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Barack Obama's 'lost' brother found in Kenya Senator Barack Obama's long lost brother has been tracked down for the first time living in a shanty town in Kenya, reports claimed.
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527_blue_collar_worker
2008-08-20 20:41:12 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."

The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.

Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
more at:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html
Sid9
2008-08-20 21:16:23 UTC
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Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
527_blue_collar_worker
2008-08-20 21:28:47 UTC
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Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it?  And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Sid9
2008-08-20 21:42:08 UTC
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Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
You never had an original though in your life.
Your post came straight from Limbo today
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-20 22:15:12 UTC
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Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
You never had an original though in your life.
Your post came straight from Limbo today
The idea that he got that from Rush came from the fact that YOU were
listening to Rush, Sid, ya dunce.

-Eddie Haskell
Sid9
2008-08-20 22:40:06 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Sid9
Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
You never had an original though in your life.
Your post came straight from Limbo today
The idea that he got that from Rush came from the fact that YOU were
listening to Rush, Sid, ya dunce.
-Eddie Haskell
Huh?
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-21 15:44:24 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Sid9
Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
You never had an original though in your life.
Your post came straight from Limbo today
The idea that he got that from Rush came from the fact that YOU were
listening to Rush, Sid, ya dunce.
-Eddie Haskell
Huh?
Sid, when the hell are you going to opt for that hearing aid? Get up off
your ass and contact Medicare. Sitting in that rocking chair and looking out
the window lamenting good ole FDR days will get you nowhere..

-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-20 21:47:22 UTC
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Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?

Must be a ditto head..

Oh, the irony..

Oh, the projection..

-Eddie Haskell
Sid9
2008-08-20 21:52:24 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.

527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!
527_blue_collar_worker
2008-08-21 01:51:43 UTC
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Post by Sid9
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush.  It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
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That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.
genie
2008-08-21 01:55:43 UTC
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Post by Sid9
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush.  It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie.  Not only a lie, but a damned lie.  I have not listened
to Rush L. in months.  That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
Lamont Cranston
2008-08-21 14:54:43 UTC
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"527_blue_collar_worker"
Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now
does it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your
brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it
had found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a
ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential
candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about
his life,
which could not be more different than that of
the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original
thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have
not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call
people that
beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/?gclid=CPDukrSXn5UCFQS7sgodZzjPjw

False Pretenses - 935 Lies About Iraq

Following 9/11, President Bush and seven top officials of
his administration waged a carefully orchestrated campaign
of misinformation about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's
Iraq.


By Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith
January 23, 2008

President George W. Bush and seven of his administration's
top officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney,
National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, and Defense
Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, made at least 935 false
statements in the two years following September 11, 2001,
about the national security threat posed by Saddam Hussein's
Iraq. Nearly five years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, an
exhaustive examination of the record shows that the
statements were part of an orchestrated campaign that
effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process,
led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses.

On at least 532 separate occasions (in speeches, briefings,
interviews, testimony, and the like), Bush and these three
key officials, along with Secretary of State Colin Powell,
Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, and White House
press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan, stated
unequivocally that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (or
was trying to produce or obtain them), links to Al Qaeda, or
both. This concerted effort was the underpinning of the Bush
administration's case for war.

It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any
weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to Al
Qaeda. This was the conclusion of numerous bipartisan
government investigations, including those by the Senate
Select Committee on Intelligence (2004 and 2006), the 9/11
Commission, and the multinational Iraq Survey Group, whose
"Duelfer Report" established that Saddam Hussein had
terminated Iraq's nuclear program in 1991 and made little
effort to restart it.

In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on
the basis of erroneous information that it methodically
propagated and that culminated in military action against
Iraq on March 19, 2003. Not surprisingly, the officials with
the most opportunities to make speeches, grant media
interviews, and otherwise frame the public debate also made
the most false statements, according to this first-ever
analysis of the entire body of prewar rhetoric.

President Bush, for example, made 232 false statements about
weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and another 28 false
statements about Iraq's links to Al Qaeda. Secretary of
State Powell had the second-highest total in the two-year
period, with 244 false statements about weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq's links to Al Qaeda.
Rumsfeld and Fleischer each made 109 false statements,
followed by Wolfowitz (with 85), Rice (with 56), Cheney
(with 48), and McClellan (with 14).

The massive database at the heart of this project juxtaposes
what President Bush and these seven top officials were
saying for public consumption against what was known, or
should have been known, on a day-to-day basis. This fully
searchable database includes the public statements, drawn
from both primary sources (such as official transcripts) and
secondary sources (chiefly major news organizations) over
the two years beginning on September 11, 2001. It also
interlaces relevant information from more than 25 government
reports, books, articles, speeches, and interviews.

Consider, for example, these false public statements made in
the run-up to war:

a.. On August 26, 2002, in an address to the national
convention of the Veteran of Foreign Wars, Cheney flatly
declared: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam
Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no
doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends,
against our allies, and against us." In fact, former CIA
Director George Tenet later recalled, Cheney's assertions
went well beyond his agency's assessments at the time.
Another CIA official, referring to the same speech, told
journalist Ron Suskind, "Our reaction was, 'Where is he
getting this stuff from?' "
b.. In the closing days of September 2002, with a
congressional vote fast approaching on authorizing the use
of military force in Iraq, Bush told the nation in his
weekly radio address: "The Iraqi regime possesses biological
and chemical weapons, is rebuilding the facilities to make
more and, according to the British government, could launch
a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45 minutes
after the order is given. . . . This regime is seeking a
nuclear bomb, and with fissile material could build one
within a year." A few days later, similar findings were also
included in a much-hurried National Intelligence Estimate on
Iraq's weapons of mass destruction — an analysis that hadn't
been done in years, as the intelligence community had deemed
it unnecessary and the White House hadn't requested it.
c.. In July 2002, Rumsfeld had a one-word answer for
reporters who asked whether Iraq had relationships with Al
Qaeda terrorists: "Sure." In fact, an assessment issued that
same month by the Defense Intelligence Agency (and confirmed
weeks later by CIA Director Tenet) found an absence of
"compelling evidence demonstrating direct cooperation
between the government of Iraq and Al Qaeda." What's more,
an earlier DIA assessment said that "the nature of the
regime's relationship with Al Qaeda is unclear."
d.. On May 29, 2003, in an interview with Polish TV,
President Bush declared: "We found the weapons of mass
destruction. We found biological laboratories." But as
journalist Bob Woodward reported in State of Denial, days
earlier a team of civilian experts dispatched to examine the
two mobile labs found in Iraq had concluded in a field
report that the labs were not for biological weapons. The
team's final report, completed the following month,
concluded that the labs had probably been used to
manufacture hydrogen for weather balloons.
e.. On January 28, 2003, in his annual State of the Union
address, Bush asserted: "The British government has learned
that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities
of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us
that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum
tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production." Two weeks
earlier, an analyst with the State Department's Bureau of
Intelligence and Research sent an email to colleagues in the
intelligence community laying out why he believed the
uranium-purchase agreement "probably is a hoax."
f.. On February 5, 2003, in an address to the United
Nations Security Council, Powell said: "What we're giving
you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence. I
will cite some examples, and these are from human sources."
As it turned out, however, two of the main human sources to
which Powell referred had provided false information. One
was an Iraqi con artist, code-named "Curveball," whom
American intelligence officials were dubious about and in
fact had never even spoken to. The other was an Al Qaeda
detainee, Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libi, who had reportedly been
sent to Eqypt by the CIA and tortured and who later recanted
the information he had provided. Libi told the CIA in
January 2004 that he had "decided he would fabricate any
information interrogators wanted in order to gain better
treatment and avoid being handed over to [a foreign
government]."
The false statements dramatically increased in August 2002,
with congressional consideration of a war resolution, then
escalated through the mid-term elections and spiked even
higher from January 2003 to the eve of the invasion.

It was during those critical weeks in early 2003 that the
president delivered his State of the Union address and
Powell delivered his memorable U.N. presentation. For all
935 false statements, including when and where they
occurred, go to the search page for this project; the
methodology used for this analysis is explained here.

In addition to their patently false pronouncements, Bush and
these seven top officials also made hundreds of other
statements in the two years after 9/11 in which they implied
that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or links to Al
Qaeda. Other administration higher-ups, joined by Pentagon
officials and Republican leaders in Congress, also routinely
sounded false war alarms in the Washington echo chamber.

The cumulative effect of these false statements — amplified
by thousands of news stories and broadcasts — was massive,
with the media coverage creating an almost impenetrable din
for several critical months in the run-up to war. Some
journalists — indeed, even some entire news organizations —
have since acknowledged that their coverage during those
prewar months was far too deferential and uncritical. These
mea culpas notwithstanding, much of the wall-to-wall media
coverage provided additional, "independent" validation of
the Bush administration's false statements about Iraq.

The "ground truth" of the Iraq war itself eventually forced
the president to backpedal, albeit grudgingly. In a 2004
appearance on NBC's Meet the Press, for example, Bush
acknowledged that no weapons of mass destruction had been
found in Iraq. And on December 18, 2005, with his approval
ratings on the decline, Bush told the nation in a
Sunday-night address from the Oval Office: "It is true that
Saddam Hussein had a history of pursuing and using weapons
of mass destruction. It is true that he systematically
concealed those programs, and blocked the work of U.N.
weapons inspectors. It is true that many nations believed
that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. But much of the
intelligence turned out to be wrong. As your president, I am
responsible for the decision to go into Iraq. Yet it was
right to remove Saddam Hussein from power."

Bush stopped short, however, of admitting error or poor
judgment; instead, his administration repeatedly attributed
the stark disparity between its prewar public statements and
the actual "ground truth" regarding the threat posed by Iraq
to poor intelligence from a Who's Who of domestic agencies.

On the other hand, a growing number of critics, including a
parade of former government officials, have publicly — and
in some cases vociferously — accused the president and his
inner circle of ignoring or distorting the available
intelligence. In the end, these critics say, it was the
calculated drumbeat of false information and public
pronouncements that ultimately misled the American people
and this nation's allies on their way to war.

Bush and the top officials of his administration have so far
largely avoided the harsh, sustained glare of formal
scrutiny about their personal responsibility for the litany
of repeated, false statements in the run-up to the war in
Iraq. There has been no congressional investigation, for
example, into what exactly was going on inside the Bush
White House in that period. Congressional oversight has
focused almost entirely on the quality of the U.S.
government's pre-war intelligence — not the judgment, public
statements, or public accountability of its highest
officials. And, of course, only four of the officials —
Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz — have testified
before Congress about Iraq.

Short of such review, this project provides a heretofore
unavailable framework for examining how the U.S. war in Iraq
came to pass. Clearly, it calls into question the repeated
assertions of Bush administration officials that they were
the unwitting victims of bad intelligence.

Above all, the 935 false statements painstakingly presented
here finally help to answer two all-too-familiar questions
as they apply to Bush and his top advisers: What did they
know, and when did they know it?
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-21 16:04:23 UTC
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Post by genie
Post by Sid9
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Sid9
Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/?gclid=CPDukrSXn5UCFQS7sgodZzjPjw
False Pretenses - 935 Lies About Iraq
Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the same as
lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.

But please do tell us how many supposed lies democrats told us about WMDs,
you useless goddamn lying piece of fucking SHIT.

"The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed Iraq's
illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam Hussein did not
try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by the chief U.S.
weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every prewar assertion
made by top administration officials about Iraq."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat
Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use
them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and
all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow."

-Bill Clinton - 1998

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that
Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also
given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members,
though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible
events of September 11, 2001."

-Hillary Clinton - 2002

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html

The Guardian - February 6, 1999

"Saddam Hussein's regime has opened talks with Osama bin Laden, bringing
closer the threat of a terrorist attack using chemical, biological or
nuclear weapons, according to US intelligence sources and Iraqi opposition
officials."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,314700,00.html

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to
develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That
is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We
want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass
destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal
here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear,
chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest
security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times
since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S.
Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate,
air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to
the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction
programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct.
9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he
has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons
programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam
continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a
licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten
the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate
of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e
means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in
power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing
weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to
build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence
reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority
to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe
that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real
and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively
to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the
next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated
the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every
significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his
chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has
refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that
Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also
given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members
... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will
continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare,
and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam
Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for
the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is
real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

-Eddie Haskell
Post by Lamont Cranston
Following 9/11, President Bush and seven top officials of his
administration waged a carefully orchestrated campaign of misinformation
about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
By Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith
January 23, 2008
President George W. Bush and seven of his administration's top officials,
including Vice President Dick Cheney, National Security Adviser
Condoleezza Rice, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, made at least 935
false statements in the two years following September 11, 2001, about the
national security threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Nearly five years
after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, an exhaustive examination of the record
shows that the statements were part of an orchestrated campaign that
effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation
to war under decidedly false pretenses.
On at least 532 separate occasions (in speeches, briefings, interviews,
testimony, and the like), Bush and these three key officials, along with
Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz,
and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan,
stated unequivocally that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (or was
trying to produce or obtain them), links to Al Qaeda, or both. This
concerted effort was the underpinning of the Bush administration's case
for war.
It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass
destruction or have meaningful ties to Al Qaeda. This was the conclusion
of numerous bipartisan government investigations, including those by the
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (2004 and 2006), the 9/11
Commission, and the multinational Iraq Survey Group, whose "Duelfer
Report" established that Saddam Hussein had terminated Iraq's nuclear
program in 1991 and made little effort to restart it.
In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of
erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated
in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003. Not surprisingly, the
officials with the most opportunities to make speeches, grant media
interviews, and otherwise frame the public debate also made the most false
statements, according to this first-ever analysis of the entire body of
prewar rhetoric.
President Bush, for example, made 232 false statements about weapons of
mass destruction in Iraq and another 28 false statements about Iraq's
links to Al Qaeda. Secretary of State Powell had the second-highest total
in the two-year period, with 244 false statements about weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq's links to Al Qaeda. Rumsfeld and
Fleischer each made 109 false statements, followed by Wolfowitz (with 85),
Rice (with 56), Cheney (with 48), and McClellan (with 14).
The massive database at the heart of this project juxtaposes what
President Bush and these seven top officials were saying for public
consumption against what was known, or should have been known, on a
day-to-day basis. This fully searchable database includes the public
statements, drawn from both primary sources (such as official transcripts)
and secondary sources (chiefly major news organizations) over the two
years beginning on September 11, 2001. It also interlaces relevant
information from more than 25 government reports, books, articles,
speeches, and interviews.
Consider, for example, these false public statements made in the run-up to
a.. On August 26, 2002, in an address to the national convention of the
Veteran of Foreign Wars, Cheney flatly declared: "Simply stated, there is
no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is
no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our
allies, and against us." In fact, former CIA Director George Tenet later
recalled, Cheney's assertions went well beyond his agency's assessments at
the time. Another CIA official, referring to the same speech, told
journalist Ron Suskind, "Our reaction was, 'Where is he getting this stuff
from?' "
b.. In the closing days of September 2002, with a congressional vote fast
approaching on authorizing the use of military force in Iraq, Bush told
the nation in his weekly radio address: "The Iraqi regime possesses
biological and chemical weapons, is rebuilding the facilities to make more
and, according to the British government, could launch a biological or
chemical attack in as little as 45 minutes after the order is given. . . .
This regime is seeking a nuclear bomb, and with fissile material could
build one within a year." A few days later, similar findings were also
included in a much-hurried National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq's
weapons of mass destruction — an analysis that hadn't been done in years,
as the intelligence community had deemed it unnecessary and the White
House hadn't requested it.
c.. In July 2002, Rumsfeld had a one-word answer for reporters who asked
whether Iraq had relationships with Al Qaeda terrorists: "Sure." In fact,
an assessment issued that same month by the Defense Intelligence Agency
(and confirmed weeks later by CIA Director Tenet) found an absence of
"compelling evidence demonstrating direct cooperation between the
government of Iraq and Al Qaeda." What's more, an earlier DIA assessment
said that "the nature of the regime's relationship with Al Qaeda is
unclear."
d.. On May 29, 2003, in an interview with Polish TV, President Bush
declared: "We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological
laboratories." But as journalist Bob Woodward reported in State of Denial,
days earlier a team of civilian experts dispatched to examine the two
mobile labs found in Iraq had concluded in a field report that the labs
were not for biological weapons. The team's final report, completed the
following month, concluded that the labs had probably been used to
manufacture hydrogen for weather balloons.
e.. On January 28, 2003, in his annual State of the Union address, Bush
asserted: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently
sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence
sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum
tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production." Two weeks earlier, an
analyst with the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research
sent an email to colleagues in the intelligence community laying out why
he believed the uranium-purchase agreement "probably is a hoax."
f.. On February 5, 2003, in an address to the United Nations Security
Council, Powell said: "What we're giving you are facts and conclusions
based on solid intelligence. I will cite some examples, and these are from
human sources." As it turned out, however, two of the main human sources
to which Powell referred had provided false information. One was an Iraqi
con artist, code-named "Curveball," whom American intelligence officials
were dubious about and in fact had never even spoken to. The other was an
Al Qaeda detainee, Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libi, who had reportedly been sent to
Eqypt by the CIA and tortured and who later recanted the information he
had provided. Libi told the CIA in January 2004 that he had "decided he
would fabricate any information interrogators wanted in order to gain
better treatment and avoid being handed over to [a foreign government]."
The false statements dramatically increased in August 2002, with
congressional consideration of a war resolution, then escalated through
the mid-term elections and spiked even higher from January 2003 to the eve
of the invasion.
It was during those critical weeks in early 2003 that the president
delivered his State of the Union address and Powell delivered his
memorable U.N. presentation. For all 935 false statements, including when
and where they occurred, go to the search page for this project; the
methodology used for this analysis is explained here.
In addition to their patently false pronouncements, Bush and these seven
top officials also made hundreds of other statements in the two years
after 9/11 in which they implied that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction
or links to Al Qaeda. Other administration higher-ups, joined by Pentagon
officials and Republican leaders in Congress, also routinely sounded false
war alarms in the Washington echo chamber.
The cumulative effect of these false statements — amplified by thousands
of news stories and broadcasts — was massive, with the media coverage
creating an almost impenetrable din for several critical months in the
run-up to war. Some journalists — indeed, even some entire news
organizations — have since acknowledged that their coverage during those
prewar months was far too deferential and uncritical. These mea culpas
notwithstanding, much of the wall-to-wall media coverage provided
additional, "independent" validation of the Bush administration's false
statements about Iraq.
The "ground truth" of the Iraq war itself eventually forced the president
to backpedal, albeit grudgingly. In a 2004 appearance on NBC's Meet the
Press, for example, Bush acknowledged that no weapons of mass destruction
had been found in Iraq. And on December 18, 2005, with his approval
ratings on the decline, Bush told the nation in a Sunday-night address
from the Oval Office: "It is true that Saddam Hussein had a history of
pursuing and using weapons of mass destruction. It is true that he
systematically concealed those programs, and blocked the work of U.N.
weapons inspectors. It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had
weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to be
wrong. As your president, I am responsible for the decision to go into
Iraq. Yet it was right to remove Saddam Hussein from power."
Bush stopped short, however, of admitting error or poor judgment; instead,
his administration repeatedly attributed the stark disparity between its
prewar public statements and the actual "ground truth" regarding the
threat posed by Iraq to poor intelligence from a Who's Who of domestic
agencies.
On the other hand, a growing number of critics, including a parade of
former government officials, have publicly — and in some cases
vociferously — accused the president and his inner circle of ignoring or
distorting the available intelligence. In the end, these critics say, it
was the calculated drumbeat of false information and public pronouncements
that ultimately misled the American people and this nation's allies on
their way to war.
Bush and the top officials of his administration have so far largely
avoided the harsh, sustained glare of formal scrutiny about their personal
responsibility for the litany of repeated, false statements in the run-up
to the war in Iraq. There has been no congressional investigation, for
example, into what exactly was going on inside the Bush White House in
that period. Congressional oversight has focused almost entirely on the
quality of the U.S. government's pre-war intelligence — not the judgment,
public statements, or public accountability of its highest officials. And,
of course, only four of the officials — Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld, and
Wolfowitz — have testified before Congress about Iraq.
Short of such review, this project provides a heretofore unavailable
framework for examining how the U.S. war in Iraq came to pass. Clearly, it
calls into question the repeated assertions of Bush administration
officials that they were the unwitting victims of bad intelligence.
Above all, the 935 false statements painstakingly presented here finally
help to answer two all-too-familiar questions as they apply to Bush and
his top advisers: What did they know, and when did they know it?
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
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That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
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Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/?gclid=CPDukrSXn5UCFQS7sgodZzjPjw
False Pretenses - 935 Lies About Iraq
Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the same as
lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.
When you've been told the exact opposite, by your own intelligence
organizations, and then go ahead and loudly proclaim the "wrong" information
as being backed up by "undeniable evidence" that doesn't exist, then it's a
lie.
Post by Eddie Haskell
But please do tell us how many supposed lies democrats told us about WMDs,
you useless goddamn lying piece of fucking SHIT.
When you're spoon-fed lies by a corrupt administration, and the truth that
the administration has available isn't presented to you, then repeating the
lies is nowhere near as heinous as the original lie.
Post by Eddie Haskell
"The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed
Iraq's illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam Hussein
did not try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by the chief
U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every prewar
assertion made by top administration officials about Iraq."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat
Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use
them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and
all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow."
-Bill Clinton - 1998
Quite probably true in 1998. No longer true in 2003.
Post by Eddie Haskell
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that
Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also
given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members,
though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible
events of September 11, 2001."
-Hillary Clinton - 2002
Yup. That's what the Bush Administration told her. And told everyone else.
Post by Eddie Haskell
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
The Guardian - February 6, 1999
"Saddam Hussein's regime has opened talks with Osama bin Laden, bringing
closer the threat of a terrorist attack using chemical, biological or
nuclear weapons, according to US intelligence sources and Iraqi opposition
officials."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,314700,00.html
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to
develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That
is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass
destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great
deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use
nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the
greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times
since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the
U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if
appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond
effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of
mass destruction programs."
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others,
Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he
has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons
programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam
continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of
a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will
threaten the United States and our allies."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction
and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is
in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to
build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence
reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority
to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe
that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a
real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have
always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of
weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years,
every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and
destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity.
This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.
He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al
Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam
Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and
chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is
real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
-Eddie Haskell
Post by Lamont Cranston
Following 9/11, President Bush and seven top officials of his
administration waged a carefully orchestrated campaign of misinformation
about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
By Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith
January 23, 2008
President George W. Bush and seven of his administration's top officials,
including Vice President Dick Cheney, National Security Adviser
Condoleezza Rice, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, made at least
935 false statements in the two years following September 11, 2001, about
the national security threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Nearly five
years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, an exhaustive examination of the
record shows that the statements were part of an orchestrated campaign
that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the
nation to war under decidedly false pretenses.
On at least 532 separate occasions (in speeches, briefings, interviews,
testimony, and the like), Bush and these three key officials, along with
Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz,
and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan,
stated unequivocally that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (or was
trying to produce or obtain them), links to Al Qaeda, or both. This
concerted effort was the underpinning of the Bush administration's case
for war.
It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass
destruction or have meaningful ties to Al Qaeda. This was the conclusion
of numerous bipartisan government investigations, including those by the
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (2004 and 2006), the 9/11
Commission, and the multinational Iraq Survey Group, whose "Duelfer
Report" established that Saddam Hussein had terminated Iraq's nuclear
program in 1991 and made little effort to restart it.
In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of
erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated
in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003. Not surprisingly, the
officials with the most opportunities to make speeches, grant media
interviews, and otherwise frame the public debate also made the most
false statements, according to this first-ever analysis of the entire
body of prewar rhetoric.
President Bush, for example, made 232 false statements about weapons of
mass destruction in Iraq and another 28 false statements about Iraq's
links to Al Qaeda. Secretary of State Powell had the second-highest total
in the two-year period, with 244 false statements about weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq's links to Al Qaeda. Rumsfeld and
Fleischer each made 109 false statements, followed by Wolfowitz (with
85), Rice (with 56), Cheney (with 48), and McClellan (with 14).
The massive database at the heart of this project juxtaposes what
President Bush and these seven top officials were saying for public
consumption against what was known, or should have been known, on a
day-to-day basis. This fully searchable database includes the public
statements, drawn from both primary sources (such as official
transcripts) and secondary sources (chiefly major news organizations)
over the two years beginning on September 11, 2001. It also interlaces
relevant information from more than 25 government reports, books,
articles, speeches, and interviews.
Consider, for example, these false public statements made in the run-up
a.. On August 26, 2002, in an address to the national convention of the
Veteran of Foreign Wars, Cheney flatly declared: "Simply stated, there is
no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There
is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our
allies, and against us." In fact, former CIA Director George Tenet later
recalled, Cheney's assertions went well beyond his agency's assessments
at the time. Another CIA official, referring to the same speech, told
journalist Ron Suskind, "Our reaction was, 'Where is he getting this
stuff from?' "
b.. In the closing days of September 2002, with a congressional vote
fast approaching on authorizing the use of military force in Iraq, Bush
told the nation in his weekly radio address: "The Iraqi regime possesses
biological and chemical weapons, is rebuilding the facilities to make
more and, according to the British government, could launch a biological
or chemical attack in as little as 45 minutes after the order is given. .
. . This regime is seeking a nuclear bomb, and with fissile material
could build one within a year." A few days later, similar findings were
also included in a much-hurried National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq's
weapons of mass destruction - an analysis that hadn't been done in years,
as the intelligence community had deemed it unnecessary and the White
House hadn't requested it.
c.. In July 2002, Rumsfeld had a one-word answer for reporters who asked
whether Iraq had relationships with Al Qaeda terrorists: "Sure." In fact,
an assessment issued that same month by the Defense Intelligence Agency
(and confirmed weeks later by CIA Director Tenet) found an absence of
"compelling evidence demonstrating direct cooperation between the
government of Iraq and Al Qaeda." What's more, an earlier DIA assessment
said that "the nature of the regime's relationship with Al Qaeda is
unclear."
d.. On May 29, 2003, in an interview with Polish TV, President Bush
declared: "We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological
laboratories." But as journalist Bob Woodward reported in State of
Denial, days earlier a team of civilian experts dispatched to examine the
two mobile labs found in Iraq had concluded in a field report that the
labs were not for biological weapons. The team's final report, completed
the following month, concluded that the labs had probably been used to
manufacture hydrogen for weather balloons.
e.. On January 28, 2003, in his annual State of the Union address, Bush
asserted: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein
recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our
intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase
high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production."
Two weeks earlier, an analyst with the State Department's Bureau of
Intelligence and Research sent an email to colleagues in the intelligence
community laying out why he believed the uranium-purchase agreement
"probably is a hoax."
f.. On February 5, 2003, in an address to the United Nations Security
Council, Powell said: "What we're giving you are facts and conclusions
based on solid intelligence. I will cite some examples, and these are
from human sources." As it turned out, however, two of the main human
sources to which Powell referred had provided false information. One was
an Iraqi con artist, code-named "Curveball," whom American intelligence
officials were dubious about and in fact had never even spoken to. The
other was an Al Qaeda detainee, Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libi, who had reportedly
been sent to Eqypt by the CIA and tortured and who later recanted the
information he had provided. Libi told the CIA in January 2004 that he
had "decided he would fabricate any information interrogators wanted in
order to gain better treatment and avoid being handed over to [a foreign
government]."
The false statements dramatically increased in August 2002, with
congressional consideration of a war resolution, then escalated through
the mid-term elections and spiked even higher from January 2003 to the
eve of the invasion.
It was during those critical weeks in early 2003 that the president
delivered his State of the Union address and Powell delivered his
memorable U.N. presentation. For all 935 false statements, including when
and where they occurred, go to the search page for this project; the
methodology used for this analysis is explained here.
In addition to their patently false pronouncements, Bush and these seven
top officials also made hundreds of other statements in the two years
after 9/11 in which they implied that Iraq had weapons of mass
destruction or links to Al Qaeda. Other administration higher-ups, joined
by Pentagon officials and Republican leaders in Congress, also routinely
sounded false war alarms in the Washington echo chamber.
The cumulative effect of these false statements - amplified by thousands
of news stories and broadcasts - was massive, with the media coverage
creating an almost impenetrable din for several critical months in the
run-up to war. Some journalists - indeed, even some entire news
organizations - have since acknowledged that their coverage during those
prewar months was far too deferential and uncritical. These mea culpas
notwithstanding, much of the wall-to-wall media coverage provided
additional, "independent" validation of the Bush administration's false
statements about Iraq.
The "ground truth" of the Iraq war itself eventually forced the president
to backpedal, albeit grudgingly. In a 2004 appearance on NBC's Meet the
Press, for example, Bush acknowledged that no weapons of mass destruction
had been found in Iraq. And on December 18, 2005, with his approval
ratings on the decline, Bush told the nation in a Sunday-night address
from the Oval Office: "It is true that Saddam Hussein had a history of
pursuing and using weapons of mass destruction. It is true that he
systematically concealed those programs, and blocked the work of U.N.
weapons inspectors. It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had
weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to
be wrong. As your president, I am responsible for the decision to go into
Iraq. Yet it was right to remove Saddam Hussein from power."
Bush stopped short, however, of admitting error or poor judgment;
instead, his administration repeatedly attributed the stark disparity
between its prewar public statements and the actual "ground truth"
regarding the threat posed by Iraq to poor intelligence from a Who's Who
of domestic agencies.
On the other hand, a growing number of critics, including a parade of
former government officials, have publicly - and in some cases
vociferously - accused the president and his inner circle of ignoring or
distorting the available intelligence. In the end, these critics say, it
was the calculated drumbeat of false information and public
pronouncements that ultimately misled the American people and this
nation's allies on their way to war.
Bush and the top officials of his administration have so far largely
avoided the harsh, sustained glare of formal scrutiny about their
personal responsibility for the litany of repeated, false statements in
the run-up to the war in Iraq. There has been no congressional
investigation, for example, into what exactly was going on inside the
Bush White House in that period. Congressional oversight has focused
almost entirely on the quality of the U.S. government's pre-war
intelligence - not the judgment, public statements, or public
accountability of its highest officials. And, of course, only four of the
officials - Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz - have testified before
Congress about Iraq.
Short of such review, this project provides a heretofore unavailable
framework for examining how the U.S. war in Iraq came to pass. Clearly,
it calls into question the repeated assertions of Bush administration
officials that they were the unwitting victims of bad intelligence.
Above all, the 935 false statements painstakingly presented here finally
help to answer two all-too-familiar questions as they apply to Bush and
his top advisers: What did they know, and when did they know it?
--
I'm not really anti-Bush . . . I'm really just anti-stupid.
I support the right of all Americans to arm bears.
The only Bush I trust is my wife's.
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2008-08-21 22:13:40 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
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That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
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Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
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Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the same as
lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.
When you've been told the exact opposite, by your own intelligence
organizations, and then go ahead and loudly proclaim the "wrong"
information as being backed up by "undeniable evidence" that doesn't
exist, then it's a lie.
There are thousands of people in the intelligence community and there is
NEVER a complete consensus on ANYTHING. That "someone" disagreed is
propaganda bullshit that you are obviously too stupid to see through. The
man that matters is the head of the CIA and Tenet said "slam-dunk." Just
like he did in 98 when Clinton bombed over nonexistent WMDs. Are you so
stupid that you think every swinging dick at the agency at the time agreed
in 98? Some did not so that means Clinton lied, right weak-mind moron tool
of the DNC?

Damn you people are STUPID and GULLIBLE morons.
Post by Obama-Richardson in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
But please do tell us how many supposed lies democrats told us about
WMDs, you useless goddamn lying piece of fucking SHIT.
When you're spoon-fed lies by a corrupt administration, and the truth that
the administration has available isn't presented to you, then repeating
the lies is nowhere near as heinous as the original lie.
So that's why so many people said Saddam had WMDs in 98 when he didn't? The
Clinton administration was lying and corrupt? Thanks for the info, fuckwit.
Post by Obama-Richardson in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
"The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed
Iraq's illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam Hussein
did not try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by the chief
U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every prewar
assertion made by top administration officials about Iraq."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat
Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use
them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and
all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow."
-Bill Clinton - 1998
Quite probably true in 1998. No longer true in 2003.
Are you so stupid that you don't even know how to fucking READ:

"The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed Iraq's
illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam Hussein did not
try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by the chief U.S.
weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every prewar assertion
made by top administration officials about Iraq."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
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"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that
Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also
given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members,
though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible
events of September 11, 2001."
-Hillary Clinton - 2002
Yup. That's what the Bush Administration told her. And told everyone else.
No, dumbshit. That's what "intelligence reports" showed her. Just like in 98
when they were wrong.

Try READING it again, moron:

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that
Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also
given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members,
though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible
events of September 11, 2001."

-Eddie Haskell
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
The Guardian - February 6, 1999
"Saddam Hussein's regime has opened talks with Osama bin Laden, bringing
closer the threat of a terrorist attack using chemical, biological or
nuclear weapons, according to US intelligence sources and Iraqi
opposition officials."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,314700,00.html
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to
develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass
destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great
deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use
nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the
greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times
since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the
U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if
appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond
effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of
mass destruction programs."
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others,
Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and
he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons
programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition,
Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the
cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that
will threaten the United States and our allies."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction
and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is
in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to
build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence
reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the
authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein
because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in
his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have
always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of
weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years,
every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and
destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity.
This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.
He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al
Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam
Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and
chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is
real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
-Eddie Haskell
Obama-Richardson in 08
2008-08-21 22:33:31 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
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Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the same as
lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.
When you've been told the exact opposite, by your own intelligence
organizations, and then go ahead and loudly proclaim the "wrong"
information as being backed up by "undeniable evidence" that doesn't
exist, then it's a lie.
There are thousands of people in the intelligence community and there is
NEVER a complete consensus on ANYTHING. That "someone" disagreed is
propaganda bullshit that you are obviously too stupid to see through. The
man that matters is the head of the CIA and Tenet said "slam-dunk." Just
like he did in 98 when Clinton bombed over nonexistent WMDs. Are you so
stupid that you think every swinging dick at the agency at the time agreed
in 98? Some did not so that means Clinton lied, right weak-mind moron tool
of the DNC?
I don't know whether there were still WMDs in '98 or not. Saddam said that
the Clinton attack took out the last of them, which is why he couldn't
account for them . . . hard to account for what someone else blows up. I DO
know, however, that there were no CIA analysts testifying that Gore
personally went over to Langley to see to it that only the information that
supported Clinton's policies would be allowed to filter up to the DCI and
POTUS. That cannot be said for Cheney, who was over there, intimidating
analysts, on a regular basis.
--
I'm not really anti-Bush . . . I'm really just anti-stupid.
I support the right of all Americans to arm bears.
The only Bush I trust is my wife's.
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-25 15:46:59 UTC
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On Aug 20, 9:51 pm, 527_blue_collar_worker
Post by Sid9
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Sid9
Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
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Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the same as
lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.
When you've been told the exact opposite, by your own intelligence
organizations, and then go ahead and loudly proclaim the "wrong"
information as being backed up by "undeniable evidence" that doesn't
exist, then it's a lie.
There are thousands of people in the intelligence community and there is
NEVER a complete consensus on ANYTHING. That "someone" disagreed is
propaganda bullshit that you are obviously too stupid to see through. The
man that matters is the head of the CIA and Tenet said "slam-dunk." Just
like he did in 98 when Clinton bombed over nonexistent WMDs. Are you so
stupid that you think every swinging dick at the agency at the time
agreed in 98? Some did not so that means Clinton lied, right weak-mind
moron tool of the DNC?
I don't know whether there were still WMDs in '98 or not.
I do.

"The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed Iraq's
illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam Hussein did not
try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by the chief U.S.
weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every prewar assertion
made by top administration officials about Iraq."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
Post by Obama-Richardson in 08
Saddam said that the Clinton attack took out the last of them, which is
why he couldn't account for them . . . hard to account for what someone
else blows up. I DO know, however, that there were no CIA analysts
testifying that Gore personally went over to Langley to see to it that
only the information that supported Clinton's policies would be allowed to
filter up to the DCI and POTUS. That cannot be said for Cheney, who was
over there, intimidating analysts, on a regular basis.
So Cheney made Tenet say that the existence of WMDs was a "slam-dunk?" What
made him tell Clinton that Saddam had WMDs in 98 when he didn't, desperate
shit-head?

-Eddie Haskell
Obama-Biden in 08
2008-08-25 17:28:06 UTC
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On Aug 20, 9:51 pm, 527_blue_collar_worker
Post by Sid9
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Sid9
Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
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Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the same as
lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.
When you've been told the exact opposite, by your own intelligence
organizations, and then go ahead and loudly proclaim the "wrong"
information as being backed up by "undeniable evidence" that doesn't
exist, then it's a lie.
There are thousands of people in the intelligence community and there is
NEVER a complete consensus on ANYTHING. That "someone" disagreed is
propaganda bullshit that you are obviously too stupid to see through.
The man that matters is the head of the CIA and Tenet said "slam-dunk."
Just like he did in 98 when Clinton bombed over nonexistent WMDs. Are
you so stupid that you think every swinging dick at the agency at the
time agreed in 98? Some did not so that means Clinton lied, right
weak-mind moron tool of the DNC?
I don't know whether there were still WMDs in '98 or not.
I do.
"The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed
Iraq's illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam Hussein
did not try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by the chief
U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every prewar
assertion made by top administration officials about Iraq."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
So, "for the most part" he didn't try to rebuild. That doesn't mean he
couldn't have had some in 1998.

You know, you can't have it both ways, Eddie. You can't use a report that
suggests he didn't have them after 1991 to make the claim that Clinton was
wrong in thinking they existed in '98, and then ignore the report when
claiming that Bush was justified in claiming that they were still there in
2003. Make up your mind whether or not you think the WMD existed, and
if/when you think they were destroyed before trying to argue both ways.
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Obama-Richardson in 08
Saddam said that the Clinton attack took out the last of them, which is
why he couldn't account for them . . . hard to account for what someone
else blows up. I DO know, however, that there were no CIA analysts
testifying that Gore personally went over to Langley to see to it that
only the information that supported Clinton's policies would be allowed
to filter up to the DCI and POTUS. That cannot be said for Cheney, who
was over there, intimidating analysts, on a regular basis.
So Cheney made Tenet say that the existence of WMDs was a "slam-dunk?"
Not directly. The testimony before the Senate given by several CIA analysts
indicates he pressured the analysts into telling Tenet that the existence of
WMD's was a "slam-dunk". Tenet was just the messenger.
Post by Eddie Haskell
What made him tell Clinton that Saddam had WMDs in 98 when he didn't,
The intelligence available in '98 wasn't the same as it was in 2003.
Post by Eddie Haskell
desperate shit-head?
The desperation and the shit are all in YOUR head . . . not mine.
--
I'm not really anti-Bush . . . I'm really just anti-stupid.
I support the right of all Americans to arm bears.
The only Bush I trust is my wife's.
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-26 22:14:54 UTC
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On Aug 20, 9:51 pm, 527_blue_collar_worker
Post by Sid9
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Sid9
Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a
ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/?gclid=CPDukrSXn5UCFQS7sgodZzjPjw
False Pretenses - 935 Lies About Iraq
Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the same
as lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.
When you've been told the exact opposite, by your own intelligence
organizations, and then go ahead and loudly proclaim the "wrong"
information as being backed up by "undeniable evidence" that doesn't
exist, then it's a lie.
There are thousands of people in the intelligence community and there
is NEVER a complete consensus on ANYTHING. That "someone" disagreed is
propaganda bullshit that you are obviously too stupid to see through.
The man that matters is the head of the CIA and Tenet said "slam-dunk."
Just like he did in 98 when Clinton bombed over nonexistent WMDs. Are
you so stupid that you think every swinging dick at the agency at the
time agreed in 98? Some did not so that means Clinton lied, right
weak-mind moron tool of the DNC?
I don't know whether there were still WMDs in '98 or not.
I do.
"The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed
Iraq's illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam Hussein
did not try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by the chief
U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every prewar
assertion made by top administration officials about Iraq."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
So, "for the most part" he didn't try to rebuild. That doesn't mean he
couldn't have had some in 1998.
You know, you can't have it both ways, Eddie. You can't use a report that
suggests he didn't have them after 1991 to make the claim that Clinton was
wrong in thinking they existed in '98, and then ignore the report when
claiming that Bush was justified in claiming that they were still there in
2003. Make up your mind whether or not you think the WMD existed, and
if/when you think they were destroyed before trying to argue both ways.
They were both wrong, bone-head. The point is that YOU can't have it both
ways. You can't claim that Bush lied while Clinton was simply wrong.
Post by Obama-Biden in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Obama-Richardson in 08
Saddam said that the Clinton attack took out the last of them, which is
why he couldn't account for them . . . hard to account for what someone
else blows up. I DO know, however, that there were no CIA analysts
testifying that Gore personally went over to Langley to see to it that
only the information that supported Clinton's policies would be allowed
to filter up to the DCI and POTUS. That cannot be said for Cheney, who
was over there, intimidating analysts, on a regular basis.
So Cheney made Tenet say that the existence of WMDs was a "slam-dunk?"
Not directly. The testimony before the Senate given by several CIA
analysts indicates he pressured the analysts into telling Tenet that the
existence of WMD's was a "slam-dunk". Tenet was just the messenger.
Oh, bullshit. The CIA fucked-up royally and many are trying to deflect
blame.
Post by Obama-Biden in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
What made him tell Clinton that Saddam had WMDs in 98 when he didn't,
The intelligence available in '98 wasn't the same as it was in 2003.
Post by Eddie Haskell
desperate shit-head?
The desperation and the shit are all in YOUR head . . . not mine.
Wanna bet?

The Blix Report Jan 27 2003
Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few
tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable.
Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq said
that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was
unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.

UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account. There
are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and
stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared.
Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the purity
of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than declared.

There are also indications that the agent was weaponised. In addition,
there are questions to be answered concerning the fate of the VX precursor
chemicals, which Iraq states were lost during bombing in the Gulf War or
were unilaterally destroyed by Iraq.

The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the Iraqi
Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that 19,500 bombs
were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a discrepancy of 6,500
bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs would be in the order of
about 1,000 tonnes. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, we must
assume that these quantities are now unaccounted for.

The discovery of a number of 122 mm chemical rocket warheads in a bunker at
a storage depot 170 km southwest of Baghdad was much publicized. This was a
relatively new bunker and therefore the rockets must have been moved there
in the past few years, at a time when Iraq should not have had such
munitions.

There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it
declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the declared
destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be found and be
destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing evidence should be
produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in 1991.

In addition, Iraq has refurbished its missile production infrastructure. In
particular, Iraq reconstituted a number of casting chambers, which had
previously been destroyed under UNSCOM supervision. They had been used in
the production of solid-fuel missiles. Whatever missile system these
chambers are intended for, they could produce motors for missiles capable of
ranges significantly greater than 150 km.

Also associated with these missiles and related developments is the import,
which has been taking place during the last few years, of a number of items
despite the sanctions, including as late as December 2002. Foremost amongst
these is the import of 380 rocket engines which may be used for the Al
Samoud 2.

http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/Bx27.htm

Wait, don't tell me. Cheney pressured Hans Blix too, right desperate
shit-head?

Hahahahah!

-Eddie Haskell
Sid9
2008-08-26 23:10:19 UTC
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Post by Sid9
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a
ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential
candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/?gclid=CPDukrSXn5UCFQS7sgodZzjPjw
False Pretenses - 935 Lies About Iraq
Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the same
as lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.
When you've been told the exact opposite, by your own intelligence
organizations, and then go ahead and loudly proclaim the "wrong"
information as being backed up by "undeniable evidence" that doesn't
exist, then it's a lie.
There are thousands of people in the intelligence community and there
is NEVER a complete consensus on ANYTHING. That "someone" disagreed is
propaganda bullshit that you are obviously too stupid to see through.
The man that matters is the head of the CIA and Tenet said
"slam-dunk." Just like he did in 98 when Clinton bombed over
nonexistent WMDs. Are you so stupid that you think every swinging dick
at the agency at the time agreed in 98? Some did not so that means
Clinton lied, right weak-mind moron tool of the DNC?
I don't know whether there were still WMDs in '98 or not.
I do.
"The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed
Iraq's illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam Hussein
did not try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by the chief
U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every prewar
assertion made by top administration officials about Iraq."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
So, "for the most part" he didn't try to rebuild. That doesn't mean he
couldn't have had some in 1998.
You know, you can't have it both ways, Eddie. You can't use a report
that suggests he didn't have them after 1991 to make the claim that
Clinton was wrong in thinking they existed in '98, and then ignore the
report when claiming that Bush was justified in claiming that they were
still there in 2003. Make up your mind whether or not you think the WMD
existed, and if/when you think they were destroyed before trying to argue
both ways.
They were both wrong, bone-head. The point is that YOU can't have it both
ways. You can't claim that Bush lied while Clinton was simply wrong.
Post by Obama-Biden in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Obama-Richardson in 08
Saddam said that the Clinton attack took out the last of them, which is
why he couldn't account for them . . . hard to account for what someone
else blows up. I DO know, however, that there were no CIA analysts
testifying that Gore personally went over to Langley to see to it that
only the information that supported Clinton's policies would be allowed
to filter up to the DCI and POTUS. That cannot be said for Cheney, who
was over there, intimidating analysts, on a regular basis.
So Cheney made Tenet say that the existence of WMDs was a "slam-dunk?"
Not directly. The testimony before the Senate given by several CIA
analysts indicates he pressured the analysts into telling Tenet that the
existence of WMD's was a "slam-dunk". Tenet was just the messenger.
Oh, bullshit. The CIA fucked-up royally and many are trying to deflect
blame.
Post by Obama-Biden in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
What made him tell Clinton that Saddam had WMDs in 98 when he didn't,
The intelligence available in '98 wasn't the same as it was in 2003.
Post by Eddie Haskell
desperate shit-head?
The desperation and the shit are all in YOUR head . . . not mine.
Wanna bet?
The Blix Report Jan 27 2003
Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few
tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable.
Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq said
that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was
unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.
UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account. There
are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and
stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared.
Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the
purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than
declared.
There are also indications that the agent was weaponised. In addition,
there are questions to be answered concerning the fate of the VX precursor
chemicals, which Iraq states were lost during bombing in the Gulf War or
were unilaterally destroyed by Iraq.
The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the
Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that 19,500
bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a discrepancy of
6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs would be in the
order of about 1,000 tonnes. In the absence of evidence to the contrary,
we must assume that these quantities are now unaccounted for.
The discovery of a number of 122 mm chemical rocket warheads in a bunker
at a storage depot 170 km southwest of Baghdad was much publicized. This
was a relatively new bunker and therefore the rockets must have been moved
there in the past few years, at a time when Iraq should not have had such
munitions.
There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it
declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the declared
destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be found and be
destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing evidence should be
produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in 1991.
In addition, Iraq has refurbished its missile production infrastructure.
In particular, Iraq reconstituted a number of casting chambers, which had
previously been destroyed under UNSCOM supervision. They had been used in
the production of solid-fuel missiles. Whatever missile system these
chambers are intended for, they could produce motors for missiles capable
of ranges significantly greater than 150 km.
Also associated with these missiles and related developments is the
import, which has been taking place during the last few years, of a number
of items despite the sanctions, including as late as December 2002.
Foremost amongst these is the import of 380 rocket engines which may be
used for the Al Samoud 2.
http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/Bx27.htm
Wait, don't tell me. Cheney pressured Hans Blix too, right desperate
shit-head?
Hahahahah!
-Eddie Haskell
This is a dead issue.

bush,jr and Cheney lied about WMD.

Find a new subject
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2008-08-29 20:40:46 UTC
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Post by Lamont Cranston
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Post by Sid9
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in
Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does
it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had
found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a
ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential
candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/?gclid=CPDukrSXn5UCFQS7sgodZzjPjw
False Pretenses - 935 Lies About Iraq
Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the same
as lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.
When you've been told the exact opposite, by your own intelligence
organizations, and then go ahead and loudly proclaim the "wrong"
information as being backed up by "undeniable evidence" that doesn't
exist, then it's a lie.
There are thousands of people in the intelligence community and there
is NEVER a complete consensus on ANYTHING. That "someone" disagreed
is propaganda bullshit that you are obviously too stupid to see
through. The man that matters is the head of the CIA and Tenet said
"slam-dunk." Just like he did in 98 when Clinton bombed over
nonexistent WMDs. Are you so stupid that you think every swinging
dick at the agency at the time agreed in 98? Some did not so that
means Clinton lied, right weak-mind moron tool of the DNC?
I don't know whether there were still WMDs in '98 or not.
I do.
"The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed
Iraq's illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam
Hussein did not try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by
the chief U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every
prewar assertion made by top administration officials about Iraq."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
So, "for the most part" he didn't try to rebuild. That doesn't mean he
couldn't have had some in 1998.
You know, you can't have it both ways, Eddie. You can't use a report
that suggests he didn't have them after 1991 to make the claim that
Clinton was wrong in thinking they existed in '98, and then ignore the
report when claiming that Bush was justified in claiming that they were
still there in 2003. Make up your mind whether or not you think the WMD
existed, and if/when you think they were destroyed before trying to
argue both ways.
They were both wrong, bone-head. The point is that YOU can't have it both
ways. You can't claim that Bush lied while Clinton was simply wrong.
Post by Obama-Biden in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Obama-Richardson in 08
Saddam said that the Clinton attack took out the last of them, which
is why he couldn't account for them . . . hard to account for what
someone else blows up. I DO know, however, that there were no CIA
analysts testifying that Gore personally went over to Langley to see
to it that only the information that supported Clinton's policies
would be allowed to filter up to the DCI and POTUS. That cannot be
said for Cheney, who was over there, intimidating analysts, on a
regular basis.
So Cheney made Tenet say that the existence of WMDs was a "slam-dunk?"
Not directly. The testimony before the Senate given by several CIA
analysts indicates he pressured the analysts into telling Tenet that the
existence of WMD's was a "slam-dunk". Tenet was just the messenger.
Oh, bullshit. The CIA fucked-up royally and many are trying to deflect
blame.
Post by Obama-Biden in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
What made him tell Clinton that Saddam had WMDs in 98 when he didn't,
The intelligence available in '98 wasn't the same as it was in 2003.
Post by Eddie Haskell
desperate shit-head?
The desperation and the shit are all in YOUR head . . . not mine.
Wanna bet?
The Blix Report Jan 27 2003
Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few
tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable.
Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq
said that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was
unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.
UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account. There
are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and
stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared.
Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the
purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than
declared.
There are also indications that the agent was weaponised. In addition,
there are questions to be answered concerning the fate of the VX
precursor chemicals, which Iraq states were lost during bombing in the
Gulf War or were unilaterally destroyed by Iraq.
The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the
Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that
19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a
discrepancy of 6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs
would be in the order of about 1,000 tonnes. In the absence of evidence
to the contrary, we must assume that these quantities are now unaccounted
for.
The discovery of a number of 122 mm chemical rocket warheads in a bunker
at a storage depot 170 km southwest of Baghdad was much publicized. This
was a relatively new bunker and therefore the rockets must have been
moved there in the past few years, at a time when Iraq should not have
had such munitions.
There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it
declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the declared
destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be found and
be destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing evidence should
be produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in 1991.
In addition, Iraq has refurbished its missile production infrastructure.
In particular, Iraq reconstituted a number of casting chambers, which had
previously been destroyed under UNSCOM supervision. They had been used
in the production of solid-fuel missiles. Whatever missile system these
chambers are intended for, they could produce motors for missiles capable
of ranges significantly greater than 150 km.
Also associated with these missiles and related developments is the
import, which has been taking place during the last few years, of a
number of items despite the sanctions, including as late as December
2002. Foremost amongst these is the import of 380 rocket engines which
may be used for the Al Samoud 2.
http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/Bx27.htm
Wait, don't tell me. Cheney pressured Hans Blix too, right desperate
shit-head?
Hahahahah!
-Eddie Haskell
This is a dead issue.
bush,jr and Cheney lied about WMD.
Find a new subject
Okay. You're an immoral liar.

How's that for a subject, Sid?
Post by Sid9
The Blix Report Jan 27 2003
Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few
tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable.
Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq said
that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was
unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.
UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account. There
are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and
stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared.
Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the
purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than
declared.
There are also indications that the agent was weaponised. In addition,
there are questions to be answered concerning the fate of the VX precursor
chemicals, which Iraq states were lost during bombing in the Gulf War or
were unilaterally destroyed by Iraq.
The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the
Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that 19,500
bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a discrepancy of
6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs would be in the
order of about 1,000 tonnes. In the absence of evidence to the contrary,
we must assume that these quantities are now unaccounted for.
The discovery of a number of 122 mm chemical rocket warheads in a bunker
at a storage depot 170 km southwest of Baghdad was much publicized. This
was a relatively new bunker and therefore the rockets must have been moved
there in the past few years, at a time when Iraq should not have had such
munitions.
There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it
declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the declared
destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be found and be
destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing evidence should be
produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in 1991.
In addition, Iraq has refurbished its missile production infrastructure.
In particular, Iraq reconstituted a number of casting chambers, which had
previously been destroyed under UNSCOM supervision. They had been used in
the production of solid-fuel missiles. Whatever missile system these
chambers are intended for, they could produce motors for missiles capable
of ranges significantly greater than 150 km.
Also associated with these missiles and related developments is the
import, which has been taking place during the last few years, of a number
of items despite the sanctions, including as late as December 2002.
Foremost amongst these is the import of 380 rocket engines which may be
used for the Al Samoud 2.
http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/Bx27.htm
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2008-08-29 20:42:32 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does
it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your
brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had
found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a
ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential
candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his
life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not
listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call
people that
beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/?gclid=CPDukrSXn5UCFQS7sgodZzjPjw
False Pretenses - 935 Lies About Iraq
Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the
same as lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.
When you've been told the exact opposite, by your own intelligence
organizations, and then go ahead and loudly proclaim the "wrong"
information as being backed up by "undeniable evidence" that
doesn't exist, then it's a lie.
There are thousands of people in the intelligence community and
there is NEVER a complete consensus on ANYTHING. That "someone"
disagreed is propaganda bullshit that you are obviously too stupid
to see through. The man that matters is the head of the CIA and
Tenet said "slam-dunk." Just like he did in 98 when Clinton bombed
over nonexistent WMDs. Are you so stupid that you think every
swinging dick at the agency at the time agreed in 98? Some did not
so that means Clinton lied, right weak-mind moron tool of the DNC?
I don't know whether there were still WMDs in '98 or not.
I do.
"The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed
Iraq's illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam
Hussein did not try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by
the chief U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every
prewar assertion made by top administration officials about Iraq."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
So, "for the most part" he didn't try to rebuild. That doesn't mean he
couldn't have had some in 1998.
You know, you can't have it both ways, Eddie. You can't use a report
that suggests he didn't have them after 1991 to make the claim that
Clinton was wrong in thinking they existed in '98, and then ignore the
report when claiming that Bush was justified in claiming that they were
still there in 2003. Make up your mind whether or not you think the
WMD existed, and if/when you think they were destroyed before trying to
argue both ways.
They were both wrong, bone-head. The point is that YOU can't have it
both ways. You can't claim that Bush lied while Clinton was simply
wrong.
Post by Obama-Biden in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Obama-Richardson in 08
Saddam said that the Clinton attack took out the last of them, which
is why he couldn't account for them . . . hard to account for what
someone else blows up. I DO know, however, that there were no CIA
analysts testifying that Gore personally went over to Langley to see
to it that only the information that supported Clinton's policies
would be allowed to filter up to the DCI and POTUS. That cannot be
said for Cheney, who was over there, intimidating analysts, on a
regular basis.
So Cheney made Tenet say that the existence of WMDs was a "slam-dunk?"
Not directly. The testimony before the Senate given by several CIA
analysts indicates he pressured the analysts into telling Tenet that
the existence of WMD's was a "slam-dunk". Tenet was just the
messenger.
Oh, bullshit. The CIA fucked-up royally and many are trying to deflect
blame.
Post by Obama-Biden in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
What made him tell Clinton that Saddam had WMDs in 98 when he didn't,
The intelligence available in '98 wasn't the same as it was in 2003.
Post by Eddie Haskell
desperate shit-head?
The desperation and the shit are all in YOUR head . . . not mine.
Wanna bet?
The Blix Report Jan 27 2003
Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few
tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable.
Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq
said that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was
unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.
UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account.
There are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and
stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared.
Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the
purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than
declared.
There are also indications that the agent was weaponised. In addition,
there are questions to be answered concerning the fate of the VX
precursor chemicals, which Iraq states were lost during bombing in the
Gulf War or were unilaterally destroyed by Iraq.
The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the
Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that
19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a
discrepancy of 6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs
would be in the order of about 1,000 tonnes. In the absence of evidence
to the contrary, we must assume that these quantities are now
unaccounted for.
The discovery of a number of 122 mm chemical rocket warheads in a bunker
at a storage depot 170 km southwest of Baghdad was much publicized.
This was a relatively new bunker and therefore the rockets must have
been moved there in the past few years, at a time when Iraq should not
have had such munitions.
There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it
declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the declared
destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be found and
be destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing evidence
should be produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in 1991.
In addition, Iraq has refurbished its missile production infrastructure.
In particular, Iraq reconstituted a number of casting chambers, which
had previously been destroyed under UNSCOM supervision. They had been
used in the production of solid-fuel missiles. Whatever missile system
these chambers are intended for, they could produce motors for missiles
capable of ranges significantly greater than 150 km.
Also associated with these missiles and related developments is the
import, which has been taking place during the last few years, of a
number of items despite the sanctions, including as late as December
2002. Foremost amongst these is the import of 380 rocket engines which
may be used for the Al Samoud 2.
http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/Bx27.htm
Wait, don't tell me. Cheney pressured Hans Blix too, right desperate
shit-head?
Hahahahah!
-Eddie Haskell
This is a dead issue.
bush,jr and Cheney lied about WMD.
Find a new subject
Okay. You're an immoral liar.
How's that for a subject, Sid?
Post by Sid9
The Blix Report Jan 27 2003
Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few
tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable.
Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq
said that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was
unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.
UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account. There
are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and
stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared.
Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the
purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than
declared.
There are also indications that the agent was weaponised. In addition,
there are questions to be answered concerning the fate of the VX
precursor chemicals, which Iraq states were lost during bombing in the
Gulf War or were unilaterally destroyed by Iraq.
The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the
Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that
19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a
discrepancy of 6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs
would be in the order of about 1,000 tonnes. In the absence of evidence
to the contrary, we must assume that these quantities are now unaccounted
for.
The discovery of a number of 122 mm chemical rocket warheads in a bunker
at a storage depot 170 km southwest of Baghdad was much publicized. This
was a relatively new bunker and therefore the rockets must have been
moved there in the past few years, at a time when Iraq should not have
had such munitions.
There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it
declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the declared
destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be found and
be destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing evidence should
be produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in 1991.
In addition, Iraq has refurbished its missile production infrastructure.
In particular, Iraq reconstituted a number of casting chambers, which had
previously been destroyed under UNSCOM supervision. They had been used
in the production of solid-fuel missiles. Whatever missile system these
chambers are intended for, they could produce motors for missiles capable
of ranges significantly greater than 150 km.
Also associated with these missiles and related developments is the
import, which has been taking place during the last few years, of a
number of items despite the sanctions, including as late as December
2002. Foremost amongst these is the import of 380 rocket engines which
may be used for the Al Samoud 2.
http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/Bx27.htm
This is still a dead issue.

bush,jr and Cheney lied about WMD.

Find a new subject.

I hope McCain is asked about it on Sept 27
Eddie Haskell
2008-09-02 14:43:18 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does
it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your
brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had
found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a
ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential
candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his
life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not
listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call
people that
beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/?gclid=CPDukrSXn5UCFQS7sgodZzjPjw
False Pretenses - 935 Lies About Iraq
Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the
same as lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.
When you've been told the exact opposite, by your own intelligence
organizations, and then go ahead and loudly proclaim the "wrong"
information as being backed up by "undeniable evidence" that
doesn't exist, then it's a lie.
There are thousands of people in the intelligence community and
there is NEVER a complete consensus on ANYTHING. That "someone"
disagreed is propaganda bullshit that you are obviously too stupid
to see through. The man that matters is the head of the CIA and
Tenet said "slam-dunk." Just like he did in 98 when Clinton bombed
over nonexistent WMDs. Are you so stupid that you think every
swinging dick at the agency at the time agreed in 98? Some did not
so that means Clinton lied, right weak-mind moron tool of the DNC?
I don't know whether there were still WMDs in '98 or not.
I do.
"The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed
Iraq's illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam
Hussein did not try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report
by the chief U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly
every prewar assertion made by top administration officials about
Iraq."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
So, "for the most part" he didn't try to rebuild. That doesn't mean
he couldn't have had some in 1998.
You know, you can't have it both ways, Eddie. You can't use a report
that suggests he didn't have them after 1991 to make the claim that
Clinton was wrong in thinking they existed in '98, and then ignore the
report when claiming that Bush was justified in claiming that they
were still there in 2003. Make up your mind whether or not you think
the WMD existed, and if/when you think they were destroyed before
trying to argue both ways.
They were both wrong, bone-head. The point is that YOU can't have it
both ways. You can't claim that Bush lied while Clinton was simply
wrong.
Post by Obama-Biden in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Obama-Richardson in 08
Saddam said that the Clinton attack took out the last of them, which
is why he couldn't account for them . . . hard to account for what
someone else blows up. I DO know, however, that there were no CIA
analysts testifying that Gore personally went over to Langley to see
to it that only the information that supported Clinton's policies
would be allowed to filter up to the DCI and POTUS. That cannot be
said for Cheney, who was over there, intimidating analysts, on a
regular basis.
So Cheney made Tenet say that the existence of WMDs was a
"slam-dunk?"
Not directly. The testimony before the Senate given by several CIA
analysts indicates he pressured the analysts into telling Tenet that
the existence of WMD's was a "slam-dunk". Tenet was just the
messenger.
Oh, bullshit. The CIA fucked-up royally and many are trying to deflect
blame.
Post by Obama-Biden in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
What made him tell Clinton that Saddam had WMDs in 98 when he didn't,
The intelligence available in '98 wasn't the same as it was in 2003.
Post by Eddie Haskell
desperate shit-head?
The desperation and the shit are all in YOUR head . . . not mine.
Wanna bet?
The Blix Report Jan 27 2003
Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few
tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable.
Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq
said that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was
unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.
UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account.
There are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and
stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared.
Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the
purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than
declared.
There are also indications that the agent was weaponised. In addition,
there are questions to be answered concerning the fate of the VX
precursor chemicals, which Iraq states were lost during bombing in the
Gulf War or were unilaterally destroyed by Iraq.
The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the
Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that
19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a
discrepancy of 6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these
bombs would be in the order of about 1,000 tonnes. In the absence of
evidence to the contrary, we must assume that these quantities are now
unaccounted for.
The discovery of a number of 122 mm chemical rocket warheads in a
bunker at a storage depot 170 km southwest of Baghdad was much
publicized. This was a relatively new bunker and therefore the rockets
must have been moved there in the past few years, at a time when Iraq
should not have had such munitions.
There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it
declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the
declared destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be
found and be destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing
evidence should be produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in
1991.
In addition, Iraq has refurbished its missile production
infrastructure. In particular, Iraq reconstituted a number of casting
chambers, which had previously been destroyed under UNSCOM supervision.
They had been used in the production of solid-fuel missiles. Whatever
missile system these chambers are intended for, they could produce
motors for missiles capable of ranges significantly greater than 150
km.
Also associated with these missiles and related developments is the
import, which has been taking place during the last few years, of a
number of items despite the sanctions, including as late as December
2002. Foremost amongst these is the import of 380 rocket engines which
may be used for the Al Samoud 2.
http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/Bx27.htm
Wait, don't tell me. Cheney pressured Hans Blix too, right desperate
shit-head?
Hahahahah!
-Eddie Haskell
This is a dead issue.
bush,jr and Cheney lied about WMD.
Find a new subject
Okay. You're an immoral liar.
How's that for a subject, Sid?
Post by Sid9
The Blix Report Jan 27 2003
Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few
tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable.
Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq
said that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was
unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.
UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account.
There are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and
stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared.
Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the
purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than
declared.
There are also indications that the agent was weaponised. In addition,
there are questions to be answered concerning the fate of the VX
precursor chemicals, which Iraq states were lost during bombing in the
Gulf War or were unilaterally destroyed by Iraq.
The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the
Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that
19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a
discrepancy of 6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs
would be in the order of about 1,000 tonnes. In the absence of evidence
to the contrary, we must assume that these quantities are now
unaccounted for.
The discovery of a number of 122 mm chemical rocket warheads in a bunker
at a storage depot 170 km southwest of Baghdad was much publicized.
This was a relatively new bunker and therefore the rockets must have
been moved there in the past few years, at a time when Iraq should not
have had such munitions.
There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it
declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the declared
destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be found and
be destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing evidence
should be produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in 1991.
In addition, Iraq has refurbished its missile production infrastructure.
In particular, Iraq reconstituted a number of casting chambers, which
had previously been destroyed under UNSCOM supervision. They had been
used in the production of solid-fuel missiles. Whatever missile system
these chambers are intended for, they could produce motors for missiles
capable of ranges significantly greater than 150 km.
Also associated with these missiles and related developments is the
import, which has been taking place during the last few years, of a
number of items despite the sanctions, including as late as December
2002. Foremost amongst these is the import of 380 rocket engines which
may be used for the Al Samoud 2.
http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/Bx27.htm
This is still a dead issue.
bush,jr and Cheney lied about WMD.
Find a new subject.
I just posted PROOF that you are LYING, Sid, you immoral piece of fucking
shit.

Goddamn brain-dead ancient artifact fuckwit..

-Eddie Haskell
Sid9
2008-09-02 19:33:07 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Obama-Richardson in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
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On Aug 20, 9:51 pm, 527_blue_collar_worker
Post by Sid9
wrote in
wrote in
Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does
it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your
brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had
found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a
ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential
candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his
life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts,
and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not
listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call
people that
beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/?gclid=CPDukrSXn5UCFQS7sgodZzjPjw
False Pretenses - 935 Lies About Iraq
Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the
same as lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.
When you've been told the exact opposite, by your own
intelligence organizations, and then go ahead and loudly proclaim
the "wrong" information as being backed up by "undeniable
evidence" that doesn't exist, then it's a lie.
There are thousands of people in the intelligence community and
there is NEVER a complete consensus on ANYTHING. That "someone"
disagreed is propaganda bullshit that you are obviously too stupid
to see through. The man that matters is the head of the CIA and
Tenet said "slam-dunk." Just like he did in 98 when Clinton bombed
over nonexistent WMDs. Are you so stupid that you think every
swinging dick at the agency at the time agreed in 98? Some did not
so that means Clinton lied, right weak-mind moron tool of the DNC?
I don't know whether there were still WMDs in '98 or not.
I do.
"The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed
Iraq's illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam
Hussein did not try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report
by the chief U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly
every prewar assertion made by top administration officials about
Iraq."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
So, "for the most part" he didn't try to rebuild. That doesn't mean
he couldn't have had some in 1998.
You know, you can't have it both ways, Eddie. You can't use a report
that suggests he didn't have them after 1991 to make the claim that
Clinton was wrong in thinking they existed in '98, and then ignore
the report when claiming that Bush was justified in claiming that
they were still there in 2003. Make up your mind whether or not you
think the WMD existed, and if/when you think they were destroyed
before trying to argue both ways.
They were both wrong, bone-head. The point is that YOU can't have it
both ways. You can't claim that Bush lied while Clinton was simply
wrong.
Post by Obama-Biden in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Obama-Richardson in 08
Saddam said that the Clinton attack took out the last of them,
which is why he couldn't account for them . . . hard to account for
what someone else blows up. I DO know, however, that there were no
CIA analysts testifying that Gore personally went over to Langley
to see to it that only the information that supported Clinton's
policies would be allowed to filter up to the DCI and POTUS. That
cannot be said for Cheney, who was over there, intimidating
analysts, on a regular basis.
So Cheney made Tenet say that the existence of WMDs was a "slam-dunk?"
Not directly. The testimony before the Senate given by several CIA
analysts indicates he pressured the analysts into telling Tenet that
the existence of WMD's was a "slam-dunk". Tenet was just the
messenger.
Oh, bullshit. The CIA fucked-up royally and many are trying to deflect
blame.
Post by Obama-Biden in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
What made him tell Clinton that Saddam had WMDs in 98 when he didn't,
The intelligence available in '98 wasn't the same as it was in 2003.
Post by Eddie Haskell
desperate shit-head?
The desperation and the shit are all in YOUR head . . . not mine.
Wanna bet?
The Blix Report Jan 27 2003
Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a
few tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable.
Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq
said that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was
unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.
UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account.
There are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity
and stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been
declared. Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates
that the purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was
higher than declared.
There are also indications that the agent was weaponised. In
addition, there are questions to be answered concerning the fate of
the VX precursor chemicals, which Iraq states were lost during bombing
in the Gulf War or were unilaterally destroyed by Iraq.
The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the
Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that
19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a
discrepancy of 6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these
bombs would be in the order of about 1,000 tonnes. In the absence of
evidence to the contrary, we must assume that these quantities are now
unaccounted for.
The discovery of a number of 122 mm chemical rocket warheads in a
bunker at a storage depot 170 km southwest of Baghdad was much
publicized. This was a relatively new bunker and therefore the rockets
must have been moved there in the past few years, at a time when Iraq
should not have had such munitions.
There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it
declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the
declared destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be
found and be destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing
evidence should be produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in
1991.
In addition, Iraq has refurbished its missile production
infrastructure. In particular, Iraq reconstituted a number of casting
chambers, which had previously been destroyed under UNSCOM
supervision. They had been used in the production of solid-fuel
missiles. Whatever missile system these chambers are intended for,
they could produce motors for missiles capable of ranges significantly
greater than 150 km.
Also associated with these missiles and related developments is the
import, which has been taking place during the last few years, of a
number of items despite the sanctions, including as late as December
2002. Foremost amongst these is the import of 380 rocket engines which
may be used for the Al Samoud 2.
http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/Bx27.htm
Wait, don't tell me. Cheney pressured Hans Blix too, right desperate
shit-head?
Hahahahah!
-Eddie Haskell
This is a dead issue.
bush,jr and Cheney lied about WMD.
Find a new subject
Okay. You're an immoral liar.
How's that for a subject, Sid?
Post by Sid9
The Blix Report Jan 27 2003
Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few
tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable.
Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq
said that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was
unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.
UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account.
There are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and
stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared.
Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the
purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than
declared.
There are also indications that the agent was weaponised. In addition,
there are questions to be answered concerning the fate of the VX
precursor chemicals, which Iraq states were lost during bombing in the
Gulf War or were unilaterally destroyed by Iraq.
The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the
Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that
19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a
discrepancy of 6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these
bombs would be in the order of about 1,000 tonnes. In the absence of
evidence to the contrary, we must assume that these quantities are now
unaccounted for.
The discovery of a number of 122 mm chemical rocket warheads in a
bunker at a storage depot 170 km southwest of Baghdad was much
publicized. This was a relatively new bunker and therefore the rockets
must have been moved there in the past few years, at a time when Iraq
should not have had such munitions.
There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it
declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the
declared destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be
found and be destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing
evidence should be produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in
1991.
In addition, Iraq has refurbished its missile production
infrastructure. In particular, Iraq reconstituted a number of casting
chambers, which had previously been destroyed under UNSCOM supervision.
They had been used in the production of solid-fuel missiles. Whatever
missile system these chambers are intended for, they could produce
motors for missiles capable of ranges significantly greater than 150
km.
Also associated with these missiles and related developments is the
import, which has been taking place during the last few years, of a
number of items despite the sanctions, including as late as December
2002. Foremost amongst these is the import of 380 rocket engines which
may be used for the Al Samoud 2.
http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/Bx27.htm
This is still a dead issue.
bush,jr and Cheney lied about WMD.
Find a new subject.
I just posted PROOF that you are LYING, Sid, you immoral piece of fucking
shit.
Goddamn brain-dead ancient artifact fuckwit..
-Eddie Haskell
It's always a pleasure
to hear from you.

Keep up the good
work representing
your causes!

Obama-Biden in 08
2008-08-27 01:18:47 UTC
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Post by Obama-Biden in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Obama-Richardson in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Obama-Richardson in 08
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Lamont Cranston
On Aug 20, 9:51 pm, 527_blue_collar_worker
Post by Sid9
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Sid9
Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a
ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential
candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/?gclid=CPDukrSXn5UCFQS7sgodZzjPjw
False Pretenses - 935 Lies About Iraq
Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the same
as lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.
When you've been told the exact opposite, by your own intelligence
organizations, and then go ahead and loudly proclaim the "wrong"
information as being backed up by "undeniable evidence" that doesn't
exist, then it's a lie.
There are thousands of people in the intelligence community and there
is NEVER a complete consensus on ANYTHING. That "someone" disagreed is
propaganda bullshit that you are obviously too stupid to see through.
The man that matters is the head of the CIA and Tenet said
"slam-dunk." Just like he did in 98 when Clinton bombed over
nonexistent WMDs. Are you so stupid that you think every swinging dick
at the agency at the time agreed in 98? Some did not so that means
Clinton lied, right weak-mind moron tool of the DNC?
I don't know whether there were still WMDs in '98 or not.
I do.
"The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed
Iraq's illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam Hussein
did not try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by the chief
U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every prewar
assertion made by top administration officials about Iraq."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
So, "for the most part" he didn't try to rebuild. That doesn't mean he
couldn't have had some in 1998.
You know, you can't have it both ways, Eddie. You can't use a report
that suggests he didn't have them after 1991 to make the claim that
Clinton was wrong in thinking they existed in '98, and then ignore the
report when claiming that Bush was justified in claiming that they were
still there in 2003. Make up your mind whether or not you think the WMD
existed, and if/when you think they were destroyed before trying to argue
both ways.
They were both wrong, bone-head. The point is that YOU can't have it both
ways. You can't claim that Bush lied while Clinton was simply wrong.
Oh, I certainly CAN have it both ways, because there's five years between
Clinton's statement and Bush's unwarranted invasion. WMD didn't just create
themselves over time . . . especially while our spy satellites were watching
every truck and railroad car that went anywhere in the country. But they
DID degrade, and many were tagged and destroyed by the inspectors. So it's
certainly quite possible . . . even quite likely . . . that there were still
some there in 1998 that were no longer there, or no longer qualified as
"weapons" due to degradation, in 2003.
--
I'm not really anti-Bush . . . I'm really just anti-stupid.
I support the right of all Americans to arm bears.
The only Bush I trust is my wife's.
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-28 21:37:39 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does
it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had
found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a
ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential
candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
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That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
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Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/?gclid=CPDukrSXn5UCFQS7sgodZzjPjw
False Pretenses - 935 Lies About Iraq
Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the same
as lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.
When you've been told the exact opposite, by your own intelligence
organizations, and then go ahead and loudly proclaim the "wrong"
information as being backed up by "undeniable evidence" that doesn't
exist, then it's a lie.
There are thousands of people in the intelligence community and there
is NEVER a complete consensus on ANYTHING. That "someone" disagreed
is propaganda bullshit that you are obviously too stupid to see
through. The man that matters is the head of the CIA and Tenet said
"slam-dunk." Just like he did in 98 when Clinton bombed over
nonexistent WMDs. Are you so stupid that you think every swinging
dick at the agency at the time agreed in 98? Some did not so that
means Clinton lied, right weak-mind moron tool of the DNC?
I don't know whether there were still WMDs in '98 or not.
I do.
"The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed
Iraq's illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam
Hussein did not try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by
the chief U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every
prewar assertion made by top administration officials about Iraq."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
So, "for the most part" he didn't try to rebuild. That doesn't mean he
couldn't have had some in 1998.
You know, you can't have it both ways, Eddie. You can't use a report
that suggests he didn't have them after 1991 to make the claim that
Clinton was wrong in thinking they existed in '98, and then ignore the
report when claiming that Bush was justified in claiming that they were
still there in 2003. Make up your mind whether or not you think the WMD
existed, and if/when you think they were destroyed before trying to
argue both ways.
They were both wrong, bone-head. The point is that YOU can't have it both
ways. You can't claim that Bush lied while Clinton was simply wrong.
Oh, I certainly CAN have it both ways, because there's five years between
Clinton's statement and Bush's unwarranted invasion. WMD didn't just
create themselves over time . . . especially while our spy satellites were
watching every truck and railroad car that went anywhere in the country.
But they DID degrade, and many were tagged and destroyed by the
inspectors. So it's certainly quite possible . . . even quite likely . .
. that there were still some there in 1998
No it's not. There were no WMDs in 98. Get that fact through you head.

"The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed
Iraq's illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam Hussein
did not try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by the chief
U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every prewar
assertion made by top administration officials about Iraq."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
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that were no longer there, or no longer qualified as "weapons" due to
degradation, in 2003.
John R. Carroll
2008-08-21 22:34:25 UTC
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Post by Sid9
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Post by Sid9
Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
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Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
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- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not
listened to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to
call people that beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/?gclid=CPDukrSXn5UCFQS7sgodZzjPjw
False Pretenses - 935 Lies About Iraq
Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the same
as lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.
When you've been told the exact opposite, by your own intelligence
organizations, and then go ahead and loudly proclaim the "wrong"
information as being backed up by "undeniable evidence" that doesn't
exist, then it's a lie.
There are thousands of people in the intelligence community and there
is NEVER a complete consensus on ANYTHING.
McCain has cancer Flannigan.
There is a concensus on that.
No wonder he talks about the "Death Tax".
--
John R. Carroll
www.machiningsolution.com
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-25 15:49:56 UTC
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Post by Sid9
Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it?
And what about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's
keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found
George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle
town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's
half- brothers, spoke for the first time about his life,
which could not be more different than that of the
Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
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Post by Obama-Richardson in 08
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Post by Sid9
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Post by Sid9
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and
apparently that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
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- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not
listened to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to
call people that beat them, liars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep. But they can't help it, look at their leaders.
projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/?gclid=CPDukrSXn5UCFQS7sgodZzjPjw
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Go fuck yourself, Crankston. Being wrong about WMDs is not the same
as lying, you shameless lying cocksucker.
When you've been told the exact opposite, by your own intelligence
organizations, and then go ahead and loudly proclaim the "wrong"
information as being backed up by "undeniable evidence" that doesn't
exist, then it's a lie.
There are thousands of people in the intelligence community and there
is NEVER a complete consensus on ANYTHING.
McCain has cancer Flannigan.
There is a concensus on that.
No wonder he talks about the "Death Tax".
You just never stop lying like a democrat, do you Carol?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/29/mccain-biopsy-shows-no-ca_n_115737.html

-Eddie Haskell
Obama-Richardson in 08
2008-08-21 03:27:50 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.

==============================

Now THAT'S funny! You're nothing but a pathetic, lying pussbag. The only
thing you ever beat is your own meat.
--
I'm not really anti-Bush . . . I'm really just anti-stupid.
I support the right of all Americans to arm bears.
The only Bush I trust is my wife's.
Don Gabacho
2008-08-21 04:35:34 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie.  Not only a lie, but a damned lie.  I have not listened
to Rush L. in months.  That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.
==============================
Now THAT'S funny!  You're nothing but a pathetic, lying pussbag.  The only
thing you ever beat is your own meat.
From whom did you learn such foul language?
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-21 16:08:29 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.
==============================
Now THAT'S funny! You're nothing but a pathetic, lying pussbag. The only
thing you ever beat is your own meat.
From whom did you learn such foul language?
His mom when he was banging her.

-Eddie Haskell
Obama-Richardson in 08
2008-08-21 19:55:18 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.
==============================
Now THAT'S funny! You're nothing but a pathetic, lying pussbag. The only
thing you ever beat is your own meat.
From whom did you learn such foul language?
It's a natural byproduct of reading the rants of conservatives in these
newsgroups. Actually, that's quite mild compared to the average
conservative's posts.
--
I'm not really anti-Bush . . . I'm really just anti-stupid.
I support the right of all Americans to arm bears.
The only Bush I trust is my wife's.
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-21 22:14:44 UTC
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Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.
==============================
Now THAT'S funny! You're nothing but a pathetic, lying pussbag. The only
thing you ever beat is your own meat.
From whom did you learn such foul language?
It's a natural byproduct of reading the rants of conservatives in these
newsgroups. Actually, that's quite mild compared to the average
conservative's posts.
No the goddamned fuck it's not!

-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-21 16:07:34 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.
==============================
Now THAT'S funny! You're nothing but a pathetic, lying pussbag. The only
thing you ever beat is your own meat.
You got that shit from Air America..

-Eddie Haskell
Obama-Richardson in 08
2008-08-21 20:18:58 UTC
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Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.
==============================
Now THAT'S funny! You're nothing but a pathetic, lying pussbag. The
only thing you ever beat is your own meat.
You got that shit from Air America..
Hardly. I can't get Air America here. The 5 KW station that carries it in
my city get jammed out of existence (unless you're within about a mile of
their transmitter) by the 50 KW station that carries Limbaugh and Hannity,
even though they're not even close to each other in frequency. Complaints
have been filed with the FCC, but like everything else in the Bush
Administration, they're ruled by their politics and haven't done anything to
correct the problem.

No, I got that shit from reading 527's demented ravings.
--
I'm not really anti-Bush . . . I'm really just anti-stupid.
I support the right of all Americans to arm bears.
The only Bush I trust is my wife's.
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-21 22:17:29 UTC
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Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.
==============================
Now THAT'S funny! You're nothing but a pathetic, lying pussbag. The
only thing you ever beat is your own meat.
You got that shit from Air America..
Hardly. I can't get Air America here. The 5 KW station that carries it
in my city get jammed out of existence (unless you're within about a mile
of their transmitter) by the 50 KW station that carries Limbaugh and
Hannity, even though they're not even close to each other in frequency.
Complaints have been filed with the FCC, but like everything else in the
Bush Administration, they're ruled by their politics and haven't done
anything to correct the problem.
Yeah, they've been ranting about that on Air America.

That's how you knew about it..

-Eddie Haskell
Obama-Richardson in 08
2008-08-21 22:34:58 UTC
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Post by Sid9
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Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.
==============================
Now THAT'S funny! You're nothing but a pathetic, lying pussbag. The
only thing you ever beat is your own meat.
You got that shit from Air America..
Hardly. I can't get Air America here. The 5 KW station that carries it
in my city get jammed out of existence (unless you're within about a mile
of their transmitter) by the 50 KW station that carries Limbaugh and
Hannity, even though they're not even close to each other in frequency.
Complaints have been filed with the FCC, but like everything else in the
Bush Administration, they're ruled by their politics and haven't done
anything to correct the problem.
Yeah, they've been ranting about that on Air America.
That's how you knew about it..
Do you have any idea just how dumb you make yourself look?
--
I'm not really anti-Bush . . . I'm really just anti-stupid.
I support the right of all Americans to arm bears.
The only Bush I trust is my wife's.
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-25 15:51:19 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
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That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.
==============================
Now THAT'S funny! You're nothing but a pathetic, lying pussbag. The
only thing you ever beat is your own meat.
You got that shit from Air America..
Hardly. I can't get Air America here. The 5 KW station that carries it
in my city get jammed out of existence (unless you're within about a
mile of their transmitter) by the 50 KW station that carries Limbaugh
and Hannity, even though they're not even close to each other in
frequency. Complaints have been filed with the FCC, but like everything
else in the Bush Administration, they're ruled by their politics and
haven't done anything to correct the problem.
Yeah, they've been ranting about that on Air America.
That's how you knew about it..
Do you have any idea just how dumb you make yourself look?
When did Air America tell you to say that?

-Eddie Haskell
Obama-Biden in 08
2008-08-25 17:20:07 UTC
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Post by Sid9
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Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.
==============================
Now THAT'S funny! You're nothing but a pathetic, lying pussbag. The
only thing you ever beat is your own meat.
You got that shit from Air America..
Hardly. I can't get Air America here. The 5 KW station that carries
it in my city get jammed out of existence (unless you're within about a
mile of their transmitter) by the 50 KW station that carries Limbaugh
and Hannity, even though they're not even close to each other in
frequency. Complaints have been filed with the FCC, but like everything
else in the Bush Administration, they're ruled by their politics and
haven't done anything to correct the problem.
Yeah, they've been ranting about that on Air America.
That's how you knew about it..
Do you have any idea just how dumb you make yourself look?
When did Air America tell you to say that?
Can't answer the question? Why am I not surprised?
--
I'm not really anti-Bush . . . I'm really just anti-stupid.
I support the right of all Americans to arm bears.
The only Bush I trust is my wife's.
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-28 21:39:23 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
Post by Sid9
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of
Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could
not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.
==============================
Now THAT'S funny! You're nothing but a pathetic, lying pussbag.
The only thing you ever beat is your own meat.
You got that shit from Air America..
Hardly. I can't get Air America here. The 5 KW station that carries
it in my city get jammed out of existence (unless you're within about
a mile of their transmitter) by the 50 KW station that carries
Limbaugh and Hannity, even though they're not even close to each other
in frequency. Complaints have been filed with the FCC, but like
everything else in the Bush Administration, they're ruled by their
politics and haven't done anything to correct the problem.
Yeah, they've been ranting about that on Air America.
That's how you knew about it..
Do you have any idea just how dumb you make yourself look?
When did Air America tell you to say that?
Can't answer the question? Why am I not surprised?
Can't answer the question? Why am I not surprised?

-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-21 15:49:10 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is a lie. Not only a lie, but a damned lie. I have not listened
to Rush L. in months. That is the Obama routine, to call people that
beat them, liars.
Not just the Obama routine - the entire democratic party routine. They lie
and call people liars on an ongoing and daily basis. It their standard MO.

-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-21 15:47:21 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Sid9
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
Straight from Limbo's show today!
A true dittohead!
No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts, and apparently
that kind of thinking is catching on.
Wonder how he knew that was on Rush's show?
Must be a ditto head..
Oh, the irony..
Oh, the projection..
-Eddie Haskell
I listen whenever I can.
It's important to know
and understand the
opposition.
You're a ditto-head..
Post by Sid9
527's post came straight
from Limbo today.
Today!
Current events are like that, Sid, ya dunce. Something makes the news and
various people who have never even met start talking about it. It's not like
when democrats tell you something that has been orchestrated. Do yourself a
favor and try and shake that mindset.

-Eddie Haskell
Operation Perkôff
2008-08-21 10:08:36 UTC
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No, it is not from Rush. It is my original thoughts
Now we KNOW you are a KKKrooKKKed LYING repugnigoon.
Stutter Johnny McCain
2008-08-20 22:20:01 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Cindy McCain's Family Tree

By Amy Argetsinger and Roxanne Roberts
Wednesday, August 20, 2008; C01


Cindy McCain's Distanced Relatives


When Cindy McCain talks about growing up, she usually refers to herself as
an "only child" -- a phrase that ignores the existence of her half sisters.

"It's terribly painful," Kathleen Hensley Portalski said yesterday. "It is
as if she is the 'real' daughter. I am also a real daughter."

Portalski and McCain are both children of the late Jim Hensley, the Arizona
businessman who founded one of the largest beer distributorships in the
nation. Kathleen, 65, is the product of Hensley's first marriage in the
1930s to Mary Jeanne Parks. Hensley divorced Parks for Marguerite "Smitty"
Johnson, whom he met at a West Virginia hospital in World War II and married
in 1945. Cindy was born nine years later.

The half sisters had little contact growing up and have not spoken since
Hensley's funeral in 2000. In his will, he left just $10,000 to his older
daughter; Cindy inherited her father's multimillion-dollar fortune.

Portalski told our colleague Kimberly Kindy that she stood quietly by for
decades while her father lavished attention on his second family. But the
past few months -- with Cindy McCain's glowing childhood memories and
repeated references to being her father's only child -- finally became too
much. "I was his family, too," she said from her home in Phoenix. "I saw him
at Christmas and I spent my birthdays with him."

But there's more: Cindy McCain has another half sister. Before her marriage
to Hensley, Johnson had a daughter, Dixie Burd, by a previous relationship.
Burd, who is much older than Cindy, could not be reached for comment.

The McCain campaign has been tight-lipped about the expanded family tree:
"Mrs. McCain was raised as the only child of Jim and Marguerite Hensley, and
there was no familiar relationship with any other sibling," it said in a
statement.

The messy saga went public after McCain talked about her childhood in an NPR
interview. Portalski's son, Nicholas, contacted the network to clarify the
family history and his mother's feelings about being overlooked. "I'm
upset," she told NPR. "I'm angry. It makes me feel like a nonperson, kind
of."

Money, of course, has exacerbated the family tensions. The multimillionaire
Hensley only occasionally saw his older daughter -- and was emotionally
distant when he did, according to her son -- but gave Portalski and her
children money and college tuition. But when he died eight years ago,
Hensley bequeathed Cindy the majority share of his company. (Andrew McCain,
John's son from his first marriage, is now the chief financial officer.)
Portalski got no share of the business, and support to her family was
abruptly cut off.

"It doesn't make any kind of sense at all,'' Portalski said yesterday. "He
was generous over the years when I was growing up, so it doesn't compute
that he would do that; that he would leave all of us out. He paid for
college for two of my kids. He gave us yearly gifts that were generous,
allowed for a down payment on a home. I felt shock and disbelief. I just
wish I could ask him, 'Why?' "

Her son, Nicholas, asked for a copy of the will and said it had been amended
so many times that it was hard to tell what the original intent or language
must have been.

Now, she said, all she wants is for the McCains to apologize and acknowledge
her branch of the family tree. (Since you asked: Yes, they're Democrats.)
"He was my father, too. I don't know why even now he cannot be a part of my
life."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/?nav=pf

Stepford McCheerleader for doped up First Lady, yeah... hahaaha.......
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-21 16:13:19 UTC
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Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Cindy McCain's Family Tree
STFU. You're not worthy of uttering Cindy McCain's name.

In 1988, inspired by a vacation visit four years earlier to substandard
medical facilities on Truk Lagoon,[15][11] Cindy McCain founded the American
Voluntary Medical Team (AVMT).[2] It was a non-profit organization that
organized trips for doctors, nurses, and other medical personnel to provide
MASH-like emergency medical care to disaster-struck or war-torn third-world
areas such as Micronesia, Vietnam (before relations were normalized between
them and the U.S.[15]), Kuwait (arriving five days after the conclusion of
the Gulf War[15]), Iraq, Nicaragua, India, Bangladesh and El
Salvador.[10][29][30][31][32] She led 55 of these missions over the next
seven years,[14] with each being of at least two weeks' duration.[32] AVMT
also supplied treatment to poor sick children around the world.[33] In 1993,
Cindy McCain and the AVMT were honored with an award from Food for the
Hungry.[10]

While at Mother Teresa's orphanage in Dhaka, Bangladesh, in 1991 — as part
of AVMT's assistance team following the 1991 Bangladesh cyclone[30] — she
met two infant girls she decided needed to be brought to the United States
for medical treatment.[20] She decided to adopt one of the girls (her
husband readily agreeing), later named Bridget[10] (who became the McCains'
fourth child together), and helped coordinate the adoption of the other
little girl, named Mickey, for Wes Gullett, a family friend.[10]

-Eddie Haskell
genie
2008-08-20 22:28:40 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it?  And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-
brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be
more different than that of the Democratic contender
more at:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama...
I think it very interesting (and telling) that Oprah, Obamas celebrity
mentor, has decide that US inner city kids are not GRATEFUL enough for
her millions to be spent in the US.

“I became so frustrated with visiting inner-city schools that I just
stopped going. The sense that you need to learn just isn’t there,” she
says. “If you ask the kids what they want or need, they will say an
iPod or some sneakers. In South Africa, they don’t ask for money or
toys. They ask for uniforms so they can go to school.”

Don't forget that Obamas family are in real hopes & excitement that
he will keep them in mind, if he becomes elected.You can count on the
Kenya Obama hut to be remodeled to the manner befitting a relative of
a liberal US President, on taxpayer cash. I wonder if he will hire
Rezko to do a little fixing up there.
Operation Perkôff
2008-08-21 10:03:46 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it? And what
about that phrase, "You shall be your brother's keeper."
It's not his brother, it's his HALF-brother.

For all we know, YOU could have a "long lost half-brother" in Kenya.
Doesn't make YOU sound very American, now does it KKKlifford the Big Red?
Lamont Cranston
2008-08-21 14:50:06 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it?
Actually, it makes him sound very American and points out
that in spite of coming from a broken family, he had the
wherewithal to succeed in a very big way. This is just the
kind of man that we need in the White House.

Where is the 'whitey' tape, KKKwifi?
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-21 16:18:55 UTC
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This doesn't make Obama sound very American, now does it?
Actually, it makes him sound very American and points out that in spite of
coming from a broken family, he had the wherewithal to succeed in a very
big way. This is just the kind of man that we need in the White House.
Where is the 'whitey' tape, KKKwifi?
Cheezus H. K. fucking Rhist, Crankston, when in the name of god are you
going to get a clue? There was no rumor of a "whitey tape' and if you say
you heard that there was you are lying.

Here, just take a look:

"Lie: On May 30th, Rush Limbaugh said he had heard a rumor that a tape
exists of Michelle Obama using the word “Whitey” from the pulpit of Trinity
United Church of Christ."

http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/notape

-Eddie Haskell
James Of Tucson
2008-08-21 22:52:10 UTC
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Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
That's not a bad place to live. If he was living in a surf shack in
Maui what would you say?
Mombassa has a prettier beach.

What the fuck is your point here?
Eddie Haskell
2008-08-25 15:52:38 UTC
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Post by 527_blue_collar_worker
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George
Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma
on the outskirts of Nairobi.
That's not a bad place to live. If he was living in a surf shack in
Maui what would you say?
Mombassa has a prettier beach.
What the fuck is your point here?
That you're an idiot.

Thanks for the demonstration..

-Eddie Haskell
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