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AlleyCat
2024-06-11 01:19:51 UTC
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 07:11:51 -0700, J Carlson says...
Watch and listen to Trump explain how he would choose between
<https://twitter.com/KeejayOV3/status/1799900643034857547>
(86-second video at URL)
You can't make this shit up.
He's shot.
By the way, Trump is not yet a convicted felon. He doesn't become one until the
judge passes sentence.
Yup.

TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling Trump a
convicted felon.

I can't wait till he appeals and wins, making it so they can't do that any
more.

Will YOU cry too?

===

Joe Biden: Criminal

Phone Calls: Testimony from witnesses who told lawmakers Biden joined on
"multiple phone calls and had multiple interactions, dinners" with his son's
business partners, which the speaker alleged led to millions of dollars in
payments and cars to Hunter Biden and his associates.

Hunter Biden's former business partner Devon Archer testified to the House
Oversight Committee in July that he witnessed then-Vice President Biden and his
son have multiple "casual conversations" in the presence of Hunter's business
partners, including on speakerphone, but Archer said they did not involve any
business discussions.

Payments to Family Members: Bank records show Hunter Biden and his business
partners received $20 million in payments from various foreign entities and
about $7 million went directly to Biden family members, according to a
Washington Post analysis.

Bank Records: Suspicious Activity Reports detail various foreign transactions
Hunter Biden and his business partners engaged in-banks are required to file
these reports on a routine basis with the federal government to flag potential
illegal activity.

Bribery: Bribery allegation brought by an FBI source that alleges the CEO of
Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company Hunter Biden sat on the board of, paid $10
million to members of the Biden family to help remove a Ukrainian corruption
prosecutor.

The Bidens and their associates have received over $20 million in payments from
foreign entities.

Romania: On September 28, 2015, Vice President Biden welcomed Romanian
President Klaus Iohannis to the White House. Within five weeks of this meeting,
a Romanian businessman involved with a high-profile corruption prosecution in
Romania, Gabriel Popoviciu, began depositing a Biden associate's bank account,
which ultimately made their way into Biden family accounts. Popoviciu made
sixteen of the seventeen payments, totaling over $3 million, to the Biden
associate account while Joe Biden was Vice President. Biden family accounts
ultimately received approximately $1.038 million. The total amount from Romania
to the Biden family and their associates is over $3 million.

China- CEFC: On March 1, 2017-less than two months after Vice President Joe
Biden left public office-State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3
million to a Biden associate's account. This is the same bank account used in
the above "Romania" section. After the Chinese company wired the Biden
associate account the $3 million, the Biden family received approximately
$1,065,692 over a three-month period in different bank accounts. Additionally,
the CEFC Chairman gives Hunter Biden a diamond worth $80,000. Lastly, CEFC
creates a joint venture with the Bidens in the summer of 2017. The timeline
lays out the "WhatsApp" messages and subsequent wires from the Chinese to the
Bidens of $100,000 and $5 million. The total amount from China, specifically
with CEFC and their related entities, to the Biden family and their associates
is over $8 million.

China- Bohai Harvest RST Equity Investment Fund Management Co., Ltd. (BHR):
More information will be provided in our upcoming Fourth Bank Memorandum.

Kazakhstan: On April 22, 2014, Kenes Rakishev, a Kazakhstani oligarch used his
Singaporean entity, Novatus Holdings, to wire one of Hunter Biden's Rosemont
Seneca entities $142,300. The very next day-April 23, 2014-the Rosemont Seneca
entity transferred the exact same amount of money to a car dealership for a car
for Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer would represent Burisma in
Kazakhstan in May/June of 2014 as the company attempted to broker a three-way
deal among Burisma, the Kazakhstan government, and a Chinese state-owned energy
company.

Ukraine: Devon Archer joined the Burisma board of directors in spring of 2014
and was joined by Hunter Biden shortly thereafter. Hunter Biden joined the
company as counsel, but after a meeting with Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky in
Lake Como, Italy, was elevated to the board of directors in the spring of 2014.
Both Biden and Archer were each paid $1 million per year for their positions on
the board of directors. In December 2015, after a Burisma board of directors
meeting, Zlochevsky and Hunter Biden "called D.C." in the wake of mounting
pressures the company was facing. Zlochevsky was later charged with bribing
Ukrainian officials with $6 million in an attempt to delay or drop the
investigation into his company. The total amount from Ukraine to the Biden
family and their associates is $6.5 million.

Russia: On February 14, 2014, a Russian oligarch and Russia's richest woman,
Yelena Baturina, wired a Rosemont Seneca entity $3.5 million. On March 11,
2014, the wire was split up: $750,000 was transferred to Devon Archer, and the
remainder was sent to Rosemont Seneca Bohai, a company Devon Archer and Hunter
Biden split equally. In spring of 2014, Yelena Baturina joined Hunter Biden and
Devon Archer to share a meal with then-Vice President Biden at a restaurant in
Washington, D.C. The total amount from Russia to the Biden family and their
associates is $3.5 million.
Alan
2024-06-11 01:43:12 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 07:11:51 -0700, J Carlson says...
Watch and listen to Trump explain how he would choose between
<https://twitter.com/KeejayOV3/status/1799900643034857547>
(86-second video at URL)
You can't make this shit up.
He's shot.
By the way, Trump is not yet a convicted felon. He doesn't become one until the
judge passes sentence.
Yup.
TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling Trump a
convicted felon.
False.
AlleyCat
2024-06-11 02:14:14 UTC
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 18:43:12 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 07:11:51 -0700, J Carlson says...
Watch and listen to Trump explain how he would choose between
<https://twitter.com/KeejayOV3/status/1799900643034857547>
(86-second video at URL)
You can't make this shit up.
He's shot.
By the way, Trump is not yet a convicted felon. He doesn't become one until the
judge passes sentence.
Yup.
TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling Trump a
convicted felon.
False.
Which part?

===

Joe Biden: Criminal

Phone Calls: Testimony from witnesses who told lawmakers Biden joined on
"multiple phone calls and had multiple interactions, dinners" with his son's
business partners, which the speaker alleged led to millions of dollars in
payments and cars to Hunter Biden and his associates.

Hunter Biden's former business partner Devon Archer testified to the House
Oversight Committee in July that he witnessed then-Vice President Biden and his
son have multiple "casual conversations" in the presence of Hunter's business
partners, including on speakerphone, but Archer said they did not involve any
business discussions.

Payments to Family Members: Bank records show Hunter Biden and his business
partners received $20 million in payments from various foreign entities and
about $7 million went directly to Biden family members, according to a
Washington Post analysis.

Bank Records: Suspicious Activity Reports detail various foreign transactions
Hunter Biden and his business partners engaged in-banks are required to file
these reports on a routine basis with the federal government to flag potential
illegal activity.

Bribery: Bribery allegation brought by an FBI source that alleges the CEO of
Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company Hunter Biden sat on the board of, paid $10
million to members of the Biden family to help remove a Ukrainian corruption
prosecutor.

The Bidens and their associates have received over $20 million in payments from
foreign entities.

Romania: On September 28, 2015, Vice President Biden welcomed Romanian
President Klaus Iohannis to the White House. Within five weeks of this meeting,
a Romanian businessman involved with a high-profile corruption prosecution in
Romania, Gabriel Popoviciu, began depositing a Biden associate's bank account,
which ultimately made their way into Biden family accounts. Popoviciu made
sixteen of the seventeen payments, totaling over $3 million, to the Biden
associate account while Joe Biden was Vice President. Biden family accounts
ultimately received approximately $1.038 million. The total amount from Romania
to the Biden family and their associates is over $3 million.

China- CEFC: On March 1, 2017-less than two months after Vice President Joe
Biden left public office-State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3
million to a Biden associate's account. This is the same bank account used in
the above "Romania" section. After the Chinese company wired the Biden
associate account the $3 million, the Biden family received approximately
$1,065,692 over a three-month period in different bank accounts. Additionally,
the CEFC Chairman gives Hunter Biden a diamond worth $80,000. Lastly, CEFC
creates a joint venture with the Bidens in the summer of 2017. The timeline
lays out the "WhatsApp" messages and subsequent wires from the Chinese to the
Bidens of $100,000 and $5 million. The total amount from China, specifically
with CEFC and their related entities, to the Biden family and their associates
is over $8 million.

China- Bohai Harvest RST Equity Investment Fund Management Co., Ltd. (BHR):
More information will be provided in our upcoming Fourth Bank Memorandum.

Kazakhstan: On April 22, 2014, Kenes Rakishev, a Kazakhstani oligarch used his
Singaporean entity, Novatus Holdings, to wire one of Hunter Biden's Rosemont
Seneca entities $142,300. The very next day-April 23, 2014-the Rosemont Seneca
entity transferred the exact same amount of money to a car dealership for a car
for Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer would represent Burisma in
Kazakhstan in May/June of 2014 as the company attempted to broker a three-way
deal among Burisma, the Kazakhstan government, and a Chinese state-owned energy
company.

Ukraine: Devon Archer joined the Burisma board of directors in spring of 2014
and was joined by Hunter Biden shortly thereafter. Hunter Biden joined the
company as counsel, but after a meeting with Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky in
Lake Como, Italy, was elevated to the board of directors in the spring of 2014.
Both Biden and Archer were each paid $1 million per year for their positions on
the board of directors. In December 2015, after a Burisma board of directors
meeting, Zlochevsky and Hunter Biden "called D.C." in the wake of mounting
pressures the company was facing. Zlochevsky was later charged with bribing
Ukrainian officials with $6 million in an attempt to delay or drop the
investigation into his company. The total amount from Ukraine to the Biden
family and their associates is $6.5 million.

Russia: On February 14, 2014, a Russian oligarch and Russia's richest woman,
Yelena Baturina, wired a Rosemont Seneca entity $3.5 million. On March 11,
2014, the wire was split up: $750,000 was transferred to Devon Archer, and the
remainder was sent to Rosemont Seneca Bohai, a company Devon Archer and Hunter
Biden split equally. In spring of 2014, Yelena Baturina joined Hunter Biden and
Devon Archer to share a meal with then-Vice President Biden at a restaurant in
Washington, D.C. The total amount from Russia to the Biden family and their
associates is $3.5 million.
Alan
2024-06-11 02:22:20 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 18:43:12 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 07:11:51 -0700, J Carlson says...
Watch and listen to Trump explain how he would choose between
<https://twitter.com/KeejayOV3/status/1799900643034857547>
(86-second video at URL)
You can't make this shit up.
He's shot.
By the way, Trump is not yet a convicted felon. He doesn't become one until the
judge passes sentence.
Yup.
TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling Trump a
convicted felon.
False.
Which part?
That you're not a convicted felon until after sentencing, Loser-1.

'conviction
noun
1. a formal declaration by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a
judge in a court of law that someone is guilty of a criminal offence'

See that, Loser-1.
Loran
2024-06-11 15:23:08 UTC
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you're not a convicted felong
You should be dipped in hot asphalt and rolled flat.
AlleyCat
2024-06-11 04:56:49 UTC
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 18:43:12 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
By the way, Trump is not yet a convicted felon. He doesn't become one until the
judge passes sentence. - Rudy Canoza
Yup.
TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling Trump a
convicted felon.
False.
Which part?

===

Joe Biden: Criminal

Phone Calls: Testimony from witnesses who told lawmakers Biden joined on
"multiple phone calls and had multiple interactions, dinners" with his son's
business partners, which the speaker alleged led to millions of dollars in
payments and cars to Hunter Biden and his associates.

Hunter Biden's former business partner Devon Archer testified to the House
Oversight Committee in July that he witnessed then-Vice President Biden and his
son have multiple "casual conversations" in the presence of Hunter's business
partners, including on speakerphone, but Archer said they did not involve any
business discussions.

Payments to Family Members: Bank records show Hunter Biden and his business
partners received $20 million in payments from various foreign entities and
about $7 million went directly to Biden family members, according to a
Washington Post analysis.

Bank Records: Suspicious Activity Reports detail various foreign transactions
Hunter Biden and his business partners engaged in-banks are required to file
these reports on a routine basis with the federal government to flag potential
illegal activity.

Bribery: Bribery allegation brought by an FBI source that alleges the CEO of
Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company Hunter Biden sat on the board of, paid $10
million to members of the Biden family to help remove a Ukrainian corruption
prosecutor.

The Bidens and their associates have received over $20 million in payments from
foreign entities.

Romania: On September 28, 2015, Vice President Biden welcomed Romanian
President Klaus Iohannis to the White House. Within five weeks of this meeting,
a Romanian businessman involved with a high-profile corruption prosecution in
Romania, Gabriel Popoviciu, began depositing a Biden associate's bank account,
which ultimately made their way into Biden family accounts. Popoviciu made
sixteen of the seventeen payments, totaling over $3 million, to the Biden
associate account while Joe Biden was Vice President. Biden family accounts
ultimately received approximately $1.038 million. The total amount from Romania
to the Biden family and their associates is over $3 million.

China- CEFC: On March 1, 2017-less than two months after Vice President Joe
Biden left public office-State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3
million to a Biden associate's account. This is the same bank account used in
the above "Romania" section. After the Chinese company wired the Biden
associate account the $3 million, the Biden family received approximately
$1,065,692 over a three-month period in different bank accounts. Additionally,
the CEFC Chairman gives Hunter Biden a diamond worth $80,000. Lastly, CEFC
creates a joint venture with the Bidens in the summer of 2017. The timeline
lays out the "WhatsApp" messages and subsequent wires from the Chinese to the
Bidens of $100,000 and $5 million. The total amount from China, specifically
with CEFC and their related entities, to the Biden family and their associates
is over $8 million.

China- Bohai Harvest RST Equity Investment Fund Management Co., Ltd. (BHR):
More information will be provided in our upcoming Fourth Bank Memorandum.

Kazakhstan: On April 22, 2014, Kenes Rakishev, a Kazakhstani oligarch used his
Singaporean entity, Novatus Holdings, to wire one of Hunter Biden's Rosemont
Seneca entities $142,300. The very next day-April 23, 2014-the Rosemont Seneca
entity transferred the exact same amount of money to a car dealership for a car
for Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer would represent Burisma in
Kazakhstan in May/June of 2014 as the company attempted to broker a three-way
deal among Burisma, the Kazakhstan government, and a Chinese state-owned energy
company.

Ukraine: Devon Archer joined the Burisma board of directors in spring of 2014
and was joined by Hunter Biden shortly thereafter. Hunter Biden joined the
company as counsel, but after a meeting with Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky in
Lake Como, Italy, was elevated to the board of directors in the spring of 2014.
Both Biden and Archer were each paid $1 million per year for their positions on
the board of directors. In December 2015, after a Burisma board of directors
meeting, Zlochevsky and Hunter Biden "called D.C." in the wake of mounting
pressures the company was facing. Zlochevsky was later charged with bribing
Ukrainian officials with $6 million in an attempt to delay or drop the
investigation into his company. The total amount from Ukraine to the Biden
family and their associates is $6.5 million.

Russia: On February 14, 2014, a Russian oligarch and Russia's richest woman,
Yelena Baturina, wired a Rosemont Seneca entity $3.5 million. On March 11,
2014, the wire was split up: $750,000 was transferred to Devon Archer, and the
remainder was sent to Rosemont Seneca Bohai, a company Devon Archer and Hunter
Biden split equally. In spring of 2014, Yelena Baturina joined Hunter Biden and
Devon Archer to share a meal with then-Vice President Biden at a restaurant in
Washington, D.C. The total amount from Russia to the Biden family and their
associates is $3.5 million.
Alan
2024-06-11 05:02:28 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 18:43:12 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
By the way, Trump is not yet a convicted felon. He doesn't become one until the
judge passes sentence. - Rudy Canoza
Yup.
TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling Trump a
convicted felon.
False.
Which part?
Asked and answered, Loser-1.

What is this OCD thing that makes you post the same thing multiple times?
Loran
2024-06-11 15:27:41 UTC
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Post by Alan
What is this OCD thing
Your leftarded reptile brain falsing constantly.
AlleyCat
2024-06-12 00:23:00 UTC
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 22:02:28 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
By the way, Trump is not yet a convicted felon. He doesn't become one until the
judge passes sentence. - Rudy Canoza
Yup.
TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling Trump a
convicted felon.
False.
Which part?
Asked and answered, Loser-1.
Uhhh... nope. Not to me, anyway. Not here.

Maybe in another thread?

Which statement above is false... Rudy's or mine?

It'd common knowledge that you aren't a "convicted felon" until the sentencing.
And then, there's still th appeals, which CAN erase the conviction. So...

=====

Joe Biden: Criminal

Phone Calls: Testimony from witnesses who told lawmakers Biden joined on
"multiple phone calls and had multiple interactions, dinners" with his son's
business partners, which the speaker alleged led to millions of dollars in
payments and cars to Hunter Biden and his associates.

Hunter Biden's former business partner Devon Archer testified to the House
Oversight Committee in July that he witnessed then-Vice President Biden and his
son have multiple "casual conversations" in the presence of Hunter's business
partners, including on speakerphone, but Archer said they did not involve any
business discussions.

Payments to Family Members: Bank records show Hunter Biden and his business
partners received $20 million in payments from various foreign entities and
about $7 million went directly to Biden family members, according to a
Washington Post analysis.

Bank Records: Suspicious Activity Reports detail various foreign transactions
Hunter Biden and his business partners engaged in-banks are required to file
these reports on a routine basis with the federal government to flag potential
illegal activity.

Bribery: Bribery allegation brought by an FBI source that alleges the CEO of
Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company Hunter Biden sat on the board of, paid $10
million to members of the Biden family to help remove a Ukrainian corruption
prosecutor.

The Bidens and their associates have received over $20 million in payments from
foreign entities.

Romania: On September 28, 2015, Vice President Biden welcomed Romanian
President Klaus Iohannis to the White House. Within five weeks of this meeting,
a Romanian businessman involved with a high-profile corruption prosecution in
Romania, Gabriel Popoviciu, began depositing a Biden associate's bank account,
which ultimately made their way into Biden family accounts. Popoviciu made
sixteen of the seventeen payments, totaling over $3 million, to the Biden
associate account while Joe Biden was Vice President. Biden family accounts
ultimately received approximately $1.038 million. The total amount from Romania
to the Biden family and their associates is over $3 million.

China- CEFC: On March 1, 2017-less than two months after Vice President Joe
Biden left public office-State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3
million to a Biden associate's account. This is the same bank account used in
the above "Romania" section. After the Chinese company wired the Biden
associate account the $3 million, the Biden family received approximately
$1,065,692 over a three-month period in different bank accounts. Additionally,
the CEFC Chairman gives Hunter Biden a diamond worth $80,000. Lastly, CEFC
creates a joint venture with the Bidens in the summer of 2017. The timeline
lays out the "WhatsApp" messages and subsequent wires from the Chinese to the
Bidens of $100,000 and $5 million. The total amount from China, specifically
with CEFC and their related entities, to the Biden family and their associates
is over $8 million.

China- Bohai Harvest RST Equity Investment Fund Management Co., Ltd. (BHR):
More information will be provided in our upcoming Fourth Bank Memorandum.

Kazakhstan: On April 22, 2014, Kenes Rakishev, a Kazakhstani oligarch used his
Singaporean entity, Novatus Holdings, to wire one of Hunter Biden's Rosemont
Seneca entities $142,300. The very next day-April 23, 2014-the Rosemont Seneca
entity transferred the exact same amount of money to a car dealership for a car
for Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer would represent Burisma in
Kazakhstan in May/June of 2014 as the company attempted to broker a three-way
deal among Burisma, the Kazakhstan government, and a Chinese state-owned energy
company.

Ukraine: Devon Archer joined the Burisma board of directors in spring of 2014
and was joined by Hunter Biden shortly thereafter. Hunter Biden joined the
company as counsel, but after a meeting with Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky in
Lake Como, Italy, was elevated to the board of directors in the spring of 2014.
Both Biden and Archer were each paid $1 million per year for their positions on
the board of directors. In December 2015, after a Burisma board of directors
meeting, Zlochevsky and Hunter Biden "called D.C." in the wake of mounting
pressures the company was facing. Zlochevsky was later charged with bribing
Ukrainian officials with $6 million in an attempt to delay or drop the
investigation into his company. The total amount from Ukraine to the Biden
family and their associates is $6.5 million.

Russia: On February 14, 2014, a Russian oligarch and Russia's richest woman,
Yelena Baturina, wired a Rosemont Seneca entity $3.5 million. On March 11,
2014, the wire was split up: $750,000 was transferred to Devon Archer, and the
remainder was sent to Rosemont Seneca Bohai, a company Devon Archer and Hunter
Biden split equally. In spring of 2014, Yelena Baturina joined Hunter Biden and
Devon Archer to share a meal with then-Vice President Biden at a restaurant in
Washington, D.C. The total amount from Russia to the Biden family and their
associates is $3.5 million.
Alan
2024-06-12 00:39:44 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 22:02:28 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
By the way, Trump is not yet a convicted felon. He doesn't become one until the
judge passes sentence. - Rudy Canoza
Yup.
TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling Trump a
convicted felon.
False.
Which part?
Asked and answered, Loser-1.
Uhhh... nope. Not to me, anyway. Not here.
In a direct reply to you:

<quote>
Post by AlleyCat
Which part?
That you're not a convicted felon until after sentencing, Loser-1.

'conviction
noun
1. a formal declaration by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a
judge in a court of law that someone is guilty of a criminal offence'

See that, Loser-1.
</quote>

<v48ccs$rh7e$***@dont-email.me>
AlleyCat
2024-06-12 01:25:27 UTC
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I REALLY didn't think you could screw up as bad as that train wreck debacle,
but here we are.

Jury verdict aside...

Why Donald Trump...

... ISN'T A CONVICTED FELON

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

=====

Joe Biden: Criminal

Phone Calls: Testimony from witnesses who told lawmakers Biden joined on
"multiple phone calls and had multiple interactions, dinners" with his son's
business partners, which the speaker alleged led to millions of dollars in
payments and cars to Hunter Biden and his associates.

Hunter Biden's former business partner Devon Archer testified to the House
Oversight Committee in July that he witnessed then-Vice President Biden and his
son have multiple "casual conversations" in the presence of Hunter's business
partners, including on speakerphone, but Archer said they did not involve any
business discussions.

Payments to Family Members: Bank records show Hunter Biden and his business
partners received $20 million in payments from various foreign entities and
about $7 million went directly to Biden family members, according to a
Washington Post analysis.

Bank Records: Suspicious Activity Reports detail various foreign transactions
Hunter Biden and his business partners engaged in-banks are required to file
these reports on a routine basis with the federal government to flag potential
illegal activity.

Bribery: Bribery allegation brought by an FBI source that alleges the CEO of
Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company Hunter Biden sat on the board of, paid $10
million to members of the Biden family to help remove a Ukrainian corruption
prosecutor.

The Bidens and their associates have received over $20 million in payments from
foreign entities.

Romania: On September 28, 2015, Vice President Biden welcomed Romanian
President Klaus Iohannis to the White House. Within five weeks of this meeting,
a Romanian businessman involved with a high-profile corruption prosecution in
Romania, Gabriel Popoviciu, began depositing a Biden associate's bank account,
which ultimately made their way into Biden family accounts. Popoviciu made
sixteen of the seventeen payments, totaling over $3 million, to the Biden
associate account while Joe Biden was Vice President. Biden family accounts
ultimately received approximately $1.038 million. The total amount from Romania
to the Biden family and their associates is over $3 million.

China- CEFC: On March 1, 2017-less than two months after Vice President Joe
Biden left public office-State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3
million to a Biden associate's account. This is the same bank account used in
the above "Romania" section. After the Chinese company wired the Biden
associate account the $3 million, the Biden family received approximately
$1,065,692 over a three-month period in different bank accounts. Additionally,
the CEFC Chairman gives Hunter Biden a diamond worth $80,000. Lastly, CEFC
creates a joint venture with the Bidens in the summer of 2017. The timeline
lays out the "WhatsApp" messages and subsequent wires from the Chinese to the
Bidens of $100,000 and $5 million. The total amount from China, specifically
with CEFC and their related entities, to the Biden family and their associates
is over $8 million.

China- Bohai Harvest RST Equity Investment Fund Management Co., Ltd. (BHR):
More information will be provided in our upcoming Fourth Bank Memorandum.

Kazakhstan: On April 22, 2014, Kenes Rakishev, a Kazakhstani oligarch used his
Singaporean entity, Novatus Holdings, to wire one of Hunter Biden's Rosemont
Seneca entities $142,300. The very next day-April 23, 2014-the Rosemont Seneca
entity transferred the exact same amount of money to a car dealership for a car
for Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer would represent Burisma in
Kazakhstan in May/June of 2014 as the company attempted to broker a three-way
deal among Burisma, the Kazakhstan government, and a Chinese state-owned energy
company.

Ukraine: Devon Archer joined the Burisma board of directors in spring of 2014
and was joined by Hunter Biden shortly thereafter. Hunter Biden joined the
company as counsel, but after a meeting with Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky in
Lake Como, Italy, was elevated to the board of directors in the spring of 2014.
Both Biden and Archer were each paid $1 million per year for their positions on
the board of directors. In December 2015, after a Burisma board of directors
meeting, Zlochevsky and Hunter Biden "called D.C." in the wake of mounting
pressures the company was facing. Zlochevsky was later charged with bribing
Ukrainian officials with $6 million in an attempt to delay or drop the
investigation into his company. The total amount from Ukraine to the Biden
family and their associates is $6.5 million.

Russia: On February 14, 2014, a Russian oligarch and Russia's richest woman,
Yelena Baturina, wired a Rosemont Seneca entity $3.5 million. On March 11,
2014, the wire was split up: $750,000 was transferred to Devon Archer, and the
remainder was sent to Rosemont Seneca Bohai, a company Devon Archer and Hunter
Biden split equally. In spring of 2014, Yelena Baturina joined Hunter Biden and
Devon Archer to share a meal with then-Vice President Biden at a restaurant in
Washington, D.C. The total amount from Russia to the Biden family and their
associates is $3.5 million.
Alan
2024-06-12 01:37:32 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
I REALLY didn't think you could screw up as bad as that train wreck debacle,
but here we are.
Jury verdict aside...
Why Donald Trump...
... ISN'T A CONVICTED FELON
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.
Blah, blah, blah...

You should simply have looked up New York State law, Loser-1:

'Conviction

” means the entry of a plea of guilty to, or a verdict of guilty upon,
an accusatory instrument other than a felony complaint, or to one or
more counts of such instrument, as defined in section 1.20 of the
Criminal Procedure Law.'

<https://regs.health.ny.gov/content/section-10002-criminal-convictions>
AlleyCat
2024-06-12 03:25:26 UTC
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... Donald Trump is STILL not a convicted felon.
'Conviction (by JURY and NOT judge)
Blah, blah, blah...

Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT a convicted felon. Doesn't REALLY
matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE
HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN NEW YORK, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

==============================================================================

:Below

Reuters:
WILL TRUMP GO TO PRISON?
That is unlikely.

CAN TRUMP APPEAL THE CONVICTION?
Yes.

Trump is likely to make arguments that Merchan rejected ahead of trial,
including that the indictment is legally flawed and politically motivated.

COULD TRUMP STILL BE PRESIDENT?
Yes.

[giggle]
Alan
2024-06-12 03:27:33 UTC
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... Donald Trump is STILL not a convicted felon.
'Conviction (by JURY and NOT judge)
Blah, blah, blah...
Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?
Isn't it interesting that you had to snip what I said?

''Conviction

” means the entry of a plea of guilty to, or a verdict of guilty'

There has been a verdict of guilty, and the judge of the case doesn't
enter a "judgment of guilt", Loser-1
AlleyCat
2024-06-12 04:28:39 UTC
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Don't bother replying to this. You lost... suck it up, buttercup.

On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 20:27:33 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by Alan
'Conviction (by JURY and NOT judge)
Blah, blah, blah...
Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?
Isn't it interesting that you had to snip what I said?
Not at all... you went off-"SUB-THREAD" again, hence the snout-smack. I WILL
snip every time you try to change the gist of the conversation by harping on
the minutiae... in this case the word "conviction".

The words are "convicted felon", you pedantic pansy ass little child.

You're wrong anyway. The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so
no... NO CONVICTION, and CERTAINLY no "convicted felon".

I do not CARE what the definition of conviction is and I spelled it out for you
anyways... the JUDGE hasn't entered a judgment of guilt?

Again, moron... Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon
because the judge has not entered a judgment of guilt.

See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.

My reply to Rudy had NOTHING to do with "conviction".

Rudy:
By the way, Trump is not yet a CONVICTED FELON. He doesn't become one until the
judge passes sentence. (and validates the jury's verdict)

AlleyCat:
Yup.

TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling Trump a
convicted felon.

I can't wait till he appeals and wins, making it so they can't do that any
more.

Will YOU cry too?

=====

Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT a convicted felon. Doesn't REALLY
matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE
HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN NEW YORK, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

==============================================================================
Alan
2024-06-12 06:23:13 UTC
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Don't bother replying to this. You lost... suck it up, buttercup.
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 20:27:33 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by Alan
'Conviction (by JURY and NOT judge)
Blah, blah, blah...
Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?
Isn't it interesting that you had to snip what I said?
Not at all... you went off-"SUB-THREAD" again, hence the snout-smack. I WILL
snip every time you try to change the gist of the conversation by harping on
the minutiae... in this case the word "conviction".
The words are "convicted felon", you pedantic pansy ass little child.
You're wrong anyway. The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so
no... NO CONVICTION, and CERTAINLY no "convicted felon".
New York State law...

...(which I quoted and you snipped)...

...says differently.

Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
Loran
2024-06-12 14:55:31 UTC
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Post by Alan
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
But not the formal administration of a "felony".

That occurs *after* sentencing.

And that sentencing isn't until July 11th, so this obvious bit of
corruption is now out;

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutor-set-congress-july-12-111025235

WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg
has agreed to testify before Congress on July 12, a day after former
President Donald Trump’s sentencing in his hush money trial.

A spokesperson for Bragg's office confirmed Tuesday that he will appear
before the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal
Government alongside Matthew Colangelo, the former high-ranking Justice
Department official who was hired by Bragg in 2022 and helped lead the
Trump investigation.


...just so you know...

DUMB FUCK!
Alan
2024-06-12 16:17:58 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
But not the formal administration of a "felony".
Incorrect.
Post by Loran
That occurs *after* sentencing.
You are convicted when the jury's verdict is announced.

Period.
Post by Loran
And that sentencing isn't until July 11th, so this obvious bit of
corruption is now out;
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutor-set-congress-july-12-111025235
WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg
has agreed to testify before Congress on July 12, a day after former
President Donald Trump’s sentencing in his hush money trial.
And?
Post by Loran
A spokesperson for Bragg's office confirmed Tuesday that he will appear
before the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal
Government alongside Matthew Colangelo, the former high-ranking Justice
Department official who was hired by Bragg in 2022 and helped lead the
Trump investigation.
...just so you know...
DUMB FUCK!
CaLaVeRa
2024-06-12 20:09:44 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
But not the formal administration of a "felony".
Incorrect.
July 11th, you know this is his sentencing date, so stop squirming.
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
That occurs *after* sentencing.
You are convicted when the jury's verdict is announced.
Period.
"That" refers to: the formal administration of a "felony".

You knew that too, but decided to disingenuously change the subject of
the modifier, as you always do when beaten down.
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
And that sentencing isn't until July 11th, so this obvious bit of
corruption is now out;
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutor-set-congress-july-12-111025235
WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin
Bragg has agreed to testify before Congress on July 12, a day after
former President Donald Trump’s sentencing in his hush money trial.
And?
Obvious show trial, obvious show after trial, obvious grandstanding
after sentencing date.

Nuff said.
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
A spokesperson for Bragg's office confirmed Tuesday that he will
appear before the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of
the Federal Government alongside Matthew Colangelo, the former
high-ranking Justice Department official who was hired by Bragg in
2022 and helped lead the Trump investigation.
...just so you know...
DUMB FUCK!
Still a dumb fuck we see.
Alan
2024-06-12 20:12:42 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
But not the formal administration of a "felony".
Incorrect.
July 11th, you know this is his sentencing date, so stop squirming.
And as you've admitted it is taking place AFTER his conviction.
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
That occurs *after* sentencing.
You are convicted when the jury's verdict is announced.
Period.
"That" refers to:  the formal administration of a "felony".
You knew that too, but decided to disingenuously change the subject of
the modifier, as you always do when beaten down.
Nope. I showed you the law.
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
And that sentencing isn't until July 11th, so this obvious bit of
corruption is now out;
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutor-set-congress-july-12-111025235
WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin
Bragg has agreed to testify before Congress on July 12, a day after
former President Donald Trump’s sentencing in his hush money trial.
And?
Obvious show trial, obvious show after trial, obvious grandstanding
after sentencing date.
While Trump has been convicted, the case is not over until after sentencing.
Loran
2024-06-12 23:08:09 UTC
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While Trump has been convicted, the case is not over until after sentencing.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Loran
2024-06-12 23:08:41 UTC
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Post by Alan
You are convicted when the jury's verdict is announced.
Period.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Alan
2024-06-12 16:25:03 UTC
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Post by Alan
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
But not the formal administration of a "felony".
That occurs *after* sentencing.
And that sentencing isn't until July 11th, so this obvious bit of
corruption is now out;
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutor-set-congress-july-12-111025235
WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg
has agreed to testify before Congress on July 12, a day after former
President Donald Trump’s sentencing in his hush money trial.
A spokesperson for Bragg's office confirmed Tuesday that he will appear
before the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal
Government alongside Matthew Colangelo, the former high-ranking Justice
Department official who was hired by Bragg in 2022 and helped lead the
Trump investigation.
...just so you know...
DUMB FUCK!
'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the defendant at
the time the conviction is entered if:'

<https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cpl/part-2/title-l/article-380/380-30/>

That language means beyond any doubt that sentencing is NOT when you are
convicted.
CaLaVeRa
2024-06-12 19:56:48 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
But not the formal administration of a "felony".
That occurs *after* sentencing.
And that sentencing isn't until July 11th, so this obvious bit of
corruption is now out;
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutor-set-congress-july-12-111025235
WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin
Bragg has agreed to testify before Congress on July 12, a day after
former President Donald Trump’s sentencing in his hush money trial.
A spokesperson for Bragg's office confirmed Tuesday that he will
appear before the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of
the Federal Government alongside Matthew Colangelo, the former
high-ranking Justice Department official who was hired by Bragg in
2022 and helped lead the Trump investigation.
...just so you know...
DUMB FUCK!
'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the defendant at
the time the conviction...
Which they chose not to.

July 11th.

Memorize it, denial bot.

Until then - no formal administration of a "felony".

Ta.
Alan
2024-06-12 20:04:26 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
But not the formal administration of a "felony".
That occurs *after* sentencing.
And that sentencing isn't until July 11th, so this obvious bit of
corruption is now out;
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutor-set-congress-july-12-111025235
WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin
Bragg has agreed to testify before Congress on July 12, a day after
former President Donald Trump’s sentencing in his hush money trial.
A spokesperson for Bragg's office confirmed Tuesday that he will
appear before the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of
the Federal Government alongside Matthew Colangelo, the former
high-ranking Justice Department official who was hired by Bragg in
2022 and helped lead the Trump investigation.
...just so you know...
DUMB FUCK!
'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the defendant
at the time the conviction...
Which they chose not to.
But not sentencing him at the time of conviction means that the time of
conviction is definitely prior to sentencing.

Is English not your first language?

Were you home schooled, maybe?
CaLaVeRa
2024-06-12 20:14:56 UTC
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Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
But not the formal administration of a "felony".
That occurs *after* sentencing.
And that sentencing isn't until July 11th, so this obvious bit of
corruption is now out;
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutor-set-congress-july-12-111025235
WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin
Bragg has agreed to testify before Congress on July 12, a day after
former President Donald Trump’s sentencing in his hush money trial.
A spokesperson for Bragg's office confirmed Tuesday that he will
appear before the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of
the Federal Government alongside Matthew Colangelo, the former
high-ranking Justice Department official who was hired by Bragg in
2022 and helped lead the Trump investigation.
...just so you know...
DUMB FUCK!
'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the defendant
at the time the conviction...
Which they chose not to.
But not sentencing him at the time of conviction means that the time of
conviction is definitely prior to sentencing.
Point sustained.

July 11th = sentencing date.

Case closed, for now.

The corrupted juror mistrial will make it all moot anyway.

Along with the corrupted jury instructions from the corrupt judge.

And the corrupted decision to prosecute on matters past their statute of
limitations.

Ta.
Post by Alan
Is English not your first language?
Were you home schooled, maybe?
Were you taught to lie about everything at an early age?
Alan
2024-06-12 20:44:11 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
But not the formal administration of a "felony".
That occurs *after* sentencing.
And that sentencing isn't until July 11th, so this obvious bit of
corruption is now out;
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutor-set-congress-july-12-111025235
WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin
Bragg has agreed to testify before Congress on July 12, a day after
former President Donald Trump’s sentencing in his hush money trial.
A spokesperson for Bragg's office confirmed Tuesday that he will
appear before the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of
the Federal Government alongside Matthew Colangelo, the former
high-ranking Justice Department official who was hired by Bragg in
2022 and helped lead the Trump investigation.
...just so you know...
DUMB FUCK!
'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the
defendant at the time the conviction...
Which they chose not to.
But not sentencing him at the time of conviction means that the time
of conviction is definitely prior to sentencing.
Point sustained.
July 11th = sentencing date.
Explain how someone can be sentenced after conviction...

...if they're not actually convicted until sentencing, Loser-2.
Loran
2024-06-12 20:52:24 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
But not the formal administration of a "felony".
That occurs *after* sentencing.
And that sentencing isn't until July 11th, so this obvious bit of
corruption is now out;
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutor-set-congress-july-12-111025235
WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin
Bragg has agreed to testify before Congress on July 12, a day
after former President Donald Trump’s sentencing in his hush money
trial.
A spokesperson for Bragg's office confirmed Tuesday that he will
appear before the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization
of the Federal Government alongside Matthew Colangelo, the former
high-ranking Justice Department official who was hired by Bragg in
2022 and helped lead the Trump investigation.
...just so you know...
DUMB FUCK!
'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the
defendant at the time the conviction...
Which they chose not to.
But not sentencing him at the time of conviction means that the time
of conviction is definitely prior to sentencing.
Point sustained.
July 11th = sentencing date.
Explain how someone can be sentenced after conviction...
Pretty easily according to NY state law:

https://nyccriminallawyer.com/ny-criminal-system/sentencing-in-new-york/

New York City Criminal Attorney Explains “Sentencing”


SENTENCING occurs post-conviction and can be decided by either judge or
jury. Essentially this is the “punishment” for your conviction in a
crime. Some crimes have what is called “mandatory” sentencing, meaning
that the judge is limited in leniency by statutes and regulations.

It’s a common misconception that juries rather than judges determine
sentences for crimes. While this is usually true in capital punishment
cases, it’s not true for other types of cases. Judges determine the
punishment, or sentence, for a crime. After being convicted, or found
guilty, of a crime, no matter how the conviction came about, the
appropriate punishment is doled out by the judge.

There are many different types of sentences that judges can impose upon you:

– Monetary retribution in the form of fines or restitution.
– Incarceration in jail for up to one year.
– Incarceration in prison for over one year.
– Probation, which is in essence, a suspended sentence that may be
revoked if terms are violated.
– Community service.
– Work ethic camp.
– Drug and alcohol rehabilitation.
– Deferred Adjudication / Pretrial Diversion – these programs offer
defendants a chance to avoid a criminal record.

Unless there are extenuating circumstances, sentencing comes almost
immediately after a conviction when the infractions committed are not
“serious” crimes or when the defendant enters a guilty plea. In criminal
cases where the outcome weighs more heavily upon the convicted person
and his/her victims, outside opinions will be taken into consideration
before a sentence is handed down. The prosecution, defense and probation
department will all have their say, and the probation department’s
pre-sentence report is taken into consideration. Normally, a judge will
consider the following factors before handing down a sentence:



– Criminal history or lack thereof.
– If the defendant was the perpetrator or an accessory.
– If the crime was committed under duress or extreme stress.
– Whether or not anyone was injured or put people at risk of being injured.
– Amount of cruelty, destruction, or vindictiveness the defendant showed
towards the victim.
– Remorse.

There are different types of sentences that can be handed down by the
judge. They include:



Concurrent sentences are ones that must be served simultaneously with
another sentence.
Consecutive sentences are ones where the defendant is convicted of
several counts of a crime and the punishment must be served one sentence
after another with no “breaks.”
Deferred sentences are sentences that must be served at a later time.
Determinate sentences are exact in their time frame and the entire
sentence must be completed before released from prison or jail.
Final sentencing concludes a criminal case, whereas interlocutory or
interim sentencing is not.
Indeterminate sentences are ones that end in the phrasing “not more
than” or “not less than” a specific amount of time.
Mandatory sentences are created by state law and give the judge no
options for leniency. Every day of a mandatory sentence must be served.
Maximum sentences are used in cases where cries were committed in the
extreme. The sentence is the limit of how long a person can be held for
a crime before the state is required to release that person.
Minimum sentences are used to set the minimum amount of time a person
must spend in prison before being released on parole.
Presumptive sentences are those which specify an average time frame to
be used as a basis for the amount of time one must spend behind bars.
Flat sentences are ones without a minimum or maximum specified time frame.
Suspended sentences are ones that are postponed after a conviction or it
may be one that postpones a sentence until it has been pronounced.


Before a sentence is handed down, your defense attorney will have the
chance to speak on behalf of the defendant or you have the opportunity
to use your own voice. The prosecution also has the chance to speak.
Post by Alan
...if they're not actually convicted until sentencing,
\\__YOU'RE STUCK IN A WHIRLPOOL OF YOUR OWN SEMANTIC NITWITTERY__//

Trump will not be formally sentenced until July 11th.

Period.
Alan
2024-06-12 20:55:18 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
But not the formal administration of a "felony".
That occurs *after* sentencing.
And that sentencing isn't until July 11th, so this obvious bit of
corruption is now out;
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutor-set-congress-july-12-111025235
WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin
Bragg has agreed to testify before Congress on July 12, a day
after former President Donald Trump’s sentencing in his hush
money trial.
A spokesperson for Bragg's office confirmed Tuesday that he will
appear before the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization
of the Federal Government alongside Matthew Colangelo, the former
high-ranking Justice Department official who was hired by Bragg
in 2022 and helped lead the Trump investigation.
...just so you know...
DUMB FUCK!
'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the
defendant at the time the conviction...
Which they chose not to.
But not sentencing him at the time of conviction means that the time
of conviction is definitely prior to sentencing.
Point sustained.
July 11th = sentencing date.
Explain how someone can be sentenced after conviction...
Do you even do more than look up words, Loser-2?
Post by Loran
https://nyccriminallawyer.com/ny-criminal-system/sentencing-in-new-york/
New York City Criminal Attorney Explains “Sentencing”
SENTENCING occurs post-conviction and can be decided by either judge or
"post-conviction" i.e. "after conviction".

Let's rewrite that sentence:

"SENTENCING occurs after conviction..."
Post by Loran
jury. Essentially this is the “punishment” for your conviction in a
crime. Some crimes have what is called “mandatory” sentencing, meaning
that the judge is limited in leniency by statutes and regulations.
It’s a common misconception that juries rather than judges determine
sentences for crimes. While this is usually true in capital punishment
cases, it’s not true for other types of cases. Judges determine the
punishment, or sentence, for a crime. After being convicted, or found
guilty, of a crime, no matter how the conviction came about, the
appropriate punishment is doled out by the judge.
– Monetary retribution in the form of fines or restitution.
– Incarceration in jail for up to one year.
– Incarceration in prison for over one year.
– Probation, which is in essence, a suspended sentence that may be
revoked if terms are violated.
– Community service.
– Work ethic camp.
– Drug and alcohol rehabilitation.
– Deferred Adjudication / Pretrial Diversion – these programs offer
defendants a chance to avoid a criminal record.
Unless there are extenuating circumstances, sentencing comes almost
immediately after a conviction when the infractions committed are not
“serious” crimes or when the defendant enters a guilty plea. In criminal
cases where the outcome weighs more heavily upon the convicted person
and his/her victims, outside opinions will be taken into consideration
before a sentence is handed down. The prosecution, defense and probation
department will all have their say, and the probation department’s
pre-sentence report is taken into consideration. Normally, a judge will
– Criminal history or lack thereof.
– If the defendant was the perpetrator or an accessory.
– If the crime was committed under duress or extreme stress.
– Whether or not anyone was injured or put people at risk of being injured.
– Amount of cruelty, destruction, or vindictiveness the defendant showed
towards the victim.
– Remorse.
There are different types of sentences that can be handed down by the
Concurrent sentences are ones that must be served simultaneously with
another sentence.
Consecutive sentences are ones where the defendant is convicted of
several counts of a crime and the punishment must be served one sentence
after another with no “breaks.”
Deferred sentences are sentences that must be served at a later time.
Determinate sentences are exact in their time frame and the entire
sentence must be completed before released from prison or jail.
Final sentencing concludes a criminal case, whereas interlocutory or
interim sentencing is not.
Indeterminate sentences are ones that end in the phrasing “not more
than” or “not less than” a specific amount of time.
Mandatory sentences are created by state law and give the judge no
options for leniency. Every day of a mandatory sentence must be served.
Maximum sentences are used in cases where cries were committed in the
extreme. The sentence is the limit of how long a person can be held for
a crime before the state is required to release that person.
Minimum sentences are used to set the minimum amount of time a person
must spend in prison before being released on parole.
Presumptive sentences are those which specify an average time frame to
be used as a basis for the amount of time one must spend behind bars.
Flat sentences are ones without a minimum or maximum specified time frame.
Suspended sentences are ones that are postponed after a conviction or it
may be one that postpones a sentence until it has been pronounced.
Before a sentence is handed down, your defense attorney will have the
chance to speak on behalf of the defendant or you have the opportunity
to use your own voice. The prosecution also has the chance to speak.
Post by Alan
...if they're not actually convicted until sentencing,
\\__YOU'RE STUCK IN A WHIRLPOOL OF YOUR OWN SEMANTIC NITWITTERY__//
Trump will not be formally sentenced until July 11th.
Period.
"SENTENCING occurs after conviction..."
Loran
2024-06-12 20:59:01 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
But not the formal administration of a "felony".
That occurs *after* sentencing.
And that sentencing isn't until July 11th, so this obvious bit
of corruption is now out;
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutor-set-congress-july-12-111025235
WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) — Manhattan District Attorney
Alvin Bragg has agreed to testify before Congress on July 12, a
day after former President Donald Trump’s sentencing in his hush
money trial.
A spokesperson for Bragg's office confirmed Tuesday that he will
appear before the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization
of the Federal Government alongside Matthew Colangelo, the
former high-ranking Justice Department official who was hired by
Bragg in 2022 and helped lead the Trump investigation.
...just so you know...
DUMB FUCK!
'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the
defendant at the time the conviction...
Which they chose not to.
But not sentencing him at the time of conviction means that the
time of conviction is definitely prior to sentencing.
Point sustained.
July 11th = sentencing date.
Explain how someone can be sentenced after conviction...
Do you even do more than look up words, Loser-2?
Words have meanings, please learn from the material shared here, moron.
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
https://nyccriminallawyer.com/ny-criminal-system/sentencing-in-new-york/
New York City Criminal Attorney Explains “Sentencing”
SENTENCING occurs post-conviction and can be decided by either judge or
"post-conviction" i.e. "after conviction".
"SENTENCING occurs after conviction..."
Post by Loran
jury. Essentially this is the “punishment” for your conviction in a
crime. Some crimes have what is called “mandatory” sentencing, meaning
that the judge is limited in leniency by statutes and regulations.
It’s a common misconception that juries rather than judges determine
sentences for crimes. While this is usually true in capital punishment
cases, it’s not true for other types of cases. Judges determine the
punishment, or sentence, for a crime. After being convicted, or found
guilty, of a crime, no matter how the conviction came about, the
appropriate punishment is doled out by the judge.
– Monetary retribution in the form of fines or restitution.
– Incarceration in jail for up to one year.
– Incarceration in prison for over one year.
– Probation, which is in essence, a suspended sentence that may be
revoked if terms are violated.
– Community service.
– Work ethic camp.
– Drug and alcohol rehabilitation.
– Deferred Adjudication / Pretrial Diversion – these programs offer
defendants a chance to avoid a criminal record.
Unless there are extenuating circumstances, sentencing comes almost
immediately after a conviction when the infractions committed are not
“serious” crimes or when the defendant enters a guilty plea. In
criminal cases where the outcome weighs more heavily upon the
convicted person and his/her victims, outside opinions will be taken
into consideration before a sentence is handed down. The prosecution,
defense and probation department will all have their say, and the
probation department’s pre-sentence report is taken into
consideration. Normally, a judge will consider the following factors
– Criminal history or lack thereof.
– If the defendant was the perpetrator or an accessory.
– If the crime was committed under duress or extreme stress.
– Whether or not anyone was injured or put people at risk of being injured.
– Amount of cruelty, destruction, or vindictiveness the defendant
showed towards the victim.
– Remorse.
There are different types of sentences that can be handed down by the
Concurrent sentences are ones that must be served simultaneously with
another sentence.
Consecutive sentences are ones where the defendant is convicted of
several counts of a crime and the punishment must be served one
sentence after another with no “breaks.”
Deferred sentences are sentences that must be served at a later time.
Determinate sentences are exact in their time frame and the entire
sentence must be completed before released from prison or jail.
Final sentencing concludes a criminal case, whereas interlocutory or
interim sentencing is not.
Indeterminate sentences are ones that end in the phrasing “not more
than” or “not less than” a specific amount of time.
Mandatory sentences are created by state law and give the judge no
options for leniency. Every day of a mandatory sentence must be served.
Maximum sentences are used in cases where cries were committed in the
extreme. The sentence is the limit of how long a person can be held
for a crime before the state is required to release that person.
Minimum sentences are used to set the minimum amount of time a person
must spend in prison before being released on parole.
Presumptive sentences are those which specify an average time frame to
be used as a basis for the amount of time one must spend behind bars.
Flat sentences are ones without a minimum or maximum specified time frame.
Suspended sentences are ones that are postponed after a conviction or
it may be one that postpones a sentence until it has been pronounced.
Before a sentence is handed down, your defense attorney will have the
chance to speak on behalf of the defendant or you have the opportunity
to use your own voice. The prosecution also has the chance to speak.
Post by Alan
...if they're not actually convicted until sentencing,
\\__YOU'RE STUCK IN A WHIRLPOOL OF YOUR OWN SEMANTIC NITWITTERY__//
Trump will not be formally sentenced until July 11th.
Period.
"SENTENCING occurs after conviction..."
It would be only slightly abnormal for it to occur before, much as Judge
Merchan and Bragg would have preferred it to!

But as badly as they queered their co-prosecution anything is up for
grabs now.

Learn what mistrial means.

You have permission to look that up yourself after you clap all the
erasers out, child.
Alan
2024-06-12 21:05:25 UTC
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Post by Alan
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Post by Alan
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
But not the formal administration of a "felony".
That occurs *after* sentencing.
And that sentencing isn't until July 11th, so this obvious bit
of corruption is now out;
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutor-set-congress-july-12-111025235
WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) — Manhattan District Attorney
Alvin Bragg has agreed to testify before Congress on July 12, a
day after former President Donald Trump’s sentencing in his
hush money trial.
A spokesperson for Bragg's office confirmed Tuesday that he
will appear before the House Select Subcommittee on the
Weaponization of the Federal Government alongside Matthew
Colangelo, the former high-ranking Justice Department official
who was hired by Bragg in 2022 and helped lead the Trump
investigation.
...just so you know...
DUMB FUCK!
'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the
defendant at the time the conviction...
Which they chose not to.
But not sentencing him at the time of conviction means that the
time of conviction is definitely prior to sentencing.
Point sustained.
July 11th = sentencing date.
Explain how someone can be sentenced after conviction...
Do you even do more than look up words, Loser-2?
Words have meanings, please learn from the material shared here, moron.
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
https://nyccriminallawyer.com/ny-criminal-system/sentencing-in-new-york/
New York City Criminal Attorney Explains “Sentencing”
SENTENCING occurs post-conviction and can be decided by either judge or
"post-conviction" i.e. "after conviction".
"SENTENCING occurs after conviction..."
Post by Loran
jury. Essentially this is the “punishment” for your conviction in a
crime. Some crimes have what is called “mandatory” sentencing,
meaning that the judge is limited in leniency by statutes and
regulations.
It’s a common misconception that juries rather than judges determine
sentences for crimes. While this is usually true in capital
punishment cases, it’s not true for other types of cases. Judges
determine the punishment, or sentence, for a crime. After being
convicted, or found guilty, of a crime, no matter how the conviction
came about, the appropriate punishment is doled out by the judge.
– Monetary retribution in the form of fines or restitution.
– Incarceration in jail for up to one year.
– Incarceration in prison for over one year.
– Probation, which is in essence, a suspended sentence that may be
revoked if terms are violated.
– Community service.
– Work ethic camp.
– Drug and alcohol rehabilitation.
– Deferred Adjudication / Pretrial Diversion – these programs offer
defendants a chance to avoid a criminal record.
Unless there are extenuating circumstances, sentencing comes almost
immediately after a conviction when the infractions committed are not
“serious” crimes or when the defendant enters a guilty plea. In
criminal cases where the outcome weighs more heavily upon the
convicted person and his/her victims, outside opinions will be taken
into consideration before a sentence is handed down. The prosecution,
defense and probation department will all have their say, and the
probation department’s pre-sentence report is taken into
consideration. Normally, a judge will consider the following factors
– Criminal history or lack thereof.
– If the defendant was the perpetrator or an accessory.
– If the crime was committed under duress or extreme stress.
– Whether or not anyone was injured or put people at risk of being injured.
– Amount of cruelty, destruction, or vindictiveness the defendant
showed towards the victim.
– Remorse.
There are different types of sentences that can be handed down by the
Concurrent sentences are ones that must be served simultaneously with
another sentence.
Consecutive sentences are ones where the defendant is convicted of
several counts of a crime and the punishment must be served one
sentence after another with no “breaks.”
Deferred sentences are sentences that must be served at a later time.
Determinate sentences are exact in their time frame and the entire
sentence must be completed before released from prison or jail.
Final sentencing concludes a criminal case, whereas interlocutory or
interim sentencing is not.
Indeterminate sentences are ones that end in the phrasing “not more
than” or “not less than” a specific amount of time.
Mandatory sentences are created by state law and give the judge no
options for leniency. Every day of a mandatory sentence must be served.
Maximum sentences are used in cases where cries were committed in the
extreme. The sentence is the limit of how long a person can be held
for a crime before the state is required to release that person.
Minimum sentences are used to set the minimum amount of time a person
must spend in prison before being released on parole.
Presumptive sentences are those which specify an average time frame
to be used as a basis for the amount of time one must spend behind bars.
Flat sentences are ones without a minimum or maximum specified time frame.
Suspended sentences are ones that are postponed after a conviction or
it may be one that postpones a sentence until it has been pronounced.
Before a sentence is handed down, your defense attorney will have the
chance to speak on behalf of the defendant or you have the
opportunity to use your own voice. The prosecution also has the
chance to speak.
Post by Alan
...if they're not actually convicted until sentencing,
\\__YOU'RE STUCK IN A WHIRLPOOL OF YOUR OWN SEMANTIC NITWITTERY__//
Trump will not be formally sentenced until July 11th.
Period.
"SENTENCING occurs after conviction..."
It would be only slightly abnormal for it to occur before, much as Judge
Merchan and  Bragg would have preferred it to!
Yes... ...words have meanings.

And sentencing coming AFTER conviction means that one is convictED
BEFORE sentencing.
Loran
2024-06-12 21:10:26 UTC
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Post by Alan
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Post by Alan
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
But not the formal administration of a "felony".
That occurs *after* sentencing.
And that sentencing isn't until July 11th, so this obvious bit
of corruption is now out;
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutor-set-congress-july-12-111025235
WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) — Manhattan District Attorney
Alvin Bragg has agreed to testify before Congress on July 12,
a day after former President Donald Trump’s sentencing in his
hush money trial.
A spokesperson for Bragg's office confirmed Tuesday that he
will appear before the House Select Subcommittee on the
Weaponization of the Federal Government alongside Matthew
Colangelo, the former high-ranking Justice Department official
who was hired by Bragg in 2022 and helped lead the Trump
investigation.
...just so you know...
DUMB FUCK!
'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the
defendant at the time the conviction...
Which they chose not to.
But not sentencing him at the time of conviction means that the
time of conviction is definitely prior to sentencing.
Point sustained.
July 11th = sentencing date.
Explain how someone can be sentenced after conviction...
Do you even do more than look up words, Loser-2?
Words have meanings, please learn from the material shared here, moron.
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
https://nyccriminallawyer.com/ny-criminal-system/sentencing-in-new-york/
New York City Criminal Attorney Explains “Sentencing”
SENTENCING occurs post-conviction and can be decided by either judge or
"post-conviction" i.e. "after conviction".
"SENTENCING occurs after conviction..."
Post by Loran
jury. Essentially this is the “punishment” for your conviction in a
crime. Some crimes have what is called “mandatory” sentencing,
meaning that the judge is limited in leniency by statutes and
regulations.
It’s a common misconception that juries rather than judges determine
sentences for crimes. While this is usually true in capital
punishment cases, it’s not true for other types of cases. Judges
determine the punishment, or sentence, for a crime. After being
convicted, or found guilty, of a crime, no matter how the conviction
came about, the appropriate punishment is doled out by the judge.
– Monetary retribution in the form of fines or restitution.
– Incarceration in jail for up to one year.
– Incarceration in prison for over one year.
– Probation, which is in essence, a suspended sentence that may be
revoked if terms are violated.
– Community service.
– Work ethic camp.
– Drug and alcohol rehabilitation.
– Deferred Adjudication / Pretrial Diversion – these programs offer
defendants a chance to avoid a criminal record.
Unless there are extenuating circumstances, sentencing comes almost
immediately after a conviction when the infractions committed are
not “serious” crimes or when the defendant enters a guilty plea. In
criminal cases where the outcome weighs more heavily upon the
convicted person and his/her victims, outside opinions will be taken
into consideration before a sentence is handed down. The
prosecution, defense and probation department will all have their
say, and the probation department’s pre-sentence report is taken
into consideration. Normally, a judge will consider the following
– Criminal history or lack thereof.
– If the defendant was the perpetrator or an accessory.
– If the crime was committed under duress or extreme stress.
– Whether or not anyone was injured or put people at risk of being injured.
– Amount of cruelty, destruction, or vindictiveness the defendant
showed towards the victim.
– Remorse.
There are different types of sentences that can be handed down by
Concurrent sentences are ones that must be served simultaneously
with another sentence.
Consecutive sentences are ones where the defendant is convicted of
several counts of a crime and the punishment must be served one
sentence after another with no “breaks.”
Deferred sentences are sentences that must be served at a later time.
Determinate sentences are exact in their time frame and the entire
sentence must be completed before released from prison or jail.
Final sentencing concludes a criminal case, whereas interlocutory or
interim sentencing is not.
Indeterminate sentences are ones that end in the phrasing “not more
than” or “not less than” a specific amount of time.
Mandatory sentences are created by state law and give the judge no
options for leniency. Every day of a mandatory sentence must be served.
Maximum sentences are used in cases where cries were committed in
the extreme. The sentence is the limit of how long a person can be
held for a crime before the state is required to release that person.
Minimum sentences are used to set the minimum amount of time a
person must spend in prison before being released on parole.
Presumptive sentences are those which specify an average time frame
to be used as a basis for the amount of time one must spend behind bars.
Flat sentences are ones without a minimum or maximum specified time frame.
Suspended sentences are ones that are postponed after a conviction
or it may be one that postpones a sentence until it has been
pronounced.
Before a sentence is handed down, your defense attorney will have
the chance to speak on behalf of the defendant or you have the
opportunity to use your own voice. The prosecution also has the
chance to speak.
Post by Alan
...if they're not actually convicted until sentencing,
\\__YOU'RE STUCK IN A WHIRLPOOL OF YOUR OWN SEMANTIC NITWITTERY__//
Trump will not be formally sentenced until July 11th.
Period.
"SENTENCING occurs after conviction..."
It would be only slightly abnormal for it to occur before, much as
Judge Merchan and  Bragg would have preferred it to!
Yes... ...words have meanings.
When you finger them out, do poast again, creepy liarman.


But as badly as they queered their co-prosecution anything is up for
grabs now.

Learn what mistrial means.

You have permission to look that up yourself after you clap all the
erasers out, child.
Alan
2024-06-12 21:20:54 UTC
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When you finger them out, do poast again, creepy liarman.
But as badly as they queered their co-prosecution anything is up for
grabs now.
Learn what mistrial means.
You have permission to look that up yourself after you clap all the
erasers out, child.
Loser-2... ...dude.

YOU posted a link that literally contradicted what you claim.

That's on you.
Loran
2024-06-12 21:31:45 UTC
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Post by Loran
When you finger them out, do poast again, creepy liarman.
But as badly as they queered their co-prosecution anything is up for
grabs now.
Learn what mistrial means.
You have permission to look that up yourself after you clap all the
erasers out, child.
Loser-2... ...dude.
YOU posted a link that literally contradicted
No contradictions at all, he will not be sentenced until July 11th.
Post by Alan
That's on you.
Yes, I was the only one who brought that information forward here, you
lying succubus.
Alan
2024-06-12 21:34:22 UTC
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Post by Loran
When you finger them out, do poast again, creepy liarman.
But as badly as they queered their co-prosecution anything is up for
grabs now.
Learn what mistrial means.
You have permission to look that up yourself after you clap all the
erasers out, child.
Loser-2... ...dude.
YOU posted a link that literally contradicted
No contradictions at all, he will not be sentenced until July 11th.
Which your own source describes as "post-conviction"...


...meaning conviction comes BEFORE sentencing.
Loran
2024-06-12 21:39:20 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Loran
When you finger them out, do poast again, creepy liarman.
But as badly as they queered their co-prosecution anything is up for
grabs now.
Learn what mistrial means.
You have permission to look that up yourself after you clap all the
erasers out, child.
Loser-2... ...dude.
YOU posted a link that literally contradicted
No contradictions at all, he will not be sentenced until July 11th.
Which your own source
July 11th - per my sources, yes.
Alan
2024-06-12 21:43:45 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
When you finger them out, do poast again, creepy liarman.
But as badly as they queered their co-prosecution anything is up
for grabs now.
Learn what mistrial means.
You have permission to look that up yourself after you clap all the
erasers out, child.
Loser-2... ...dude.
YOU posted a link that literally contradicted
No contradictions at all, he will not be sentenced until July 11th.
Which your own source
July 11th - per my sources, yes.
For sentencing, yes.

Which takes place AFTER conviction, Loser-2:

'New York City Criminal Attorney Explains “Sentencing”

SENTENCING occurs post-conviction'
Loran
2024-06-12 22:25:07 UTC
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Post by Loran
When you finger them out, do poast again, creepy liarman.
But as badly as they queered their co-prosecution anything is up
for grabs now.
Learn what mistrial means.
You have permission to look that up yourself after you clap all
the erasers out, child.
Loser-2... ...dude.
YOU posted a link that literally contradicted
No contradictions at all, he will not be sentenced until July 11th.
Which your own source
July 11th - per my sources, yes.
For sentencing, yes.
Are you having some memory issues?
Post by Alan
Which takes place AFTER conviction,
Even though Merchan and Bragg rigged the show trial and mis-instructed
the jurors, yes.
Post by Alan
'New York City Criminal Attorney Explains “Sentencing”
SENTENCING occurs post-conviction'
Yes.

I have tried so very hard to educate you here.
Alan
2024-06-12 22:42:11 UTC
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Post by Loran
When you finger them out, do poast again, creepy liarman.
But as badly as they queered their co-prosecution anything is up
for grabs now.
Learn what mistrial means.
You have permission to look that up yourself after you clap all
the erasers out, child.
Loser-2... ...dude.
YOU posted a link that literally contradicted
No contradictions at all, he will not be sentenced until July 11th.
Which your own source
July 11th - per my sources, yes.
For sentencing, yes.
Are you having some memory issues?
Nope. Are you?
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Which takes place AFTER conviction,
Even though Merchan and Bragg rigged the show trial and mis-instructed
the jurors, yes.
Post by Alan
'New York City Criminal Attorney Explains “Sentencing”
SENTENCING occurs post-conviction'
Yes.
So you admit he's a convicted felon at this moment.

Good.
CaLaVeRa
2024-06-12 22:53:03 UTC
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he's a convicted felon at this moment
I think even the most dense here know that the show trial reached a
coached verdict.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crgg4kv0682o

"Can he vote?
It's likely that Trump will be able to vote this autumn.
Under Florida law - where Trump is a resident - a person with a felony
conviction from another state is ineligible to vote only "if the
conviction would make the person ineligible to vote in the state where
the person was convicted".
Trump was convicted in New York, where felons are allowed to vote as
long as they are not currently incarcerated.
This means that unless Trump is behind bars on 5 November, he should be
eligible to cast his ballot."

And:

"The defense is likely to argue that the charges themselves were legally
improper. Falsifying business records on its own is a misdemeanor in New
York, but is elevated to a felony when done to help commit or conceal
another crime. In this case, Bragg's office said that other crime was a
conspiracy to violate a state election law.
Trump's lawyers have argued that state law does not apply to federal
elections."


Because New York is not a "federal" entity, like say Washington DC.
Alan
2024-06-12 23:18:28 UTC
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Post by Alan
he's a convicted felon at this moment
I think even the most dense here know that the show trial reached a
coached verdict.
I think everyone here realizes you've now (desperately) tried to shift
the goalposts.
Zinger
2024-06-13 00:33:22 UTC
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Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by Alan
he's a convicted felon at this moment
I think even the most dense here know that the show trial reached a
coached verdict.
I think everyone here realizes you've now (desperately) tried to shift
the goalposts.
Actually, everyone here forgives you as obviously you are vastly
mentally handicapped. One of God' crippled Democrats. Makes one wonder
why there are so many of you? Was is drugs, funny water, What?
Alan
2024-06-13 00:38:15 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by Alan
he's a convicted felon at this moment
I think even the most dense here know that the show trial reached a
coached verdict.
I think everyone here realizes you've now (desperately) tried to shift
the goalposts.
Actually, everyone here forgives you as obviously you are vastly
mentally handicapped. One of God' crippled Democrats. Makes one wonder
why there are so many of you? Was is drugs, funny water, What?
Getting back on topic, do you agree that a person is convicted at the
time the jury's verdict is announced?
Loran
2024-06-13 15:30:25 UTC
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Post by Zinger
Post by Alan
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by Alan
he's a convicted felon at this moment
I think even the most dense here know that the show trial reached a
coached verdict.
I think everyone here realizes you've now (desperately) tried to
shift the goalposts.
Actually, everyone here forgives you as obviously you are vastly
mentally handicapped. One of God' crippled Democrats. Makes one wonder
why there are so many of you? Was is drugs, funny water, What?
Getting back on topic, do you agree that a person is convicted at the
time the jury's verdict is announced?
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Alan
2024-06-13 15:58:35 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Zinger
Post by Alan
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by Alan
he's a convicted felon at this moment
I think even the most dense here know that the show trial reached a
coached verdict.
I think everyone here realizes you've now (desperately) tried to
shift the goalposts.
Actually, everyone here forgives you as obviously you are vastly
mentally handicapped. One of God' crippled Democrats. Makes one
wonder why there are so many of you? Was is drugs, funny water, What?
Getting back on topic, do you agree that a person is convicted at the
time the jury's verdict is announced?
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
You have issues with reading for comprehension.
To be found guilty by a jury is to be convicted.

Period.

'convict

verb [with object] | kənˈvikt |

declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a
jury'

'conviction | kənˈvikSHən |

noun

1 a formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offense,
made by the verdict of a jury'
Loran
2024-06-13 15:30:11 UTC
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Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by Alan
he's a convicted felon at this moment
I think even the most dense here know that the show trial reached a
coached verdict.
I think everyone here realizes you've now (desperately) tried to shift
the goalposts.
Actually, everyone here forgives you as obviously you are vastly
mentally handicapped. One of God' crippled Democrats. Makes one wonder
why there are so many of you? Was is drugs, funny water, What?
They have historically been loose lugnuts, but to have devolved into
satanic pedophillic, mixed gender morons is a new low by any standard.

Evil has pervaded them to their rotten cores.
Loran
2024-06-13 15:27:32 UTC
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Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by Alan
he's a convicted felon at this moment
I think even the most dense here know that the show trial reached a
coached verdict.
I think everyone here realizes you've now (desperately) tried to shift
the goalposts.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Alan
2024-06-13 15:58:55 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by Alan
he's a convicted felon at this moment
I think even the most dense here know that the show trial reached a
coached verdict.
I think everyone here realizes you've now (desperately) tried to shift
the goalposts.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
You have issues with reading for comprehension.
To be found guilty by a jury is to be convicted.

Period.

'convict

verb [with object] | kənˈvikt |

declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a
jury'

'conviction | kənˈvikSHən |

noun

1 a formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offense,
made by the verdict of a jury'
Loran
2024-06-12 23:05:18 UTC
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When you finger them out, do poast again, creepy liarman.
But as badly as they queered their co-prosecution anything is up
for grabs now.
Learn what mistrial means.
You have permission to look that up yourself after you clap all
the erasers out, child.
Loser-2... ...dude.
YOU posted a link that literally contradicted
No contradictions at all, he will not be sentenced until July 11th.
Which your own source
July 11th - per my sources, yes.
For sentencing, yes.
Are you having some memory issues?
Nope. Are you?
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Which takes place AFTER conviction,
Even though Merchan and Bragg rigged the show trial and mis-instructed
the jurors, yes.
Post by Alan
'New York City Criminal Attorney Explains “Sentencing”
SENTENCING occurs post-conviction'
Yes.
So you admit he's a convicted felon at this moment.
Good.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Alan
2024-06-12 23:19:08 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
When you finger them out, do poast again, creepy liarman.
But as badly as they queered their co-prosecution anything is
up for grabs now.
Learn what mistrial means.
You have permission to look that up yourself after you clap all
the erasers out, child.
Loser-2... ...dude.
YOU posted a link that literally contradicted
No contradictions at all, he will not be sentenced until July 11th.
Which your own source
July 11th - per my sources, yes.
For sentencing, yes.
Are you having some memory issues?
Nope. Are you?
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Which takes place AFTER conviction,
Even though Merchan and Bragg rigged the show trial and
mis-instructed the jurors, yes.
Post by Alan
'New York City Criminal Attorney Explains “Sentencing”
SENTENCING occurs post-conviction'
Yes.
So you admit he's a convicted felon at this moment.
Good.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Nope.
Post by Loran
Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."
Sentencing takes place AFTER conviction, Loser-2.

Your own chose source said so.
Loran
2024-06-13 15:27:46 UTC
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"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Nope.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Alan
2024-06-13 15:59:09 UTC
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"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Nope.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
You have issues with reading for comprehension.
To be found guilty by a jury is to be convicted.

Period.

'convict

verb [with object] | kənˈvikt |

declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a
jury'

'conviction | kənˈvikSHən |

noun

1 a formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offense,
made by the verdict of a jury'
Loran
2024-06-12 23:06:24 UTC
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July 11th - per my sources, yes.
For sentencing, yes.
Which takes place AFTER conviction
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Loran
2024-06-12 23:06:39 UTC
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conviction comes BEFORE sentencing.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Loran
2024-06-12 23:06:53 UTC
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YOU posted a link that literally contradicted what you claim.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Loran
2024-06-12 23:07:10 UTC
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And sentencing coming AFTER conviction means
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Loran
2024-06-12 23:07:38 UTC
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"SENTENCING occurs after conviction..."
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Loran
2024-06-12 23:07:53 UTC
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Explain how someone can be sentenced after conviction...
...if they're not actually convicted until sentencing,
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Loran
2024-06-12 23:08:21 UTC
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'Sentence on date of conviction.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
AlleyCat
2024-06-12 22:26:37 UTC
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Don't bother replying to this, unless you reply to the topic (Trump being
called a "CONVICTED FELON"). I've done kicked your ass and I'm done with you.

Unlike you, I can "walk" away from you trolling contrarians. I don't have the
narcissism and low self-esteem issues you liberals have, so...

https://i.imgur.com/ic4MK99.mp4

You lost... suck it up, buttercup.

On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:23:13 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 20:27:33 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by Alan
'Conviction (by JURY and NOT judge)
Blah, blah, blah...
Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?
Isn't it interesting that you had to snip what I said?
Not at all... you went off-"SUB-THREAD" again, hence the snout-smack. I WILL
snip every time you try to change the gist of the conversation by harping on
the minutiae... in this case the word "conviction".
The words are "convicted felon", you pedantic pansy ass little child.
You're wrong anyway. The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so
no... NO CONVICTION, and CERTAINLY no "convicted felon".
See? The topic was spelled out for this liberal and he keeps arguing the wrong
thing, because he KNOWS he's wrong about "convicted felon" and thinks talking
about "conviction" gets him out of the shit house.

Nope... sorry, bunny... you lose.
Post by Alan
New York State law...
...(which I quoted and you snipped)...
...says differently.
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
NOT talking about conviction, Cuntnadian public school dropout.

I don't care what you discuss with others here, but *I'M* not talking about
"conviction".

"Convicted felon" is the topic.

Again, moron... Trump is not "CONVICTED" and therefore not a "FELON", until the
JUDGE enters the judgment of guilt, which he will or won't do BEFORE
sentencing, so your bullshit about "conviction" coming before sentencing, is
moot.

The JURY found Trump guilty... not "convicted".

The JUDGE handles that part.

You can argue with Loran/CaLaVeRa till your fingertips are blue about
"conviction" all you want, but I whooped your pussy ass about what *I* was
talking about: Rudy's comment on Trump being a CONVICTED FELON or not.

I know you narcissism won't let you off getting your ass kicked like I did...
that's why you have to pick out a word, like your butt-buddy Rudy does and
focus on THAT word only.

Sorry, go-kart lesson-giving pussy... *MY* contention was NOT whether there was
*A* conviction... it was whether Trump is or is not a "convicted felon", as of
now.

Again... don't bother replying to this unless you address the "convicted
felon" topic.

Knowing you and your narcissism and low-self-esteem, you'll whine about this
until the sentencing date (so, you may be right someday - LOL).

Like I said... argue all you want with someone else, you KNOW I kicked your Ski
Bunny butt, that's why you keep harping on something I'm not talking about, to
save yourself from driving your go-kart into the tires at full speed, ala Dale
Earnhardt. (RIP)

Alan "Kart-Boy" Baker realizing he lost to a big dumb American jock:

Loading Image...

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This was so nice... I'm posting it twice.
Post by Alan
Isn't it interesting that you had to snip what I said?
Not at all... you went off-"SUB-THREAD" again, hence the snout-smack. I WILL
snip every time you try to change the gist of the conversation by harping on
the minutiae... in this case the word "conviction".

The words are "convicted felon", you pedantic pansy ass little child.

You're wrong anyway. The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so
no... NO CONVICTION, and CERTAINLY no "convicted felon".

I do not CARE what the definition of conviction is and I spelled it out for you
anyways... the JUDGE hasn't entered a judgment of guilt?

Again, moron... Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon
because the judge has not entered a judgment of guilt.

See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.

My reply to Rudy had NOTHING to do with "conviction".

Rudy:
By the way, Trump is not yet a CONVICTED FELON. He doesn't become one until the
judge passes sentence. (and validates the jury's verdict)

AlleyCat:
Yup.

TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling Trump a
convicted felon.

I can't wait till he appeals and wins, making it so they can't do that any
more.

Will YOU cry too?

=====

Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT a convicted felon. Doesn't REALLY
matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE
HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN NEW YORK, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.
Alan
2024-06-12 22:49:08 UTC
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Don't bother replying to this, unless you reply to the topic (Trump being
called a "CONVICTED FELON"). I've done kicked your ass and I'm done with you.
You're running away...

...again.
Post by AlleyCat
Unlike you, I can "walk" away from you trolling contrarians. I don't have the
narcissism and low self-esteem issues you liberals have, so...
Which is why you posted paragraph after paragraph...

..repetitively.

:-)
Post by AlleyCat
https://i.imgur.com/ic4MK99.mp4
You lost... suck it up, buttercup.
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:23:13 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 20:27:33 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by Alan
'Conviction (by JURY and NOT judge)
Blah, blah, blah...
Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?
Isn't it interesting that you had to snip what I said?
Not at all... you went off-"SUB-THREAD" again, hence the snout-smack. I WILL
snip every time you try to change the gist of the conversation by harping on
the minutiae... in this case the word "conviction".
The words are "convicted felon", you pedantic pansy ass little child.
You're wrong anyway. The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so
no... NO CONVICTION, and CERTAINLY no "convicted felon".
See? The topic was spelled out for this liberal and he keeps arguing the wrong
thing, because he KNOWS he's wrong about "convicted felon" and thinks talking
about "conviction" gets him out of the shit house.
Nope... sorry, bunny... you lose.
Post by Alan
New York State law...
...(which I quoted and you snipped)...
...says differently.
Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
NOT talking about conviction, Cuntnadian public school dropout.
I don't care what you discuss with others here, but *I'M* not talking about
"conviction".
"Convicted felon" is the topic.
Again, moron... Trump is not "CONVICTED" and therefore not a "FELON", until the
JUDGE enters the judgment of guilt, which he will or won't do BEFORE
sentencing, so your bullshit about "conviction" coming before sentencing, is
moot.
The JURY found Trump guilty... not "convicted".
The JUDGE handles that part.
You can argue with Loran/CaLaVeRa till your fingertips are blue about
"conviction" all you want, but I whooped your pussy ass about what *I* was
talking about: Rudy's comment on Trump being a CONVICTED FELON or not.
I know you narcissism won't let you off getting your ass kicked like I did...
that's why you have to pick out a word, like your butt-buddy Rudy does and
focus on THAT word only.
Sorry, go-kart lesson-giving pussy... *MY* contention was NOT whether there was
*A* conviction... it was whether Trump is or is not a "convicted felon", as of
now.
Again... don't bother replying to this unless you address the "convicted
felon" topic.
Knowing you and your narcissism and low-self-esteem, you'll whine about this
until the sentencing date (so, you may be right someday - LOL).
Like I said... argue all you want with someone else, you KNOW I kicked your Ski
Bunny butt, that's why you keep harping on something I'm not talking about, to
save yourself from driving your go-kart into the tires at full speed, ala Dale
Earnhardt. (RIP)
https://c.tenor.com/p69OeEgwXF4AAAAM/kart-slide.gif
============================================================================
This was so nice... I'm posting it twice.
Post by Alan
Isn't it interesting that you had to snip what I said?
Not at all... you went off-"SUB-THREAD" again, hence the snout-smack. I WILL
snip every time you try to change the gist of the conversation by harping on
the minutiae... in this case the word "conviction".
The words are "convicted felon", you pedantic pansy ass little child.
You're wrong anyway. The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so
no... NO CONVICTION, and CERTAINLY no "convicted felon".
I do not CARE what the definition of conviction is and I spelled it out for you
anyways... the JUDGE hasn't entered a judgment of guilt?
Again, moron... Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon
because the judge has not entered a judgment of guilt.
See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.
My reply to Rudy had NOTHING to do with "conviction".
By the way, Trump is not yet a CONVICTED FELON. He doesn't become one until the
judge passes sentence. (and validates the jury's verdict)
Yup.
TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling Trump a
convicted felon.
I can't wait till he appeals and wins, making it so they can't do that any
more.
Will YOU cry too?
=====
Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?
Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT a convicted felon. Doesn't REALLY
matter though... does it? (see below)
Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE
HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN NEW YORK, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.
You lose again, loser.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.
=====
According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/
May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence
=====
Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.
=====
According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/
May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence
=====
Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.
Loran
2024-06-12 23:05:50 UTC
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Post by Alan
You're running away...
...again.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Alan
2024-06-12 23:19:46 UTC
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Post by Alan
You're running away...
...again.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Not according to YOUR OWN SOURCE, Loser-2!
Loran
2024-06-13 15:27:56 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Alan
You're running away...
...again.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Not according to YOUR OWN SOURCE, Loser-2!
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Alan
2024-06-13 15:59:23 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
You're running away...
...again.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Not according to YOUR OWN SOURCE, Loser-2!
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
You have issues with reading for comprehension.
To be found guilty by a jury is to be convicted.

Period.

'convict

verb [with object] | kənˈvikt |

declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a
jury'

'conviction | kənˈvikSHən |

noun

1 a formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offense,
made by the verdict of a jury'
AlleyCat
2024-06-13 03:44:37 UTC
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:23:13 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
You're wrong anyway. The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so
no... NO CONVICTION, and CERTAINLY no "convicted felon".
New York State law...
I must have deleted the post where you quoted the law... could you post it
again?

=====

Joe Biden: Criminal

Phone Calls: Testimony from witnesses who told lawmakers Biden joined on
"multiple phone calls and had multiple interactions, dinners" with his son's
business partners, which the speaker alleged led to millions of dollars in
payments and cars to Hunter Biden and his associates.

Hunter Biden's former business partner Devon Archer testified to the House
Oversight Committee in July that he witnessed then-Vice President Biden and his
son have multiple "casual conversations" in the presence of Hunter's business
partners, including on speakerphone, but Archer said they did not involve any
business discussions.

Payments to Family Members: Bank records show Hunter Biden and his business
partners received $20 million in payments from various foreign entities and
about $7 million went directly to Biden family members, according to a
Washington Post analysis.

Bank Records: Suspicious Activity Reports detail various foreign transactions
Hunter Biden and his business partners engaged in-banks are required to file
these reports on a routine basis with the federal government to flag potential
illegal activity.

Bribery: Bribery allegation brought by an FBI source that alleges the CEO of
Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company Hunter Biden sat on the board of, paid $10
million to members of the Biden family to help remove a Ukrainian corruption
prosecutor.

The Bidens and their associates have received over $20 million in payments from
foreign entities.

Romania: On September 28, 2015, Vice President Biden welcomed Romanian
President Klaus Iohannis to the White House. Within five weeks of this meeting,
a Romanian businessman involved with a high-profile corruption prosecution in
Romania, Gabriel Popoviciu, began depositing a Biden associate's bank account,
which ultimately made their way into Biden family accounts. Popoviciu made
sixteen of the seventeen payments, totaling over $3 million, to the Biden
associate account while Joe Biden was Vice President. Biden family accounts
ultimately received approximately $1.038 million. The total amount from Romania
to the Biden family and their associates is over $3 million.

China- CEFC: On March 1, 2017-less than two months after Vice President Joe
Biden left public office-State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3
million to a Biden associate's account. This is the same bank account used in
the above "Romania" section. After the Chinese company wired the Biden
associate account the $3 million, the Biden family received approximately
$1,065,692 over a three-month period in different bank accounts. Additionally,
the CEFC Chairman gives Hunter Biden a diamond worth $80,000. Lastly, CEFC
creates a joint venture with the Bidens in the summer of 2017. The timeline
lays out the "WhatsApp" messages and subsequent wires from the Chinese to the
Bidens of $100,000 and $5 million. The total amount from China, specifically
with CEFC and their related entities, to the Biden family and their associates
is over $8 million.

China- Bohai Harvest RST Equity Investment Fund Management Co., Ltd. (BHR):
More information will be provided in our upcoming Fourth Bank Memorandum.

Kazakhstan: On April 22, 2014, Kenes Rakishev, a Kazakhstani oligarch used his
Singaporean entity, Novatus Holdings, to wire one of Hunter Biden's Rosemont
Seneca entities $142,300. The very next day-April 23, 2014-the Rosemont Seneca
entity transferred the exact same amount of money to a car dealership for a car
for Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer would represent Burisma in
Kazakhstan in May/June of 2014 as the company attempted to broker a three-way
deal among Burisma, the Kazakhstan government, and a Chinese state-owned energy
company.

Ukraine: Devon Archer joined the Burisma board of directors in spring of 2014
and was joined by Hunter Biden shortly thereafter. Hunter Biden joined the
company as counsel, but after a meeting with Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky in
Lake Como, Italy, was elevated to the board of directors in the spring of 2014.
Both Biden and Archer were each paid $1 million per year for their positions on
the board of directors. In December 2015, after a Burisma board of directors
meeting, Zlochevsky and Hunter Biden "called D.C." in the wake of mounting
pressures the company was facing. Zlochevsky was later charged with bribing
Ukrainian officials with $6 million in an attempt to delay or drop the
investigation into his company. The total amount from Ukraine to the Biden
family and their associates is $6.5 million.

Russia: On February 14, 2014, a Russian oligarch and Russia's richest woman,
Yelena Baturina, wired a Rosemont Seneca entity $3.5 million. On March 11,
2014, the wire was split up: $750,000 was transferred to Devon Archer, and the
remainder was sent to Rosemont Seneca Bohai, a company Devon Archer and Hunter
Biden split equally. In spring of 2014, Yelena Baturina joined Hunter Biden and
Devon Archer to share a meal with then-Vice President Biden at a restaurant in
Washington, D.C. The total amount from Russia to the Biden family and their
associates is $3.5 million.
Alan
2024-06-13 03:52:40 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:23:13 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
You're wrong anyway. The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so
no... NO CONVICTION, and CERTAINLY no "convicted felon".
New York State law...
I must have deleted the post where you quoted the law... could you post it
again?
Well you're certainly incompetent enough for it:

"'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the defendant
at the time the conviction is entered if:'

<https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cpl/part-2/title-l/article-380/380-30/>

That language means beyond any doubt that sentencing is NOT when you are
convicted. "
AlleyCat
2024-06-13 04:12:00 UTC
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 20:52:40 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:23:13 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
You're wrong anyway. The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so
no... NO CONVICTION, and CERTAINLY no "convicted felon".
New York State law...
I must have deleted the post where you quoted the law... could you post it
again?
"'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the defendant
at the time the conviction is entered if:'
They didn't.
Post by Alan
<https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cpl/part-2/title-l/article-380/380-30/>
That language means beyond any doubt that sentencing is NOT when you are
convicted. "
I know.

I guess you never did post the law that says someone is designated a "convicted
felon" before sentencing.

My bad.

I'll ask the more competent.

Thanks for trying.

Narcissists operate in much the same way as an internet troll who corrects
grammar and spelling. They know you're making good points and everything you're
saying is true, so they've got nothing else to work with. So they pick on your
choice of words, it's juvenile and transparent.

=====

The Narcissistic Semantics-Driven Troll

A friend of mine was telling me recently how she'd been arguing with her
husband. This guy is an alcoholic, jobless, abusive narcissist and everyone
knows she'd be better off without him.

She told me that she found it pointless to tell him anything that was upsetting
her because they'd stray from the point and just end up talking about her using
"the wrong words."

"He always says use the right words... use the right words! So it's just not
worth it." It was worth it because he was being a dick, but I can see where
she's coming from.

An argument with a narcissist is always going to be long, exhausting, and
ultimately pointless. You're never going to get them to see your side of things
because half the time you stray so far from the point that you can't remember
what started the fight.

And it always seems to come down to semantics, what you said vs what you meant.
Semantics

You know what you meant, they know what you meant, and you know they know what
you meant. Yet here you are, arguing about what you meant. Maybe there's a more
appropriate word they could have used. Maybe they were exaggerating, something
everyone does, particularly during an argument.

Most people brush it off as what it was, a mistake or an exaggeration, but not
a narcissist. They've got to prove their vast linguistic knowledge by picking
on you on every little thing you said. It's their way of feeling smug and
superior whilst attempting to make you look silly. (never happens)

It's also a way of guiding the argument in a different direction, away from
their behavior, onto your choice of words. This helps them avoid responsibility
for what they did because they knew you'll eventually get tired of arguing
about nonsense and give up.

It's misdirection in one of its most sinister forms. They're drawing your
attention away from what they did and getting you to focus on something else.
Alan
2024-06-13 04:28:51 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 20:52:40 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:23:13 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
You're wrong anyway. The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so
no... NO CONVICTION, and CERTAINLY no "convicted felon".
New York State law...
I must have deleted the post where you quoted the law... could you post it
again?
"'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the defendant
at the time the conviction is entered if:'
They didn't.
You missed the point.

"At the time of conviction" is clearly separate from sentencing.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
<https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cpl/part-2/title-l/article-380/380-30/>
That language means beyond any doubt that sentencing is NOT when you are
convicted. "
I know.
I guess you never did post the law that says someone is designated a "convicted
felon" before sentencing.
I have.

Multiple times.
Post by AlleyCat
My bad.
I'll ask the more competent.
Thanks for trying.
Are you going to even try to post anything that supports your claim that
there is a separate "judgment of guilt" that must happen?
AlleyCat
2024-06-13 05:45:39 UTC
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 21:28:51 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
"'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the defendant
at the time the conviction is entered if:'
They didn't.
You missed the point.
"At the time of conviction" is clearly separate from sentencing.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
<https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cpl/part-2/title-l/article-380/380-30/>
That language means beyond any doubt that sentencing is NOT when you are
convicted. "
I know.
I guess you never did post the law that says someone is designated a "convicted
felon" before sentencing.
I have.
Multiple times.
I never saw it. I told you... I probably deleted "it", because you posted it
when you were talking to Loran and not me. I don't read yours and his shit,
because I know it's going to be nothing but nuh huhs and nuh uhs.

If I missed you posting the law, just cite it... take you 2 seconds. If you can
give me a few words from that post, I CAN look it up in my archives, but I have
a feeling there's no LAW that addresses whether someone is designated a
"convicted felon" or not, so whatever "law" you posted, probably has NOTHING to
do with the point I've been trying to drill into your vacuous head.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
My bad.
I'll ask the more competent.
Thanks for trying.
Are you going to even try to post anything that supports your claim that
there is a separate "judgment of guilt" that must happen?
I did.

Multiple times.

This I know... you saw and read them, because you commented on them, so don't
EVEN go where I know you want to.

I did add a little bonus video from a professor of law in another reply, so...

=====

Joe Biden: Criminal

Phone Calls: Testimony from witnesses who told lawmakers Biden joined on
"multiple phone calls and had multiple interactions, dinners" with his son's
business partners, which the speaker alleged led to millions of dollars in
payments and cars to Hunter Biden and his associates.

Hunter Biden's former business partner Devon Archer testified to the House
Oversight Committee in July that he witnessed then-Vice President Biden and his
son have multiple "casual conversations" in the presence of Hunter's business
partners, including on speakerphone, but Archer said they did not involve any
business discussions.

Payments to Family Members: Bank records show Hunter Biden and his business
partners received $20 million in payments from various foreign entities and
about $7 million went directly to Biden family members, according to a
Washington Post analysis.

Bank Records: Suspicious Activity Reports detail various foreign transactions
Hunter Biden and his business partners engaged in-banks are required to file
these reports on a routine basis with the federal government to flag potential
illegal activity.

Bribery: Bribery allegation brought by an FBI source that alleges the CEO of
Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company Hunter Biden sat on the board of, paid $10
million to members of the Biden family to help remove a Ukrainian corruption
prosecutor.

The Bidens and their associates have received over $20 million in payments from
foreign entities.

Romania: On September 28, 2015, Vice President Biden welcomed Romanian
President Klaus Iohannis to the White House. Within five weeks of this meeting,
a Romanian businessman involved with a high-profile corruption prosecution in
Romania, Gabriel Popoviciu, began depositing a Biden associate's bank account,
which ultimately made their way into Biden family accounts. Popoviciu made
sixteen of the seventeen payments, totaling over $3 million, to the Biden
associate account while Joe Biden was Vice President. Biden family accounts
ultimately received approximately $1.038 million. The total amount from Romania
to the Biden family and their associates is over $3 million.

China- CEFC: On March 1, 2017-less than two months after Vice President Joe
Biden left public office-State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3
million to a Biden associate's account. This is the same bank account used in
the above "Romania" section. After the Chinese company wired the Biden
associate account the $3 million, the Biden family received approximately
$1,065,692 over a three-month period in different bank accounts. Additionally,
the CEFC Chairman gives Hunter Biden a diamond worth $80,000. Lastly, CEFC
creates a joint venture with the Bidens in the summer of 2017. The timeline
lays out the "WhatsApp" messages and subsequent wires from the Chinese to the
Bidens of $100,000 and $5 million. The total amount from China, specifically
with CEFC and their related entities, to the Biden family and their associates
is over $8 million.

China- Bohai Harvest RST Equity Investment Fund Management Co., Ltd. (BHR):
More information will be provided in our upcoming Fourth Bank Memorandum.

Kazakhstan: On April 22, 2014, Kenes Rakishev, a Kazakhstani oligarch used his
Singaporean entity, Novatus Holdings, to wire one of Hunter Biden's Rosemont
Seneca entities $142,300. The very next day-April 23, 2014-the Rosemont Seneca
entity transferred the exact same amount of money to a car dealership for a car
for Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer would represent Burisma in
Kazakhstan in May/June of 2014 as the company attempted to broker a three-way
deal among Burisma, the Kazakhstan government, and a Chinese state-owned energy
company.

Ukraine: Devon Archer joined the Burisma board of directors in spring of 2014
and was joined by Hunter Biden shortly thereafter. Hunter Biden joined the
company as counsel, but after a meeting with Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky in
Lake Como, Italy, was elevated to the board of directors in the spring of 2014.
Both Biden and Archer were each paid $1 million per year for their positions on
the board of directors. In December 2015, after a Burisma board of directors
meeting, Zlochevsky and Hunter Biden "called D.C." in the wake of mounting
pressures the company was facing. Zlochevsky was later charged with bribing
Ukrainian officials with $6 million in an attempt to delay or drop the
investigation into his company. The total amount from Ukraine to the Biden
family and their associates is $6.5 million.

Russia: On February 14, 2014, a Russian oligarch and Russia's richest woman,
Yelena Baturina, wired a Rosemont Seneca entity $3.5 million. On March 11,
2014, the wire was split up: $750,000 was transferred to Devon Archer, and the
remainder was sent to Rosemont Seneca Bohai, a company Devon Archer and Hunter
Biden split equally. In spring of 2014, Yelena Baturina joined Hunter Biden and
Devon Archer to share a meal with then-Vice President Biden at a restaurant in
Washington, D.C. The total amount from Russia to the Biden family and their
associates is $3.5 million.
Alan
2024-06-13 05:47:53 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 21:28:51 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
"'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the defendant
at the time the conviction is entered if:'
They didn't.
You missed the point.
"At the time of conviction" is clearly separate from sentencing.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
<https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cpl/part-2/title-l/article-380/380-30/>
That language means beyond any doubt that sentencing is NOT when you are
convicted. "
I know.
I guess you never did post the law that says someone is designated a "convicted
felon" before sentencing.
I have.
Multiple times.
I never saw it. I told you... I probably deleted "it", because you posted it
when you were talking to Loran and not me. I don't read yours and his shit,
because I know it's going to be nothing but nuh huhs and nuh uhs.
If I missed you posting the law, just cite it... take you 2 seconds. If you can
give me a few words from that post, I CAN look it up in my archives, but I have
a feeling there's no LAW that addresses whether someone is designated a
"convicted felon" or not, so whatever "law" you posted, probably has NOTHING to
do with the point I've been trying to drill into your vacuous head.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
My bad.
I'll ask the more competent.
Thanks for trying.
Are you going to even try to post anything that supports your claim that
there is a separate "judgment of guilt" that must happen?
I did.
Multiple times.
This I know... you saw and read them, because you commented on them, so don't
EVEN go where I know you want to.
I did add a little bonus video from a professor of law in another reply, so...
Nope. You posted an article by someone you claim is an expert that cited
no source.
Loran
2024-06-13 15:33:30 UTC
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Post by Alan
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 21:28:51 -0700,  Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
"'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the defendant
at the time the conviction is entered if:'
They didn't.
You missed the point.
"At the time of conviction" is clearly separate from sentencing.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
<https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cpl/part-2/title-l/article-380/380-30/>
That language means beyond any doubt that sentencing is NOT when you are
convicted. "
I know.
I guess you never did post the law that says someone is designated a "convicted
felon" before sentencing.
I have.
Multiple times.
I never saw it. I told you... I probably deleted "it", because you posted it
when you were talking to Loran and not me. I don't read yours and his shit,
because I know it's going to be nothing but nuh huhs and nuh uhs.
If I missed you posting the law, just cite it... take you 2 seconds. If you can
give me a few words from that post, I CAN look it up in my archives, but I have
a feeling there's no LAW that addresses whether someone is designated a
"convicted felon" or not, so whatever "law" you posted, probably has NOTHING to
do with the point I've been trying to drill into your vacuous head.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
My bad.
I'll ask the more competent.
Thanks for trying.
Are you going to even try to post anything that supports your claim that
there is a separate "judgment of guilt" that must happen?
I did.
Multiple times.
This I know... you saw and read them, because you commented on them, so don't
EVEN go where I know you want to.
I did add a little bonus video from a professor of law in another reply, so...
Nope. You posted an article by someone you claim is an expert that cited
no source.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Alan
2024-06-13 15:59:33 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Alan
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 21:28:51 -0700,  Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
"'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the defendant
at the time the conviction is entered if:'
They didn't.
You missed the point.
"At the time of conviction" is clearly separate from sentencing.
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
<https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cpl/part-2/title-l/article-380/380-30/>
That language means beyond any doubt that sentencing is NOT when you are
convicted. "
I know.
I guess you never did post the law that says someone is designated a "convicted
felon" before sentencing.
I have.
Multiple times.
I never saw it. I told you... I probably deleted "it", because you posted it
when you were talking to Loran and not me. I don't read yours and his shit,
because I know it's going to be nothing but nuh huhs and nuh uhs.
If I missed you posting the law, just cite it... take you 2 seconds. If you can
give me a few words from that post, I CAN look it up in my archives, but I have
a feeling there's no LAW that addresses whether someone is designated a
"convicted felon" or not, so whatever "law" you posted, probably has NOTHING to
do with the point I've been trying to drill into your vacuous head.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
My bad.
I'll ask the more competent.
Thanks for trying.
Are you going to even try to post anything that supports your claim that
there is a separate "judgment of guilt" that must happen?
I did.
Multiple times.
This I know... you saw and read them, because you commented on them, so don't
EVEN go where I know you want to.
I did add a little bonus video from a professor of law in another reply, so...
Nope. You posted an article by someone you claim is an expert that
cited no source.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
You have issues with reading for comprehension.
To be found guilty by a jury is to be convicted.

Period.

'convict

verb [with object] | kənˈvikt |

declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a
jury'

'conviction | kənˈvikSHən |

noun

1 a formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offense,
made by the verdict of a jury'
Loran
2024-06-13 15:33:08 UTC
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Post by Alan
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 20:52:40 -0700,  Alan says...
Post by Alan
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:23:13 -0700,  Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
You're wrong anyway. The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so
no... NO CONVICTION, and CERTAINLY no "convicted felon".
New York State law...
I must have deleted the post where you quoted the law... could you post it
again?
"'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the defendant
at the time the conviction is entered if:'
They didn't.
You missed the point.
"At the time of conviction" is clearly separate from sentencing.
Post by Alan
<https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cpl/part-2/title-l/article-380/380-30/>
That language means beyond any doubt that sentencing is NOT when you are
convicted. "
I know.
I guess you never did post the law that says someone is designated a "convicted
felon" before sentencing.
I have.
Multiple times.
My bad.
I'll ask the more competent.
Thanks for trying.
Are you going to even try to post anything that supports your claim that
there is a separate "judgment of guilt" that must happen?
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Alan
2024-06-13 15:59:41 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Alan
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 20:52:40 -0700,  Alan says...
Post by Alan
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:23:13 -0700,  Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
You're wrong anyway. The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so
no... NO CONVICTION, and CERTAINLY no "convicted felon".
New York State law...
I must have deleted the post where you quoted the law... could you post it
again?
"'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the defendant
at the time the conviction is entered if:'
They didn't.
You missed the point.
"At the time of conviction" is clearly separate from sentencing.
Post by Alan
<https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cpl/part-2/title-l/article-380/380-30/>
That language means beyond any doubt that sentencing is NOT when you are
convicted. "
I know.
I guess you never did post the law that says someone is designated a "convicted
felon" before sentencing.
I have.
Multiple times.
My bad.
I'll ask the more competent.
Thanks for trying.
Are you going to even try to post anything that supports your claim
that there is a separate "judgment of guilt" that must happen?
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
You have issues with reading for comprehension.
To be found guilty by a jury is to be convicted.

Period.

'convict

verb [with object] | kənˈvikt |

declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a
jury'

'conviction | kənˈvikSHən |

noun

1 a formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offense,
made by the verdict of a jury'
Loran
2024-06-13 15:32:35 UTC
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Post by Alan
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:23:13 -0700,  Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
You're wrong anyway. The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so
no... NO CONVICTION, and CERTAINLY no "convicted felon".
New York State law...
I must have deleted the post where you quoted the law... could you post it
again?
"'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the defendant
at the time the conviction is entered if:'
<https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cpl/part-2/title-l/article-380/380-30/>
That language means beyond any doubt that sentencing is NOT when you are
convicted. "
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Alan
2024-06-13 15:59:48 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Alan
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:23:13 -0700,  Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
You're wrong anyway. The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so
no... NO CONVICTION, and CERTAINLY no "convicted felon".
New York State law...
I must have deleted the post where you quoted the law... could you post it
again?
"'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the defendant
at the time the conviction is entered if:'
<https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cpl/part-2/title-l/article-380/380-30/>
That language means beyond any doubt that sentencing is NOT when you
are convicted. "
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
You have issues with reading for comprehension.
To be found guilty by a jury is to be convicted.

Period.

'convict

verb [with object] | kənˈvikt |

declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a
jury'

'conviction | kənˈvikSHən |

noun

1 a formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offense,
made by the verdict of a jury'
AlleyCat
2024-06-13 00:34:52 UTC
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:29:38 -0700, Chris Mueller says...
Post by AlleyCat
... Donald Trump is STILL not a convicted felon.
He *will be* on July 11
So?

And?

=====

Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-
verdict-conviction-rcna154801

May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money
conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.

=====

Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-
matters/index.html

May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald
Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business records, the next obvious
question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?

The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential
candidates. They must:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

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Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY -

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/donald-
trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/

May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president convicted of a
crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN.
His conviction on Thursday does not bar him from ...

=====

Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-
happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-cohen-
daniels/73920427007/

May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S.
Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after they become a
felon. The only qualifications are the following:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-
charges-voters-indictment

Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's
nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with criminal records from
holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...

=====

What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME

https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/

May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will
not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential campaign, even if he were
jailed.

=====

Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-
constitution-conviction

Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT.
WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be convicted of
felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...

COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?

YES.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM
HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.

=====

How Narcissists React When Things Don't Go Their Way

THE BASICS

What Is Narcissism?
Find a therapist who understands narcissism.

Key points

A study found that the higher people scored on measures of grandiose
narcissism, the greater their coping flexibility.
This study fits into the pattern of other investigations showing the high
ability of grandiose narcissists to manage life's problems.
Bolstering one's own confidence in being able to overcome stress can help even
non-narcissists cope.

It's all too familiar: You made careful plans to attend a family event or a
friend's milestone birthday, or to take a business trip. But then the hours of
planning and preparing that went into minimizing mishaps all seem wasted, as
everything that could go wrong does.

Part of dealing with disappointment and frustration involves getting over that
sickening feeling in the pit of your stomach that there's no way out. Consider
the case of traveling to a friend's milestone birthday celebration. When you
made your original arrangements, you allotted yourself plenty of time to get
there, booking the least expensive flight you could find that would still give
you a 3-hour cushion to arrive at the party. Sure, there were other options
available, but they were just outside your budget.

Much to your dismay, with no reason for a travel snafu, your flight gets
cancelled and you're stuck in an airport lounge. There are no available seats
on any other flight, and it looks like the celebration will go on without you.

One way to respond to broken plans is to rail against the forces of fate that
gave you this very bad deal. And yet you can yell all you want at the ticket
agents but it will not fix your problem. In fact, they're only going to get
aggravated at you, making it less likely that any of them will go out of their
way to assist. On the other hand, if you retreat to the nearest bar to lick
your wounds, your problem will go ignored by anyone who could have helped.

Somewhere in between aggressively attacking and retreating behind a wall of
inaction is the right approach to handling frustration and disappointment over
circumstances beyond your control. Psychologists talk about two coping methods,
neither of which is necessarily "better," but each of which has advantages:

In problem-focused coping, you try to change the situation; in emotion-focused
coping, you don't try to change anything but instead try to make yourself feel
better. In this case, after calming yourself down (emotion-focused), you can go
online or call the airline to try for a standby seat on the next flight out.

Flexible adaptation to frustration is part of a larger picture of adjusting to
life changes in general. In a review of the studies on coping flexibility and
adjustment to life changes, University of Hong Kong psychologist Cecelia Cheng
and colleagues (2015) note:

"Some people are sensitive to and ready for such changes, and actively try
various coping strategies to deal with the changing environment, whereas others
feel surprised and uncomfortable when changes occur and resist formulating new
strategies to cope with the altered environment." (p. 1582)

There are ways to measure your ability to adapt to stress using the criteria
that Cheng and her colleagues developed from their review of the literature.
Each involves combining problem-focused and emotion-focused coping rather than
using one to the exclusion of the other. Adapting to stress means that you can
choose from a variety of coping methods depending on the situation so you're
ultimately able to match your stress-reducing strategy to the nature of the
situation.

How Narcissists Deal

We might expect that the reaction narcissists choose when things go wrong is
full of vitriol, rather than a conscious and deliberate consideration of
alternatives. Part and parcel of narcissism, after all, is the sense that
you're entitled to get your way. When the fates don't cooperate, you're enraged
and you lash out at anyone and everyone, but especially those you identify as
thwarting your goals.

Getting infuriated when your wishes are blocked falls in the category of
emotion-focused coping: It doesn't accomplish anything other than perhaps
annoying the people who could help you (and maybe making you feel-temporarily-
better). If you're a narcissist, such an explosive reaction actually puts you
in a negative light, which is the last way you want to appear to the outside
world.

As it turns out, though, there are two types of narcissists, with different
levels of psychological well-being:

Grandiose narcissists are the ones with an inflated sense of their own
importance; their self-esteem tends to be high.
Vulnerable narcissists are at the opposite end of the pole; their self-esteem
is low and so are their levels of overall adaptation. Their weak sense of self
leads them to overcompensate-their narcissism is really just a superficial
cover-up for feelings of inferiority.

A research team headed by the University of Hong Kong's Henry K.S. Ng (2014)
examined how the two types of narcissists handle stress and, in turn, how their
coping approaches related to their psychological well-being. They knew in
advance that vulnerable narcissists would have lower levels of both self-esteem
and well-being than grandiose narcissists. The question was whether the two
types of narcissists would differ in the flexibility of their coping methods.

[Before jumping into the findings and their implications, it's important to
note that the term "narcissism" is being used somewhat loosely in that these
are not clinical populations. Instead, research on narcissism in non-clinical
samples uses a questionnaire measure that ranks people along a continuum from
low to high in what we might consider the everyday form of self-aggrandizement,
entitlement, and inability to have empathy with others.]

Ng and his collaborators administered questionnaires to assess narcissism,
self-esteem, degree of stress, and preferred coping methods to reduce stress.
They did not actually expose participants to stress or follow them over time.
Of course, all measures were self-reported, and those qualifications must be
kept in mind.

Using the basic model in which narcissism scores became predictors of life
satisfaction and perceived stress via the role of coping flexibility, Ng and
his team found that the higher people scored on measures of grandiose
narcissism, the greater their coping flexibility-and the higher their self-
esteem. Both coping flexibility and high self-esteem, in turn, were related to
higher life satisfaction and lower perceived stress levels. The opposite
pattern emerged for vulnerable narcissism: These individuals tended to cope
less flexibly, have lower self-esteem, and be lower in life satisfaction and
higher in perceived stress.

This study fits into the pattern of other investigations showing the
surprisingly high ability of people high in the personality trait of narcissism
(the grandiose type) to manage life's problems. Again, this is not true of
pathological narcissists who meet the criteria of the psychological disorder.
However, it does suggest that the next time you're feeling overwhelmed you can
take a few pages from the healthy narcissist's playbook:

Bolster your own sense of self-esteem, especially your confidence in being able
to overcome stress.
Remind yourself of the times that you've managed to get through a problem by
keeping your wits about you.
Rather than feel that the world is out to get you, take a more positive view of
your situation.
Run through all the coping strategies available to you, especially those you
hadn't initially considered.

Rolling with the punches is not only the method that healthy narcissists use
but one that can actually help you resolve the stresses that face you on a
daily basis.
Alan
2024-06-13 00:41:37 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:29:38 -0700, Chris Mueller says...
Post by AlleyCat
... Donald Trump is STILL not a convicted felon.
He *will be* on July 11
So?
And?
He's a convicted felon right now, Loser-1.

Try to learn to deal with reality.
AlleyCat
2024-06-13 00:49:45 UTC
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The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".

Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt.

See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.

Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the
verdict and enter a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT a convicted felon. Doesn't REALLY
matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE
HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN NEW YORK, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage.
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

=====

According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's
sentencing.

=============================================================================

Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-
verdict-conviction-rcna154801

May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money
conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.

=====

Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-
matters/index.html

May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald
Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business records, the next obvious
question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?

The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential
candidates. They must:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY -

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/donald-
trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/

May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president convicted of a
crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN.
His conviction on Thursday does not bar him from ...

=====

Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-
happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-cohen-
daniels/73920427007/

May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S.
Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after they become a
felon. The only qualifications are the following:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

=====

YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-
charges-voters-indictment

Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's
nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with criminal records from
holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...

=====

What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME

https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/

May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will
not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential campaign, even if he were
jailed.

=====

Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-
constitution-conviction

Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT.
WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be convicted of
felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...

COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?

YES.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM
HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.
Alan
2024-06-13 00:52:41 UTC
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The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".
There is no such requirement in New York State law.
AlleyCat
2024-06-13 03:44:27 UTC
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 17:52:41 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".
There is no such requirement in New York State law.
When did "requirement" become law. What LAW covers this "requirement" and
covers the designation "convicted felon"?

I recall seeing something but I must have deleted it already.

Please repost it.

=====

Joe Biden: Criminal

Phone Calls: Testimony from witnesses who told lawmakers Biden joined on
"multiple phone calls and had multiple interactions, dinners" with his son's
business partners, which the speaker alleged led to millions of dollars in
payments and cars to Hunter Biden and his associates.

Hunter Biden's former business partner Devon Archer testified to the House
Oversight Committee in July that he witnessed then-Vice President Biden and his
son have multiple "casual conversations" in the presence of Hunter's business
partners, including on speakerphone, but Archer said they did not involve any
business discussions.

Payments to Family Members: Bank records show Hunter Biden and his business
partners received $20 million in payments from various foreign entities and
about $7 million went directly to Biden family members, according to a
Washington Post analysis.

Bank Records: Suspicious Activity Reports detail various foreign transactions
Hunter Biden and his business partners engaged in-banks are required to file
these reports on a routine basis with the federal government to flag potential
illegal activity.

Bribery: Bribery allegation brought by an FBI source that alleges the CEO of
Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company Hunter Biden sat on the board of, paid $10
million to members of the Biden family to help remove a Ukrainian corruption
prosecutor.

The Bidens and their associates have received over $20 million in payments from
foreign entities.

Romania: On September 28, 2015, Vice President Biden welcomed Romanian
President Klaus Iohannis to the White House. Within five weeks of this meeting,
a Romanian businessman involved with a high-profile corruption prosecution in
Romania, Gabriel Popoviciu, began depositing a Biden associate's bank account,
which ultimately made their way into Biden family accounts. Popoviciu made
sixteen of the seventeen payments, totaling over $3 million, to the Biden
associate account while Joe Biden was Vice President. Biden family accounts
ultimately received approximately $1.038 million. The total amount from Romania
to the Biden family and their associates is over $3 million.

China- CEFC: On March 1, 2017-less than two months after Vice President Joe
Biden left public office-State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3
million to a Biden associate's account. This is the same bank account used in
the above "Romania" section. After the Chinese company wired the Biden
associate account the $3 million, the Biden family received approximately
$1,065,692 over a three-month period in different bank accounts. Additionally,
the CEFC Chairman gives Hunter Biden a diamond worth $80,000. Lastly, CEFC
creates a joint venture with the Bidens in the summer of 2017. The timeline
lays out the "WhatsApp" messages and subsequent wires from the Chinese to the
Bidens of $100,000 and $5 million. The total amount from China, specifically
with CEFC and their related entities, to the Biden family and their associates
is over $8 million.

China- Bohai Harvest RST Equity Investment Fund Management Co., Ltd. (BHR):
More information will be provided in our upcoming Fourth Bank Memorandum.

Kazakhstan: On April 22, 2014, Kenes Rakishev, a Kazakhstani oligarch used his
Singaporean entity, Novatus Holdings, to wire one of Hunter Biden's Rosemont
Seneca entities $142,300. The very next day-April 23, 2014-the Rosemont Seneca
entity transferred the exact same amount of money to a car dealership for a car
for Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer would represent Burisma in
Kazakhstan in May/June of 2014 as the company attempted to broker a three-way
deal among Burisma, the Kazakhstan government, and a Chinese state-owned energy
company.

Ukraine: Devon Archer joined the Burisma board of directors in spring of 2014
and was joined by Hunter Biden shortly thereafter. Hunter Biden joined the
company as counsel, but after a meeting with Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky in
Lake Como, Italy, was elevated to the board of directors in the spring of 2014.
Both Biden and Archer were each paid $1 million per year for their positions on
the board of directors. In December 2015, after a Burisma board of directors
meeting, Zlochevsky and Hunter Biden "called D.C." in the wake of mounting
pressures the company was facing. Zlochevsky was later charged with bribing
Ukrainian officials with $6 million in an attempt to delay or drop the
investigation into his company. The total amount from Ukraine to the Biden
family and their associates is $6.5 million.

Russia: On February 14, 2014, a Russian oligarch and Russia's richest woman,
Yelena Baturina, wired a Rosemont Seneca entity $3.5 million. On March 11,
2014, the wire was split up: $750,000 was transferred to Devon Archer, and the
remainder was sent to Rosemont Seneca Bohai, a company Devon Archer and Hunter
Biden split equally. In spring of 2014, Yelena Baturina joined Hunter Biden and
Devon Archer to share a meal with then-Vice President Biden at a restaurant in
Washington, D.C. The total amount from Russia to the Biden family and their
associates is $3.5 million.
Alan
2024-06-13 04:15:38 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 17:52:41 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".
There is no such requirement in New York State law.
When did "requirement" become law. What LAW covers this "requirement" and
covers the designation "convicted felon"?
You're the one claiming that something called a "judgement of guilt"
exists, Loser-1.

I haven't seen you post it.
AlleyCat
2024-06-13 05:22:17 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
When did "requirement" become law. What LAW covers this "requirement" and
covers the designation "convicted felon"?
So... no law.

Gotcha.
Post by Alan
You're the one claiming that something called a "judgement of guilt"
exists, Loser-1.
LOL... just HAD to move the goalposts again, huh? Of COURSE you did, because
you can't FIND the LAW that says Trump is a "convicted felon" after the jury's
verdict. Just a New York DESIGNATION.

Anyways... Did I say it was a law?

Nope.

It's procedure, stupid... BUT! (see below)
Post by Alan
I haven't seen you post it.
Uh, yes, you did. Remember... *I* never said it was a law.

https://i.imgur.com/zudNp5Q.mp4

Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge
has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT.

He explained THAT IN NEW YORK, this JUDGMENT is expected to be entered on July
11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.

On May 30, 2024, Donald Trump pulled off a historic first: he became the first
former president of the United States to be found guilty of felony crimes.
However, it's inaccurate to say that he's a convicted felon at this time
because, well, THAT'S JUST NOT HOW THE LAW WAS DESIGNED. While he's guilty in
his infamous hush money trial, the "convicted felon" title is still pending.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

=====

Joe Biden: Criminal

Phone Calls: Testimony from witnesses who told lawmakers Biden joined on
"multiple phone calls and had multiple interactions, dinners" with his son's
business partners, which the speaker alleged led to millions of dollars in
payments and cars to Hunter Biden and his associates.

Hunter Biden's former business partner Devon Archer testified to the House
Oversight Committee in July that he witnessed then-Vice President Biden and his
son have multiple "casual conversations" in the presence of Hunter's business
partners, including on speakerphone, but Archer said they did not involve any
business discussions.

Payments to Family Members: Bank records show Hunter Biden and his business
partners received $20 million in payments from various foreign entities and
about $7 million went directly to Biden family members, according to a
Washington Post analysis.

Bank Records: Suspicious Activity Reports detail various foreign transactions
Hunter Biden and his business partners engaged in-banks are required to file
these reports on a routine basis with the federal government to flag potential
illegal activity.

Bribery: Bribery allegation brought by an FBI source that alleges the CEO of
Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company Hunter Biden sat on the board of, paid $10
million to members of the Biden family to help remove a Ukrainian corruption
prosecutor.

The Bidens and their associates have received over $20 million in payments from
foreign entities.

Romania: On September 28, 2015, Vice President Biden welcomed Romanian
President Klaus Iohannis to the White House. Within five weeks of this meeting,
a Romanian businessman involved with a high-profile corruption prosecution in
Romania, Gabriel Popoviciu, began depositing a Biden associate's bank account,
which ultimately made their way into Biden family accounts. Popoviciu made
sixteen of the seventeen payments, totaling over $3 million, to the Biden
associate account while Joe Biden was Vice President. Biden family accounts
ultimately received approximately $1.038 million. The total amount from Romania
to the Biden family and their associates is over $3 million.

China- CEFC: On March 1, 2017-less than two months after Vice President Joe
Biden left public office-State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3
million to a Biden associate's account. This is the same bank account used in
the above "Romania" section. After the Chinese company wired the Biden
associate account the $3 million, the Biden family received approximately
$1,065,692 over a three-month period in different bank accounts. Additionally,
the CEFC Chairman gives Hunter Biden a diamond worth $80,000. Lastly, CEFC
creates a joint venture with the Bidens in the summer of 2017. The timeline
lays out the "WhatsApp" messages and subsequent wires from the Chinese to the
Bidens of $100,000 and $5 million. The total amount from China, specifically
with CEFC and their related entities, to the Biden family and their associates
is over $8 million.

China- Bohai Harvest RST Equity Investment Fund Management Co., Ltd. (BHR):
More information will be provided in our upcoming Fourth Bank Memorandum.

Kazakhstan: On April 22, 2014, Kenes Rakishev, a Kazakhstani oligarch used his
Singaporean entity, Novatus Holdings, to wire one of Hunter Biden's Rosemont
Seneca entities $142,300. The very next day-April 23, 2014-the Rosemont Seneca
entity transferred the exact same amount of money to a car dealership for a car
for Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer would represent Burisma in
Kazakhstan in May/June of 2014 as the company attempted to broker a three-way
deal among Burisma, the Kazakhstan government, and a Chinese state-owned energy
company.

Ukraine: Devon Archer joined the Burisma board of directors in spring of 2014
and was joined by Hunter Biden shortly thereafter. Hunter Biden joined the
company as counsel, but after a meeting with Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky in
Lake Como, Italy, was elevated to the board of directors in the spring of 2014.
Both Biden and Archer were each paid $1 million per year for their positions on
the board of directors. In December 2015, after a Burisma board of directors
meeting, Zlochevsky and Hunter Biden "called D.C." in the wake of mounting
pressures the company was facing. Zlochevsky was later charged with bribing
Ukrainian officials with $6 million in an attempt to delay or drop the
investigation into his company. The total amount from Ukraine to the Biden
family and their associates is $6.5 million.

Russia: On February 14, 2014, a Russian oligarch and Russia's richest woman,
Yelena Baturina, wired a Rosemont Seneca entity $3.5 million. On March 11,
2014, the wire was split up: $750,000 was transferred to Devon Archer, and the
remainder was sent to Rosemont Seneca Bohai, a company Devon Archer and Hunter
Biden split equally. In spring of 2014, Yelena Baturina joined Hunter Biden and
Devon Archer to share a meal with then-Vice President Biden at a restaurant in
Washington, D.C. The total amount from Russia to the Biden family and their
associates is $3.5 million.
Alan
2024-06-13 05:46:36 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 21:15:38 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
When did "requirement" become law. What LAW covers this "requirement" and
covers the designation "convicted felon"?
So... no law.
Gotcha.
'Conviction

” means the entry of a plea of guilty to, or a verdict of guilty upon,
an accusatory instrument '

NY Title 10
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
You're the one claiming that something called a "judgement of guilt"
exists, Loser-1.
LOL... just HAD to move the goalposts again, huh? Of COURSE you did, because
you can't FIND the LAW that says Trump is a "convicted felon" after the jury's
verdict. Just a New York DESIGNATION.
You're the one claiming this separate "judgment of guilt" exist, Loser-1.

I produced the law.

Now it's your turn.
AlleyCat
2024-06-13 06:33:16 UTC
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 22:46:36 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 21:15:38 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
When did "requirement" become law. What LAW covers this "requirement" and
covers the designation "convicted felon"?
So... no law.
Gotcha.
'Conviction
? means the entry of a plea of guilty to, or a verdict of guilty upon,
an accusatory instrument '
NY Title 10
I still don't see "convicted felon", so, you fail again.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Alan
You're the one claiming that something called a "judgement of guilt"
exists, Loser-1.
LOL... just HAD to move the goalposts again, huh? Of COURSE you did, because
you can't FIND the LAW that says Trump is a "convicted felon" after the jury's
verdict. Just a New York DESIGNATION.
You're the one claiming this separate "judgment of guilt" exist, Loser-1.
And I produced it.

Jed Rubenfeld - Professor of Law - Education
J.D., Harvard Law School, 1986
A.B., Princeton University, 1980

Courses Taught:

Advanced Constitutional Law
Criminal Procedure: Investigation

Jed Rubenfeld is a Professor of Law at Yale Law School. His subjects are
constitutional law, privacy, First Amendment, and criminal law. His recent
books include Freedom and Time and Revolution by Judiciary: The Structure of
American Constitutional Law. Professor Rubenfeld received his A.B. from
Princeton and his J.D. from Harvard.

https://i.imgur.com/zudNp5Q.mp4

Do you need the whole transcript so you can understand his words? OK. Take
about a minute.

I'll tell you something that you might not know. You've probably been reading
in the press, if you've been reading about this case, that Trump is already a
convicted felon. The jury has convicted him. "He's a convicted felon."

Well, guess what? That's not true. You're not a convicted felon because of a
jury verdict. You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt
against you.

YOU'RE NOT A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE OF A JURY VERDICT. YOU'RE NOT CONVICTED
UNLESS THE JUDGE ENTERS A JUDGMENT OF GUILT AGAINST YOU.

The judge still has the power as I told you before to throw out that verdict
and enter a judgment of acquittal. You are not convicted until the judge enters
that judgment of guilt.

YOU ARE NOT CONVICTED UNTIL THE JUDGE ENTERS THAT JUDGMENT OF GUILT.

Now, in New York, it's very likely that Judge Merchan will enter that judgment
of guilt against Trump on the same day that he issued sentencing. That'd be
July 11th. So what would this federal case be about in this federal action?
Trump would sue attorney Bragg and other state actors and ask the judge, the
federal judge for an emergency temporary restraining order halting Judge
Merchan from entering that judgment of guilt.
Post by Alan
I produced the law.
No... you didn't.

Produce the law that says a person is a convicted felon after the verdict ONLY.

THAT is your contention, so back it up.

Never mind... discussion is over, because you will not comply.

Oh, and I'll save you the time.

I'M RUNNING AWAAAAAAAY FROM A PUSSY, BECAUSE HE GOT ME TO DO WHAT HE WANTED ME
TO DO!

[giggle]

Now, if he would just man up, and grow a pair, and do it too.

Poor narcissistic dweebs.

============================================================================

Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, And These Trolls Will Lie,
Exaggerate, And Offend TO GET A RESPONSE [so true]

Loser
AlleyPussyBitch
Pole-puffing no-fight squat-to-piss shrieking estrogen-oozing
fairy
Pussey

Of course, these never work, AS INTENDED.

=====

An Internet troll is someone who enters an online discussion and posts comments
designed to upset or disrupt the conversation.

"Dark Tetrad" personality traits include narcissism, Machiavellianism,
psychopathy, and sadism.

(someone's been reading my possstss againnnnn)

In a study of 1200 people, Dark Tetrad scores were highest among people who
said trolling was their favorite Internet activity.

In this month's issue of Personality and Individual Differences, a study was
published that confirms what we all suspected: Internet trolls are horrible
people.

Let's start by getting our definitions straight: An Internet troll is someone
who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the
conversation. Often, in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind
their comments except to upset everyone else involved. Trolls will lie,
exaggerate, and offend to get a response.

What kind of person would do this? Some Canadian researchers decided to find
out.
Study: Internet Trolls and Dark Tetrad Personality Traits

They conducted two online studies with over 1,200 people, giving personality
tests to each subject along with a survey about their Internet commenting
behavior. They were looking for evidence that linked trolling with the "Dark
Tetrad" of personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and
sadism.

They found that Dark Tetrad scores were highest among people who said trolling
was their favorite Internet activity. To get an idea of how much more prevalent
these traits were among Internet trolls, one can refer to tables from the paper
showing low Dark Tetrad scores for everyone in the study ... except the trolls.
Their scores for all four traits soar on the chart. The relationship between
trolling and the Dark Tetrad is so significant that the authors write in their
paper:

"... the associations between sadism and GAIT (Global Assessment of Internet
Trolling) scores were so strong that it might be said that online trolls are
prototypical everyday sadists." [emphasis added]

Trolls truly enjoy making you feel bad. To quote the authors once more (because
this is a truly quotable article): "Both trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee
at the distress of others. Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet
is their playground!"

The next time you encounter a troll online, remember:

These trolls are some truly difficult people.
It is your suffering that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is
ignore them.
Loran
2024-06-13 15:33:22 UTC
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Post by Alan
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 21:15:38 -0700,  Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
When did "requirement" become law. What LAW covers this
"requirement" and
covers the designation "convicted felon"?
So... no law.
Gotcha.
'Conviction
” means the entry of a plea of guilty to, or a verdict of guilty upon,
an accusatory instrument '
NY Title 10
Post by Alan
You're the one claiming that something called a "judgement of guilt"
exists, Loser-1.
LOL... just HAD to move the goalposts again, huh? Of COURSE you did, because
you can't FIND the LAW that says Trump is a "convicted felon" after the jury's
verdict. Just a New York DESIGNATION.
You're the one claiming this separate "judgment of guilt" exist, Loser-1.
I produced the law.
Now it's your turn.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Alan
2024-06-13 15:59:58 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Alan
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 21:15:38 -0700,  Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
When did "requirement" become law. What LAW covers this
"requirement" and
covers the designation "convicted felon"?
So... no law.
Gotcha.
'Conviction
” means the entry of a plea of guilty to, or a verdict of guilty upon,
an accusatory instrument '
NY Title 10
Post by Alan
You're the one claiming that something called a "judgement of guilt"
exists, Loser-1.
LOL... just HAD to move the goalposts again, huh? Of COURSE you did, because
you can't FIND the LAW that says Trump is a "convicted felon" after the jury's
verdict. Just a New York DESIGNATION.
You're the one claiming this separate "judgment of guilt" exist, Loser-1.
I produced the law.
Now it's your turn.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
You have issues with reading for comprehension.
To be found guilty by a jury is to be convicted.

Period.

'convict

verb [with object] | kənˈvikt |

declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a
jury'

'conviction | kənˈvikSHən |

noun

1 a formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offense,
made by the verdict of a jury'
Loran
2024-06-13 15:32:52 UTC
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Post by Alan
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 17:52:41 -0700,  Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".
There is no such requirement in New York State law.
When did "requirement" become law. What LAW covers this "requirement" and
covers the designation "convicted felon"?
You're the one claiming that something called a "judgement of guilt"
exists, Loser-1.
I haven't seen you post it.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Alan
2024-06-13 16:00:05 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Alan
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 17:52:41 -0700,  Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".
There is no such requirement in New York State law.
When did "requirement" become law. What LAW covers this "requirement" and
covers the designation "convicted felon"?
You're the one claiming that something called a "judgement of guilt"
exists, Loser-1.
I haven't seen you post it.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
You have issues with reading for comprehension.
To be found guilty by a jury is to be convicted.

Period.

'convict

verb [with object] | kənˈvikt |

declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a
jury'

'conviction | kənˈvikSHən |

noun

1 a formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offense,
made by the verdict of a jury'
Loran
2024-06-13 15:31:06 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".
There is no such requirement in New York State law.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
Alan
2024-06-13 16:00:11 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no...
CERTAINLY not a
"convicted felon".
There is no such requirement in New York State law.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
You have issues with reading for comprehension.
To be found guilty by a jury is to be convicted.

Period.

'convict

verb [with object] | kənˈvikt |

declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a
jury'

'conviction | kənˈvikSHən |

noun

1 a formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offense,
made by the verdict of a jury'

AlleyCat
2024-06-13 03:11:05 UTC
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On every date, Rudy Canoza, forever the mental and physical midget, who was
*NEVER* a three sport letterman, like me, and who was *NEVER* a bouncer, like
me, and who was *NEVER* an assistant golf pro, like me, and who was *NEVER* a
lifeguard, like me, and who *NEVER* dunked a basketball, like me, and has
*NEVER* laid as many women as me, said...
New York... state imposes this designation
Designation? Pfft. What's in a name? Almost every where else, including at the
federal level, he is not.
Trump was a convicted felon as soon as the verdict was read
"By the way, Trump is not yet a convicted felon. He doesn't become one until
the judge passes sentence." - Rudy Canoza

=====

https://x.com/search?q=voting%20for%20felon&src=typed_query

KEEP CALLING TRUMP A CONVICTED FELON - IT'S BACKFIRING!!
"This verdict has solidified, I will be voting for Donald Trump in 2024 because
they are trying to take down our country! This is bigger than Trump!"
So many people voicing their support for Trump is beautiful to see!!
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1799445995635261440/vid/avc1/576x1024/eSj
m7c82dLBXx4_x.mp4?tag=16

=====

Twitter shots:

https://x.com/shot_chaser_

Voting for the convicted felon no matter what.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPWwZjeaAAA2ErC?format=jpg&name=small

This is the best video you will see today!
I'm voting for a "Convicted Felon" and his name is Donald J. Trump.

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1798150959014490112/vid/avc1/576x1024/Ydg
Gpk8jxNizCNnK.mp4?tag=16

If the left can praise George Floyd, a nine-time convicted criminal, and build
a statue in his name, then I can vote for Donald Trump, the convicted felon.

If the left can forgive Bill Clinton for cheating on his wife, then I can vote
for Donald Trump, a convicted felon.

If the left can forgive Cardi B for roofie men and stealing from them when she
was a stripper, then I can vote for Donald Trump, a convicted felon.

If the left can slap Hillary Clinton on the wrist for making up lies about
Trump and Russia colluding, then I can vote for Donald Trump, the convicted
felon.

If E. Jean Carroll can go around saying grape is sexy, then I can vote for
Donald Trump, the convicted felon.

If Joe Biden can forgive student loans even when the Supreme Court says he
can't, then I can vote for Donald Trump, the convicted felon.

If Hunter Biden can bring cocaine to the Capitol and get away with it, then I
can vote for Donald Trump, the convicted felon.

If Biden, Obama, and Clinton can illegally spy on Trump, then I can vote for
Donald Trump, the convicted felon.

If the left can suppress Hunter's laptop and Ashley's diary, then I can vote
for Donald Trump, the convicted felon.

You see, the left thought that convicting Trump and making everyone say
convicted felon repeatedly would damage his reputation. All they did was unite
us even more and show us just how far they were willing to go to win.

I truly believe the Democrats will stop at nothing to ensure Trump is not the
47th president. Nothing is beneath him at this point. So yes, although Trump is
a convicted felon now, he will still get my vote.

I don't care if I have to write Trump's name on the ballot. America needs to be
fixed no matter what it takes. We need to make sure this election is too big to
rig. I can't say it enough. Get out and vote. Take your neighbors with you.

Vote.

Trump 2024, baby. Let's go, Brandon.

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AlleyCat is one of the several people who dominate Rudy on a daily basis,
keeping their bootheels on his little pencil neck to the amusement of all.

Rudy's psychosis is characterized by an impaired relationship with reality.
It's a symptom of serious mental disorders. People who are experiencing
psychosis may have delusions.

The person experiencing psychosis may also have thoughts that are contrary to
actual EVIDENCE.

These thoughts are known as delusions. Some people with psychosis may also
experience loss of motivation and social withdrawal.

(like spending ALL day on Usenet, instead of socially interacting)

These experiences can be frightening. They may also cause people who are
experiencing psychosis to hurt themselves or others.

"I can kill you with one hand. You know this."

"Thanks for kicking my faggot ass."

"I've beaten you to a bloody pulp"

"... you you no-fight faggot."

"Kicked your flabby faggot ass again. Yes."

It's important to see a doctor right away if you or someone you know is
experiencing symptoms of psychosis.

Symptoms of psychosis include:

depressed mood
sleeping too much or not enough
anxiety
suspiciousness
withdrawal from family and friends
delusions
disorganized speech, such as switching topics erratically
depression
suicidal thoughts or actions

A delusion is a false belief or impression that is firmly held even though it's
contradicted by reality and what is commonly considered true. There are
delusions of paranoia, grandiose delusions, and somatic delusions.

People who are experiencing a delusion of paranoia might think that they are
being followed when they aren't or that secret messages are being sent to them.
Someone with a grandiose delusion will have an exaggerated sense of importance.
Somatic delusion is when a person believes they have a terminal illness, but in
reality they're healthy.
Loran
2024-06-13 15:30:41 UTC
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Post by Alan
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:29:38 -0700,  Chris Mueller says...
Post by AlleyCat
... Donald Trump is STILL not a convicted felon.
He *will be* on July 11
So?
And?
He's a convicted felon right now, Loser-1.
Try to learn to deal with reality.
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
pothead
2024-06-11 12:15:24 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 18:43:12 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
By the way, Trump is not yet a convicted felon. He doesn't become one until the
judge passes sentence. - Rudy Canoza
Yup.
TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling Trump a
convicted felon.
False.
Which part?
===
Joe Biden: Criminal
Phone Calls: Testimony from witnesses who told lawmakers Biden joined on
"multiple phone calls and had multiple interactions, dinners" with his son's
business partners, which the speaker alleged led to millions of dollars in
payments and cars to Hunter Biden and his associates.
Hunter Biden's former business partner Devon Archer testified to the House
Oversight Committee in July that he witnessed then-Vice President Biden and his
son have multiple "casual conversations" in the presence of Hunter's business
partners, including on speakerphone, but Archer said they did not involve any
business discussions.
Payments to Family Members: Bank records show Hunter Biden and his business
partners received $20 million in payments from various foreign entities and
about $7 million went directly to Biden family members, according to a
Washington Post analysis.
Bank Records: Suspicious Activity Reports detail various foreign transactions
Hunter Biden and his business partners engaged in-banks are required to file
these reports on a routine basis with the federal government to flag potential
illegal activity.
Bribery: Bribery allegation brought by an FBI source that alleges the CEO of
Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company Hunter Biden sat on the board of, paid $10
million to members of the Biden family to help remove a Ukrainian corruption
prosecutor.
The Bidens and their associates have received over $20 million in payments from
foreign entities.
Romania: On September 28, 2015, Vice President Biden welcomed Romanian
President Klaus Iohannis to the White House. Within five weeks of this meeting,
a Romanian businessman involved with a high-profile corruption prosecution in
Romania, Gabriel Popoviciu, began depositing a Biden associate's bank account,
which ultimately made their way into Biden family accounts. Popoviciu made
sixteen of the seventeen payments, totaling over $3 million, to the Biden
associate account while Joe Biden was Vice President. Biden family accounts
ultimately received approximately $1.038 million. The total amount from Romania
to the Biden family and their associates is over $3 million.
China- CEFC: On March 1, 2017-less than two months after Vice President Joe
Biden left public office-State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3
million to a Biden associate's account. This is the same bank account used in
the above "Romania" section. After the Chinese company wired the Biden
associate account the $3 million, the Biden family received approximately
$1,065,692 over a three-month period in different bank accounts. Additionally,
the CEFC Chairman gives Hunter Biden a diamond worth $80,000. Lastly, CEFC
creates a joint venture with the Bidens in the summer of 2017. The timeline
lays out the "WhatsApp" messages and subsequent wires from the Chinese to the
Bidens of $100,000 and $5 million. The total amount from China, specifically
with CEFC and their related entities, to the Biden family and their associates
is over $8 million.
More information will be provided in our upcoming Fourth Bank Memorandum.
Kazakhstan: On April 22, 2014, Kenes Rakishev, a Kazakhstani oligarch used his
Singaporean entity, Novatus Holdings, to wire one of Hunter Biden's Rosemont
Seneca entities $142,300. The very next day-April 23, 2014-the Rosemont Seneca
entity transferred the exact same amount of money to a car dealership for a car
for Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer would represent Burisma in
Kazakhstan in May/June of 2014 as the company attempted to broker a three-way
deal among Burisma, the Kazakhstan government, and a Chinese state-owned energy
company.
Ukraine: Devon Archer joined the Burisma board of directors in spring of 2014
and was joined by Hunter Biden shortly thereafter. Hunter Biden joined the
company as counsel, but after a meeting with Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky in
Lake Como, Italy, was elevated to the board of directors in the spring of 2014.
Both Biden and Archer were each paid $1 million per year for their positions on
the board of directors. In December 2015, after a Burisma board of directors
meeting, Zlochevsky and Hunter Biden "called D.C." in the wake of mounting
pressures the company was facing. Zlochevsky was later charged with bribing
Ukrainian officials with $6 million in an attempt to delay or drop the
investigation into his company. The total amount from Ukraine to the Biden
family and their associates is $6.5 million.
Russia: On February 14, 2014, a Russian oligarch and Russia's richest woman,
Yelena Baturina, wired a Rosemont Seneca entity $3.5 million. On March 11,
2014, the wire was split up: $750,000 was transferred to Devon Archer, and the
remainder was sent to Rosemont Seneca Bohai, a company Devon Archer and Hunter
Biden split equally. In spring of 2014, Yelena Baturina joined Hunter Biden and
Devon Archer to share a meal with then-Vice President Biden at a restaurant in
Washington, D.C. The total amount from Russia to the Biden family and their
associates is $3.5 million.
Why isn't the Biden family under indictment?
The republicans have been investigating the Bidens for a very long time.
Maybe they are being careful in building their case?
Possibly careful timing to coincide with the 24 election?

Thoughts?
--
pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
Johnny
2024-06-11 12:22:20 UTC
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Post by pothead
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 18:43:12 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
By the way, Trump is not yet a convicted felon. He doesn't
become one until the judge passes sentence. - Rudy Canoza
Yup.
TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling
Trump a convicted felon.
False.
Which part?
===
Joe Biden: Criminal
Phone Calls: Testimony from witnesses who told lawmakers Biden
joined on "multiple phone calls and had multiple interactions,
dinners" with his son's business partners, which the speaker
alleged led to millions of dollars in payments and cars to Hunter
Biden and his associates.
Hunter Biden's former business partner Devon Archer testified to
the House Oversight Committee in July that he witnessed then-Vice
President Biden and his son have multiple "casual conversations" in
the presence of Hunter's business partners, including on
speakerphone, but Archer said they did not involve any business
discussions.
Payments to Family Members: Bank records show Hunter Biden and his
business partners received $20 million in payments from various
foreign entities and about $7 million went directly to Biden family
members, according to a Washington Post analysis.
Bank Records: Suspicious Activity Reports detail various foreign
transactions Hunter Biden and his business partners engaged
in-banks are required to file these reports on a routine basis with
the federal government to flag potential illegal activity.
Bribery: Bribery allegation brought by an FBI source that alleges
the CEO of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company Hunter Biden sat on
the board of, paid $10 million to members of the Biden family to
help remove a Ukrainian corruption prosecutor.
The Bidens and their associates have received over $20 million in
payments from foreign entities.
Romania: On September 28, 2015, Vice President Biden welcomed
Romanian President Klaus Iohannis to the White House. Within five
weeks of this meeting, a Romanian businessman involved with a
high-profile corruption prosecution in Romania, Gabriel Popoviciu,
began depositing a Biden associate's bank account, which ultimately
made their way into Biden family accounts. Popoviciu made sixteen
of the seventeen payments, totaling over $3 million, to the Biden
associate account while Joe Biden was Vice President. Biden family
accounts ultimately received approximately $1.038 million. The
total amount from Romania to the Biden family and their associates
is over $3 million.
China- CEFC: On March 1, 2017-less than two months after Vice
President Joe Biden left public office-State Energy HK Limited, a
Chinese company, wired $3 million to a Biden associate's account.
This is the same bank account used in the above "Romania" section.
After the Chinese company wired the Biden associate account the $3
million, the Biden family received approximately $1,065,692 over a
three-month period in different bank accounts. Additionally, the
CEFC Chairman gives Hunter Biden a diamond worth $80,000. Lastly,
CEFC creates a joint venture with the Bidens in the summer of 2017.
The timeline lays out the "WhatsApp" messages and subsequent wires
from the Chinese to the Bidens of $100,000 and $5 million. The
total amount from China, specifically with CEFC and their related
entities, to the Biden family and their associates is over $8
million.
China- Bohai Harvest RST Equity Investment Fund Management Co.,
Ltd. (BHR): More information will be provided in our upcoming
Fourth Bank Memorandum.
Kazakhstan: On April 22, 2014, Kenes Rakishev, a Kazakhstani
oligarch used his Singaporean entity, Novatus Holdings, to wire one
of Hunter Biden's Rosemont Seneca entities $142,300. The very next
day-April 23, 2014-the Rosemont Seneca entity transferred the exact
same amount of money to a car dealership for a car for Hunter
Biden. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer would represent Burisma in
Kazakhstan in May/June of 2014 as the company attempted to broker a
three-way deal among Burisma, the Kazakhstan government, and a
Chinese state-owned energy company.
Ukraine: Devon Archer joined the Burisma board of directors in
spring of 2014 and was joined by Hunter Biden shortly thereafter.
Hunter Biden joined the company as counsel, but after a meeting
with Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky in Lake Como, Italy, was
elevated to the board of directors in the spring of 2014. Both
Biden and Archer were each paid $1 million per year for their
positions on the board of directors. In December 2015, after a
Burisma board of directors meeting, Zlochevsky and Hunter Biden
"called D.C." in the wake of mounting pressures the company was
facing. Zlochevsky was later charged with bribing Ukrainian
officials with $6 million in an attempt to delay or drop the
investigation into his company. The total amount from Ukraine to
the Biden family and their associates is $6.5 million.
Russia: On February 14, 2014, a Russian oligarch and Russia's
richest woman, Yelena Baturina, wired a Rosemont Seneca entity $3.5
million. On March 11, 2014, the wire was split up: $750,000 was
transferred to Devon Archer, and the remainder was sent to Rosemont
Seneca Bohai, a company Devon Archer and Hunter Biden split
equally. In spring of 2014, Yelena Baturina joined Hunter Biden and
Devon Archer to share a meal with then-Vice President Biden at a
restaurant in Washington, D.C. The total amount from Russia to the
Biden family and their associates is $3.5 million.
Why isn't the Biden family under indictment?
The republicans have been investigating the Bidens for a very long
time. Maybe they are being careful in building their case?
Possibly careful timing to coincide with the 24 election?
Thoughts?
Probably because the attorney general is Merrick Garland.
pothead
2024-06-11 12:54:07 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 12:15:24 -0000 (UTC)
Post by pothead
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 18:43:12 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
By the way, Trump is not yet a convicted felon. He doesn't
become one until the judge passes sentence. - Rudy Canoza
Yup.
TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling
Trump a convicted felon.
False.
Which part?
===
Joe Biden: Criminal
Phone Calls: Testimony from witnesses who told lawmakers Biden
joined on "multiple phone calls and had multiple interactions,
dinners" with his son's business partners, which the speaker
alleged led to millions of dollars in payments and cars to Hunter
Biden and his associates.
Hunter Biden's former business partner Devon Archer testified to
the House Oversight Committee in July that he witnessed then-Vice
President Biden and his son have multiple "casual conversations" in
the presence of Hunter's business partners, including on
speakerphone, but Archer said they did not involve any business
discussions.
Payments to Family Members: Bank records show Hunter Biden and his
business partners received $20 million in payments from various
foreign entities and about $7 million went directly to Biden family
members, according to a Washington Post analysis.
Bank Records: Suspicious Activity Reports detail various foreign
transactions Hunter Biden and his business partners engaged
in-banks are required to file these reports on a routine basis with
the federal government to flag potential illegal activity.
Bribery: Bribery allegation brought by an FBI source that alleges
the CEO of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company Hunter Biden sat on
the board of, paid $10 million to members of the Biden family to
help remove a Ukrainian corruption prosecutor.
The Bidens and their associates have received over $20 million in
payments from foreign entities.
Romania: On September 28, 2015, Vice President Biden welcomed
Romanian President Klaus Iohannis to the White House. Within five
weeks of this meeting, a Romanian businessman involved with a
high-profile corruption prosecution in Romania, Gabriel Popoviciu,
began depositing a Biden associate's bank account, which ultimately
made their way into Biden family accounts. Popoviciu made sixteen
of the seventeen payments, totaling over $3 million, to the Biden
associate account while Joe Biden was Vice President. Biden family
accounts ultimately received approximately $1.038 million. The
total amount from Romania to the Biden family and their associates
is over $3 million.
China- CEFC: On March 1, 2017-less than two months after Vice
President Joe Biden left public office-State Energy HK Limited, a
Chinese company, wired $3 million to a Biden associate's account.
This is the same bank account used in the above "Romania" section.
After the Chinese company wired the Biden associate account the $3
million, the Biden family received approximately $1,065,692 over a
three-month period in different bank accounts. Additionally, the
CEFC Chairman gives Hunter Biden a diamond worth $80,000. Lastly,
CEFC creates a joint venture with the Bidens in the summer of 2017.
The timeline lays out the "WhatsApp" messages and subsequent wires
from the Chinese to the Bidens of $100,000 and $5 million. The
total amount from China, specifically with CEFC and their related
entities, to the Biden family and their associates is over $8
million.
China- Bohai Harvest RST Equity Investment Fund Management Co.,
Ltd. (BHR): More information will be provided in our upcoming
Fourth Bank Memorandum.
Kazakhstan: On April 22, 2014, Kenes Rakishev, a Kazakhstani
oligarch used his Singaporean entity, Novatus Holdings, to wire one
of Hunter Biden's Rosemont Seneca entities $142,300. The very next
day-April 23, 2014-the Rosemont Seneca entity transferred the exact
same amount of money to a car dealership for a car for Hunter
Biden. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer would represent Burisma in
Kazakhstan in May/June of 2014 as the company attempted to broker a
three-way deal among Burisma, the Kazakhstan government, and a
Chinese state-owned energy company.
Ukraine: Devon Archer joined the Burisma board of directors in
spring of 2014 and was joined by Hunter Biden shortly thereafter.
Hunter Biden joined the company as counsel, but after a meeting
with Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky in Lake Como, Italy, was
elevated to the board of directors in the spring of 2014. Both
Biden and Archer were each paid $1 million per year for their
positions on the board of directors. In December 2015, after a
Burisma board of directors meeting, Zlochevsky and Hunter Biden
"called D.C." in the wake of mounting pressures the company was
facing. Zlochevsky was later charged with bribing Ukrainian
officials with $6 million in an attempt to delay or drop the
investigation into his company. The total amount from Ukraine to
the Biden family and their associates is $6.5 million.
Russia: On February 14, 2014, a Russian oligarch and Russia's
richest woman, Yelena Baturina, wired a Rosemont Seneca entity $3.5
million. On March 11, 2014, the wire was split up: $750,000 was
transferred to Devon Archer, and the remainder was sent to Rosemont
Seneca Bohai, a company Devon Archer and Hunter Biden split
equally. In spring of 2014, Yelena Baturina joined Hunter Biden and
Devon Archer to share a meal with then-Vice President Biden at a
restaurant in Washington, D.C. The total amount from Russia to the
Biden family and their associates is $3.5 million.
Why isn't the Biden family under indictment?
The republicans have been investigating the Bidens for a very long
time. Maybe they are being careful in building their case?
Possibly careful timing to coincide with the 24 election?
Thoughts?
Probably because the attorney general is Merrick Garland.
Good point.
That guy makes Al Capone look like an alter boy.
--
pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
Loran
2024-06-11 15:21:19 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling Trump a
convicted felon.
False.
Only since Musk cleaned house on the scumbags there.
Alan
2024-06-12 20:58:15 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 07:11:51 -0700, J Carlson says...
Watch and listen to Trump explain how he would choose between
<https://twitter.com/KeejayOV3/status/1799900643034857547>
(86-second video at URL)
You can't make this shit up.
He's shot.
By the way, Trump is not yet a convicted felon. He doesn't become one until the
judge passes sentence.
Yup.
TOO many people on Twitter and other social media keep calling Trump a
convicted felon.
I can't wait till he appeals and wins, making it so they can't do that any
more.
Will YOU cry too?
Your fellow loser shows your bullshit:

"
<https://nyccriminallawyer.com/ny-criminal-system/sentencing-in-new-york/>

New York City Criminal Attorney Explains “Sentencing”

SENTENCING occurs post-conviction and can be decided by either judge or
jury."

Tell me, Loser-1:

What does "post-conviction" mean?

:-)
Loran
2024-06-12 23:07:24 UTC
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Post by Alan
What does "post-conviction" mean?
"the "convicted felon" title is still pending...

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
— at least not until he gets his official sentence."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

You have issues with reading for comprehension.
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