

Narcissists, like Alan, can't stand it when no one is paying attention to him. Alan doesn't know how to feel important or special if he
isn't the center of the universe or consuming someone's thoughts. This is also why the traditional Grey Rock method is often pointless and
why complete avoidance is the best route (or extreme modified contact... just ignore the sick fuck).

When People Speak Factually:

Have you ever paid close attention to how Alan, the narcissist, speaks? He ALWAYS trying to belittle those he THINKS are below his station.

Additionally, through the use of cognitive empathy, he's spent his entire life observing the emotional language of other people, ESPECIALLY
RUSSIAN SPORTS OFFICIALS and using it to his advantage. So, when you speak in facts instead of using emotion, he intuitively understands he
has less of an upper hand.

Therefore, he hates it when someone challenges him with facts instead of emotion. Alan will usually retaliate with more arguing or
hysteria. PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT!

This childish response simply shows that he feel out-of-control. Alan's attempt to elevate the conversation's intensity by throwing an
emotional temper tantrum. PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT!

If anything, this dynamic only highlights the narcissist's immaturity. His inability to absorb facts demonstrates his incompetence in
approaching most adult interactions.

Authority:

Narcissists, like Alan, detest authority. That's because he resents having to answer to anybody but himself (mommy orders him around,
further compounding his anger).

"Ski lifts are closed... too much snow." Bu bu but snow is just a thing of the past, Alan says, even though we're seeing snow levels we saw
in the 70s, when CO² was MUCH lower.

Any sense of authority threatens his inherent desire for power and control. "You can't ski here, bunny."

While narcissists, like Alan, can be intelligent, he often come across as combative and unfit in professional environments. If confronted
by his inappropriate behavior, he tends to deny or rationalize his part. PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE
IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT!

Of course, it's no surprise that most authority figures dislike working with narcissists, like Alan. Supervisors (LOL) find him unruly and
unreasonable.

Alan can't understand why the person can't follow basic directions without such volatile reactions.

Being Told No:

Of all things, Alan, the narcissist, hates being told no (and actually following through with it) tops the list. Narcissists, like Alan,
are used to manipulating and weaseling his way into getting what he wants.

Often, he'll pull all the stops to accomplish this task. He's spent his whole life charming people to meet his needs.

That's why telling him no, and being adamant on your stance, often causes such an angry reaction. Alan, the narcissist, isn't just upset
about the denial - he's downright confused by it!

Narcissists, like Alan, can't actually fathom why someone would refuse him. Because he lacks real empathy, he can't understand what must be
going on in your mind. Moreover, even if he tries to comprehend it, he refuses to accept this reality.

Implementing Consequences:

Have you ever tried to set a boundary with Alan, the narcissist,? How well did it go? Most likely, you tried to implement a limit, and he
reacted in one of three ways:

Dismissing you altogether and gas-lighting your feelings, acknowledging his mistake (LOL), and then doing nothing to change.

Narcissists, like Alan, can't accept any real consequences. Alan can't see when he's wrong, and he can't understand how someone would ever
think he's wrong. And even if the narcissist understood this, he simply wouldn't care. As a result, he tends to react disproportionately to
boundaries and serious conversations as a means to intimidate you and force you into compliance.

Unfortunately, many people simply give up on trying to implement consequences with narcissists, like Alan.

(filters set to ignorte)

Losing At Anything:

Narcissists, like Alan, can resemble toddlers, in that he tend to be extremely sore losers. Alan struggles to accept losing, and he also
tends to lash out when it happens. A few scenarios may occur:

Alan repeatedly proclaims a person on Usenet is incompetent. Alan's attempt to defame or humiliate the winner. Alan pretends he didn't care
about winning. Alan insists that he "let the other person" take the spotlight. Alan refuses to accept that he lost and awkwardly acts as if
he's the actual winner.

Public Humiliation:

Because narcissists, like Alan, are sore losers, he can't handle real or perceived public humiliation. Alan just can't tolerate the threat
of failure. To him, public humiliation is the ultimate form of defeat.

(and THAT'S why he HAS to be the last poster in a thread, if he has felt that he's been slighted, in the least)

We all know that narcissists, like Alan, have incredibly fragile egos. When he believes someone is making fun of him or if he's not the
perceived expert or authority in a public setting, it jolts his existence. As a result, he'll do anything to protect his fragile ego. Some
common responses include:

Laughing it off in public only to lash out later

Making up lies about anyone who is a real expert. ("Dr. Ian Clark is not a REAL climatologist!!!")

Expectations of Commitment

Most narcissists, like Alan, are terrible with commitment. Although he believes he deserves all senses of loyalty, he doesn't usually
provide it himself. As a result, when he gets into relationships (mommy only), he doesn't consider her needs. He's only accounting for his
own emotions, impulses, and desires.

Unfortunately, his mother holds onto wistful hope about her narcissist changing. She listens to how the narcissist praises and adores her.
She holds onto fleeting promises that this time will be different.

Yet, Alan, the narcissist makes all the rules. Alan decides what he wants to do, and he does it when he wants to do it. Therefore, he can
break and change the rules in ways that suits him.

Prove it! Prove it! Prove it! Prove it! Prove it! Prove it! Prove it! Prove it! Prove it! Prove it!

99% of Other People:

How many friends does your narcissist have? Probably very few (more like NONE). Usually, his only friends are other people who validate his
narcissism, like mommy.

Subsequently, how often do you hear Alan complain about other people? (ALL THE TIME) More times than you can count, probably! That's
because a single wrongdoing often results in lifetime resentment. One mistake tarnishes an entire reputation.

Narcissists, like Alan, struggle to get along with anyone who doesn't fit into his falsified worldview. Alan can't stand to be challenged.
Alan can't tolerate the ideas that other people may know more than him.

If he's a cerebral narcissist, he is convinced that he is unique and should only associate with other special or high-status individuals.
In fact, when confronted with anything that contradicts his sense of god-like stature, you can bet that his reaction will be explosive and
malicious.

Therefore, narcissists, like Alan, can't tolerate people who actually live in reality. That's why you rarely see people with strong
boundaries tolerating narcissists, like Alan, for very long.

When You Change The Status Quo:

Narcissists, like Alan, hate change when it's out of his control. When you challenge Alan, the narcissist, he remains in a defeating
pattern full of resentment and frustration, lashing out to make himself feel dominate.

Prove it!

I did.
AlleyCat
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Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
'Trump was convicted in New York of 34 counts of falsifying
business records...'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
That's not what your own source says.
You're literally contradicting your own source.
My source never said Trump is a "convicted felon".

=======================================================================================================================

Why Alan Is Alan

There are many similarities between the way Alan the narcissist thinks and processes things and the way children do. In fact, in many ways,
these processes are virtually identical. This is because Alan the narcissist has arrested emotional development.

The emotional maturation that most children go through did not occur within Alan, for whatever reason. Often, this reason is abuse or
neglect during childhood.

These things caused Alan to focus intensely on himself, to the exclusion of all other things. It also results in the mind being taken up
with trying to defend itself from his abuse.

Alan's mind is, in a sense, always playing catch up, and because of the trauma that he has experienced, some things are skipped, so to
speak, or don't happen.

(see Alan's separation from reality)

His mind becomes locked in a pattern of defensive reaction and emotional perception, made up of many different but related facets, that
matures extremely slowly and is extrordinarily resistant to change. We call this reaction/defense pattern malignant narcissism.

In children, these things are normal. In Alan, they are evidence of a disorder.

Young children and babies are not capable of understanding the emotions or needs of others. They only know want and need. They have no way
of taking care of their own needs, and they can only scream for someone to do it for them. When Alan's mother was exhausted and deathly ill
with a fever and vomiting, and she'd been up for three days, and she simply could not cope anymore, does Alan sympathize accordingly? Does
Alan stop crying?

No. Alan does not recognize this. Alan does not care. Alan can NOT care. He can only keep screaming out his needs, regardless of his
mother's suffering.

This is, in essence, what you are dealing with when it comes to Alan the narcissist. He does not recognize, understand or consider other
people's needs.

He sees only his own, and his inability to meet them. The more damaged Alan is, the more narcissistic he will be, the more immature he will
be and the more childish his way of thinking.

And this is not childish as in, silly. This is immature as in, the emotional maturity and understanding of a toddler.

For example, besides the hysterical tantrum behavior we see in Alan that is very clearly on par with a very young child's, Alan the
narcissist generally believes he is immune to the things that happen to "regular" people.

This is an example of something called magical thinking which is a phenomenon we commonly see in very young children. Alan sees feelings as
facts, the way that children do. Alan the narcissist sees everything in the world as an extension of himself, the way that children do and
Alan the narcissist truly believes in his own perceived omnipresence and immortality as children do.

He has always been, he will always be.

So children believe... so Alan the narcissist believes.

The view that he is just another person that must fit into a wider world does not occur to young children.

How could it? Rather, Alan functions under the assumption that the world fits around HIM, and that everything he experiences or encounters
is related to him in some form.

This is the same way Alan see things. He has never matured past this extremely immature way of looking at things. The idea that the world
does not revolve around them never occurs to children, as it does not occur to Alan.

For example, children view their parents as only having to do with them and connected only to them, rather than as separate people with
their own lives, needs, wants, feelings, etc. Parents are very one dimensional to young children; despite the fact that children are only
one part of the parent's life, the child does not see this nor understand it in any way.

To a child, parents only exist as their caretakers. It is the only context children view parents in and the only context they can
understand. This is identical to how Alan the narcissist views all other people: outside of the narcissist and the narcissist's needs,
these people do not exist.

As children mature, they learn that this viewpoint is not true; they learn to see and appreciate their parents as individuals that are
separate from themselves. Alan does not.

The development of Alan is so arrested that this, coupled with such extreme self-focus means he is never able to separate himself as an
authentic individual from the external world.

Because of this, Alan often feels acted upon by the world and other people or circumstances, rather than as people who act in the world.

In Alan's view, he does not act, but rather react to the things that are being done to him. It's as if he never outgrew the idea of himself
as a powerless child, unable to take control or ownership of his own life.

He behaves as though other people are still responsible for his emotions, the way that parents are responsible for a small child. He seems
unable to own his choices or even to recognize that things are choices. And this is also like a child.

Alan the narcissist is generally impulsive, irrational and extremely immature. He is careless, irresponsible and foolhardy. He doesn't seem
able to consider consequences or think about things before he does them, just like a child.

When pressed for an answer as to why he's done something, Alan may seem just as mystified as everyone else. "I don't know" is a very common
answer. It may be the truth. He seems to possess very little insight as to why he does things, simply reacting on impulse as we see
children do.

Like a child, Alan often feels helpless in a world of more powerful, more competent, more knowledgeable adults.

However, this is also an excuse. It's easier to be a helpless victim. If you are a victim, you can never be blamed. If you are helpless,
you can never be forced to take responsibility.

Children are not blamed for not controlling themselves or for their choices. Alan doesn't seem to feel he should be either. He doesn't seem
to understand the difference between a child and an adult, and he will often say things to that effect. These are mostly things that no
self-respecting mature adult would ever say.

*PUSSEY!*

He may compare himself to a child, compete with the children, or complain that his spouse (LOL) holds "double standards" because the kids
are allowed to get away with things that they are called out for. Alan doesn't seem to realize that adults and children are held to
different standards, or why this should be.

For example, the narcissist must be asked repeatedly every single night to bring their plate into the kitchen, or throw their clothing in
the hamper rather than leaving these things on the ground. Instead of simply doing it, the narcissist responds that little Johnny never
does it either but he doesn't get yelled at. Little Johnny is seven. The narcissist is 40 and is one of Little Johnny's parents.

The discrepancy here is obvious; this is the type of response you would receive from a child that does not want to do his chores, not an
adult. To the narcissist, this is a clear example of favoritism and being attacked for who they are. It does not seem to enter Alan's mind
that there is a very large difference between a 7-year-old and a 40-year-old. Regardless of whether or not he actually feels this way, the
childishness and absurdity of his argument is really unbelievable-almost shocking in it's ignorance. There is not only the complete refusal
to behave as an adult, there is an inability to even understand why this would be expected.

The truth is, underneath of all of the horrible things Alan does, the narcissist is still that 5-year-old child pretending he is somebody
else to escape an abusive situation that ended years ago. When all of Alan's reasoning is examined, when all of Alan's behavior is
scrutinized and looked at through the lens of perspective rather than pain, this is what we are left with: a person with the emotional
maturity of a toddler who cannot understand why they are expected to behave otherwise and who is trying desperately to pretend they are
somebody else.

All of Alan's attention seeking, all of Alan's manipulations, all of Alan's gas lighting, all of Alan's smear campaigns, all of Alan's
abuse, all of the hurtful things he does, when seen for what they really are, these things are nothing but childish behaviors that have
been perpetrated by an adult.

Every single one of these things is seen in children. Gas-lighting is a 3 year old with chocolate all over his face who is hiding the
chocolate bar behind his back in plain view, saying "What chocolate, Mommy? I don't have chocolate." Smear campaigns are a 6-year-old
telling lies about a girl to all that girl's friends so they won't like her anymore. Though these behaviors are sometimes seen as
sophisticated schemes, they really aren't. They are the same childish and petty things we all dealt with on the elementary school
playground. They are just more confusing and therefore more dangerous because they are coming from an adult.
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 19:07:35 UTC
Permalink
https://i.imgur.com/zATG7ay.mp4

On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:34:22 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Judge Delays Decision On Tossing Trump's Hush Money Conviction - NBC News
You can't "toss" a conviction if he hasn't yet been convicted.
So... finally... you admit he hasn't been convicted and STILL not a felon.

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Alan
2024-11-15 19:18:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
https://i.imgur.com/zATG7ay.mp4
On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:34:22 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Judge Delays Decision On Tossing Trump's Hush Money Conviction - NBC News
You can't "toss" a conviction if he hasn't yet been convicted.
So... finally... you admit he hasn't been convicted and STILL not a felon.
Nope.

That is literally the opposite of what I just showed.
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 20:07:07 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:18:17 -0800, Alan says...
Subject: Re: So You're Saying There's a Chance!
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump, alt.politics.liberalism, alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:18:17 -0800
Post by AlleyCat
https://i.imgur.com/zATG7ay.mp4
On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:34:22 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Judge Delays Decision On Tossing Trump's Hush Money Conviction - NBC News
You can't "toss" a conviction if he hasn't yet been convicted.
So... finally... you admit he hasn't been convicted and STILL not a felon.
Nope.
Nope. No...

https://i.imgur.com/EVjKvBI.mp4

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 20:07:10 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:20:40 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 09:18:28 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt
against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still
has the power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of
acquittal."
Except he didn't DO that.
But he still can.
Nope.
So... you CLAIM is that he can't.
Prove it, hypocrite.
I provided the law, loser.
That said nothing about Trump being a "convicted felon".

=====

The judge hasn't entered the JUDGMENT OF GUILT yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a "convicted felon".

Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT.

See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.

Has the JUDGE entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the verdict and enter a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT A CONVICTED FELON. Doesn't REALLY matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN
NEW YORK, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald
Trump's Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear
that term a lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such language
in their stories about the Trump verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in
New York, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald
Trump's Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear
that term a lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such language
in their stories about the Trump verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in
New York, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.

=============================================================================

Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-verdict-conviction-rcna154801

May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.


=====

Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-matters/index.html

May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business
records, the next obvious question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?

The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential candidates. They must:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY -

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/donald-trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/

May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president convicted of a crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT AGAIN. His conviction on Thursday does not bar him from ...

=====

Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-
cohen-daniels/73920427007/

May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S. Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after
they become a felon. The only qualifications are the following:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-charges-voters-indictment

Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with
criminal records from holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...

=====

What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME

https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/

May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential
campaign, even if he were jailed.

=====

Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-constitution-conviction

Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT. WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be
convicted of felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...

COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?

YES.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Alan
2024-11-15 20:24:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:20:40 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 09:18:28 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt
against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still
has the power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of
acquittal."
Except he didn't DO that.
But he still can.
Nope.
So... you CLAIM is that he can't.
Prove it, hypocrite.
I provided the law, loser.
That said nothing about Trump being a "convicted felon".
The law said that you're convicted the moment the jury returns a verdict
of guilty.
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 21:05:42 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:24:50 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
That said nothing about Trump being a "convicted felon".
The law said that you're convicted the moment the jury returns a verdict
of guilty.
And not a felon till judgment, IF that ever comes. STILL won't matter. [1]

Keep splittin' them dick hairs, faggot.

PLONK!

=====

The judge hasn't entered the JUDGMENT OF GUILT yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a "convicted felon".

Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT.

See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.

Has the JUDGE entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the verdict and enter a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT A CONVICTED FELON. Doesn't REALLY matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN
NEW YORK, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

=====

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald
Trump's Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear
that term a lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such language
in their stories about the Trump verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in
New York, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald
Trump's Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear
that term a lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such language
in their stories about the Trump verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in
New York, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.

=============================================================================

[1]

Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-verdict-conviction-rcna154801

May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.


=====

[1]

Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-matters/index.html

May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business
records, the next obvious question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?

The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential candidates. They must:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

[1]

Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-
cohen-daniels/73920427007/

May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S. Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after
they become a felon. The only qualifications are the following:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

[1]

YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-charges-voters-indictment

Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with
criminal records from holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...

=====

[1]

What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME

https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/

May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential
campaign, even if he were jailed.

=====

[1]

Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-constitution-conviction

Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT. WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be
convicted of felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...

COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?

YES.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.
Alan
2024-11-15 21:07:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:24:50 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
That said nothing about Trump being a "convicted felon".
The law said that you're convicted the moment the jury returns a verdict
of guilty.
And not a felon till judgment, IF that ever comes. STILL won't matter. [1]
And look at you drag the goal posts!

When you're convicted (which you've now tacitly admitted he was by
moving your goal posts) of a felony...

...then you're felon.
Skeeter
2024-11-11 13:48:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 09:02:47 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Tell that to CNN, who wrote it.
CNN can get it wrong.
Yes.
Post by Alan
The USSC HAS weighed in.
Not the point CNN, NOR I, were making. The point wasn't what the USSC did.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Donald Trump Faces Travel Ban To 37 Countries
his newfound felon status
STILL not a felon, dumb ass.
STILL not adjudicated, STILL not convicted.
Trump's two federal trials are also ON ICE. The judge in Florida overseeing the case in which federal prosecutors allege he mishandled
classified documents and tried to hide them from the National Archives HAS PROCEEDED VERY SLOWLY AND HAS ALLOWED PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS TO
PILE UP. The trial is CURRENTLY POSTPONED INDEFINITELY.
AND he's still to be adjudicated on the jury's decisions against him.
What are you pretending that means.
The jury found him GUILTY.
That is what being convicted IS.
It will be overturned.
Alan
2024-11-11 17:18:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 09:02:47 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Tell that to CNN, who wrote it.
CNN can get it wrong.
Yes.
Post by Alan
The USSC HAS weighed in.
Not the point CNN, NOR I, were making. The point wasn't what the USSC did.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Donald Trump Faces Travel Ban To 37 Countries
his newfound felon status
STILL not a felon, dumb ass.
STILL not adjudicated, STILL not convicted.
Trump's two federal trials are also ON ICE. The judge in Florida overseeing the case in which federal prosecutors allege he mishandled
classified documents and tried to hide them from the National Archives HAS PROCEEDED VERY SLOWLY AND HAS ALLOWED PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS TO
PILE UP. The trial is CURRENTLY POSTPONED INDEFINITELY.
AND he's still to be adjudicated on the jury's decisions against him.
What are you pretending that means.
The jury found him GUILTY.
That is what being convicted IS.
It will be overturned.
Until it is, he's convicted.
AlleyCat
2024-11-11 18:43:58 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 09:18:43 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 09:02:47 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Tell that to CNN, who wrote it.
CNN can get it wrong.
Yes.
Post by Alan
The USSC HAS weighed in.
Not the point CNN, NOR I, were making. The point wasn't what the USSC did.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Donald Trump Faces Travel Ban To 37 Countries
his newfound felon status
STILL not a felon, dumb ass.
STILL not adjudicated, STILL not convicted.
Trump's two federal trials are also ON ICE. The judge in Florida overseeing the case in which federal prosecutors allege he mishandled
classified documents and tried to hide them from the National Archives HAS PROCEEDED VERY SLOWLY AND HAS ALLOWED PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS TO
PILE UP. The trial is CURRENTLY POSTPONED INDEFINITELY.
AND he's still to be adjudicated on the jury's decisions against him.
What are you pretending that means.
The jury found him GUILTY.
That is what being convicted IS.
It will be overturned.
Until it is, he's convicted.
And still not a convicted felon.

The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".

Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt.

See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.

Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT a convicted felon. Doesn't REALLY
matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE
HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN NEW YORK, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

=============================================================================

Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-
verdict-conviction-rcna154801

May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money
conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.

=====

Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-
matters/index.html

May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald
Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business records, the next obvious
question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?

The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential
candidates. They must:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY -

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/donald-
trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/

May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president convicted of a
crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN.
His conviction on Thursday does not bar him from ...

=====

Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-
happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-cohen-
daniels/73920427007/

May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S.
Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after they become a
felon. The only qualifications are the following:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-
charges-voters-indictment

Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's
nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with criminal records from
holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...

=====

What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME

https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/

May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will
not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential campaign, even if he were
jailed.

=====

Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-
constitution-conviction

Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT.
WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be convicted of
felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...

COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?

YES.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM
HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Alan
2024-11-12 03:24:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 09:18:43 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 09:02:47 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Tell that to CNN, who wrote it.
CNN can get it wrong.
Yes.
Post by Alan
The USSC HAS weighed in.
Not the point CNN, NOR I, were making. The point wasn't what the USSC did.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Donald Trump Faces Travel Ban To 37 Countries
his newfound felon status
STILL not a felon, dumb ass.
STILL not adjudicated, STILL not convicted.
Trump's two federal trials are also ON ICE. The judge in Florida overseeing the case in which federal prosecutors allege he mishandled
classified documents and tried to hide them from the National Archives HAS PROCEEDED VERY SLOWLY AND HAS ALLOWED PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS TO
PILE UP. The trial is CURRENTLY POSTPONED INDEFINITELY.
AND he's still to be adjudicated on the jury's decisions against him.
What are you pretending that means.
The jury found him GUILTY.
That is what being convicted IS.
It will be overturned.
Until it is, he's convicted.
And still not a convicted felon.
The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".
I've shown you the links to NY State law and the parts of it that
describe SPECIFICALLY things that happen before sentencing, but after
conviction.
AlleyCat
2024-11-12 03:58:34 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:24:48 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".
I've shown you the links to NY State law and the parts of it that
describe SPECIFICALLY things that happen before sentencing, but after
conviction.
Non-sequitur.

PLONK!

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

=====

I've been advised to stay away from the weirdo of the Internet.

PLONK!

Alan Baker, The Creepy Internet Stalker!

MuahMan's profile photo
MuahMan
Feb 13, 2008, 12:19:48AM


to
Yikes. He's spent the last 48 hours researching me.

They should make internet stalking illegal, I think Alan Baker has had
practice researching the little kiddies he likes to molest.

Anyone thinking of hiring this internet stalker Alan Baker from Vancouver,
BC should certainly give him a psych eval. As according to this website
people that

stalk others on the internet more times than not leads to pedophilia. Alan
Baker is obviously bordering on or has become a child predator.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/internet-security090507.htm

Yikes. If something happens to me please make sure the local, and Canadian
police no that I was being stalked online by Alan Baker, A Macintosh bench
tech from Vancouver, BC.


Please post this every newsgroup so your children know to avoid him and thus
remove themselves from danger.

Alan Baker's profile photo
Alan Baker
Feb 13, 2008, 2:47:35AM


to
Post by Alan
Yikes. He's spent the last 48 hours researching me.
Nope. I took about 45 minutes.
Post by Alan
They should make internet stalking illegal, I think Alan Baker has had
practice researching the little kiddies he likes to molest.
People whose lives are so public shouldn't say things that could get
them sued.
Post by Alan
Anyone thinking of hiring this internet stalker Alan Baker from Vancouver,
BC should certainly give him a psych eval. As according to this website
people that
stalk others on the internet more times than not leads to pedophilia. Alan
Baker is obviously bordering on or has become a child predator.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/internet-security090507.htm
Or perhaps I should just inform the IRS about the possessions you've
bragged about to clear up that tax lien...

Did your mother, Patricia, even know that you had a federal tax lien
hanging over your head when she agreed to put you on the deed to her
home?
Post by Alan
Yikes. If something happens to me please make sure the local, and Canadian
police no that I was being stalked online by Alan Baker, A Macintosh bench
tech from Vancouver, BC.
Please post this every newsgroup so your children know to avoid him and thus
remove themselves from danger.
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

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MuahMan
Feb 13, 2008, 2:55:05AM


to
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Yikes. He's spent the last 48 hours researching me.
Nope. I took about 45 minutes.
Post by AlleyCat
They should make internet stalking illegal, I think Alan Baker has had
practice researching the little kiddies he likes to molest.
People whose lives are so public shouldn't say things that could get
them sued.
Hire a lawyer and sue away. Two people can do research you sick perv.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Anyone thinking of hiring this internet stalker Alan Baker from
Vancouver,
BC should certainly give him a psych eval. As according to this website
people that
stalk others on the internet more times than not leads to pedophilia.
Alan
Baker is obviously bordering on or has become a child predator.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/internet-security090507.htm
Or perhaps I should just inform the IRS about the possessions you've
bragged about to clear up that tax lien...
www.irs.gov
Post by Alan
Did your mother, Patricia, even know that you had a federal tax lien
hanging over your head when she agreed to put you on the deed to her
home?
Do your parents know you harass elderly people at 1am and threaten to kill
them on the phone?
Seriously get over your obsession with me. Find a hobby and quit spending
day and night worrrying, stalking, and threatening my family.
Keep bothering my family and you'll have another restraining order against
you.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Yikes. If something happens to me please make sure the local, and
Canadian
police no that I was being stalked online by Alan Baker, A Macintosh
bench
tech from Vancouver, BC.
Please post this every newsgroup so your children know to avoid him and
thus
remove themselves from danger.
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Alan Baker's profile photo
Alan Baker
Feb 13, 2008, 2:59:07AM


to
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Yikes. He's spent the last 48 hours researching me.
Nope. I took about 45 minutes.
They should make internet stalking illegal, I think Alan Baker has had
practice researching the little kiddies he likes to molest.
People whose lives are so public shouldn't say things that could get
them sued.
Hire a lawyer and sue away. Two people can do research you sick perv.
LOL

I'm sure 'two people" can. You: no.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Anyone thinking of hiring this internet stalker Alan Baker from
Vancouver,
BC should certainly give him a psych eval. As according to this website
people that
stalk others on the internet more times than not leads to pedophilia.
Alan
Baker is obviously bordering on or has become a child predator.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/internet-security090507.htm
Or perhaps I should just inform the IRS about the possessions you've
bragged about to clear up that tax lien...
www.irs.gov
Is that an invitation?
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Did your mother, Patricia, even know that you had a federal tax lien
hanging over your head when she agreed to put you on the deed to her
home?
Do your parents know you harass elderly people at 1am and threaten to kill
them on the phone?
Seriously get over your obsession with me. Find a hobby and quit spending
day and night worrrying, stalking, and threatening my family.
Keep bothering my family and you'll have another restraining order against
you.
I've never bothered anyone, Pratt-fall. Not even you. I've just found
out a few facts.

But say, "Uncle" and I'll stop posting 'em.

:-)


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MuahMan
Feb 13, 2008, 3:05:31AM


to

"Alan Baker" <***@telus.net> wrote in message news:alangbaker-***@...


I believe that's a website.
I didn't invite you to call my grandparents at all hours of the night that
sure didn't stop you.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Did your mother, Patricia, even know that you had a federal tax lien
hanging over your head when she agreed to put you on the deed to her
home?
Do your parents know you harass elderly people at 1am and threaten to
kill
them on the phone?
Seriously get over your obsession with me. Find a hobby and quit spending
day and night worrrying, stalking, and threatening my family.
Keep bothering my family and you'll have another restraining order
against
you.
I've never bothered anyone, Pratt-fall. Not even you. I've just found
out a few facts.
But say, "Uncle" and I'll stop posting 'em.
You're not capable of bothering me. However when you bother my elderly
grandparents and get family involved you are crossing the line from online
weirdo, to complete psycho that needs help. You even stated it was fun
earlier finding personal information on people online. If your life really
that void. Perhaps instead of souring website after website trying to verify
if I have this motorcycle or that car, or that house you should get involved
in your own life. This sort of behavior has burned you before and left you
so you are unemployable and must work fixing computers for a living. You
should have learned your lesson the first time.
Alan
2024-11-12 04:12:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:24:48 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".
I've shown you the links to NY State law and the parts of it that
describe SPECIFICALLY things that happen before sentencing, but after
conviction.
Non-sequitur.
PLONK!
Run away little, Pussey!
AlleyCat
2024-11-12 16:16:54 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:12:06 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Non-sequitur.
PLONK!
Run away little, Pussey!
OK... no gay cooties from you.

Try again?
Post by Alan
Until it is, he's convicted.
And still not a convicted felon.

The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".

Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt.

See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.

Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT a convicted felon. Doesn't REALLY
matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE
HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN NEW YORK, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

=============================================================================

Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-
verdict-conviction-rcna154801

May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money
conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.

=====

Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-
matters/index.html

May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald
Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business records, the next obvious
question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?

The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential
candidates. They must:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY -

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/donald-
trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/

May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president convicted of a
crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN.
His conviction on Thursday does not bar him from ...

=====

Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-
happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-cohen-
daniels/73920427007/

May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S.
Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after they become a
felon. The only qualifications are the following:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-
charges-voters-indictment

Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's
nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with criminal records from
holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...

=====

What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME

https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/

May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will
not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential campaign, even if he were
jailed.

=====

Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-
constitution-conviction

Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT.
WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be convicted of
felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...

COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?

YES.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM
HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Siri Cruise
2024-11-11 01:16:50 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
Trump's two federal trials are also ON ICE. The judge in Florida overseeing the case in which federal prosecutors allege he mishandled
classified documents and tried to hide them from the National Archives HAS PROCEEDED VERY SLOWLY AND HAS ALLOWED PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS TO
PILE UP. The trial is CURRENTLY POSTPONED INDEFINITELY. In the federal election subversion case in Washington, DC, the Supreme Court has
yet to weigh in on whether Trump should enjoy immunity from prosecution as a former president.
Now that courts have decided presidents can do whatever they want
with national secrets, I wonder how many secrets other countries
will share with us.
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Mitchell Holman
2024-11-11 02:54:09 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by AlleyCat
Trump's two federal trials are also ON ICE. The judge in Florida
overseeing the case in which federal prosecutors allege he mishandled
classified documents and tried to hide them from the National
Archives HAS PROCEEDED VERY SLOWLY AND HAS ALLOWED PROCEDURAL
QUESTIONS TO PILE UP. The trial is CURRENTLY POSTPONED INDEFINITELY.
In the federal election subversion case in Washington, DC, the
Supreme Court has yet to weigh in on whether Trump should enjoy
immunity from prosecution as a former president.
Now that courts have decided presidents can do whatever they want
with national secrets, I wonder how many secrets other countries
will share with us.
Trump is an open conduit to Moscow,
no world leader will trust him.




Moscow Already 'Studying' Top-Secret
Records From Trump Raid: Russian Media
8/13/22

Hosts on Russia's state-owned Russia-1
television channel said that officials
in Moscow have already been "studying"
top secret and other classified documents
the FBI sought through a search warrant
of former President Donald Trump's
Mar-a-Lago resort home.

Russia-1 reported on the raid in a
segment shared to Twitter late Friday
evening by Julia Davis, a columnist for
The Daily Beast and the creator of the
Russian Media Monitor. During the segment,
state-run television host Evgeny Popov
mentioned the reporting about nuclear
weapons.

"Turns out that the investigation
against Trump has to do with the
disappearance of secret documents from
the White House, related to the
development of nuclear weapons by the
U.S.," Popov said. "The FBI isn't
saying what kinds of weapons, or what
they found in Trump's estate. Obviously,
if there were any important documents,
they've been studying them in Moscow for
a while."

"What's the point of searching?" Popov
then asked, suggesting that protecting
the classified information was already a
useless endeavor.
https://tinyurl.com/2s4h2vz7
AlleyCat
2024-11-11 06:58:05 UTC
Permalink
LOL... Only Faggots On The Left STILL Believe This Shit - And THAT'S Why They Lost - Article Is TWO Years Old and Trump Is STILL Not In
Prison for This OBVIOUS Act of Espionage?

On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 02:54:09 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...
Post by Mitchell Holman
Trump is an open conduit to Moscow,
no world leader will trust him.
You STILL believe CNN and MSNBC lies? Wow... I usually PLONK! stupidity and delusion, but you may offer us more than those others I've
already PLONKED!... humour.

LOL... please do... keep up your delusions.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Moscow Already 'Studying' Top-Secret
Records From Trump Raid: Russian Media
8/13/22
Published Aug 13, 2022

And THEN what happened?

NO THING.

LOL... and no one has ever heard of propaganda. The Russians and Putin are laughing at your naiveté'.

Notice NO ONE says WHICH documents the Russians are supposedly "studying".

I swear, you faggots on the left are a joke. You believed CNN's and MSNBC's lies on RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA, and now you're choosing to
believe Russian propaganda.

Putin's laughing at you, dick-suckers.

Please... find WHICH documents they're "studying".

Hosts on Russia's state-owned Russia-1 television channel said that officials in Moscow have already been 'studying" top secret and other
classified documents the FBI sought through a search warrant of former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort home. Russia-1 reported
on the raid in a segment SHARED TO TWITTER (LOL) late Friday evening by Julia Davis, A COLUMNIST FOR THE DAILY BEAST AND THE CREATOR OF THE
RUSSIAN MEDIA MONITOR (LOL). During the segment, state-run television host Evgeny Popov mentioned the reporting about nuclear weapons.

LOL.. Russia has JUST as good nuclear "weapons" as us... they don't NEED our "secrets".

"Turns out that the investigation against Trump has to do with the disappearance of secret documents from the White House, related to the
development of nuclear weapons by the U.S.," Popov said. "The FBI isn't saying what kinds of weapons, or what they found in Trump's estate.
Obviously, if there were any important documents, they've been studying them in Moscow for a while." "What's the point of searching?" Popov
then asked, suggesting that protecting the classified information was already a useless endeavor.

Yeah, and as soon as this bullshit was written, ALL of the alphabet agencies went into full alert and arrested Trump for espionage... oh
wait... they didn't.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Skeeter
2024-11-11 13:47:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 14:37:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...
Donald Trump Faces Travel Ban To 37 Countries
his newfound felon status
STILL not a felon, dumb ass.
STILL not adjudicated, STILL not convicted.
Absolutely a convicted felon.
Gonna get tossed out.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Trump's two federal trials are also ON ICE. The judge in Florida
overseeing the case in which federal prosecutors allege he
mishandled classified documents and tried to hide them from the
National Archives HAS PROCEEDED VERY SLOWLY AND HAS ALLOWED
PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS TO PILE UP. The trial is CURRENTLY POSTPONED
INDEFINITELY. In the federal election subversion case in Washington,
DC, the Supreme Court has yet to weigh in on whether Trump should
enjoy immunity from prosecution as a former president.
Also false.
Alan
2024-11-11 17:19:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 14:37:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...
Donald Trump Faces Travel Ban To 37 Countries
his newfound felon status
STILL not a felon, dumb ass.
STILL not adjudicated, STILL not convicted.
Absolutely a convicted felon.
Gonna get tossed out.
So no one is ever convicted unless their case has been appealed all the
way to the USSC and denied?
AlleyCat
2024-11-11 18:45:39 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 09:19:42 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 14:37:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...
Donald Trump Faces Travel Ban To 37 Countries
his newfound felon status
STILL not a felon, dumb ass.
STILL not adjudicated, STILL not convicted.
Absolutely a convicted felon.
Gonna get tossed out.
So, he'll NEVER be a convicted felon.
Post by Alan
So no one is ever convicted unless their case has been appealed all the
way to the USSC and denied?
Doesn't HAVE to go to the USSC.

The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".

Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt.

See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.

Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT a convicted felon. Doesn't REALLY
matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE
HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN NEW YORK, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

=============================================================================

Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-
verdict-conviction-rcna154801

May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money
conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.

=====

Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-
matters/index.html

May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald
Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business records, the next obvious
question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?

The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential
candidates. They must:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY -

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/donald-
trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/

May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president convicted of a
crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN.
His conviction on Thursday does not bar him from ...

=====

Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-
happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-cohen-
daniels/73920427007/

May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S.
Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after they become a
felon. The only qualifications are the following:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-
charges-voters-indictment

Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's
nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with criminal records from
holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...

=====

What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME

https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/

May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will
not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential campaign, even if he were
jailed.

=====

Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-
constitution-conviction

Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT.
WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be convicted of
felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...

COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?

YES.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM
HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Alan
2024-11-12 03:25:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 09:19:42 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 14:37:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...
Donald Trump Faces Travel Ban To 37 Countries
his newfound felon status
STILL not a felon, dumb ass.
STILL not adjudicated, STILL not convicted.
Absolutely a convicted felon.
Gonna get tossed out.
So, he'll NEVER be a convicted felon.
Post by Alan
So no one is ever convicted unless their case has been appealed all the
way to the USSC and denied?
Doesn't HAVE to go to the USSC.
The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".
Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt.
And I can point to a lot more lawyers who will tell you why that's nonsense.
AlleyCat
2024-11-12 03:58:35 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:25:28 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt.
And I can point to a lot more lawyers who will tell you why that's nonsense.
And they'll all be anti-Trump pansy-ass pussy whoring liberal defense lawyers.

But, then, again.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/RqJVa0fl01w

https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=RqJVa0fl01w

??????

PLONK!

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

============================================================================

Why Does Narcissistic Alan Need So Much Attention

Alan does anything possible to be the center of attention in his social-media circle. Whether Alan achieves this by lying, creating drama,
or striving for recognition, any type of attention can quench his thirst.

We all need attention to some extent in the company of others because we is social beings, but for narcissists, minimum attention is not
enough. Alan has a deeper hunger for it. Alan feels satisfied only when Alan is the center of attention.

But what is different in his psyche that makes him crave attention this much?

Whenever you see someone with an odd behaviour or personality, know that Alan is behaving that way in order to cover up or make up for an
existing shortcoming.

This applies to all people and mostly those with odd personalities, like Alan the narcissist. A lying person will try to look as innocent
as possible. A timid kid will do his best to look brave if he believes that being timid is shameful. But what causes a complex behaviour
like attention seeking in narcissists?



1. Alan Believes That He Deserves It

Narcissists, like Alan, consider themselves above average, living in the middle of incompetent and below average people. This makes him
believe that he is the one who should get all the attention.

Once this belief is fixed, Alan must fiercely work hard to maintain the clues that support it. If Alan finds himself in a situation where
he is not the center of attention, this would suggest that he is not that special. This can badly hurt his fragile ego.

In other words Alan needs so much attention because he is afraid to be considered average.

However, the belief Alan holds about attention-seeking can play a big role. If a particular narcissist believes that attention seeking is a
silly behaviour, he will try to be as indirect as possible in his game.
GIVING UP ATTENTION IS NOT AN OPTION.



2. It Is A Source of Narcissistic Supply

Narcissistic supply involves, projecting larger-than-life qualities to the public or selected individuals in order to get positive
feedback. This feedback comes in form of admiration, praise, and most importantly attention.

(Only to HIMSELF!)

Note that negative attention is also appreciated to some extent.

He would rather get negative attention that zero attention.

(BINGO!)

This narcissistic supply is the oxygen he breathes. Without it, he would sink into depression and bad moods.



3. To Cover Up Inferiority Feelings. (LOL)

The popular definition of narcissism says that, "behind the mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem (inferiority)." And that is
completely true. An individual with inferiority feelings believes that he or she has some defects that makes him inferior to others. These
defects can be real or imagined.

Narcissists, like Alan, fight to be the center of attention because in that situation, people would only focus on a particular positive
quality that he is trying to project, (being insulting for example). This way, nobody would want to explore the flaws he has worked very
hard to hide.

Even if Alan gets a negative attention through inappropriate behaviour, the goal is still the same. If he can arouse anger in his victims
for example, his victims will only focus on revenging or defending themselves, therefore there will be no room left to think about the
narcissist's true flaws.



4. He Feels Ignored. (ding ding ding ding... we have a winner!)

Feeling invisible is one of Alan's worst fears.

The problems happen when Alan feels ignored by the people in the most important areas of his social circle (on Usenet, for example). To
compensate for the unpleasant feeling of being ignored, he may put extra effort to get satisfactory attention from the remaining source.

For example: if Alan feels ignored, he may over-compensate by seeking more attention from Usenet perceived" enemies". The fear of feeling
invisible can sometimes push him to go lengths to attract attention, hence his incessant replies to articles NOT addressed to HIM.
Alan
2024-11-12 04:17:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:25:28 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt.
And I can point to a lot more lawyers who will tell you why that's nonsense.
And they'll all be anti-Trump pansy-ass pussy whoring liberal defense lawyers.
But Rubenfeld is the soul of impartiality is he?

LOL!
Post by AlleyCat
But, then, again.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/RqJVa0fl01w
https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=RqJVa0fl01w
??????
PLONK!
Run away, little man!
AlleyCat
2024-11-12 15:17:39 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:17:25 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
And they'll all be anti-Trump pansy-ass pussy whoring liberal defense lawyers.
But Rubenfeld is the soul of impartiality is he?
LOL!
You laughing means you know he's not impartial.

Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.

If you don't, don't EVER tell me *I* have to prove ANY of mine.

PLONK!

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Alan
2024-11-12 17:16:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:17:25 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
And they'll all be anti-Trump pansy-ass pussy whoring liberal defense lawyers.
But Rubenfeld is the soul of impartiality is he?
LOL!
You laughing means you know he's not impartial.
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
If you don't, don't EVER tell me *I* have to prove ANY of mine.
PLONK!
Wow.

You don't know what "PLONK" OR "impartial" means?

:-)
AlleyCat
2024-11-13 05:34:30 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 09:16:51 -0800, Alan says...

kerplunk
plunk
kerplop
kersplat! (you'll know that one if you're ever played Croc with your children... I did, perpetual "bachelor" [snicker])

kaplunk
clonk
bonk
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
But Rubenfeld is the soul of impartiality is he?
LOL!
You laughing means you know he's not impartial.
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.

Bawk bawk baKAWK!

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Alan
2024-11-15 02:21:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 09:16:51 -0800, Alan says...
kerplunk
plunk
kerplop
kersplat! (you'll know that one if you're ever played Croc with your children... I did, perpetual "bachelor" [snicker])
http://youtu.be/zuOVACCCJ_A
kaplunk
clonk
bonk
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
But Rubenfeld is the soul of impartiality is he?
LOL!
You laughing means you know he's not impartial.
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
Wow. You're really quite dim.
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 05:33:05 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:21:18 -0800, Alan says...

2.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
Wow. You're really quite dim.
Wow. You replied to this request twice? Why?

1.
Post by Alan
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
If you don't, don't EVER tell me *I* have to prove ANY of mine.
PLONK!
Wow. You don't know what "PLONK" OR "impartial" means?
:-)

No proof or refutation, noted... thank you.

PLONK!

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Alan
2024-11-15 07:15:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:21:18 -0800, Alan says...
2.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
Wow. You're really quite dim.
Wow. You replied to this request twice? Why?
1.
Post by Alan
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
If you don't, don't EVER tell me *I* have to prove ANY of mine.
PLONK!
Wow. You don't know what "PLONK" OR "impartial" means?
:-)
No proof or refutation, noted... thank you.
PLONK!
And you still haven't figured it out.

:-)
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 14:50:35 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:15:21 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:21:18 -0800, Alan says...
2.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
Wow. You're really quite dim.
Wow. You replied to this request twice? Why?
1.
Post by Alan
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
If you don't, don't EVER tell me *I* have to prove ANY of mine.
PLONK!
Wow. You don't know what "PLONK" OR "impartial" means?
:-)
No proof or refutation, noted... thank you.
PLONK!
And you still haven't figured it out.
[giggle

PLONK!

(because he hates it that I won't play his stupid childish narcissistic games)

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

===========================================================================================================================

Why Do People With Narcissistic Personality Disorder Play Games?

At times, it may appear that the goal of someone living with NPD is to get their needs met, which may involve other people who consciously
and unconsciously help them achieve that end, says Dena DiNardo, PhD, a clinical psychologist in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

"These 'games' are strategic manipulations," she adds. "Often, they're completely unconscious. People having trouble with this level of
narcissism are usually in such deep pain that their ability to empathetically connect with the pain of others is low."

What games do people with narcissistic personality disorder play?

Those who live with NPD often HAVE LOW SELF-ESTEEM.

As a result, many games they play may revolve around maintaining a sense of control, so they don't have to be confronted with the shame
that they may feel inside.

This is why Ski Bunny can't post his own shit.

"People with narcissistic personality disorder tend to use strategies to gain power and control over the individual in order to assert
superiority and/or dominance over them," says Rahmah Albugami, a licensed professional counselor in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. "In this way,
they get their needs met TO BOOST THEIR EGOS, VALUE, AND SELF-ESTEEM."

Poor Ski Bunny. :-(

Some common games someone with narcissistic personality disorder might engage in include:

blame shifting
deception
gaslighting
ghosting
playing the victim
projection

While these games may be common for someone with NPD, not everyone who plays them will have this condition or another personality disorder.

How can you recognize when games are being played?

Becoming more familiar with these games may help you spot them in action and set appropriate personal boundaries.

Gaslighting:

Gaslighting refers to denying the truth of a situation as you saw or heard it, which can confuse your sense of reality. They may be trying
to avoid getting caught for something by turning it back around on you.

"One of the most common things to look out for are if you're constantly questioning yourself," says Albugami.

Revenge:

Having a fragile sense of self is not uncommon for someone with NPD.

If you call them out on their behaviors, it may create a narcissistic rage or injury. Rather than sit with the difficult emotion and self-
reflect, they may instead externalize the agony they feel in the form of revenge.
Alan
2024-11-15 17:12:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:15:21 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:21:18 -0800, Alan says...
2.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
Wow. You're really quite dim.
Wow. You replied to this request twice? Why?
1.
Post by Alan
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
If you don't, don't EVER tell me *I* have to prove ANY of mine.
PLONK!
Wow. You don't know what "PLONK" OR "impartial" means?
:-)
No proof or refutation, noted... thank you.
PLONK!
And you still haven't figured it out.
[giggle
PLONK!
(because he hates it that I won't play his stupid childish narcissistic games)
Says the guy who had to reply to the same post twice.
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 19:08:25 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:12:00 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:15:21 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:21:18 -0800, Alan says...
2.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
Wow. You're really quite dim.
Wow. You replied to this request twice? Why?
1.
Post by Alan
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
If you don't, don't EVER tell me *I* have to prove ANY of mine.
PLONK!
Wow. You don't know what "PLONK" OR "impartial" means?
:-)
No proof or refutation, noted... thank you.
PLONK!
And you still haven't figured it out.
[giggle
PLONK!
(because he hates it that I won't play his stupid childish narcissistic games)
Says the guy who had to reply to the same post twice.
Seems I'm not the only one doing that.

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 19:08:36 UTC
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:12:00 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:15:21 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:21:18 -0800, Alan says...
2.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
Wow. You're really quite dim.
Wow. You replied to this request twice? Why?
1.
Post by Alan
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
If you don't, don't EVER tell me *I* have to prove ANY of mine.
PLONK!
Wow. You don't know what "PLONK" OR "impartial" means?
:-)
No proof or refutation, noted... thank you.
PLONK!
And you still haven't figured it out.
[giggle
PLONK!
(because he hates it that I won't play his stupid childish narcissistic games)
Says the guy who had to reply to the same post twice.
Seems I'm not the only one doing that.

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Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 19:08:47 UTC
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:12:00 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:15:21 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:21:18 -0800, Alan says...
2.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
Wow. You're really quite dim.
Wow. You replied to this request twice? Why?
1.
Post by Alan
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
If you don't, don't EVER tell me *I* have to prove ANY of mine.
PLONK!
Wow. You don't know what "PLONK" OR "impartial" means?
:-)
No proof or refutation, noted... thank you.
PLONK!
And you still haven't figured it out.
[giggle
PLONK!
(because he hates it that I won't play his stupid childish narcissistic games)
Says the guy who had to reply to the same post twice.
Seems I'm not the only one doing that.

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Alan
2024-11-15 19:19:11 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:12:00 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:15:21 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:21:18 -0800, Alan says...
2.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
Wow. You're really quite dim.
Wow. You replied to this request twice? Why?
1.
Post by Alan
Prove his impartiality. Your claim, not mine, so YOU have to prove it.
If you don't, don't EVER tell me *I* have to prove ANY of mine.
PLONK!
Wow. You don't know what "PLONK" OR "impartial" means?
:-)
No proof or refutation, noted... thank you.
PLONK!
And you still haven't figured it out.
[giggle
PLONK!
(because he hates it that I won't play his stupid childish narcissistic games)
Says the guy who had to reply to the same post twice.
Seems I'm not the only one doing that.
Nope.

You're rage posting...

...and I'm assuming it's because you're day-drinking.

:-)
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 20:07:08 UTC
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:19:11 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Seems I'm not the only one doing that.
Nope.
You're rage posting...
Uhhh... what do *I* have to rage about?

Life is GOOD!

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

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And I don't drink, stupid.

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Why Alan Is Alan

There are many similarities between the way Alan the narcissist thinks and processes things and the way children do. In fact, in many ways,
these processes are virtually identical. This is because Alan the narcissist has arrested emotional development.

The emotional maturation that most children go through did not occur within Alan, for whatever reason. Often, this reason is abuse or
neglect during childhood.

These things caused Alan to focus intensely on himself, to the exclusion of all other things. It also results in the mind being taken up
with trying to defend itself from his abuse.

Alan's mind is, in a sense, always playing catch up, and because of the trauma that he has experienced, some things are skipped, so to
speak, or don't happen.

(see Alan's separation from reality)

His mind becomes locked in a pattern of defensive reaction and emotional perception, made up of many different but related facets, that
matures extremely slowly and is extrordinarily resistant to change. We call this reaction/defense pattern malignant narcissism.

In children, these things are normal. In Alan, they are evidence of a disorder.

Young children and babies are not capable of understanding the emotions or needs of others. They only know want and need. They have no way
of taking care of their own needs, and they can only scream for someone to do it for them. When Alan's mother was exhausted and deathly ill
with a fever and vomiting, and she'd been up for three days, and she simply could not cope anymore, does Alan sympathize accordingly? Does
Alan stop crying?

No. Alan does not recognize this. Alan does not care. Alan can NOT care. He can only keep screaming out his needs, regardless of his
mother's suffering.

This is, in essence, what you are dealing with when it comes to Alan the narcissist. He does not recognize, understand or consider other
people's needs.

He sees only his own, and his inability to meet them. The more damaged Alan is, the more narcissistic he will be, the more immature he will
be and the more childish his way of thinking.

And this is not childish as in, silly. This is immature as in, the emotional maturity and understanding of a toddler.

For example, besides the hysterical tantrum behavior we see in Alan that is very clearly on par with a very young child's, Alan the
narcissist generally believes he is immune to the things that happen to "regular" people.

This is an example of something called magical thinking which is a phenomenon we commonly see in very young children. Alan sees feelings as
facts, the way that children do. Alan the narcissist sees everything in the world as an extension of himself, the way that children do and
Alan the narcissist truly believes in his own perceived omnipresence and immortality as children do.

He has always been, he will always be.

So children believe... so Alan the narcissist believes.

The view that he is just another person that must fit into a wider world does not occur to young children.

How could it? Rather, Alan functions under the assumption that the world fits around HIM, and that everything he experiences or encounters
is related to him in some form.

This is the same way Alan see things. He has never matured past this extremely immature way of looking at things. The idea that the world
does not revolve around them never occurs to children, as it does not occur to Alan.

For example, children view their parents as only having to do with them and connected only to them, rather than as separate people with
their own lives, needs, wants, feelings, etc. Parents are very one dimensional to young children; despite the fact that children are only
one part of the parent's life, the child does not see this nor understand it in any way.

To a child, parents only exist as their caretakers. It is the only context children view parents in and the only context they can
understand. This is identical to how Alan the narcissist views all other people: outside of the narcissist and the narcissist's needs,
these people do not exist.

As children mature, they learn that this viewpoint is not true; they learn to see and appreciate their parents as individuals that are
separate from themselves. Alan does not.

The development of Alan is so arrested that this, coupled with such extreme self-focus means he is never able to separate himself as an
authentic individual from the external world.

Because of this, Alan often feels acted upon by the world and other people or circumstances, rather than as people who act in the world.

In Alan's view, he does not act, but rather react to the things that are being done to him. It's as if he never outgrew the idea of himself
as a powerless child, unable to take control or ownership of his own life.

He behaves as though other people are still responsible for his emotions, the way that parents are responsible for a small child. He seems
unable to own his choices or even to recognize that things are choices. And this is also like a child.

Alan the narcissist is generally impulsive, irrational and extremely immature. He is careless, irresponsible and foolhardy. He doesn't seem
able to consider consequences or think about things before he does them, just like a child.

When pressed for an answer as to why he's done something, Alan may seem just as mystified as everyone else. "I don't know" is a very common
answer. It may be the truth. He seems to possess very little insight as to why he does things, simply reacting on impulse as we see
children do.

Like a child, Alan often feels helpless in a world of more powerful, more competent, more knowledgeable adults.

However, this is also an excuse. It's easier to be a helpless victim. If you are a victim, you can never be blamed. If you are helpless,
you can never be forced to take responsibility.

Children are not blamed for not controlling themselves or for their choices. Alan doesn't seem to feel he should be either. He doesn't seem
to understand the difference between a child and an adult, and he will often say things to that effect. These are mostly things that no
self-respecting mature adult would ever say.

*PUSSEY!*

He may compare himself to a child, compete with the children, or complain that his spouse (LOL) holds "double standards" because the kids
are allowed to get away with things that they are called out for. Alan doesn't seem to realize that adults and children are held to
different standards, or why this should be.

For example, the narcissist must be asked repeatedly every single night to bring their plate into the kitchen, or throw their clothing in
the hamper rather than leaving these things on the ground. Instead of simply doing it, the narcissist responds that little Johnny never
does it either but he doesn't get yelled at. Little Johnny is seven. The narcissist is 40 and is one of Little Johnny's parents.

The discrepancy here is obvious; this is the type of response you would receive from a child that does not want to do his chores, not an
adult. To the narcissist, this is a clear example of favoritism and being attacked for who they are. It does not seem to enter Alan's mind
that there is a very large difference between a 7-year-old and a 40-year-old. Regardless of whether or not he actually feels this way, the
childishness and absurdity of his argument is really unbelievable-almost shocking in it's ignorance. There is not only the complete refusal
to behave as an adult, there is an inability to even understand why this would be expected.

The truth is, underneath of all of the horrible things Alan does, the narcissist is still that 5-year-old child pretending he is somebody
else to escape an abusive situation that ended years ago. When all of Alan's reasoning is examined, when all of Alan's behavior is
scrutinized and looked at through the lens of perspective rather than pain, this is what we are left with: a person with the emotional
maturity of a toddler who cannot understand why they are expected to behave otherwise and who is trying desperately to pretend they are
somebody else.

All of Alan's attention seeking, all of Alan's manipulations, all of Alan's gas lighting, all of Alan's smear campaigns, all of Alan's
abuse, all of the hurtful things he does, when seen for what they really are, these things are nothing but childish behaviors that have
been perpetrated by an adult.

Every single one of these things is seen in children. Gas-lighting is a 3 year old with chocolate all over his face who is hiding the
chocolate bar behind his back in plain view, saying "What chocolate, Mommy? I don't have chocolate." Smear campaigns are a 6-year-old
telling lies about a girl to all that girl's friends so they won't like her anymore. Though these behaviors are sometimes seen as
sophisticated schemes, they really aren't. They are the same childish and petty things we all dealt with on the elementary school
playground. They are just more confusing and therefore more dangerous because they are coming from an adult.
AlleyCat
2024-11-15 14:50:37 UTC
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:15:21 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
No proof or refutation, noted... thank you.
PLONK!
And you still haven't figured it out.
Ohhhh, yes I have.

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What Happens When I Expose Narcissists?

What happens when the narcissist knows you know their secret?

Typically, they perceive criticisms as dangerous threats and lash out at the messenger.

Why do they behave this way? Typically, NPD is rooted in deep-seated childhood stress.

When someone with the disorder senses that a Usenet enemy sees them as something less than perfect, the realization triggers loneliness and
abandonment daggers, which immediately prompts them to throw up emotional shields and fight back.

In nearly all cases, the first thing they'll do is move to invalidate the person confronting them.

Loser.
Pussey.
Coward.
Running away.

From there, it can go several ways, depending on the surroundings and other mitigating factors.

How Will a Narcissist React if He Knows That He Is Losing Control Over You?

Narcissists don't relinquish control easily.

They stalk until you give in. LOL... never.

They're hardwired to resist subversion at all costs, resulting in the ultimate "dish it but can't take it" personality.

Moreover, they live in fabricated worlds guided by delusion. "Truth" becomes a subjective concept when dealing with a narcissist. They may
not even realize they're lying.

(BINGO!)

So how does a narcissist act when found out? In many instances, they'll:

Deploy threats
Step up manipulation and charm :-)
Give you the silent treatment - LOL ALAN! Psssh.
Gossip about you and smear your name - That's Rudy's domain.

Stalk you

DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!

Poke and provoke you in an attempt to break your confidence

Coward.
Run away!
Loser.

Actions To Take When the Narcissist Knows You Have Figured Him Out

There are several things you can do to prepare yourself for the wrath of a narcissist. But remember that some NPD patients are more
dangerous than others, which may require further protective action.

Ignore Them

PLONK!

Don't Fall for the Charm Offensive

Steel yourself against the charm offensive! It may sound counterintuitive, but many narcissists will dial up the magnetism when they feel
threatened. Their minds fear abandonment, so they do what they must to keep people around.

This tactic works very well on people who crave validation in the form of companionship. If that's you, prep doubly hard for the
confrontation.

Set Boundaries

No games, narc-nerd.

Whether personally or professionally, setting boundaries is always a good idea, and it's downright essential when dealing with a narcissist
- especially if you're bringing them information or news that challenges their inflated sense of self.

Before going in, write down your boundaries. Mull them over. Commit to them. When the time comes, you'll be able to access them more
readily.

Don't Blame Yourself

Ha! Never.

Narcissists are master manipulators with a talent for spinning situations and blaming everyone else for their misdeeds. Often, they use the
people in their lives as projection dumpsters. So before you confront one with something difficult, gird yourself!

Because they will try to flip the script and cast you in the role of malcontent. Don't fall for it. Don't let them weasel their way into
your sanity.

Tell Other Usenetters

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