Trump's Tariffs Work and Bullshit Liberal Semantics

[AlleyCat]

Tariffs ON China and Mexico will pay for things.

LOL... liberals are still playing the bullshit liberal semantics game.

Tariffs on China and Mexico is short for products made IN China and IN Mexico.

So, it matters not WHO actually "pays" the tariffs. The tariffs are paid (or not) and that's exactly why they're levied.

You fucking faggots always forget one of my mantras... brevity is your friend. I'm not going to write "tariffs on Chinese or Mexican
goods" every time I want to convey anything about tariffs paying for something.

I WILL continue to say "tariffs on China and Mexico" whether you faggots like it or not.

See? When a liberal CAN'T argue a topic, they turn to minutiae and semantics to make themselves feel better about LOSING.

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by AlleyCat
Tariffs ON China and Mexico will pay for things.
LOL... liberals are still playing the bullshit liberal semantics game.
Tariffs on China and Mexico is short for products made IN China and IN Mexico.

Trump Bibles, Trump suits, Trump shirts,
Trump campaign banners, Trump watches.

Post by AlleyCat
So, it matters not WHO actually "pays" the tariffs.

It matters to the consumers who have
to pay the higher prices.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Tariffs ON China and Mexico will pay for things.
LOL... liberals are still playing the bullshit liberal semantics game.
Tariffs on China and Mexico is short for products made IN China and IN Mexico.

Trump Bibles, Trump suits, Trump shirts,
Trump campaign banners, Trump watches.

Post by AlleyCat
So, it matters not WHO actually "pays" the tariffs.

It matters to the consumers who have
to pay the higher prices.

The money collected will be given to whatever important blocs are
destroyed by counter-tariffs.

[Alan]

Post by AlleyCat
Tariffs ON China and Mexico will pay for things.

And now you're just making things up.

Let's look at your original comment on the subject:

When asked:

'A border wall.

1900 miles long.

At $20 million per mile.

And who is going to pay for that?'

You replied:

'Mexico and China.'

But you now admit that neither Mexico nor China will be paying a CENT.

But you're trying to pretend you meant something different all along.

Post by AlleyCat
LOL... liberals are still playing the bullshit liberal semantics game.
Tariffs on China and Mexico is short for products made IN China and IN Mexico.
So, it matters not WHO actually "pays" the tariffs. The tariffs are paid (or not) and that's exactly why they're levied.
You fucking faggots always forget one of my mantras... brevity is your friend. I'm not going to write "tariffs on Chinese or Mexican
goods" every time I want to convey anything about tariffs paying for something.
I WILL continue to say "tariffs on China and Mexico" whether you faggots like it or not.
See? When a liberal CAN'T argue a topic, they turn to minutiae and semantics to make themselves feel better about LOSING.
Trump WINS!
Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.
Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.
Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.
Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.
A Second Trump Administration

[AlleyCat]

On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:30:06 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
Tariffs ON China and Mexico will pay for things.

And now you're just making things up.
'A border wall.
1900 miles long.
At $20 million per mile.
And who is going to pay for that?'
'Mexico and China.'
But you now admit that neither Mexico nor China will be paying a CENT.

No... *I* didn't say that.

Post by Alan
But you're trying to pretend you meant something different all along.

Nope.

LOL... liberals are still playing the bullshit liberal semantics game.

Tariffs on China and Mexico is short for products made IN China and IN Mexico.

So, it matters not WHO actually "pays" the tariffs. The tariffs are paid (or not) and that's exactly why they're levied.

You fucking faggots always forget one of my mantras... brevity is your friend. I'm not going to write "tariffs on Chinese or Mexican
goods" every time I want to convey anything about tariffs paying for something.

I WILL continue to say "tariffs on China and Mexico" whether you faggots like it or not.

See? When a liberal CAN'T argue a topic, they turn to minutiae and semantics to make themselves feel better about LOSING.

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

[Alan]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:30:06 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
Tariffs ON China and Mexico will pay for things.

And now you're just making things up.
'A border wall.
1900 miles long.
At $20 million per mile.
And who is going to pay for that?'
'Mexico and China.'
But you now admit that neither Mexico nor China will be paying a CENT.

No... *I* didn't say that.

When asked who would be paying for "that" ("that" being a border wall,
1900 miles long at $20 million per mile, you answered:

'Mexico and China.'

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
But you're trying to pretend you meant something different all along.

Nope.
LOL... liberals are still playing the bullshit liberal semantics game.
Tariffs on China and Mexico is short for products made IN China and IN Mexico.
So, it matters not WHO actually "pays" the tariffs. The tariffs are paid (or not) and that's exactly why they're levied.

It does matter when the very question was WHO will be paying.

[AlleyCat]

On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:28:17 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
So, it matters not WHO actually "pays" the tariffs. The tariffs are paid (or not) and that's exactly why they're levied.

It does matter when the very question was WHO will be paying.

Is China a communist country?

China and Mexico WILL Pay

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

[Alan]

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:28:17 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
So, it matters not WHO actually "pays" the tariffs. The tariffs are paid (or not) and that's exactly why they're levied.

It does matter when the very question was WHO will be paying.

Is China a communist country?
China and Mexico WILL Pay

No. They won't.

Tariffs result in the American purchasers of Mexican and Chinese goods
paying.

Post by AlleyCat
=====
Trump WINS!
Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.
Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.
Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.
Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.
A Second Trump Administration

[AlleyCat]

On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 11:11:02 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
China and Mexico WILL Pay

No. They won't.

Yes... they will.

Post by Alan
Tariffs result in the American purchasers of Mexican and Chinese goods
paying.

So, WHY are they called tariffs ON China and Mexico and China Tariffs and Mexico tariffs?

Why aren't they called tariffs on Americans?

LOL... because Americans don't HAVE to buy their shit, therefore they don't HAVE to pay any extra money, so they're tariffs on CHINA and
MEXICO, not the American consumer... stupid.

China is a communist country, or at least we USED to say they were. Wiki calls them a "Unitary Marxist-Leninist one-party socialist
republic", but that's just a fancy way of saying communist.

And IF China is what I say it is... they pay the tariffs.

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Biden Finalizes Increases To Some Of Trump's CHINA TARIFFS

CHINA TARIFFS... not TARIFFS on CHINESE Goods

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/china-tariffs-biden-trump/index.html

Sep 13, 2024 - Trump implemented sweeping tariffs on about $300 billion of Chinese-made products when he was in office. President Joe Biden
has kept those tariffs in place and, after the USTR finished a ...

Why Biden is keeping Trump's CHINA TARIFFS in place

President Joe Biden has left tariffs in place on $350 billion of Chinese goods that were imposed by his predecessor. He suggested recently
that the reason is China's failure so far to meet its ...

After Trump unveiled his wide-ranging tariff policy, CHINA slapped tariffs, (NOT China's importers), on $101.4 billion in US exports,
retaliation that the Brookings Institute estimated affected 294,000 American export ...

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What CHINA TARIFFS mean for U.S. consumers, jobs : NPR

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/28/nx-s1-5089990/what-expected-tariffs-on-chinese-imports-may-mean-for-americans-and-their-jobs

Aug 28, 2024 - Biden's new tariffs ON CHINA range from 100% tariffs on electric vehicles to 50% on solar cells and 25% on aluminum and
steel products and respirators and face masks. Other hikes will go into ...

=====

What are Biden's new tariffs ON CHINA goods? | Reuters

https://www.reuters.com/world/what-are-bidens-new-tariffs-china-goods-2024-05-14/

May 14, 2024 - Purchase Licensing Rights. President Joe Biden is hiking tariffs on $18 billion in Chinese goods including electric
vehicles, batteries, semiconductors, steel, aluminum, critical minerals, solar ...

=====

Why Biden is keeping Trump's CHINA TARIFFS in place

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/26/politics/china-tariffs-biden-policy/index.html

Jan 26, 2022 - President Joe Biden has left tariffs in place on $350 billion of Chinese goods that were imposed by his predecessor. He
suggested recently that the reason is China's failure so far to meet its ...

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US locks in steep CHINA TARIFF hikes, some industries warn of ...

https://www.reuters.com/business/us-locks-steep-china-tariff-hikes-many-start-sept-27-2024-09-13/

Sep 14, 2024 - The Biden administration on Friday locked in steep tariff hikes on Chinese imports, including a 100% duty on electric
vehicles, to boost protections for strategic industries from China's state ...

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Tariffs are levied, then paid. Paid by "they". WHO is "they". No one EVER said China, the country, or Mexico, the country, will pay the
tariffs... did they?

"Drunk again, are we? THEY PAID TARIFFS! Read it again, doofus." (keyword: they)

THEY PAID TARIFFS!

"Proof of any country paying tariffs = ?????"

"They" is a country, now?

THEY PAID TARIFFS!

"No, they did not. Tariffs are not paid by the exporting country."

"They" is a country, now?

THEY PAID TARIFFS!
Read it again, doofus.

If by "they" you mean China and Mexico, you're simply and factually wrong. The IMPORTERS paid the tariffs.

If? Show me where I said "they" meant the COUNTRIES of China and Mexico. The tariffs levied on CHINA and MEXICO will pay for things. It
does
not MATTER that the COUNTRIES of China and Mexico pay out of their pockets or not... THEY are the ones who feel the sting, because the
tariffs are aimed AT their respective COUNTRIES, not exporters OR importers. THEY don't HAVE to pay, but China and Mexico WILL want those
goods sold so they can make more in taxes. What... you think China and Mexico don't give the importers/exporters subsidies to pay the
tariffs?

LOL

So naive.

The TARIFFS will pay for the wall and whatever we can find to charge...

https://i.imgur.com/WJ4945F.mp4

... for.

"Sorry, stupid liar. They paid tariffs. They'll pay again and the wall will go up."

Generalization.

https://i.imgur.com/3UzyIer.mp4

I am NOT going to write, "Tariffs on goods and commodities from China or Mexico", when I can write fewer words, moron. I have informed you
of this before.

(Latin Snipped for BREVITY)

Because Trump didn't hold your hand and tell you with a 1000 extra words (you know how he speaks... BREVITY, BREVITY,
BREVITY) that he was talking about the TV audience, you have to play your childish bullshit faggot troll games.

Do I really have to spell it out for you? Do you know what "BREVITY" means? Many outlets shorten titles by leaving out words, like 'the"
and
others. Here goes... pay attention.

It's not The DailyCaller's job to print all the studies they talk about. Remember that word, "BREVITY"?

Again, moron... I snip for BREVITY... and NOT to "hide" anything. What... you don't remember what you wrote? That's on you, failure-1.

When Cuntnadian can't refute, he HAS to bring it up that I snip. I snip for BREVITY (look it up, ski bunny kook), and SINCE he has no
refutation, he tries to make THAT an issue. Narcissistic nerds like that, need to have a psychiatrist look at them.

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I told you a million times, you fucking dork... I'm going to employ BREVITY... the headlines... what people NEED to know, if they WANT to
know, and not 129 pages of 'source".

If you don't like, tough shit.

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Trump WINS!

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Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

[Alan]

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 11:11:02 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
China and Mexico WILL Pay

No. They won't.

Yes... they will.

How will that happen?

How will money flow FROM China or Mexico into the coffers of the US
government to pay for a border wall?

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
Tariffs result in the American purchasers of Mexican and Chinese
goods paying.

So, WHY are they called tariffs ON China and Mexico and China
Tariffs and Mexico tariffs?
Why aren't they called tariffs on Americans?

Does that matter?

The point is that a tariff is paid by the IMPORTER...

...who passes that cost along.

Post by AlleyCat
LOL... because Americans don't HAVE to buy their shit, therefore
they don't HAVE to pay any extra money, so they're tariffs on CHINA
and MEXICO, not the American consumer... stupid.

Then no money will flow into US government accounts.

Post by AlleyCat
China is a communist country, or at least we USED to say they were.
Wiki calls them a "Unitary Marxist-Leninist one-party socialist
republic", but that's just a fancy way of saying communist.
And IF China is what I say it is... they pay the tariffs.

That's simply not what will happen.

Chinese goods will have tariffs imposed that must be paid by the IMPORTER.

Neither the Chinese government, nor any Chinese business, nor any
Chinese citizen will pay a dime.

[AlleyCat]

On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:25:11 -0800, Alan says...

Subject: Re: Trump's Tariffs Work and Bullshit Liberal Semantics
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 11:11:02 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
China and Mexico WILL Pay

No. They won't.

Yes... they will.

How will that happen?

Textbook - Economics 101 - University Of British Columbia

https://blogs.ubc.ca/econ101klw/textbook-2/

The textbook is available at the UBC Bookstore in three versions: Regular bound textbook packaged with MyEconLab (with e-text included) -
Package ISBN: 9780134136448 - Parkin/Bade, Microeconomics: Canada in the Global Environment Plus MyEconLab with Pearson eText" Price
$149.95. Looseleaf"

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Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

[Alan]

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:25:11 -0800, Alan says...

Subject: Re: Trump's Tariffs Work and Bullshit Liberal Semantics
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 11:11:02 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
China and Mexico WILL Pay

No. They won't.

Yes... they will.

How will that happen?

Textbook - Economics 101 - University Of British Columbia
https://blogs.ubc.ca/econ101klw/textbook-2/
Regular bound textbook packaged with MyEconLab (with e-text
included) - Package ISBN: 9780134136448 - Parkin/Bade,
Microeconomics: Canada in the Global Environment Plus MyEconLab with
Pearson eText" Price $149.95. Looseleaf"

So you have no actual answer.

Got it.

[AlleyCat]

On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:25:11 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 11:11:02 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
China and Mexico WILL Pay

No. They won't.

Yes... they will.

How will that happen?

It will happen.

Post by Alan
How will money flow FROM China or Mexico into the coffers of the US
government to pay for a border wall?

Have faith, Ski Bunny.

Trump: President
House: Republican
Senate: Republican

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
Tariffs result in the American purchasers of Mexican and Chinese
goods paying.

So, WHY are they called tariffs ON China and Mexico and China
Tariffs and Mexico tariffs?
Why aren't they called tariffs on Americans?

Does that matter?

Yes.

Post by Alan
The point is that a tariff is paid by the IMPORTER...
...who passes that cost along.

WHOSE importers?

China: Communist Country = Unitary Marxist-Leninist One-Party Socialist Republic

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
LOL... because Americans don't HAVE to buy their shit, therefore
they don't HAVE to pay any extra money, so they're tariffs on CHINA
and MEXICO, not the American consumer... stupid.

Then no money will flow into US government accounts.

Ohhhh, yes it will.

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
China is a communist country, or at least we USED to say they were.
Wiki calls them a "Unitary Marxist-Leninist one-party socialist
republic", but that's just a fancy way of saying communist.
And IF China is what I say it is... they pay the tariffs.

That's simply not what will happen.

Yes, it will.

Post by Alan
Chinese goods will have tariffs imposed that must be paid by the IMPORTER.

Importers?

WHOSE importers?

China: Communist Country = Unitary Marxist-Leninist One-Party Socialist Republic

If China no pay any money, why it called China tariff?

Post by Alan
Neither the Chinese government, nor any Chinese business, nor any
Chinese citizen will pay a dime.

So WHY is it called "China Tariff" and why China care if it no cost them a thing?

DO CHINESE SUPPLIERS BEAR THE COSTS OF U.S. TARIFFS?
"Chinese suppliers DO SHOULDER SOME OF THE COST OF U.S. TARIFFS in indirect ways." - Reuters

"Exporters sometimes, for instance, are forced to offer U.S. importers a discount to help defray the costs of higher U.S. duties."
- Reuters

So, your "nor any Chinese business... will pay a dime", is a lie.

=====

Biden Finalizes Increases To Some Of Trump's CHINA TARIFFS

CHINA TARIFFS... not TARIFFS on CHINESE Goods

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/china-tariffs-biden-trump/index.html

Sep 13, 2024 - Trump implemented sweeping tariffs on about $300 billion of Chinese-made products when he was in office. President Joe Biden
has kept those tariffs in place and, after the USTR finished a ...

Why Biden is keeping Trump's CHINA TARIFFS in place

President Joe Biden has left tariffs in place on $350 billion of Chinese goods that were imposed by his predecessor. He suggested recently
that the reason is China's failure so far to meet its ...

After Trump unveiled his wide-ranging tariff policy, CHINA slapped tariffs, (NOT China's importers), on $101.4 billion in US exports,
retaliation that the Brookings Institute estimated affected 294,000 American export ...

=====

What CHINA TARIFFS mean for U.S. consumers, jobs : NPR

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/28/nx-s1-5089990/what-expected-tariffs-on-chinese-imports-may-mean-for-americans-and-their-jobs

Aug 28, 2024 - Biden's new tariffs ON CHINA range from 100% tariffs on electric vehicles to 50% on solar cells and 25% on aluminum and
steel products and respirators and face masks. Other hikes will go into ...

=====

What are Biden's new tariffs ON CHINA goods? | Reuters

https://www.reuters.com/world/what-are-bidens-new-tariffs-china-goods-2024-05-14/

May 14, 2024 - Purchase Licensing Rights. President Joe Biden is hiking tariffs on $18 billion in Chinese goods including electric
vehicles, batteries, semiconductors, steel, aluminum, critical minerals, solar ...

=====

Why Biden is keeping Trump's CHINA TARIFFS in place

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/26/politics/china-tariffs-biden-policy/index.html

Jan 26, 2022 - President Joe Biden has left tariffs in place on $350 billion of Chinese goods that were imposed by his predecessor. He
suggested recently that the reason is China's failure so far to meet its ...

=====

US locks in steep CHINA TARIFF hikes, some industries warn of ...

https://www.reuters.com/business/us-locks-steep-china-tariff-hikes-many-start-sept-27-2024-09-13/

Sep 14, 2024 - The Biden administration on Friday locked in steep tariff hikes on Chinese imports, including a 100% duty on electric
vehicles, to boost protections for strategic industries from China's state ...

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

[Alan]

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:25:11 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 11:11:02 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
China and Mexico WILL Pay

No. They won't.

Yes... they will.

How will that happen?

It will happen.

So you say...

...but how will that actually work?

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
How will money flow FROM China or Mexico into the coffers of the US
government to pay for a border wall?

Have faith, Ski Bunny.
Trump: President
House: Republican
Senate: Republican

And that makes a difference...

...how?

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
Tariffs result in the American purchasers of Mexican and Chinese
goods paying.

So, WHY are they called tariffs ON China and Mexico and China
Tariffs and Mexico tariffs?
Why aren't they called tariffs on Americans?

Does that matter?

Yes.

Why?

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
The point is that a tariff is paid by the IMPORTER...
...who passes that cost along.

WHOSE importers?
China: Communist Country = Unitary Marxist-Leninist One-Party Socialist Republic

China doesn't import goods to the US, doofus.

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
LOL... because Americans don't HAVE to buy their shit, therefore
they don't HAVE to pay any extra money, so they're tariffs on CHINA
and MEXICO, not the American consumer... stupid.

Then no money will flow into US government accounts.

Ohhhh, yes it will.

How?

Show who will pay the money and to whom.

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
China is a communist country, or at least we USED to say they were.
Wiki calls them a "Unitary Marxist-Leninist one-party socialist
republic", but that's just a fancy way of saying communist.
And IF China is what I say it is... they pay the tariffs.

That's simply not what will happen.

Yes, it will.

How?

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
Chinese goods will have tariffs imposed that must be paid by the IMPORTER.

Importers?
WHOSE importers?
China: Communist Country = Unitary Marxist-Leninist One-Party Socialist Republic

China isn't an importer of goods to the US, doofus.

Post by AlleyCat
If China no pay any money, why it called China tariff?

Day drinking again?

You, YOURSELF, explain it is short hand for a tariff ON goods from China.

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
Neither the Chinese government, nor any Chinese business, nor any
Chinese citizen will pay a dime.

So WHY is it called "China Tariff" and why China care if it no cost them a thing?
DO CHINESE SUPPLIERS BEAR THE COSTS OF U.S. TARIFFS?
"Chinese suppliers DO SHOULDER SOME OF THE COST OF U.S. TARIFFS in indirect ways." - Reuters
"Exporters sometimes, for instance, are forced to offer U.S. importers a discount to help defray the costs of higher U.S. duties."
- Reuters
So, your "nor any Chinese business... will pay a dime", is a lie.

None of those indirect costs result in the US receiving any funds.

[AlleyCat]

On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:17:55 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:25:11 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 11:11:02 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
China and Mexico WILL Pay

No. They won't.

Yes... they will.

How will that happen?

It will happen.

So you say...
...but how will that actually work?

If you don't know: https://i.imgur.com/doR3Bya.mp4

If YOU know, why ask me?

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
How will money flow FROM China or Mexico into the coffers of the US
government to pay for a border wall?

Have faith, Ski Bunny.
Trump: President
House: Republican
Senate: Republican

And that makes a difference...
...how?

Pounds of flesh.

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
Tariffs result in the American purchasers of Mexican and Chinese
goods paying.

So, WHY are they called tariffs ON China and Mexico and China
Tariffs and Mexico tariffs?
Why aren't they called tariffs on Americans?

Does that matter?

Yes.

Why?

Damn dude... do you know ANYTHING?

If you don't know: https://i.imgur.com/doR3Bya.mp4

If YOU know, why ask me?

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
The point is that a tariff is paid by the IMPORTER...
...who passes that cost along.

WHOSE importers?
China: Communist Country = Unitary Marxist-Leninist One-Party Socialist Republic

China doesn't import goods to the US, doofus.

I know... those two sentiences weren't supposed to be together. I DO have a
life other than Usenet, so I write, do shit, come back.

But, now that you've opened that box... are ALL of the "importers" that import
CHINESE company's goods, American companies?

Don't worry... you don't have to answer that, because I know you won't,
KNOWING they all CAN'T be. LOL

Never thought of that, didja? I did AND looked it up, so I know YOU won't
address that. LOL

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
LOL... because Americans don't HAVE to buy their shit, therefore
they don't HAVE to pay any extra money, so they're tariffs on CHINA
and MEXICO, not the American consumer... stupid.

Then no money will flow into US government accounts.

Ohhhh, yes it will.

How?

Damn dude... do you know ANYTHING?

If you don't know: https://i.imgur.com/doR3Bya.mp4

If YOU know, why ask me?

https://i.imgur.com/rvyeHJ0.mp4

Post by Alan
Show who will pay the money and to whom.

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
China is a communist country, or at least we USED to say they were.
Wiki calls them a "Unitary Marxist-Leninist one-party socialist
republic", but that's just a fancy way of saying communist.
And IF China is what I say it is... they pay the tariffs.

That's simply not what will happen.

Yes, it will.

How?

Damn dude... do you know ANYTHING?

If you don't know: https://i.imgur.com/doR3Bya.mp4

If YOU know, why ask me?

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
Chinese goods will have tariffs imposed that must be paid by the IMPORTER.

Importers?
WHOSE importers?
China: Communist Country = Unitary Marxist-Leninist One-Party Socialist Republic

China isn't an importer of goods to the US, doofus.

I know... those two sentences weren't supposed to be together. I DO have a
life other than Usenet, so I write, do shit, come back.

But, now that you've opened that box... are ALL of the "importers" that import
CHINESE company's goods, American companies?

Don't worry... you don't have to answer that, because I know you won't,
KNOWING they all CAN'T be. LOL

Never thought of that, didja? I did AND looked it up, so I know YOU won't
address that. LOL

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
If China no pay any money, why it called China tariff?

Day drinking again?
You, YOURSELF, explain it is short hand for a tariff ON goods from China.

Yeah, but China pay money, too... indirectly. - Reuters

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
Neither the Chinese government, nor any Chinese business, nor any
Chinese citizen will pay a dime.

So WHY is it called "China Tariff" and WHY DOES CHINA CARE if it no cost them
a thing?

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
DO CHINESE SUPPLIERS BEAR THE COSTS OF U.S. TARIFFS?
"Chinese suppliers DO SHOULDER SOME OF THE COST OF U.S. TARIFFS in indirect ways." - Reuters
"Exporters sometimes, for instance, are forced to offer U.S. importers a discount to help defray the costs of higher U.S. duties."
- Reuters
So, your "nor any Chinese business... will pay a dime", is a lie.

None of those indirect costs result in the US receiving any funds.

So... you now admit China DOES "pay".

Thanks, for that.

LOL... you're kinda stupid, aren't you?

NO ONE said China's indirect costs go into the U.S.'s coffers.

Like I told the other faggot... the U.S. makes money on tariffs. Follow the
bouncing super-ball from China and see how much money that super-ball's cost
inflates.

You know how taxes work... right?

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=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala
Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024
election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20,
2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

[Alan]

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:17:55 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:25:11 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 11:11:02 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
China and Mexico WILL Pay

No. They won't.

Yes... they will.

How will that happen?

It will happen.

So you say...
...but how will that actually work?

If you don't know: https://i.imgur.com/doR3Bya.mp4
If YOU know, why ask me?

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
How will money flow FROM China or Mexico into the coffers of the US
government to pay for a border wall?

Have faith, Ski Bunny.
Trump: President
House: Republican
Senate: Republican

And that makes a difference...
...how?

Pounds of flesh.

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
Tariffs result in the American purchasers of Mexican and Chinese
goods paying.

So, WHY are they called tariffs ON China and Mexico and China
Tariffs and Mexico tariffs?
Why aren't they called tariffs on Americans?

Does that matter?

Yes.

Why?

Damn dude... do you know ANYTHING?
If you don't know: https://i.imgur.com/doR3Bya.mp4
If YOU know, why ask me?

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
The point is that a tariff is paid by the IMPORTER...
...who passes that cost along.

WHOSE importers?
China: Communist Country = Unitary Marxist-Leninist One-Party Socialist Republic

China doesn't import goods to the US, doofus.

I know... those two sentiences weren't supposed to be together. I DO have a
life other than Usenet, so I write, do shit, come back.
But, now that you've opened that box... are ALL of the "importers" that import
CHINESE company's goods, American companies?
Don't worry... you don't have to answer that, because I know you won't,
KNOWING they all CAN'T be. LOL
Never thought of that, didja? I did AND looked it up, so I know YOU won't
address that. LOL

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
LOL... because Americans don't HAVE to buy their shit, therefore
they don't HAVE to pay any extra money, so they're tariffs on CHINA
and MEXICO, not the American consumer... stupid.

Then no money will flow into US government accounts.

Ohhhh, yes it will.

How?

Damn dude... do you know ANYTHING?
If you don't know: https://i.imgur.com/doR3Bya.mp4
If YOU know, why ask me?
https://i.imgur.com/rvyeHJ0.mp4

Post by Alan
Show who will pay the money and to whom.

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
China is a communist country, or at least we USED to say they were.
Wiki calls them a "Unitary Marxist-Leninist one-party socialist
republic", but that's just a fancy way of saying communist.
And IF China is what I say it is... they pay the tariffs.

That's simply not what will happen.

Yes, it will.

How?

Damn dude... do you know ANYTHING?
If you don't know: https://i.imgur.com/doR3Bya.mp4
If YOU know, why ask me?

Because you're the one claiming that's what will happen.

So explain what you mean.

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
Chinese goods will have tariffs imposed that must be paid by the IMPORTER.

Importers?
WHOSE importers?
China: Communist Country = Unitary Marxist-Leninist One-Party Socialist Republic

China isn't an importer of goods to the US, doofus.

I know... those two sentences weren't supposed to be together. I DO have a
life other than Usenet, so I write, do shit, come back.
But, now that you've opened that box... are ALL of the "importers" that import
CHINESE company's goods, American companies?

It doesn't matter.

The point is the goods are imported and if there are tariffs, the
importer pays the tariffs.

Those importers are importing goods to lose money, so they're going to
pass on their increased costs to their customers...

...who are in the USA.

Post by AlleyCat
Don't worry... you don't have to answer that, because I know you won't,
KNOWING they all CAN'T be. LOL
Never thought of that, didja? I did AND looked it up, so I know YOU won't
address that. LOL

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
If China no pay any money, why it called China tariff?

Day drinking again?
You, YOURSELF, explain it is short hand for a tariff ON goods from China.

Yeah, but China pay money, too... indirectly. - Reuters

Nope. What Reuters said is that it will have a COST to China.

That is not the same as paying money TO the US.

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan
Neither the Chinese government, nor any Chinese business, nor any
Chinese citizen will pay a dime.

So WHY is it called "China Tariff" and WHY DOES CHINA CARE if it no cost them
a thing?

The subject under discussion is you claim that China and Mexico will
"pay" the US some or all of the cost of building a border wall.

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
DO CHINESE SUPPLIERS BEAR THE COSTS OF U.S. TARIFFS?
"Chinese suppliers DO SHOULDER SOME OF THE COST OF U.S. TARIFFS in indirect ways." - Reuters
"Exporters sometimes, for instance, are forced to offer U.S. importers a discount to help defray the costs of higher U.S. duties."
- Reuters
So, your "nor any Chinese business... will pay a dime", is a lie.

None of those indirect costs result in the US receiving any funds.

So... you now admit China DOES "pay".

In quotes? Sure.

To the United States funds that could be used to build a border wall?

Not at all.

Not a cent.

Post by AlleyCat
Thanks, for that.
LOL... you're kinda stupid, aren't you?
NO ONE said China's indirect costs go into the U.S.'s coffers.

You claimed they would be paying for border wall.

Post by AlleyCat
Like I told the other faggot... the U.S. makes money on tariffs. Follow the
bouncing super-ball from China and see how much money that super-ball's cost
inflates.

It makes that money FROM US companies and consumers.

Post by AlleyCat
You know how taxes work... right?

Indeed I do.

And neither China nor Mexico will send a cent into US government coffers
when tariffs are imposed.

[AlleyCat]

On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:20:11 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
But, now that you've opened that box... are ALL of the "importers" that import
CHINESE company's goods, American companies?

It doesn't matter.

No refutation.

PLONK!

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C.

A Second Trump Administration

[Alan]

Post by AlleyCat
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:20:11 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
But, now that you've opened that box... are ALL of the "importers" that import
CHINESE company's goods, American companies?

It doesn't matter.

No refutation.
PLONK!

There was refutation...

...but you snipped it...

...just like the coward you are.

[AlleyCat]

On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:27:10 -0800, Alan says...

Subject: Re: Trump's Tariffs Work and Bullshit Liberal Semantics
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump, alt.politics.liberalism, alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:27:10 -0800

Post by AlleyCat
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:20:11 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
But, now that you've opened that box... are ALL of the "importers" that import
CHINESE company's goods, American companies?

It doesn't matter.

No refutation.
PLONK!

There was refutation...

Nope.

You have not PROVEN that China OR Mexico pays absolutely ZERO for tariffs imposed on their respective countries.

PLONK!

EoD

=====

BLM/Drag Queen/Gay/Socialist/Antifa Fascist/Marxist/Communist/Racist/ Insurrectionist/Liberal Democrats:

"They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump. That's a fact."
https://i.imgur.com/DhrzBe8.mp4

Now, THAT was incitement. Trump said go peacefully and PATRIOTICALLY.

It was our RIGHT to protest as violently as ANY BLM or ANTIFA riot... right?

We have the right to "fight for our country".

"But when a LONG TRAIN OF ABUSES AND USURPATIONS (election cheating), pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a
Design to reduce them UNDER ABSOLUTE DESPOTISM (Democrats), it is THEIR RIGHT, it is THEIR DUTY, to THROW OFF SUCH
GOVERNMENT, and to provide new Guards for their future Security." - Declaration of Independence.

No insurrection... just the people exercising their RIGHTS. Oh yeah... WHO said,

Trumps "fight" words, were the EXACT same thing Democrats meant when THEY said: "Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and
peaceful." (see below)

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/1280x720/63Utqp7jn7s2X_LF.mp4?tag=12
"I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country, maybe there will be."
"People need to start takng to the streets."
"You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives."

"Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful." - Chris Cuomo

"When they go low, we kick them."
"How do you resist the temptation to run up and wring her neck?"
"I thought he should have punched him in the face."
"I said, I think you should have punched him in the face and then gotten out of the race."
"I'd like to punch him in the face."
"I said, if we were in high school, I'd take you behind the gym and beat the hell out of him."
"Punch some people in the face."
"When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?"
"Look as his character is stabbed to death."
"Where is John Wilkes Booth when you need him?"
"I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House."
"A Missouri State Senator is under investigation by the Secret Service after saying she hopes President Trump is assassinated."
"I will go and take Trump out tonight."
"And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd."
"And you push back on them."
"They're not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they're not going to stop after Election Day."
"If you think we're a riot now, you ain't seen nothing yet."
"How do resist the temptation to run up and ring her neck?" "
"I think you should punch him in the face."
"PUNCH SOME PEOPLE IN THE FACE!"
"And you know why there are no uprisings all over the country, but maybe there will be. Enemies of the state."
"You know there NEEDS to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives."
"Show me where it says that protesters are supposed to be polite and PEACEFUL."
"I'd like to punch him in the face." - Robert DeNiro(D)
"I said, if we were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him." - Joe Biden - President-elect of the United States
"People need to start taking to the streets." - Donny Deutsch

Besides... we have the right to "fight for our country".

But when a LONG TRAIN OF ABUSES AND USURPATIONS (election cheating), pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a
Design to reduce them UNDER ABSOLUTE DESPOTISM (Democrats), it is THEIR RIGHT, it is THEIR DUTY, to THROW OFF SUCH
GOVERNMENT, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. - Declaration of Independence.

No insurrection... just the people exercising their RIGHTS.

Trumps "fight" words, were the EXACT same thing Democrats meant when THEY said:

"I'm wired to fight anyone..."

"I promise to FIGHT every single day.""
http://youtu.be/XG5BcU1ZGiA
http://youtu.be/XG5BcU1ZGiA
"One, I'm a FIGHTER and I'm relentless, but I'm a FIGHTER and I'm relentless."
"A FIGHTER and I'm relentless."
"I will FIGHT like hell."
"But the way I see it now is that we pick ourselves up and we FIGHT back. That's what I think it's all about. We stand up and we FIGHT back. We do
not back down. We do not compromise, not today, not tomorrow, not ever. You can either lie down, you can whimper, you can pull up in a ball, you can
decide to move to Canada, or you can stand your ground and FIGHT back. And that's what it's about. We do FIGHT back, but we are gonna FIGHT back. We
are not turning this country over to what Donald Trump has sold. We are just not. Look, people are upset and they're right to be upset."
"Now we can whimper, we can whine, or we can FIGHT back. Me, I'm here to FIGHT back because we will not forget. We do not want to forget. We will use
that vision to make sure that we FIGHT harder, we FIGHT tougher, and we FIGHT more passionately for it than ever."
"We still have a FIGHT on our hands. FIGHT hard for the changes Americans are demanding. Get in the FIGHT to winning the FIGHT, to FIGHT FIGHTING
these FIGHTING. It is every tool possible to FIGHT for this change. We'll FIGHT, we'll FIGHT, to FIGHT FIGHTING hard. It's serious about FIGHTING and
FIGHT. We gotta get our front foot and FIGHT back. Problems, we call them out and we FIGHT back. I'm in this FIGHT. I am FIGHTING, I am FIGHTING. Get
in this FIGHT. Get in this FIGHT. Get in this FIGHT!"
"And FIGHTING, we all need to be in the FIGHT. We all need to stay in the "
"FIGHT. We stay in this FIGHT."
"We fought back. We fought back. I am not afraid of a FIGHT. I am in this FIGHT! All the Way! You don't get what you don't FIGHT for. Our FIGHT. Our
FIGHT. We are in this FIGHT for our lives. This is the FIGHT of our lives."
"But we are going to make sure that this FIGHT does not end tonight."
"This is a FIGHT for our lives, the lives of our friends and family members and neighbors. It is a FIGHT. FIGHT. And it is a FIGHT that we're going
to work to make sure continues. It's a FIGHT. It is a FIGHT. It is a FIGHT. And that's what this FIGHT is for."
"Well, I'm wired to FIGHT anyone who isn't doing their job for us. I'm John Tester and you're damn right I approve this message."
"And I'll have lots of FIGHTS ahead of us and I'm ready to stand up and keep FIGHTING. We have to FIGHT. We're going to FIGHT. We're going to FIGHT."
"We need to FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT. And we need to FIGHT. We're going to FIGHT. We got a few more FIGHTS. We're going to take the privilege of a few
more FIGHTS."
"And we have the biggest FIGHT of all. I will never stop FIGHTING. I will FIGHT like hell to FIGHT back against anyone."
"We need to say loud and clear that we are ready to FIGHT."
"It's a bare knuckles FIGHT."
"Now they're going to have to actually FIGHT back against people."
"The FIGHT has to be conducted."
"It's so important that we need to FIGHT."
"FIGHT that FIGHT."
"We have been FIGHTING."
"I was FIGHTING very hard."
"Time is of the essence both in terms of the FIGHT."
"I think we should be FIGHTING."
"Well, I really believe we need to FIGHT."
"We're simply not going to take this lying down. We're going to keep FIGHTING. "
"So I'm telling all my colleagues, this is the FIGHT of our lives."
http://youtu.be/XG5BcU1ZGiA
http://youtu.be/XG5BcU1ZGiA
"I promise to fight every single day."
"One, I'm a fighter and I'm relentless, but I'm a fighter and I'm relentless."
"A fighter and I'm relentless."
"I will fight like hell."
"But the way I see it now is that we pick ourselves up and we fight back."
"That's what I think it's all about."
"We stand up and we fight back."
"We do not back down."
"We do not compromise."
"Not today, not tomorrow, not ever."
"You can either lie down."
"You can whimper, you can pull up at a ball, you can decide to move to Canada, or you can stand your ground and fight back."
"And that's what it's about."
"We do fight back, but we are gonna fight back."
"We are not turning this country over to what Donald Trump has sold."
"We are just not."
"Look, people are upset and they're right to be upset."
"Now we can whimper, we can whine, or we can fight back."
"Look at me, I'm here to fight back."
"Because we will not forget."
"We do not want to forget."
"We will use that vision to make sure that we fight harder, we fight tougher, and we fight more passionately for than ever."
"We still have a fight on our hands."
"Fight hard for the changes Americans are demanding."
"Get in the fight to winning the fight, to fight fighting."
"He's fighting."
"We'll use every tool possible to fight for this change."
"We'll fight, we'll fight, to fight fighting hard."
"Serious about fighting and fight."
"We gotta get on our front foot and fight back."
"Problems, we call them out and we fight back."
"I'm in this fight."
"I am fighting, I am fighting."
"Get in this fight."
"Get in this fight.."
"Get in this fight! And fighting, we all need to be in the fight."
"We all need to stay in the fight."
"We stay in this fight."
"We fought back."
"I am not afraid of a fight."
"I am in this fight! Way! You don't get what you don't fight for."
"Our fight."
"We are in this fight for our lives."
"This is the fight of our lives."
"But we are going to make sure that this fight does not end tonight."
"This is a fight for our lives, the lives of our friends and family members and neighbors."
"It is a fight."
"Fight."
"And it is a fight that we're going to work to make sure continues."
"It's a fight."
"And that's what this fight is for."
"Well, I'm wired to fight anyone who isn't doing their job for us."
"I'm John Tester and you're damn right I approve this message."
"And I'll have lots of fights ahead of us and I'm ready to stand up and keep fighting."
"We have to fight."
"We're going to fight."
"We need to fight, fight, fight."
"And we need to fight."
"We got a few more fights."
"We're going to take the privilege of a few more fights."
"And we have the biggest fight of all."
"I will never stop fighting."
"I will fight like hell to fight back against anyone."
"We need to say loud and clear that we are ready to fight."
"It's a bare knuckles fight."
"Now they're going to have to actually fight back against people."
"The fight has to be conducted."
"It's so important that we need to fight."
"Fight that fight."
"We have been fighting."
"I was fighting very hard."
"Time is of the essence both in terms of the fight."
"I think we should be fighting."
"Well, I really believe we need to fight."
"We're simply not going to take this lying down."
"We're going to keep fighting."
"So I'm telling all my colleagues..."
"This is the fight of our life."
"Whose side are you on? Who are you fighting for? They're fighting, but I'm fighting."
"We're both fighting."
"We will fight back."
"We're not going to just take this line down."
"I'm just going to keep the fight up."
"What we have to do right now is fight as hard as we can."
"We have to rise up and fight back."
"And so we're going to fight and we're going to continue to fight."
"I am going to be fighting, fighting like hell."
"We keep fighting, fighting, fighting, or we kept fighting and we did."
"So we're going to keep fighting."
"We have to be fighting every single day."
"We have to fight back and we have no choice but to do that."
"I think we're doing the right thing to do that."
"Fighting."
"And I'm fighting."
"Our job right now is to fight."
"It's really important I'm going to keep fighting."
"I'm asking for the support of people across the country to fight back."
"And you've got to be fierce in fighting."
"Keep fighting."
"Brown have been fighting."
"I've told President Biden I will fight like mad."
"I'll tell you what, now more than ever we have to fight like hell."
"We have these battles on the floor of the Senate."
"I'm going to go down and battle and I'm going to be down there on the floor But we Democrats are fighting as hard as we can."
"Democrats are fighting as hard as we can."
"Credit it in any way but we're fighting back."
"What we've got to do is fight in Congress, fight in the courts, fight in the streets, fight online, fight at the ballot box."
"Fighting and pushing around the clock, fighting, continue to be brave and be strong and keep fighting."
"We're getting people engaged in the fight."
"We're fighting."
"We've got to keep fighting and keep focused, continue to fight."
"This is going to be a fight."
"We'll also fight him and challenge him in every way that we can in the Congress, in the courts, and in the streets."
"To continue fighting, we each have an important role to play in fighting."
"In this fight like so many before it, it has been a fight."
"The American people are going to have to fight."
"And about the importance of fighting."
"I will always fight, fighting."
"But we always must fight."
"Joe Biden has a deep, deep-seated commitment to fight and to fight."
"And about the importance of fighting.."

[Alan]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:27:10 -0800, Alan says...

Subject: Re: Trump's Tariffs Work and Bullshit Liberal Semantics
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump, alt.politics.liberalism, alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:27:10 -0800

Post by AlleyCat
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:20:11 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
But, now that you've opened that box... are ALL of the "importers" that import
CHINESE company's goods, American companies?

It doesn't matter.

No refutation.
PLONK!

There was refutation...

Nope.
You have not PROVEN that China OR Mexico pays absolutely ZERO for tariffs imposed on their respective countries.
PLONK!
EoD

You have not PROVEN they pay a single cent, nor have you show a
mechanism by which it COULD happen.

[AlleyCat]

On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 13:29:44 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
You have not PROVEN that China OR Mexico pays absolutely ZERO for tariffs imposed on their respective countries.
PLONK!
EoD

You have not PROVEN they pay a single cent, nor have you show a
mechanism by which it COULD happen.

Backatcha, faggot.

You have not PROVEN they don't pay a single cent, nor have you show a mechanism by which it COULDN'T happen.

If tariffs don't work and Mexico doesn't pay, then why...


Migrant Caravans Not Reaching Border, Mexico President Says After Trump Threats

The threat of tariffs work.

'Migrant Caravans Not Reaching Border, Mexico President Says After Trump
Threats'

<https://www.newsweek.com/caravans-not-reaching-border-says-mexico-president-after-trump-threats-1991916>

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum addressed U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's renewed threats of steep tariffs this week, asserting that migrant
caravans are no longer reaching the U.S.-Mexico border.

Her remarks underscored growing tensions as Trump plans to tighten immigration policies and impose a 25 percent tariff on Mexican imports. Trump
declared that the tariffs would remain in place "until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our
Country!"

"Caravans of migrants no longer reach the border," Sheinbaum said on Tuesday while presenting a letter she plans to send to Trump in the coming days.
She also emphasized Mexico's efforts to curb the flow of drugs, including the synthetic opioid fentanyl, while noting that it remains "a public
health and consumption problem within your country's society."

Newsweek reached out to Trump's transition team for comment on Tuesday.

As Trump prepares for his second inauguration, his harsh rhetoric on migration has resurfaced, coinciding with a caravan of approximately 1,500
migrants from Central and South America heading toward the U.S. border before his proposed policies take effect.

The urgency is partly fueled by Trump's promise to dismantle measures such as the CBP One app, which currently allows migrants to schedule asylum
appointments remotely. However, Sheinbaum reminded Trump that Mexico is not to blame for the caravans reaching the border.

"Maybe President Trump doesn't know this, but of those arriving at the border-which is significantly fewer, 75 percent less than in December 2023-
half them have a CBP One appointment. In other words, they have an appointment. So, they are the ones inviting them to come to the United States,"
she said.

Sheinbaum also highlighted Mexico's proactive role in addressing migration while criticizing the U.S. for failing to tackle the root causes. "If a
percentage of what the United States spends on war were dedicated to peace and development, it would address the underlying causes of migration," she
said, advocating for regional investment over punitive measures.

On the subject of tariffs, Sheinbaum suggested Mexico could retaliate. "One tariff would be followed by another in response, escalating until we risk
harming mutual businesses," she warned, pointing to U.S. automakers with manufacturing plants on both sides of the border.

Meanwhile, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau also revealed on Tuesday he had a "good" call with Trump after the President-elect similarly
threatened to impose 25 percent tariffs on Canada. Trudeau expressed confidence that the U.S. and Canada could work together in "constructive ways"
to address their differences.

However, Trump's threat faces significant obstacles. The U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) prohibits member countries from unilaterally imposing
tariffs on one another. Moreover, sudden measures could disrupt the interconnected economies, particularly the auto industry, where production relies
heavily on cross-border supply chains.

"It is unacceptable and would cause inflation and job losses in both Mexico and the United States," Sheinbaum said, adding that she is open to
dialogue. "We expect to have a conversation with him very soon," she noted.

As of November 2024, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) reported a significant decrease in migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border
compared to the previous year. In October 2024, there were approximately 100,000 encounters, marking a 75 percent reduction from the same period in
2023.

[Alan]

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 13:29:44 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
You have not PROVEN that China OR Mexico pays absolutely ZERO for tariffs imposed on their respective countries.
PLONK!
EoD

You have not PROVEN they pay a single cent, nor have you show a
mechanism by which it COULD happen.

Backatcha, faggot.
You have not PROVEN they don't pay a single cent, nor have you show a mechanism by which it COULDN'T happen.

Again: proving negatives doesn't work.

Post by AlleyCat
If tariffs don't work and Mexico doesn't pay, then why...

Because tariffs are paid by the importers, not the countries from which
the goods are exported.

[AlleyCat]

On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 15:40:56 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
You have not PROVEN they don't pay a single cent, nor have you show a mechanism by which it COULDN'T happen.

Again: proving negatives doesn't work.

But Trump's tariffs do.

'Migrant Caravans Not Reaching Border, Mexico President Says After Trump
Threats'

<https://www.newsweek.com/caravans-not-reaching-border-says-mexico-president-after-trump-threats-1991916>

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum addressed U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's renewed threats of steep tariffs this week, asserting that migrant
caravans are no longer reaching the U.S.-Mexico border.

Her remarks underscored growing tensions as Trump plans to tighten immigration policies and impose a 25 percent tariff on Mexican imports. Trump
declared that the tariffs would remain in place "until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our
Country!"

"Caravans of migrants no longer reach the border," Sheinbaum said on Tuesday while presenting a letter she plans to send to Trump in the coming days.
She also emphasized Mexico's efforts to curb the flow of drugs, including the synthetic opioid fentanyl, while noting that it remains "a public
health and consumption problem within your country's society."

Newsweek reached out to Trump's transition team for comment on Tuesday.

As Trump prepares for his second inauguration, his harsh rhetoric on migration has resurfaced, coinciding with a caravan of approximately 1,500
migrants from Central and South America heading toward the U.S. border before his proposed policies take effect.

The urgency is partly fueled by Trump's promise to dismantle measures such as the CBP One app, which currently allows migrants to schedule asylum
appointments remotely. However, Sheinbaum reminded Trump that Mexico is not to blame for the caravans reaching the border.

"Maybe President Trump doesn't know this, but of those arriving at the border-which is significantly fewer, 75 percent less than in December 2023-
half them have a CBP One appointment. In other words, they have an appointment. So, they are the ones inviting them to come to the United States,"
she said.

Sheinbaum also highlighted Mexico's proactive role in addressing migration while criticizing the U.S. for failing to tackle the root causes. "If a
percentage of what the United States spends on war were dedicated to peace and development, it would address the underlying causes of migration," she
said, advocating for regional investment over punitive measures.

On the subject of tariffs, Sheinbaum suggested Mexico could retaliate. "One tariff would be followed by another in response, escalating until we risk
harming mutual businesses," she warned, pointing to U.S. automakers with manufacturing plants on both sides of the border.

Meanwhile, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau also revealed on Tuesday he had a "good" call with Trump after the President-elect similarly
threatened to impose 25 percent tariffs on Canada. Trudeau expressed confidence that the U.S. and Canada could work together in "constructive ways"
to address their differences.

However, Trump's threat faces significant obstacles. The U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) prohibits member countries from unilaterally imposing
tariffs on one another. Moreover, sudden measures could disrupt the interconnected economies, particularly the auto industry, where production relies
heavily on cross-border supply chains.

"It is unacceptable and would cause inflation and job losses in both Mexico and the United States," Sheinbaum said, adding that she is open to
dialogue. "We expect to have a conversation with him very soon," she noted.

As of November 2024, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) reported a significant decrease in migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border
compared to the previous year. In October 2024, there were approximately 100,000 encounters, marking a 75 percent reduction from the same period in
2023.

[pothead]

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 13:29:44 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
You have not PROVEN that China OR Mexico pays absolutely ZERO for tariffs imposed on their respective countries.
PLONK!
EoD

You have not PROVEN they pay a single cent, nor have you show a
mechanism by which it COULD happen.

Backatcha, faggot.
You have not PROVEN they don't pay a single cent, nor have you show a mechanism by which it COULDN'T happen.
If tariffs don't work and Mexico doesn't pay, then why...
Migrant Caravans Not Reaching Border, Mexico President Says After Trump Threats
The threat of tariffs work.
'Migrant Caravans Not Reaching Border, Mexico President Says After Trump
Threats'
<https://www.newsweek.com/caravans-not-reaching-border-says-mexico-president-after-trump-threats-1991916>
Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum addressed U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's renewed threats of steep tariffs this week, asserting that migrant
caravans are no longer reaching the U.S.-Mexico border.
Her remarks underscored growing tensions as Trump plans to tighten immigration policies and impose a 25 percent tariff on Mexican imports. Trump
declared that the tariffs would remain in place "until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our
Country!"
"Caravans of migrants no longer reach the border," Sheinbaum said on Tuesday while presenting a letter she plans to send to Trump in the coming days.
She also emphasized Mexico's efforts to curb the flow of drugs, including the synthetic opioid fentanyl, while noting that it remains "a public
health and consumption problem within your country's society."
Newsweek reached out to Trump's transition team for comment on Tuesday.
As Trump prepares for his second inauguration, his harsh rhetoric on migration has resurfaced, coinciding with a caravan of approximately 1,500
migrants from Central and South America heading toward the U.S. border before his proposed policies take effect.
The urgency is partly fueled by Trump's promise to dismantle measures such as the CBP One app, which currently allows migrants to schedule asylum
appointments remotely. However, Sheinbaum reminded Trump that Mexico is not to blame for the caravans reaching the border.
"Maybe President Trump doesn't know this, but of those arriving at the border-which is significantly fewer, 75 percent less than in December 2023-
half them have a CBP One appointment. In other words, they have an appointment. So, they are the ones inviting them to come to the United States,"
she said.
Sheinbaum also highlighted Mexico's proactive role in addressing migration while criticizing the U.S. for failing to tackle the root causes. "If a
percentage of what the United States spends on war were dedicated to peace and development, it would address the underlying causes of migration," she
said, advocating for regional investment over punitive measures.
On the subject of tariffs, Sheinbaum suggested Mexico could retaliate. "One tariff would be followed by another in response, escalating until we risk
harming mutual businesses," she warned, pointing to U.S. automakers with manufacturing plants on both sides of the border.
Meanwhile, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau also revealed on Tuesday he had a "good" call with Trump after the President-elect similarly
threatened to impose 25 percent tariffs on Canada. Trudeau expressed confidence that the U.S. and Canada could work together in "constructive ways"
to address their differences.
However, Trump's threat faces significant obstacles. The U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) prohibits member countries from unilaterally imposing
tariffs on one another. Moreover, sudden measures could disrupt the interconnected economies, particularly the auto industry, where production relies
heavily on cross-border supply chains.
"It is unacceptable and would cause inflation and job losses in both Mexico and the United States," Sheinbaum said, adding that she is open to
dialogue. "We expect to have a conversation with him very soon," she noted.
As of November 2024, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) reported a significant decrease in migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border
compared to the previous year. In October 2024, there were approximately 100,000 encounters, marking a 75 percent reduction from the same period in
2023.

That didn't take long now did it !
The libby MSM must be spinning like tops!

[Alan]

Post by pothead

Post by AlleyCat
As of November 2024, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) reported a significant decrease in migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border
compared to the previous year. In October 2024, there were approximately 100,000 encounters, marking a 75 percent reduction from the same period in
2023.

That didn't take long now did it !
The libby MSM must be spinning like tops!

If those are numbers from October...

...how do you imagine Trump is responsible for it?

[AlleyCat]

On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 16:02:39 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by pothead

Post by AlleyCat
As of November 2024, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) reported a significant decrease in migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border
compared to the previous year. In October 2024, there were approximately 100,000 encounters, marking a 75 percent reduction from the same period in
2023.

That didn't take long now did it !
The libby MSM must be spinning like tops!

If those are numbers from October...

A) "As of November 2024" could mean "As of November 26, 2024" when the article was published, and...

Post by Alan
...how do you imagine Trump is responsible for it?

B) Trump didn't start talking about tariffs and deportations on election day.

You stupid fuck.

How can you BE, THAT fucking stupid?

Oh... yeah... you can't... focus on the minutiae, when he can't win on-topic.

Seek help with...

https://i.imgur.com/0pOVWts.mp4

... PLEASE!

=====

BLM/Drag Queen/Gay/Socialist/Antifa Fascist/Marxist/Communist/Racist/ Insurrectionist/Liberal Democrats:

"They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump. That's a fact."
https://i.imgur.com/DhrzBe8.mp4

Now, THAT was incitement. Trump said go peacefully and PATRIOTICALLY.

It was our RIGHT to protest as violently as ANY BLM or ANTIFA riot... right?

We have the right to "fight for our country".

"But when a LONG TRAIN OF ABUSES AND USURPATIONS (election cheating), pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a
Design to reduce them UNDER ABSOLUTE DESPOTISM (Democrats), it is THEIR RIGHT, it is THEIR DUTY, to THROW OFF SUCH
GOVERNMENT, and to provide new Guards for their future Security." - Declaration of Independence.

No insurrection... just the people exercising their RIGHTS. Oh yeah... WHO said,

Trumps "fight" words, were the EXACT same thing Democrats meant when THEY said: "Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and
peaceful." (see below)

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/1280x720/63Utqp7jn7s2X_LF.mp4?tag=12
"I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country, maybe there will be."
"People need to start takng to the streets."
"You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives."

"Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful." - Chris Cuomo

"When they go low, we kick them."
"How do you resist the temptation to run up and wring her neck?"
"I thought he should have punched him in the face."
"I said, I think you should have punched him in the face and then gotten out of the race."
"I'd like to punch him in the face."
"I said, if we were in high school, I'd take you behind the gym and beat the hell out of him."
"Punch some people in the face."
"When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?"
"Look as his character is stabbed to death."
"Where is John Wilkes Booth when you need him?"
"I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House."
"A Missouri State Senator is under investigation by the Secret Service after saying she hopes President Trump is assassinated."
"I will go and take Trump out tonight."
"And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd."
"And you push back on them."
"They're not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they're not going to stop after Election Day."
"If you think we're a riot now, you ain't seen nothing yet."
"How do resist the temptation to run up and ring her neck?" "
"I think you should punch him in the face."
"PUNCH SOME PEOPLE IN THE FACE!"
"And you know why there are no uprisings all over the country, but maybe there will be. Enemies of the state."
"You know there NEEDS to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives."
"Show me where it says that protesters are supposed to be polite and PEACEFUL."
"I'd like to punch him in the face." - Robert DeNiro(D)
"I said, if we were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him." - Joe Biden - President-elect of the United States
"People need to start taking to the streets." - Donny Deutsch

Besides... we have the right to "fight for our country".

But when a LONG TRAIN OF ABUSES AND USURPATIONS (election cheating), pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a
Design to reduce them UNDER ABSOLUTE DESPOTISM (Democrats), it is THEIR RIGHT, it is THEIR DUTY, to THROW OFF SUCH
GOVERNMENT, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. - Declaration of Independence.

No insurrection... just the people exercising their RIGHTS.

Trumps "fight" words, were the EXACT same thing Democrats meant when THEY said:

"I'm wired to fight anyone..."
http://youtu.be/XG5BcU1ZGiA
"I promise to FIGHT every single day.""
http://youtu.be/XG5BcU1ZGiA
http://youtu.be/XG5BcU1ZGiA
"One, I'm a FIGHTER and I'm relentless, but I'm a FIGHTER and I'm relentless."
"A FIGHTER and I'm relentless."
"I will FIGHT like hell."
"But the way I see it now is that we pick ourselves up and we FIGHT back. That's what I think it's all about. We stand up and we FIGHT back. We do
not back down. We do not compromise, not today, not tomorrow, not ever. You can either lie down, you can whimper, you can pull up in a ball, you can
decide to move to Canada, or you can stand your ground and FIGHT back. And that's what it's about. We do FIGHT back, but we are gonna FIGHT back. We
are not turning this country over to what Donald Trump has sold. We are just not. Look, people are upset and they're right to be upset."
"Now we can whimper, we can whine, or we can FIGHT back. Me, I'm here to FIGHT back because we will not forget. We do not want to forget. We will use
that vision to make sure that we FIGHT harder, we FIGHT tougher, and we FIGHT more passionately for it than ever."
"We still have a FIGHT on our hands. FIGHT hard for the changes Americans are demanding. Get in the FIGHT to winning the FIGHT, to FIGHT FIGHTING
these FIGHTING. It is every tool possible to FIGHT for this change. We'll FIGHT, we'll FIGHT, to FIGHT FIGHTING hard. It's serious about FIGHTING and
FIGHT. We gotta get our front foot and FIGHT back. Problems, we call them out and we FIGHT back. I'm in this FIGHT. I am FIGHTING, I am FIGHTING. Get
in this FIGHT. Get in this FIGHT. Get in this FIGHT!"
"And FIGHTING, we all need to be in the FIGHT. We all need to stay in the "
"FIGHT. We stay in this FIGHT."
"We fought back. We fought back. I am not afraid of a FIGHT. I am in this FIGHT! All the Way! You don't get what you don't FIGHT for. Our FIGHT. Our
FIGHT. We are in this FIGHT for our lives. This is the FIGHT of our lives."
"But we are going to make sure that this FIGHT does not end tonight."
"This is a FIGHT for our lives, the lives of our friends and family members and neighbors. It is a FIGHT. FIGHT. And it is a FIGHT that we're going
to work to make sure continues. It's a FIGHT. It is a FIGHT. It is a FIGHT. And that's what this FIGHT is for."
"Well, I'm wired to FIGHT anyone who isn't doing their job for us. I'm John Tester and you're damn right I approve this message."
"And I'll have lots of FIGHTS ahead of us and I'm ready to stand up and keep FIGHTING. We have to FIGHT. We're going to FIGHT. We're going to FIGHT."
"We need to FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT. And we need to FIGHT. We're going to FIGHT. We got a few more FIGHTS. We're going to take the privilege of a few
more FIGHTS."
"And we have the biggest FIGHT of all. I will never stop FIGHTING. I will FIGHT like hell to FIGHT back against anyone."
"We need to say loud and clear that we are ready to FIGHT."
"It's a bare knuckles FIGHT."
"Now they're going to have to actually FIGHT back against people."
"The FIGHT has to be conducted."
"It's so important that we need to FIGHT."
"FIGHT that FIGHT."
"We have been FIGHTING."
"I was FIGHTING very hard."
"Time is of the essence both in terms of the FIGHT."
"I think we should be FIGHTING."
"Well, I really believe we need to FIGHT."
"We're simply not going to take this lying down. We're going to keep FIGHTING. "
"So I'm telling all my colleagues, this is the FIGHT of our lives."
http://youtu.be/XG5BcU1ZGiA
http://youtu.be/XG5BcU1ZGiA
"I promise to fight every single day."
"One, I'm a fighter and I'm relentless, but I'm a fighter and I'm relentless."
"A fighter and I'm relentless."
"I will fight like hell."
"But the way I see it now is that we pick ourselves up and we fight back."
"That's what I think it's all about."
"We stand up and we fight back."
"We do not back down."
"We do not compromise."
"Not today, not tomorrow, not ever."
"You can either lie down."
"You can whimper, you can pull up at a ball, you can decide to move to Canada, or you can stand your ground and fight back."
"And that's what it's about."
"We do fight back, but we are gonna fight back."
"We are not turning this country over to what Donald Trump has sold."
"We are just not."
"Look, people are upset and they're right to be upset."
"Now we can whimper, we can whine, or we can fight back."
"Look at me, I'm here to fight back."
"Because we will not forget."
"We do not want to forget."
"We will use that vision to make sure that we fight harder, we fight tougher, and we fight more passionately for than ever."
"We still have a fight on our hands."
"Fight hard for the changes Americans are demanding."
"Get in the fight to winning the fight, to fight fighting."
"He's fighting."
"We'll use every tool possible to fight for this change."
"We'll fight, we'll fight, to fight fighting hard."
"Serious about fighting and fight."
"We gotta get on our front foot and fight back."
"Problems, we call them out and we fight back."
"I'm in this fight."
"I am fighting, I am fighting."
"Get in this fight."
"Get in this fight.."
"Get in this fight! And fighting, we all need to be in the fight."
"We all need to stay in the fight."
"We stay in this fight."
"We fought back."
"I am not afraid of a fight."
"I am in this fight! Way! You don't get what you don't fight for."
"Our fight."
"We are in this fight for our lives."
"This is the fight of our lives."
"But we are going to make sure that this fight does not end tonight."
"This is a fight for our lives, the lives of our friends and family members and neighbors."
"It is a fight."
"Fight."
"And it is a fight that we're going to work to make sure continues."
"It's a fight."
"And that's what this fight is for."
"Well, I'm wired to fight anyone who isn't doing their job for us."
"I'm John Tester and you're damn right I approve this message."
"And I'll have lots of fights ahead of us and I'm ready to stand up and keep fighting."
"We have to fight."
"We're going to fight."
"We need to fight, fight, fight."
"And we need to fight."
"We got a few more fights."
"We're going to take the privilege of a few more fights."
"And we have the biggest fight of all."
"I will never stop fighting."
"I will fight like hell to fight back against anyone."
"We need to say loud and clear that we are ready to fight."
"It's a bare knuckles fight."
"Now they're going to have to actually fight back against people."
"The fight has to be conducted."
"It's so important that we need to fight."
"Fight that fight."
"We have been fighting."
"I was fighting very hard."
"Time is of the essence both in terms of the fight."
"I think we should be fighting."
"Well, I really believe we need to fight."
"We're simply not going to take this lying down."
"We're going to keep fighting."
"So I'm telling all my colleagues..."
"This is the fight of our life."
"Whose side are you on? Who are you fighting for? They're fighting, but I'm fighting."
"We're both fighting."
"We will fight back."
"We're not going to just take this line down."
"I'm just going to keep the fight up."
"What we have to do right now is fight as hard as we can."
"We have to rise up and fight back."
"And so we're going to fight and we're going to continue to fight."
"I am going to be fighting, fighting like hell."
"We keep fighting, fighting, fighting, or we kept fighting and we did."
"So we're going to keep fighting."
"We have to be fighting every single day."
"We have to fight back and we have no choice but to do that."
"I think we're doing the right thing to do that."
"Fighting."
"And I'm fighting."
"Our job right now is to fight."
"It's really important I'm going to keep fighting."
"I'm asking for the support of people across the country to fight back."
"And you've got to be fierce in fighting."
"Keep fighting."
"Brown have been fighting."
"I've told President Biden I will fight like mad."
"I'll tell you what, now more than ever we have to fight like hell."
"We have these battles on the floor of the Senate."
"I'm going to go down and battle and I'm going to be down there on the floor But we Democrats are fighting as hard as we can."
"Democrats are fighting as hard as we can."
"Credit it in any way but we're fighting back."
"What we've got to do is fight in Congress, fight in the courts, fight in the streets, fight online, fight at the ballot box."
"Fighting and pushing around the clock, fighting, continue to be brave and be strong and keep fighting."
"We're getting people engaged in the fight."
"We're fighting."
"We've got to keep fighting and keep focused, continue to fight."
"This is going to be a fight."
"We'll also fight him and challenge him in every way that we can in the Congress, in the courts, and in the streets."
"To continue fighting, we each have an important role to play in fighting."
"In this fight like so many before it, it has been a fight."
"The American people are going to have to fight."
"And about the importance of fighting."
"I will always fight, fighting."
"But we always must fight."
"Joe Biden has a deep, deep-seated commitment to fight and to fight."
"And about the importance of fighting.."

[Siri Cruise]

Post by pothead

Post by AlleyCat
As of November 2024, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) reported a significant decrease in migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border
compared to the previous year. In October 2024, there were approximately 100,000 encounters, marking a 75 percent reduction from the same period in
2023.

That didn't take long now did it !
The libby MSM must be spinning like tops!

While Biden is still president?

How deep in the shit do you hide to not already know this?

[super70s]

[*all* of shitbag's gratuitous bullshit crossposts removed]
[subject line vandalism by squat-to-piss communist cocksucker repaired]
On every date, the mental defective AlleyPussyBitch, the narcissist,
aka Neutered Pussy — *NOT* a three letter athlete, was *NEVER* a
bouncer, *NEVER* a golf pro, *NEVER* a lifeguard, *NEVER* dunked a
basketball, and has *NEVER* been laid, but just a pole-puffing no-fight
squat-to-piss shrieking estrogen-oozing fairy — *capitulated* and
I *always* get the better of AlleyPussyBitch, the psycho squat-to-piss
zero-achieving no-fight histrionical faggot narcissist!

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 13:29:44 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan

Post by AlleyCat
You have not PROVEN that China OR Mexico pays absolutely ZERO for
tariffs imposed on their respective countries.
PLONK!
EoD

You have not PROVEN they pay a single cent, nor have you show a
mechanism by which it COULD happen.

Backatcha, faggot.
You have not PROVEN they don't pay a single cent

You haven't proved that they pay anything. You can't.

If Trump's trying to scare Mexico (and Canada) into lowering their
price for exported goods they know he's FOS from "the Wall" threat.

[AlleyCat]

On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:42:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza, forever the mental and physical midget, who was *NEVER* a three sport letterman, like me, and who
was *NEVER* a bouncer, like me, and who was *NEVER* an assistant golf pro, like me, and who was *NEVER* a lifeguard, like me, and who *NEVER* dunked
a basketball, like me, and has *NEVER* laid as many women as me, says...

"sentiences"? You illiterate cocksucker.

LOL... coming from you, I'll take that as a compliment.



Dick-sucking homo spelling Nazi, has a lot of room to talk.

"That's a *lie*. It and methane *absolutely* are causing global warming, the the(sic) CO2 and methane *are* from human economic activity." - Rudy
Canoza

"The the"? You illiterate cocksucker.

"Narcissistic cowards who have kill-filed mt(sic)" - Rudy Canoza

"Mt"? You illiterate cocksucker.

When An Involuntarily Retired (Pruned Deadwoo)(sic) - Rudy Canoza

Deadwoo? You illiterate cocksucker.

It is a dark moment *entire*(sic) created by... - Rudy Canoza

"This(sic) comments" - Rudy Canoza

"This comments"? You illiterate cocksucker.

Fuck off with you(sic) copypasta. - Rudy Canoza

"Wnenever(sic) Hartung starts off with "So...", e.g. "So what you're saying
is...", what follows is always a straw man, which is a type of lie." - Rudy Canoza

"Wnenever"? You illiterate cocksucker.

"You already squandered you(sic) one reply." - Rudy Canoza

"You found it somewhere and copypastaed(sic) - Rudy Canaoza

"Pastaed"? You illiterate cocksucker.

"So, the judge was actually *is*(sic) actually a felon." - Rudy Canaoza

"Was actually is"? You illiterate cocksucker.

"It choose(sic) you" - Rudy Canaoza

THEN, he fucks up his own fuckup.

"It chooe(sic) you"? - Rudy Canoza

[giggle]

"Adversary and enemy are not synonyms." - Rudy Canoza(sic)

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AlleyCat, the narcissist, ,(sic) The Insanely Jealous Narcissist - Rudy Canoza

The vast majority of political violence in the U.S>(sic) is committed by far right-wingnuts. - Rudy Canaoza

"LOL... Ruy(sic) *correctly* points out that "adversary" and "enemy" are not synonyms" - Rudy Canoza

THEN, fucks up again, trying to right his wrong. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"LOL... Ruey(sic) *correctly* points out that "adversary" and "enemy" are not synonyms" - Rudy Canaoza

"Adversary and enemy are not synonyms." - Rudy Canoza

Not a fuck up, per se... just a lie.

Look (sic) Rudy makes me do - Rudy Canaoza

No. The subject line is a a ie(sic). - Professor of Grammar, Rudy "I Fucked Up Again" - Rudy Canoza

"You don't(sic) your ass from your face, shitbag." - Professor of Grammar, Rudy "I Fucked Up Again"" - Rudy Canoza

"Decent People Laught"(sic) - Rudy Canoza

"I have reduce(sic) my assets." - Rudy "Bill Flett" Canoza

"I really have explain(sic) fully why no one died to "preserve our liberty." - Rudy Canoza

"It would if were were(sic) writing in German, which, of course, we aren't." - Rudy "Bill Flett" Canoza

"You didn't even read you(sic) copypasta lie bullshit." - Rudy "Bill Flett" Canoza

"living rent-free in you(sic) diseased imagination." - Rudy Canoza

Yes, *YOU* know where I kicke(sic) your squat-to-piss no-fight faggot ass, you fat fairy. - Rudy Canoza

"No one aksed(sic) you, Google Groups faggot." - Rudy Canoza

"Eric Schild - hysterical histrionical estogen(sic)-oozing squat-to-piss fairy - squealed" - Rudy Canoza

Estogen? What the fuck is Estogen, brainiac?

"That exclude(sic) McEnany and you, and also Trump." - Rudy Canoza

"Oh, that's right: you're(sic) Nazi." - Rudy Canoza

Thursday, October 10, 2019: "Trump has *failed* to delegitimate(sic) the impeachment effort, as the growing public support for it shows." - Rudy
Canoza

Wednesday, August 4, 2020: "As I already explained: *every* word Trump says about the election is part of an attempt to try to delegitimate(sic) it
in advance." - Rudy Canoza

Tuesday, August 3, 2020: "Everything he says about the election is intended to destabilize and delegitimate(sic) it." - Rudy Canoza

Friday, August 7, 2020: "No. Trump's deliberate attempts to delegitimate(sic) the election are well proved." - Rudy Canoza

Funny how he *NEVER* uses that word AFTER I corrected the narcissistic idiot.

"[snip plagiarized bullshit that AlleyPussyBitch has'nt[sic] even read]" - Rudy Canoza - 6/15/21 - Contraction error...funny!

"I have reduce(sic) my assets." - "Bill Flett" - 6/12/21 - More verb tense problems for our uneducated lil guy. - Rudy Canoza

"I really have explain(sic) fully why no one died to 'preserve our liberty.'" - Wednesday is Verb Problem day for Dwarfling, "Rudy Canoza" 6/9/21

"It would if were[sic] were writing in German, which, of course, we aren't." - Rudy Canoza 6/8/21

"You didn't even read you[sic] copypasta lie bullshit." - Rudy Canoza - 6/8/21 - Pronoun problems for The Dwarf

"living rent-free in you[sic] diseased imagination." - "Rudy Canoza" - 2/10/21 - More dwarfish pronoun problems

"The(sic) did not "invade" anything, ratboy." --- "Rudy Canoza" 7/10/21 Article or pronoun? Which is it to be?

"The salient characteristic of right-wingnut shitbags like ratboy"(sic). --- "Rudy Canoza" 7/8/21 No verb, therefore it is not a sentence. Tsk-tsk.

"Fuck off with Delwaware."(sic) - "Rudy Canoza" 7/23/21 The Dwarfling discovers a new state!

"When Nazi sympathizer(sic) like you are exterminated" - "Orni Thopter" 7/23/21 Even Rudy's socks have problems with plurals. - Rudy Canoza

"*(A)ny*(sic) measure the(sic) either outright prevents eligible voters from voting"(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)
(sic)(sic) - "Rudy Canoza" 7/19/21 More problems with articles...

"She's an excellent judge, and his(sic) criticism of Trump's truly shitty lawyers is spot-on." - "Rudy Canoza" 7/12/21 More gender-shifting? Hahaha.

[AlleyCat]

['oh.no.this.definitely.is.NOT.going.to.can.politics' psycho gratuitous bullshit crosspost removed]

[subject line vandalism by commie tip-toeing to suck boyfriend's cock, repaired]
On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 10:33:55 -0800, Rudy Canoza, forever the mental and physical midget, who was *NEVER* a three sport letterman, like me, and who
was *NEVER* a bouncer, like me, and who was *NEVER* an assistant golf pro, like me, and who was *NEVER* a lifeguard, like me, and who *NEVER* dunked
a basketball, like me, and has *NEVER* laid as many women as me, says...

Post by AlleyCat
LOL... coming from you, I'll take that as a compliment.

Dick-sucking homo spelling Nazi, has a lot of room to talk.

The comma is *wrong*

I'll put a comma any where the fuck I want to, semen-slurper, an they ain't a fucking thing you can do about it.

LOL... that's one of the things undeserved narcissists can't handle... not being in control. So, fuck off spelling,grammar Nazi.

The comma is not "wrong", because I WANTED it there... but these are ALL, wrong.



"That's a *lie*. It and methane *absolutely* are causing global warming, the the(sic) CO2 and methane *are* from human economic activity." - Rudy
Canoza

"Narcissistic cowards who have kill-filed mt(sic)" - Rudy Canoza

When An Involuntarily Retired (Pruned Deadwoo)(sic) - Rudy Canoza

It is a dark moment *entire*(sic) created by... - Rudy Canoza

"This(sic) comments" - Rudy Canoza

Fuck off with you(sic) copypasta. - Rudy Canoza

"Wnenever(sic) Hartung starts off with "So...", e.g. "So what you're saying
is...", what follows is always a straw man, which is a type of lie." - Rudy Canoza

"You already squandered you(sic) one reply." - Rudy Canoza

"You found it somewhere and copypastaed(sic) - Rudy Canaoza

"So, the judge was actually *is*(sic) actually a felon." - Rudy Canaoza

"It choose(sic) you" - Rudy Canaoza

THEN, he fucks up his own fuckup.

"It chooe(sic) you"? - Rudy Canoza

[giggle]

"Adversary and enemy are not synonyms." - Rudy Canoza(sic)

AlleyCat, the narcissist, ,(sic) The Insanely Jealous Narcissist - Rudy Canoza

The vast majority of political violence in the U.S>(sic) is committed by far right-wingnuts. - Rudy Canaoza

"LOL... Ruy(sic) *correctly* points out that "adversary" and "enemy" are not synonyms" - Rudy Canoza

THEN, fucks up again, trying to right his wrong. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"LOL... Ruey(sic) *correctly* points out that "adversary" and "enemy" are not synonyms" - Rudy Canaoza

"Adversary and enemy are not synonyms." - Rudy Canoza

Not a fuck up, per se... just a lie.

Look (sic) Rudy makes me do - Rudy Canaoza

No. The subject line is a a ie(sic). - Professor of Grammar, Rudy "I Fucked Up Again" - Rudy Canoza

"You don't(sic) your ass from your face, shitbag." - Professor of Grammar, Rudy "I Fucked Up Again"" - Rudy Canoza

"Decent People Laught"(sic) - Rudy Canoza

"I have reduce(sic) my assets." - Rudy "Bill Flett" Canoza

"I really have explain(sic) fully why no one died to "preserve our liberty." - Rudy Canoza

"It would if were were(sic) writing in German, which, of course, we aren't." - Rudy "Bill Flett" Canoza

"You didn't even read you(sic) copypasta lie bullshit." - Rudy "Bill Flett" Canoza

"living rent-free in you(sic) diseased imagination." - Rudy Canoza

Yes, *YOU* know where I kicke(sic) your squat-to-piss no-fight faggot ass, you fat fairy. - Rudy Canoza

"No one aksed(sic) you, Google Groups faggot." - Rudy Canoza

"Eric Schild - hysterical histrionical estogen(sic)-oozing squat-to-piss fairy - squealed" - Rudy Canoza

Estogen? What the fuck is Estogen, brainiac?

"That exclude(sic) McEnany and you, and also Trump." - Rudy Canoza

"Oh, that's right: you're(sic) Nazi." - Rudy Canoza

Thursday, October 10, 2019: "Trump has *failed* to delegitimate(sic) the impeachment effort, as the growing public support for it shows." - Rudy
Canoza

Wednesday, August 4, 2020: "As I already explained: *every* word Trump says about the election is part of an attempt to try to delegitimate(sic) it
in advance." - Rudy Canoza

Tuesday, August 3, 2020: "Everything he says about the election is intended to destabilize and delegitimate(sic) it." - Rudy Canoza

Friday, August 7, 2020: "No. Trump's deliberate attempts to delegitimate(sic) the election are well proved." - Rudy Canoza

Funny how he *NEVER* uses that word AFTER I corrected the narcissistic idiot.

"[snip plagiarized bullshit that AlleyPussyBitch has'nt[sic] even read]" - Rudy Canoza - 6/15/21 - Contraction error...funny!

"I have reduce(sic) my assets." - "Bill Flett" - 6/12/21 - More verb tense problems for our uneducated lil guy. - Rudy Canoza

"I really have explain(sic) fully why no one died to 'preserve our liberty.'" - Wednesday is Verb Problem day for Dwarfling, "Rudy Canoza" 6/9/21

"It would if were[sic] were writing in German, which, of course, we aren't." - Rudy Canoza 6/8/21

"You didn't even read you[sic] copypasta lie bullshit." - Rudy Canoza - 6/8/21 - Pronoun problems for The Dwarf

"living rent-free in you[sic] diseased imagination." - "Rudy Canoza" - 2/10/21 - More dwarfish pronoun problems

"The(sic) did not "invade" anything, ratboy." --- "Rudy Canoza" 7/10/21 Article or pronoun? Which is it to be?

"The salient characteristic of right-wingnut shitbags like ratboy"(sic). --- "Rudy Canoza" 7/8/21 No verb, therefore it is not a sentence. Tsk-tsk.

"Fuck off with Delwaware."(sic) - "Rudy Canoza" 7/23/21 The Dwarfling discovers a new state!

"When Nazi sympathizer(sic) like you are exterminated" - "Orni Thopter" 7/23/21 Even Rudy's socks have problems with plurals. - Rudy Canoza

"*(A)ny*(sic) measure the(sic) either outright prevents eligible voters from voting"(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)(sic)
(sic)(sic) - "Rudy Canoza" 7/19/21 More problems with articles...

"She's an excellent judge, and his(sic) criticism of Trump's truly shitty lawyers is spot-on." - "Rudy Canoza" 7/12/21 More gender-shifting? Hahaha.